I love watching these testing videos. You give so much information. What I like about these trials is that your honesty is based on your experiences from camping yourself. You set high standards and you hold companies to their word about their products. I value companies that respect a customer's observation of their product and are willing to correct the problems that are noticed. It has nothing to do with cost of redesigning a product. It has to do with customer safety and the reputation of a company to stand behind their claims that they are producing a safe item for the customer to use. It also means that whether you are an experienced camper or a novice, if you purchase an item based on the company's promise to be kept safe then it should stand up to that promise. That's what makes a great outdoors company: customer safety, quality products and open communication between customers and company. And you prove that every time. Thank you.
Thanks Luke for looking out for us ! I completely agree with the fact that a leaking tent is completely useless and dangerous. I almost purchased this tent after watching your “first look “ video. I’m sure glad that I waited for your test video! Thanks again brother!
I've been looking for a good double skin tipi tent, and was really excited to see the Ichi One. If DOD fix these issues, I would still buy one in a heartbeat. But only IF they do what's needed to realise the initial promise this tent showed.
I love this video for the one and only reason that I can hear a thunderstorm again. We don't get them in michigan during the winter. So glad there is someone with honesty and integrity out there who helps the everyday person know what is the best product to use. Thank you Luke!
These are the best Videos sometimes..definitely these companies fear your reviews. But the great ones always pass the test... that's why we all owe you a debt of Gratitude. 👊🖖
The sad part about all this is that the company doesn't test their own equipment and has to rely on the public ... meaning this company wants your money before anything else ... I bet all this would stop if they got sued a few times ...
You can’t sue them over a bad product that leaks. No judge is gonna take a case like that seriously. Not to mention good luck finding a lawyer to represent that.
Moral of the story then?: Never buy anything unless it is proven to have been tested (does not leak, collapse in strong winds etc..) by the company that makes the product they sell. Reputable manufacturers always test their product designs once made. Kampa, Vango, Coleman, Quechua and many others do this. By the way, suing will not work. Not buying their products is enough.
@Anonymous Won You are in control of what you put in your mouth you can't blame the companies if people are too stupid to control their impulses to eat crap.
Unfit for purpose is definitely a case for something being unfit for stated purpose. Does that make it unsafe? I mean.. 🤷🏻♂️ it definitely gets you wet and cold & that can lead to health outcomes. How you might phrase that though to get it pulled. A company that will ultimately rely on the ignorance of its buyers is a bad company.
If a tent doesn’t come seam sealed I don’t expect it to be waterproof and won’t complain, if it leaks due to poor design such as with this tent (the entry flap) then that’s a different matter. When a company refuse to acknowledge their own poor design they no longer exist as an option for ANY of their products. If they can’t be trusted then neither can their wares.
I'm the same way. If it isn't seam sealed I don't consider it waterproof. That is the first thing I check when setting up a new tent. Are all the seams sealed? If not, I either return it or seal them myself.
Thanks Sir! I was considering buying one of these tents before I watch both of your water proof test. Seam tape on a zipper and storm flap are critical on all tents.😮
Not sure why, but this is a shortened vid of one he had up as of yesterday. Maybe Luke just thought the last vid was a little too long? Luke, can you weigh in?
Ahh I thought the company had replied lol - I just finished the other video. I’m 5 mins in and I thought he was doing a brief summation before the reply 🤣
You’re honest unbiased opinion is valued more than you know! Like you always say… Strength and honour some of these companies could take that advice. Very best 🍻
It won't be hard for DoD to trace this, just water test the tent in a rain room with lighting and a camera inside the tent. A 360 camera or a couple of wide angles will do it and they can SEE where the water is coming in.
It's too bad it leaks it looks like a very nice tent. If they make a larger flap and seam seal it and that works I'd be interested in one. Thanks for all you do love the videos.
Youre testing and commentary is balanced and courteous. Ive had issues with product some from experienced manufacturers. They get very defensive, and at one point i was threatened with legal action (re a bull bar which didnt fit properly), fortunately they recognised an error and replaced it. I hope they listen to you soas they can improve their product
I think highly of you. You deal with people who are to your best knowledge, honest. You are truthful in your assessment of the quality of the goods you do proper and real-world use tests with. Kudos. Glad you also give information on what the company's responses are if known.
Thank you Luke, for sharing this review on the tent GEEZERS, that tent leaks a lot, could you imagine if it would have been raining harder or worse? And someone sleeping in it 😬yikes 😳. Awesome as always KEEP ADVENTURING GOD BLESS YOU 🤗HUGS🤗
I don't know if this has been said before, but a 360 camera mounted to a small tripod and hooked up to a small battery pack that would last ~12 hours would give you a pretty good idea what/where the leaks occur when you do these tent reviews.
Thanks for the fair and honest review. I wonder why you urge them to take the product off of the market though when so many tent makers like Ozark Trail and Coleman put out "waterproof" tents that everyone knows leak like crazy.
I personally would not have thrown in my sleepingbag and other stuff inside this tent. Bc i would like to keep it dry, you had strong suspicions it would leak. Still love the design, am very disappointed with the product. Thanks for testing and sharing, really appreciate it❤️
I have a couple coleman tents that have NEVER leaked. I know when I set them up and go to sleep at night, if it were to rain, I'd be safe and dry. These are by no means "backpacking" tents but they are trustworthy non the less
I already bought one of these tents last summer. Used it only once in dry weather. Reason I bought it was because I can stand up in the middle inside the tent, and it is easy for me to put up by myself quickly with just the one pole. I own many other tents I also like and know don't leak but I am going to do some experimenting with it in my yard and maybe try seam sealing or something to hopefully make it more rain worthy. Hope it works.
i can understand the disappointment of this tent however (for the first time ) I was expecting more in an episode than a reedit and shortening of an episode from three days ago . Your channel is excellent for information on new products that many of us never knew existed . I am very pleased that you have established a reputation that many manufacturers recognize and listen to for better products . Please keep up the excellent work and feedback . thankyou
Those seem like simple solutions to the leaking problem. A bit of seam tape where it’s lacking and extending out zipper fly cover material. Makes me wonder if they’re even paying attention to your comments in the video. Thanks for doing these as it’s good to see companies pays some type of attention. We can look for the changes to happen, and well if they don’t we buy from other companies. Cheers 🎉
Thanks, you saved a lot of viewers a lot of hassle and money. Kind of disappointed at DoD's response. They should've owned it and moved forward. I'd have more respect for that.
Thank you for all the testing you do👍 Of course because I have watched posts i have SPENT and SPENT 🎉🎉🎉 All told, the equipment you have given a positive recommendations have never failed me!!
One thing I noticed is that the tie out that attaches next to the door flap is pulled to the right at an angle. Possibly opening that flap a little. Maybe try coming strain out from where it attaches and see if it still does it.
One of the best rain videos I've seen of yours yet. Question, though - would it be possible to get a heavy rain/rain focused video where it starts with a downpour and ends on one? This obviously is dependent on the weather, but a full rain video with you chatting over top would be 🤌
Luke thank you for doing these videos , very helpful. Is this just a condensed version of your second test of this tent? When watching this video I felt deja vu lol.
Luke I so enjoy your reviews and I want buy any gear without first watching you review it. So I know you don’t enjoy hammock camping but I have to hammock camp because of hip and back issues. I discovered what looks like a pretty great hammock system by superior gear. They have a built In under quilt into the hammock, and an easy (no knot skills required) Tarp with doors. I wish this hammock had existed when I first bought my Dutch Gear Chameleon hammock ( which is a great hammock) but having to buy a separate under quilt and Tarp made this an expensive purchase in total. I haven’t bought a tarp yet because I really struggle with all the knots that need to be used when putting up a tarp. What I liked about this Superior Gear tarp is that you don’t need to have Boy Scout knot badge to put it up. Would you be interested in testing these products? Also thank you and your families military service. I am a military brat myself and I know the great sacrifices you all make in severing, but you demonstrate your honorable service in every video you make. God bless, Beth
How much snow did you guys end up getting the day after the t-storms? We ended up with 5" down here in Haywood County at 3000'. Forecast was for a trace to 1". Haha.
It just kills me I bought one of these lemons AND it's dedicated ground sheet only to see these issues pop up. $280 was a good deal for both, I grabbed it and this happens. I will be waiting to see if DOD pulls it, and if they will give any satisfaction to customers like me...especially like me since I haven't even had a chance to pitch it. I'm hoping for an exchange for the fixed model, I won't get a refund as it was an eBay purchase.
Same situation for me. I bought the tent and ground cover from Amazon actually. Used it for a 3 night trip in the PA mountains with no rain luckily. I did buy a tarp also, not from DOD that I guess I'll have to use. No returns possible.
Thank you for keeping it real and honest Luke. Altough I never would use such a tent myself, this was quite interesting indeed. I got to be able to enter and exit the tent during a rainy day without soaking everything inside. Great choice of music too!! 👌
This is why I was looking at more of the bell style tents. Still just the one pole in the middle. But also one for the door and it's straight up and down. Easier in and out without soaking the floor. And less chance to leak at the door. I think.
That’s a nice looking teepee style tent, but too bad that it leaks like that. Especially since it’s well over $300 and a $99 Coleman 4 person Sundome tent proves to be leakproof time and time again.
Thank you Luke for your efforts. It helps us, the buying public, to know what is good and what to avoid. That tent looks like it should be bomb proof. Your tests have shown us otherwise.
I believe the first problem is it's made in China. You mentioned the company thought it may be a second. If they do "take these off the market", will they sell them as seconds? I know you probably have no way of knowing this, but it is sad that quality doesn't go into workmanship as it once did. Thank you for your honest take in testing products. I believe word of mouth is worth far more than glitzy advertising. Stay safe and GOD bless
Luke thanks for the review, could you review the BESSPORT Praslin. I left mine out in heavy rain all week, NO leaks. I would like to know your opinion.
Any chance water is seeping in through the seams where the top 2 sections are sewn together? Seems like a likely spot, especially if the seam isn’t taped.
I know the storm you're talking about. It hit us pretty hard on the NW side of Tennessee and my son who lives pretty close to you in Kingsport TN said it was a bit windy, but no where's near what we got.
Since I'm seeing this twice... I'll say it again as well: Interesting... I had a similar scenario occur when seeking dealership status regarding Silky (Japanese saws, tools etc) for here at Alaska Raft Connection (intent upon adding Silky Saws to our rental and retail gear selections for remote destination Alaska rafting trips). I received all the factory-direct wholesale, MAP, suggested MSRP, etc. and shipping pricing. Of significance... I also looked into Japan-based bulk dealerships that would sell Silky at quiet a bit lower pricing as factory (ie. knocking a significant amount off single to small orders as well as quantity orders, much less for shipping, and faster delivery). I inquired about my findings with Silky... They essentially said the very same things DOD has responded to you concerning your tent issue. The strange parallels is the talk of knock-offs or not legit sales. Could be the case of faux-branded stuff, but I see a very similar response trend. Might simply be case of different outsourcing or batches in Asia. As far as Silky goes... Did I go thru with dealership status? NO. Did I ever buy in quantity from any sources? also NO. I did obtain highest quality supply and models wanted/requested? Yes... but it was unfortunately not fair-minded by going with a factory direct relationship. Did I receive any faux-branded or factory seconds Silky saws and blades? No... all were top-notch genuine. Hope this lends some useful/helpful perspectives.
You should set it up in your back yard and have someone lightly spray it with water while youre inside to see where the water is coming from, id be interested in seeing exactly how its failing. good catch though, couldn't imagine waking up while camping soaking wet and cold.
Like I said in the last test video, I bet they watch the review and do something. Let's see it they reach out to you again, then we'll know the sincerity in finding a fix...maybe. The Japanese can be a bit stubborn when it comes to failure. Is this product made in Japan or farmed out to China like a lot of products..that could be the real failure. Nice work Luke👍👍
If you pay attention in the video, where it shows the lot number, underneath it says product of China. I said to myself that I would have never purchased this tent as that info is probably found on the outside of the packaging at purchase as well. I DO NOT SUPPORT CHINA!
I really enjoyed this review the company needs to test there tents, I wish the UK got the thunderstorms America gets, thank you for another interesting episode.
Let’s let them respond to this first before busting out their windows. Pride and saving face would be easy …put a disclaimer with these as fair weather tents only till they redesign them to the waterproof rating needed. Being a stand up company and fixing this issue would get them lots of positive views. By making it right, they save face. If they respond poorly or not at all. Then..windows are fair game. Or heck with it and bust em out anyway. Lol
MSR had problems with leaking tents until the problem became well known & people either returned them to get their money back or the public stopped buying MSR products en masse. Then they started seam taping their tents like they'd done for years.
Am I time warping? Is this video a re-post? I'm certain I watched this video a day or two ago. Whoa.... too much coffee? Another great video. Be safe. May be time for a live feed cam from inside the tent
im a bit confused cos you already put this video up a few days ago so i watched it again because i thought you must of heard back from dod again after the second test and put this video up again so that people that didnt watch it new the story before you gave the response from dod ,but i guess you havent heard back yet? the only difference in the this video and the last that i can see is you edited it a bit. did you put the wrong video up by mistake? have you heard back from dod re the test you did on the tent that they sent you? ps hope you have a great week and looking forward to your next video. 🙂
One very important thing to know about Japanese companies, and Japanese culture in general, is the concept of saving face. We in the European/American world don't have this concept. A Japanese person will NEVER publicly admit they made a mistake. I've worked with Japanese citizens for a Japanese company, and they would rather quit their job than admit they were wrong about something. To admit they made a mistake means losing face, and they will not do that. That's why DOD said you received a counterfeit or defective product even though they know you didn't and you showed the two tents were from the same lot. They're not going to respond truthfully, they will deflect and blame everyone but themselves, because to do otherwise is to lose face. If they do respond, expect them to gaslight you and blame you for not setting up the tent correctly, or some other mistake you made. Don't expect DOD to admit they made a poorly designed tent. This isn't about them being dishonest or a scam company, it's a cultural thing and you'd see this kind of behavior no matter what product a Japanese company is selling. EDIT: To clarify, I'm not supporting DOD. When I worked for that Japanese company, I was always frustrated when I found a problem. I wanted to fix it, but the Japanese citizens who would need to put in the work to fix the issue refused to acknowledge the issue even existed in the first place, forcing me to find other ways to address the problems when it would be far easier for them to just do their job and fix the issue. After complaining to my US manager, I was told to just accept that they aren't going to lose face and admit the problem existed, and instead find another way to solve the problem.
I love watching these testing videos. You give so much information.
What I like about these trials is that your honesty is based on your experiences from camping yourself. You set high standards and you hold companies to their word about their products.
I value companies that respect a customer's observation of their product and are willing to correct the problems that are noticed.
It has nothing to do with cost of redesigning a product. It has to do with customer safety and the reputation of a company to stand behind their claims that they are producing a safe item for the customer to use.
It also means that whether you are an experienced camper or a novice, if you purchase an item based on the company's promise to be kept safe then it should stand up to that promise. That's what makes a great outdoors company: customer safety, quality products and open communication between customers and company.
And you prove that every time.
Thank you.
Thanks Luke for looking out for us ! I completely agree with the fact that a leaking tent is completely useless and dangerous. I almost purchased this tent after watching your “first look “ video. I’m sure glad that I waited for your test video! Thanks again brother!
I've been looking for a good double skin tipi tent, and was really excited to see the Ichi One. If DOD fix these issues, I would still buy one in a heartbeat. But only IF they do what's needed to realise the initial promise this tent showed.
I love this video for the one and only reason that I can hear a thunderstorm again. We don't get them in michigan during the winter. So glad there is someone with honesty and integrity out there who helps the everyday person know what is the best product to use. Thank you Luke!
These are the best Videos sometimes..definitely these companies fear your reviews. But the great ones always pass the test... that's why we all owe you a debt of Gratitude. 👊🖖
The sad part about all this is that the company doesn't test their own equipment and has to rely on the public ... meaning this company wants your money before anything else ... I bet all this would stop if they got sued a few times ...
You can’t sue them over a bad product that leaks. No judge is gonna take a case like that seriously. Not to mention good luck finding a lawyer to represent that.
Moral of the story then?: Never buy anything unless it is proven to have been tested (does not leak, collapse in strong winds etc..) by the company that makes the product they sell.
Reputable manufacturers always test their product designs once made. Kampa, Vango, Coleman, Quechua and many others do this. By the way, suing will not work. Not buying their products is enough.
dont all companies want your money first?
@Anonymous Won You are in control of what you put in your mouth you can't blame the companies if people are too stupid to control their impulses to eat crap.
Unfit for purpose is definitely a case for something being unfit for stated purpose. Does that make it unsafe? I mean.. 🤷🏻♂️ it definitely gets you wet and cold & that can lead to health outcomes. How you might phrase that though to get it pulled. A company that will ultimately rely on the ignorance of its buyers is a bad company.
If a tent doesn’t come seam sealed I don’t expect it to be waterproof and won’t complain, if it leaks due to poor design such as with this tent (the entry flap) then that’s a different matter. When a company refuse to acknowledge their own poor design they no longer exist as an option for ANY of their products. If they can’t be trusted then neither can their wares.
I'm the same way. If it isn't seam sealed I don't consider it waterproof. That is the first thing I check when setting up a new tent. Are all the seams sealed? If not, I either return it or seal them myself.
The company should know.
If they say waterproof, that's what it should be.
They either don't know or lie.
Thanks Sir! I was considering buying one of these tents before I watch both of your water proof test. Seam tape on a zipper and storm flap are critical on all tents.😮
Not sure why, but this is a shortened vid of one he had up as of yesterday. Maybe Luke just thought the last vid was a little too long? Luke, can you weigh in?
I thought I saw this before. 🤪
Luke !! Can you explain why we've seen this before?
Was going to make the same comment....
Doubling down.
Ahh I thought the company had replied lol - I just finished the other video. I’m 5 mins in and I thought he was doing a brief summation before the reply 🤣
Love the work you do and the honesty. Keep it up. Hope you and the family are doing well!
This one confused me because this is the same video you released 3 days ago.
Thank you 👍🏻
You’re honest unbiased opinion is valued more than you know! Like you always say… Strength and honour some of these companies could take that advice. Very best 🍻
It won't be hard for DoD to trace this, just water test the tent in a rain room with lighting and a camera inside the tent. A 360 camera or a couple of wide angles will do it and they can SEE where the water is coming in.
Yep, a bright light from the interior will show light escaping through holes on the exterior material.
Thing is why didn’t they do this already? 🤔 I just assumed companies would test tents to be solid.
It's too bad it leaks it looks like a very nice tent. If they make a larger flap and seam seal it and that works I'd be interested in one.
Thanks for all you do love the videos.
Youre testing and commentary is balanced and courteous. Ive had issues with product some from experienced manufacturers. They get very defensive, and at one point i was threatened with legal action (re a bull bar which didnt fit properly), fortunately they recognised an error and replaced it. I hope they listen to you soas they can improve their product
Thanks for your review.
I was about to buy this tent from Amazon, now I'm never buying any DOD products ever.
I really love the sound of rain while camping. Its sound as it hits the tent and on the leaves. Not to mention the thunder roar.
I think highly of you. You deal with people who are to your best knowledge, honest. You are truthful in your assessment of the quality of the goods you do proper and real-world use tests with. Kudos. Glad you also give information on what the company's responses are if known.
Thank you Luke, for sharing this review on the tent GEEZERS, that tent leaks a lot, could you imagine if it would have been raining harder or worse? And someone sleeping in it 😬yikes 😳.
Awesome as always
KEEP ADVENTURING
GOD BLESS YOU
🤗HUGS🤗
I thought you were done making a video on this tent. Lol
This one really needed being inside the tent find the exact leak point. That way blaming you for some king of error could be easily defeated.
I don't know if this has been said before, but a 360 camera mounted to a small tripod and hooked up to a small battery pack that would last ~12 hours would give you a pretty good idea what/where the leaks occur when you do these tent reviews.
Thanks for the fair and honest review. I wonder why you urge them to take the product off of the market though when so many tent makers like Ozark Trail and Coleman put out "waterproof" tents that everyone knows leak like crazy.
I personally would not have thrown in my sleepingbag and other stuff inside this tent. Bc i would like to keep it dry, you had strong suspicions it would leak. Still love the design, am very disappointed with the product. Thanks for testing and sharing, really appreciate it❤️
I have a couple coleman tents that have NEVER leaked. I know when I set them up and go to sleep at night, if it were to rain, I'd be safe and dry. These are by no means "backpacking" tents but they are trustworthy non the less
That was really cool, camera catching the wall of rain moving in.
Yes I really loved that to
I already bought one of these tents last summer. Used it only once in dry weather. Reason I bought it was because I can stand up in the middle inside the tent, and it is easy for me to put up by myself quickly with just the one pole. I own many other tents I also like and know don't leak but I am going to do some experimenting with it in my yard and maybe try seam sealing or something to hopefully make it more rain worthy. Hope it works.
I think the tent is not waterproof, and I agree with you Luke they should take off the market, not sell anymore
All ways a good time ...!! Thank you 😎
i can understand the disappointment of this tent however (for the first time ) I was expecting more in an episode than a reedit and shortening of an episode from three days ago . Your channel is excellent for information on new products that many of us never knew existed . I am very pleased that you have established a reputation that many manufacturers recognize and listen to for better products . Please keep up the excellent work and feedback . thankyou
Is it possible to film a live stream from inside the tent to see where it's leaking without being inside the tent
this is a re-upload? i thought we saw this video?
Those seem like simple solutions to the leaking problem. A bit of seam tape where it’s lacking and extending out zipper fly cover material. Makes me wonder if they’re even paying attention to your comments in the video. Thanks for doing these as it’s good to see companies pays some type of attention. We can look for the changes to happen, and well if they don’t we buy from other companies. Cheers 🎉
Is this a repost? I have seen this before
Thanks, you saved a lot of viewers a lot of hassle and money. Kind of disappointed at DoD's response. They should've owned it and moved forward. I'd have more respect for that.
Feels like I just watched most of this.
Thank you for all the testing you do👍 Of course because I have watched posts i have SPENT and SPENT 🎉🎉🎉 All told, the equipment you have given a positive recommendations have never failed me!!
I'm feeling a little deja vu with this video?
One thing I noticed is that the tie out that attaches next to the door flap is pulled to the right at an angle. Possibly opening that flap a little. Maybe try coming strain out from where it attaches and see if it still does it.
Hope DOD respond quicker than Luke regarding posting this review twice 🤷♂️
Thanks for your investingations in this ...
How many times are we going to see this tent reviewed?
Is this the third video on the same tent? Ok we get it. It leaks. Lets press on until they respond.
Thank you brother...I was about to purchase this tent not any more.....
One of the best rain videos I've seen of yours yet.
Question, though - would it be possible to get a heavy rain/rain focused video where it starts with a downpour and ends on one? This obviously is dependent on the weather, but a full rain video with you chatting over top would be 🤌
Keep keeping them honest dude👍
All I can do is laugh all I can think is this is the best way to test out a tent that claims they are waterproof. That storm was brilliant!
Man, that is such a bummer!! I love this style of tent. I hope they get it right!!
Thx Lucas!
Luke thank you for doing these videos , very helpful. Is this just a condensed version of your second test of this tent? When watching this video I felt deja vu lol.
Luke I so enjoy your reviews and I want buy any gear without first watching you review it. So I know you don’t enjoy hammock camping but I have to hammock camp because of hip and back issues. I discovered what looks like a pretty great hammock system by superior gear. They have a built In under quilt into the hammock, and an easy (no knot skills required) Tarp with doors. I wish this hammock had existed when I first bought my Dutch Gear Chameleon hammock ( which is a great hammock) but having to buy a separate under quilt and Tarp made this an expensive purchase in total. I haven’t bought a tarp yet because I really struggle with all the knots that need to be used when putting up a tarp. What I liked about this Superior Gear tarp is that you don’t need to have Boy Scout knot badge to put it up. Would you be interested in testing these products?
Also thank you and your families military service. I am a military brat myself and I know the great sacrifices you all make in severing, but you demonstrate your honorable service in every video you make.
God bless,
Beth
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY Luke thank you for sharing your equipment testing and adventures
Awesome video with great production. The effort shows. Keep up the good work. 👍
How much snow did you guys end up getting the day after the t-storms? We ended up with 5" down here in Haywood County at 3000'. Forecast was for a trace to 1". Haha.
It just kills me I bought one of these lemons AND it's dedicated ground sheet only to see these issues pop up. $280 was a good deal for both, I grabbed it and this happens. I will be waiting to see if DOD pulls it, and if they will give any satisfaction to customers like me...especially like me since I haven't even had a chance to pitch it. I'm hoping for an exchange for the fixed model, I won't get a refund as it was an eBay purchase.
Same situation for me. I bought the tent and ground cover from Amazon actually. Used it for a 3 night trip in the PA mountains with no rain luckily. I did buy a tarp also, not from DOD that I guess I'll have to use. No returns possible.
Thank you for keeping it real and honest Luke. Altough I never would use such a tent myself, this was quite interesting indeed. I got to be able to enter and exit the tent during a rainy day without soaking everything inside. Great choice of music too!! 👌
Great video Thank you!
This is why I was looking at more of the bell style tents. Still just the one pole in the middle. But also one for the door and it's straight up and down. Easier in and out without soaking the floor. And less chance to leak at the door. I think.
Wait.... how is this video 4 hours old? I watched this days ago...
Yes, I was wondering the same thing. Did Luke double post the same content?
What weather app are you using?
That’s a nice looking teepee style tent, but too bad that it leaks like that. Especially since it’s well over $300 and a $99 Coleman 4 person Sundome tent proves to be leakproof time and time again.
Am I going crazy or is this the video you put up a few days ago but shorter?
I am
Also totally confused. I watched this vid last night!
Same!!!!
Same here!
@@mzinns Me too
Thank you Luke for your efforts. It helps us, the buying public, to know what is good and what to avoid. That tent looks like it should be bomb proof. Your tests have shown us otherwise.
Is this a reupload?
It's the test of the replacement tent the company sent out.
@@NotTheAverageGamerz he already did a test on the replacement last video!
It looks like a reupload of about half of the last video, he says the exact same lines.
Perfect way to start off a Sunday 😜
Luke the disaster reporter. Love it
Great video it will be interesting to see what the say about the test can wait for update
I believe the first problem is it's made in China. You mentioned the company thought it may be a second. If they do "take these off the market", will they sell them as seconds? I know you probably have no way of knowing this, but it is sad that quality doesn't go into workmanship as it once did. Thank you for your honest take in testing products. I believe word of mouth is worth far more than glitzy advertising. Stay safe and GOD bless
Someone at the post office must’ve intercepted the package and swapped it out with a counterfeit tent! Lol
Fantastic follow up! Oh and just a heads up for accuracy,, ichi is Japanese for the number one and is pronounced ee-chee
Luke thanks for the review, could you review the BESSPORT Praslin. I left mine out in heavy rain all week, NO leaks. I would like to know your opinion.
Any chance water is seeping in through the seams where the top 2 sections are sewn together? Seems like a likely spot, especially if the seam isn’t taped.
Luke you did this review on you last video. Why again. It’s just shorter
I know the storm you're talking about. It hit us pretty hard on the NW side of Tennessee and my son who lives pretty close to you in Kingsport TN said it was a bit windy, but no where's near what we got.
Thanks Luke!!!
@18:19 What Jacket is this? Thanks
I'm confused. Isn't this pretty much the same as your last video,
Since I'm seeing this twice... I'll say it again as well:
Interesting... I had a similar scenario occur when seeking dealership status regarding Silky (Japanese saws, tools etc) for here at Alaska Raft Connection (intent upon adding Silky Saws to our rental and retail gear selections for remote destination Alaska rafting trips). I received all the factory-direct wholesale, MAP, suggested MSRP, etc. and shipping pricing. Of significance... I also looked into Japan-based bulk dealerships that would sell Silky at quiet a bit lower pricing as factory (ie. knocking a significant amount off single to small orders as well as quantity orders, much less for shipping, and faster delivery). I inquired about my findings with Silky... They essentially said the very same things DOD has responded to you concerning your tent issue. The strange parallels is the talk of knock-offs or not legit sales. Could be the case of faux-branded stuff, but I see a very similar response trend. Might simply be case of different outsourcing or batches in Asia. As far as Silky goes... Did I go thru with dealership status? NO. Did I ever buy in quantity from any sources? also NO. I did obtain highest quality supply and models wanted/requested? Yes... but it was unfortunately not fair-minded by going with a factory direct relationship. Did I receive any faux-branded or factory seconds Silky saws and blades? No... all were top-notch genuine. Hope this lends some useful/helpful perspectives.
Why did you do 2 videos about the factory direct tent??
What's up with double posting this?
You should set it up in your back yard and have someone lightly spray it with water while youre inside to see where the water is coming from, id be interested in seeing exactly how its failing. good catch though, couldn't imagine waking up while camping soaking wet and cold.
Like I said in the last test video, I bet they watch the review and do something. Let's see it they reach out to you again, then we'll know the sincerity in finding a fix...maybe. The Japanese can be a bit stubborn when it comes to failure. Is this product made in Japan or farmed out to China like a lot of products..that could be the real failure. Nice work Luke👍👍
If you pay attention in the video, where it shows the lot number, underneath it says product of China. I said to myself that I would have never purchased this tent as that info is probably found on the outside of the packaging at purchase as well. I DO NOT SUPPORT CHINA!
@@wpeale71341 I missed that, thanks. And good move, me either...😉
@@wpeale71341 same. I thought it was made in Japan.
Let's see if they try to make another excuse. I'm really unimpressed with their first round response.
I watch your videos 3 days ago about this tent on Lone Wolf Mountain ⛰ and had some defects front zipper flat & window!
Wasn't this already uploaded?
I really enjoyed this review the company needs to test there tents, I wish the UK got the thunderstorms America gets, thank you for another interesting episode.
I agree about the thunderstorms and I also wish we got the snow that parts of the US and Canada get too 😊
@@MrDavomeister Yes me to nothing like a good thunderstorm and a crisp snow fall, the uk weather can be very bland 😂
@@littlebooks4760 obviously you've not been to the West of Scotland
Let’s let them respond to this first before busting out their windows. Pride and saving face would be easy …put a disclaimer with these as fair weather tents only till they redesign them to the waterproof rating needed. Being a stand up company and fixing this issue would get them lots of positive views. By making it right, they save face. If they respond poorly or not at all. Then..windows are fair game. Or heck with it and bust em out anyway. Lol
MSR had problems with leaking tents until the problem became well known & people either returned them to get their money back or the public stopped buying MSR products en masse. Then they started seam taping their tents like they'd done for years.
Am I time warping? Is this video a re-post? I'm certain I watched this video a day or two ago.
Whoa.... too much coffee? Another great video. Be safe. May be time for a live feed cam from inside the tent
Didn't we see this before?
They will say user error! They need to admit to their flaws
Is this a repost?
Good job as always, stay dry my friend
im a bit confused cos you already put this video up a few days ago so i watched it again because i thought you must of heard back from dod again after the second test and put this video up again so that people that didnt watch it new the story before you gave the response from dod ,but i guess you havent heard back yet? the only difference in the this video and the last that i can see is you edited it a bit. did you put the wrong video up by mistake? have you heard back from dod re the test you did on the tent that they sent you? ps hope you have a great week and looking forward to your next video. 🙂
One very important thing to know about Japanese companies, and Japanese culture in general, is the concept of saving face. We in the European/American world don't have this concept. A Japanese person will NEVER publicly admit they made a mistake. I've worked with Japanese citizens for a Japanese company, and they would rather quit their job than admit they were wrong about something. To admit they made a mistake means losing face, and they will not do that. That's why DOD said you received a counterfeit or defective product even though they know you didn't and you showed the two tents were from the same lot. They're not going to respond truthfully, they will deflect and blame everyone but themselves, because to do otherwise is to lose face. If they do respond, expect them to gaslight you and blame you for not setting up the tent correctly, or some other mistake you made. Don't expect DOD to admit they made a poorly designed tent. This isn't about them being dishonest or a scam company, it's a cultural thing and you'd see this kind of behavior no matter what product a Japanese company is selling.
EDIT: To clarify, I'm not supporting DOD. When I worked for that Japanese company, I was always frustrated when I found a problem. I wanted to fix it, but the Japanese citizens who would need to put in the work to fix the issue refused to acknowledge the issue even existed in the first place, forcing me to find other ways to address the problems when it would be far easier for them to just do their job and fix the issue. After complaining to my US manager, I was told to just accept that they aren't going to lose face and admit the problem existed, and instead find another way to solve the problem.
However. For the most part japanese products will be of superior quality. Why do u think Luke bought a Toyota...
@@joseph401 Nothing superior about these DOD tents, as shown on the tags, they are made in China at the same factory as everything else.
Saving face may be fine in Japan, but if you’re going to sell products to a non Japanese country, then saving face doesn’t work. ✌️🇯🇵🇺🇸✌️
No excuse not to call out a defective product (or culture) for its failings.
@@shazmodeus2795 hence the wording...for the most part.
Luke, this seems like the episode you put up a couple days ago?
I was going to say the same thing. What the hell?
Didn't you just do this a couple days ago
I just saw the video a few days ago, why is it reposted?
I saw this video already a few days back - I though this was an update - what gives???
re-upload?
It's the test of the replacement tent the company sent out.
This ending was interesting to say the least. What do you mean by that moto? Are you making some changes to your channel?