As someone who grew up poor with two parents who both experienced the Great Depression, I have always had a kind of minimalistic, what is currently termed Prepping mindset towards all of my outdoors gear. The only advantage that I can see for any of these thick, high R-value air mattresses is the ability to reduce their storage volume for transportation purposes. For approximately the same amount of money, $145.00, one can purchase a *Wiggy's Luxurious Ground Pad* measuring 28" wide by 72" long by approximately 2.5" thick. The Wiggy's Luxurious Ground Pad utilizes a very thick and dense, Lamilite-style synthetic insulation fill that is encased in Wiggy's standard, 2" thick, Ground Pad envelope. With a weight of 5 pounds the 72" long pad is certainly competitive with the air mattress pads that Luke has reviewed recently. If one chooses to get the longer version measuring 84" long, then the weight rises to 5.5 pounds. Both pads have an approximate temperature rating of -40° Fahrenheit if utilized with an appropriate Artic/Antarctic/high-altitude sleeping bag. The Wiggy's pad won't compress down anywhere close to what any of these thick air mattresses are capable of. But, for car camping, that shouldn't need to be a priority.
Self inflating pads work best when stored inflated or at least expanded without pressure. I store a Therm-a-Rest MondoKing that way and it self inflates very well regardless of temperature. I also keep their self inflating Trail Pro packed in my motorcycle camping kit and it does not inflate as well because of the constant compression when stored . Similarly to this comparison, the Trail Pro and the Neo Air have the same footprint, but obviously the Neo Air compacts down much smaller because of the insulation and R-value differences. If you want your self-inflating pads to self inflate don’t store them rolled up. Great review as always! For anyone wanting one of these larger pads, I’d make my decision based on the R-value and intended use. (Also a word to the wise,do not go off and leave your pads inflated on hot days they can expand and separate the glue seams and even explode.)
One thing you have to do with foam (self inflating) mattresses that you don't with regular inflatables is you have to store them inflated. They perform best when stored fully inflated, so the foam isn't compressed for extended periods of time, which will slow its recovery/inflation when you're ready to use it. I actually like the form factor of the Dreamstar a little more than the Naturehike, but as a larger individual (6' 2", 230 lbs), I tend to lean toward thicker, larger mattresses. However, in this case, I'm thinking the Onetigris pad looks like it will fit better on a hiking cot (the low ones), which has become a constant in my winter/car camping loadout. I tend to like foam/self-inflating pads more in winter because they don't lose loft in the night like inflatable pads do.
The more compact size for storage and transport makes the OT look interesting to me. And being a bit smaller inflated could be a benefit in some situations. Some of my tents, and the home-built "bunk" in the back of my pickup shell put space (including head room) at a premium even for one person. 😊 It's NICE to have options! 😊
I have the full size Lost Horizon mattress from Amazon and it’s very similar . Only $140 on sale and it’s extremely comfy . Glad company’s are working on this hybrid tech . My back and sides are grateful 😂
If I were to choose, I would probably go for the OneTigris pad. This is because if I do car camp, I do it in a medium size SUV where space can be an issue. A 27.5in pad is about the limit of how wide I can go without taking up too much space. Also the smaller pack size helps. I am wondering if the self inflation time is difference is down to product test without thinking it through, rather than any attempt to pull the wool over our eyes. One Tigris is based in Shenzhen, southern China, where temperatures get up to 40+ Deg C in the summer. If they tested the pad in those temps, all the plastics in the mattress will be more pliable, and self inflation of a warm product with warm air could be much faster.
As a 200 pound side sleeper my instinct is to go for thickness over packability or even weight....I cannot STAND for a hip or shoulder (or both) to dig into the ground. Honestly I'd go for the Skyemac, their fire pit/stove is still my go to...that company isn't messing around, their stuff is good.
For car/truck camping id say as thick as possible!! I thankfully have full build with an 8" foam mattress! Testing the diesel heater tonight in Northern wisconsin, forecasted low is -10F
Hey Luke, you think you could check out a Tent from OneTigris. I don't think you've covered this tent yet, its called OneTigris Platoon Camping Tent. From what I've seen it looks very versatile and can be used with or without a bug inner which you need to purchase the inner separately. Also the awning can be setup in multiple ways which is very intriguing.
I agree it totally depends on the situation you're going into. I have 4 different air mattresses and if I am car camping, I pick two just to cover the bases because I am in a vehicle or tent camping nearby. If I am out in the boonies, I am very careful to pick wisely taking into consideration the terrain, weight, weather etc. I guess the question is what is best for you and your body and tolerances. Oh, I also take a repair kit just in case, I got mine at Walmart camping area for cheap. Both of these brands are very good.
I ride a motorcycle, so space is at a premium and weight is an issue as well. Both of these mattresses seem excessively large and heavy when stored for anything but car camping. Just from what I can see in the video, I could fit about six full-size uninsulated mattresses in the space of the OneTigris DreamStar. I don't think a mattress pad should exceed the size and weight of my tent or my sleeping bag. Which led me to a question: have you tried combinations of two pads in any of your trials? Narrow pad on top of a wide pad. Thin pad on top of a thick pad. Insulated on top of uninsulated. Short ultralight pad on top of a full-size pad. I can imagine many combinations that would be smaller and lighter when packed and might work just as well or better. You've tested some of the better mattresses, so you have a good basis for comparison. At this point, you must have many mattress pads - assuming they didn't get washed away in the flood. You could line up the pads on a table with Post-it notes including dimensions, packed volume, weight, R-value. Or, you could assemble a spreadsheet including those values. If you got really ambitious, you could create tabs that compared various combinations fucusing on weight or volume. Then it would just be a matter of trying out the best combinations. You could do that in your back yard.
I have the Exped self inflating pad, and it's so good, just like DOD and Naturehike. It's expensive, but it does the work , fast to inflate and deflate. Bulky and huge just like the Naturehike.
Really like your channel with testing equipments. Wish you also could give size numbers in meter-standard, just like you give temperature in Celsius as a complement to Fahrenheit. Thank you for your efforts.
I don't think I'll ever be a fan of air mattresses until they make an affordable one that won't leak or puncture. Nothing is worse than having one deflate on a cold night leaving you with no insulation from the ground.
hey Luke how about a comparison test between these 4 matterasses ( DOD, NatureHike, One Tigris and Skymac) so we can see the differences? that would be a great video
Would you ever consider getting cheap stuff, like from Temu for example, to see if they could he any decent......, or you just after expensive 'known' items....?
if it takes that long to inflate, either you didn't open the correct valve or all the way, or the cold and it being compressed, or else the one you got might be damaged or defective. otherwise, someone somewhere in the company designed it properly but maybe a defect happened. it just doesn't make sense, i feel like it might be user related or defective.
Love the videos, keep up the great work. I did want to mention that the NatureHike Mattress has a deflate and inflate option,.When you inflate the mattress you will need to reverse the deflate tap fully over to inflate, I noticed when you attempted to inflate the NatureHike Mattress, you had the valve partially open, which will not inflate the mattress. Hope this makes sense and helps with the function of that unit. Take care and thanks again for all your content.
Car camping? In a campground? I want that mattress to have a built in motor and be thick. My last one was like $50 and lasted well over ten years both inside the house when kids slept over and out in a tent. This... seems like a bad value
I almost bought the Skymac after your review but ended up purchasing the Cymula brand that was very similar with an R13 rating. So far it has been perfect and comfortable for a side sleeper. Mine also says it self inflates to 80% in 5 minutes; yea not even close, using the bag is a must.
Over 4 lbs. definitely a car camper. Lots of car camping gear on this channel. This channel not for the backpacker or distance hiker. 3 lbs of storage sacks on every adventure.
@@briar35981 I'll admit that I'm not even a camping guy. I live in the mountains, so sometimes you have to use camping skills. If I was going to sleep outside, your hammock sounds easier.
Id like a mattress in the shape of the Ozark Trail one man tent, the old one. The floor is the shape of 2 Dimonds put together with the tip chopped off.
As someone who grew up poor with two parents who both experienced the Great Depression, I have always had a kind of minimalistic, what is currently termed Prepping mindset towards all of my outdoors gear. The only advantage that I can see for any of these thick, high R-value air mattresses is the ability to reduce their storage volume for transportation purposes.
For approximately the same amount of money, $145.00, one can purchase a *Wiggy's Luxurious Ground Pad* measuring 28" wide by 72" long by approximately 2.5" thick. The Wiggy's Luxurious Ground Pad utilizes a very thick and dense, Lamilite-style synthetic insulation fill that is encased in Wiggy's standard, 2" thick, Ground Pad envelope. With a weight of 5 pounds the 72" long pad is certainly competitive with the air mattress pads that Luke has reviewed recently. If one chooses to get the longer version measuring 84" long, then the weight rises to 5.5 pounds. Both pads have an approximate temperature rating of -40° Fahrenheit if utilized with an appropriate Artic/Antarctic/high-altitude sleeping bag.
The Wiggy's pad won't compress down anywhere close to what any of these thick air mattresses are capable of. But, for car camping, that shouldn't need to be a priority.
Wiggy’s is top shelf gear!
Hey Luke, OT finally put the name of the item on the outside of the bag..... thought you would mention that......😮
He has in previous videos
Self inflating pads work best when stored inflated or at least expanded without pressure. I store a Therm-a-Rest MondoKing that way and it self inflates very well regardless of temperature. I also keep their self inflating Trail Pro packed in my motorcycle camping kit and it does not inflate as well because of the constant compression when stored . Similarly to this comparison, the Trail Pro and the Neo Air have the same footprint, but obviously the Neo Air compacts down much smaller because of the insulation and R-value differences. If you want your self-inflating pads to self inflate don’t store them rolled up. Great review as always! For anyone wanting one of these larger pads, I’d make my decision based on the R-value and intended use. (Also a word to the wise,do not go off and leave your pads inflated on hot days they can expand and separate the glue seams and even explode.)
One thing you have to do with foam (self inflating) mattresses that you don't with regular inflatables is you have to store them inflated. They perform best when stored fully inflated, so the foam isn't compressed for extended periods of time, which will slow its recovery/inflation when you're ready to use it. I actually like the form factor of the Dreamstar a little more than the Naturehike, but as a larger individual (6' 2", 230 lbs), I tend to lean toward thicker, larger mattresses. However, in this case, I'm thinking the Onetigris pad looks like it will fit better on a hiking cot (the low ones), which has become a constant in my winter/car camping loadout. I tend to like foam/self-inflating pads more in winter because they don't lose loft in the night like inflatable pads do.
@@mclostinthewoods I’ve got Thermarest pads from the 70’s, stored as you recommended, all still working fine.
I imagine the difference between a 3 inch mattress and a 4 inch mattress is more noticeable if you're heavier.
@@wisenber you better believe it!
If your a side sleeper or roll in the night, you cannot sleep on anything but 4 inches or more; and yes that 1 inch adds a lot - ask your wife. :)
That is a deeply clever design.
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The more compact size for storage and transport makes the OT look interesting to me. And being a bit smaller inflated could be a benefit in some situations. Some of my tents, and the home-built "bunk" in the back of my pickup shell put space (including head room) at a premium even for one person. 😊 It's NICE to have options! 😊
Looks like a great piece of kit for car camping.
I have the full size Lost Horizon mattress from Amazon and it’s very similar . Only $140 on sale and it’s extremely comfy . Glad company’s are working on this hybrid tech . My back and sides are grateful 😂
If I were to choose, I would probably go for the OneTigris pad. This is because if I do car camp, I do it in a medium size SUV where space can be an issue. A 27.5in pad is about the limit of how wide I can go without taking up too much space. Also the smaller pack size helps.
I am wondering if the self inflation time is difference is down to product test without thinking it through, rather than any attempt to pull the wool over our eyes. One Tigris is based in Shenzhen, southern China, where temperatures get up to 40+ Deg C in the summer. If they tested the pad in those temps, all the plastics in the mattress will be more pliable, and self inflation of a warm product with warm air could be much faster.
As a 200 pound side sleeper my instinct is to go for thickness over packability or even weight....I cannot STAND for a hip or shoulder (or both) to dig into the ground. Honestly I'd go for the Skyemac, their fire pit/stove is still my go to...that company isn't messing around, their stuff is good.
For car/truck camping id say as thick as possible!! I thankfully have full build with an 8" foam mattress! Testing the diesel heater tonight in Northern wisconsin, forecasted low is -10F
Hey Luke, you think you could check out a Tent from OneTigris. I don't think you've covered this tent yet, its called OneTigris Platoon Camping Tent. From what I've seen it looks very versatile and can be used with or without a bug inner which you need to purchase the inner separately. Also the awning can be setup in multiple ways which is very intriguing.
In some of our first camping videos, I used a bunkbed mattress. It worked great that night but not something you want to hike with 😂.
I agree it totally depends on the situation you're going into. I have 4 different air mattresses and if I am car camping, I pick two just to cover the bases because I am in a vehicle or tent camping nearby. If I am out in the boonies, I am very careful to pick wisely taking into consideration the terrain, weight, weather etc. I guess the question is what is best for you and your body and tolerances. Oh, I also take a repair kit just in case, I got mine at Walmart camping area for cheap. Both of these brands are very good.
I Bloody like this product, it's a Bloody good one.😊
i invested in a self inflating foam mattress last year, a berghaus (it looks just like the onetigris). its so comfy, its just like my bed at home.
I wonder if it self-inflates better in warmer weather
That would make a lot of sense.
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I ride a motorcycle, so space is at a premium and weight is an issue as well. Both of these mattresses seem excessively large and heavy when stored for anything but car camping. Just from what I can see in the video, I could fit about six full-size uninsulated mattresses in the space of the OneTigris DreamStar. I don't think a mattress pad should exceed the size and weight of my tent or my sleeping bag.
Which led me to a question: have you tried combinations of two pads in any of your trials? Narrow pad on top of a wide pad. Thin pad on top of a thick pad. Insulated on top of uninsulated. Short ultralight pad on top of a full-size pad. I can imagine many combinations that would be smaller and lighter when packed and might work just as well or better. You've tested some of the better mattresses, so you have a good basis for comparison.
At this point, you must have many mattress pads - assuming they didn't get washed away in the flood. You could line up the pads on a table with Post-it notes including dimensions, packed volume, weight, R-value. Or, you could assemble a spreadsheet including those values. If you got really ambitious, you could create tabs that compared various combinations fucusing on weight or volume. Then it would just be a matter of trying out the best combinations. You could do that in your back yard.
I have the Exped self inflating pad, and it's so good, just like DOD and Naturehike. It's expensive, but it does the work , fast to inflate and deflate. Bulky and huge just like the Naturehike.
Really like your channel with testing equipments.
Wish you also could give size numbers in meter-standard, just like you give temperature in Celsius as a complement to Fahrenheit.
Thank you for your efforts.
Think 💬 I'd go with the nature hike mattress would be my preference
I know you’re beat, so tired it’s hard to move, muddy, cold, wet and hungry; but, “You look marvelous”…smiling…from an old veteran, retired in the US.
I checked the product description. A bit worried about the 100 kg weight limit, as I am slightly heavier. Guess I will keep my old one...
I don't think I'll ever be a fan of air mattresses until they make an affordable one that won't leak or puncture. Nothing is worse than having one deflate on a cold night leaving you with no insulation from the ground.
I have and love the Naturehike mattress, but I might have to buy this one as well.
I bought Naturehike's R8.8 pad. It is ultralight, intended for backpacking, but almost 5" thick! I am looking forward to 5" of comfort
The self inflation rate should be a function of the ambient temperature. Test inflation rates at differing temps would be analytic.
Exactly what I was thinking. Set it out in the sun on a warm day as watch how quickly it self inflates.
I have the Naturehike one and I love it..
Does it smell at all?
I would use my flextail inflator
Greetings everyone from North Borneo ✨️
My commiserations.
@scotbotvideos It's paradise ✨️
@ If you say so.
hi there... how is the water?
It is like paradise. I spent a couple weeks at Semporna last year. Absolutely out of this world beautiful.
hey Luke how about a comparison test between these 4 matterasses ( DOD, NatureHike, One Tigris and Skymac) so we can see the differences? that would be a great video
6:20 DOO DOO ALERT 😂
Drinking game: take a shot each time Luke says 'bloody'.
I love it when Americans use English swear words. 😂
I was going to say "grab handle"..
@@DeeJayEll It feels weird, though.
@@brianb5397 That'll do, too.
Luke and I watch a lot of vids from the UK, I love to confuse people with my Brit words for things !
💒🙏 to those heading out in these extreme temperatures prayers to you all. that being said have many backup plans 🏔🏕
Can this be stored in its bag for long periods without it being permanently compressed?
Would you ever consider getting cheap stuff, like from Temu for example, to see if they could he any decent......, or you just after expensive 'known' items....?
He has full series of cheap stuff to see if they're complete garbage or not!
Luke had often purchased and reviewed gear from Temu, AliExpress, Wish etc.
It would be interesting to see if it inflates faster with future inflations after being compressed for long period.
A comparable mattress is the Noamer which is 2x the price.
Correction Nemo Roamer
How do you believe this will translate to Hammock camping?
Does the Flextail Zero Pump fit the valve?
Hard to improve on a Thermarest Mondo King.
if it takes that long to inflate, either you didn't open the correct valve or all the way, or the cold and it being compressed, or else the one you got might be damaged or defective. otherwise, someone somewhere in the company designed it properly but maybe a defect happened. it just doesn't make sense, i feel like it might be user related or defective.
Lut were is Susie we miss your adventure together and maybe take both with you
Love the videos, keep up the great work. I did want to mention that the NatureHike Mattress has a deflate and inflate option,.When you inflate the mattress you will need to reverse the deflate tap fully over to inflate, I noticed when you attempted to inflate the NatureHike Mattress, you had the valve partially open, which will not inflate the mattress. Hope this makes sense and helps with the function of that unit. Take care and thanks again for all your content.
I like it one tigris
Awesome ❤❤❤
Love my much smaller Exped Dura 3R-car or backpack! 🥰🥰🥰
I’d get the NatureHike mattress for car/truck camping, and the OneTigris for tent camping.
that's what she said , lol😮 @7:32-7:36
Car camping? In a campground? I want that mattress to have a built in motor and be thick. My last one was like $50 and lasted well over ten years both inside the house when kids slept over and out in a tent. This... seems like a bad value
I car camp with a genuine Japanese Futon. It's the only way. Air Matresses always leak. I hate them. Haven't used them in 15 years.
That look so blue to me lol
3" thick mattress....that's a good mattress, yeah normal perfectly fine thickness 😢
Bit confused 😕 'Available in one colour only...deep grey...almost black' But the one being reviewed is blue! So not just one colour 😅
Think it just appears blue because of the effect of his camera settings / post-production. He seems to have that issue with lots of gear.
@scotbotvideos Thanks 😊 I thought it might be reflecting the local ambient light, but it was so different to the promo cost pics shown.
Looks like the white balance was locked in at the beginning of the segment and as the shadow overtook the scene it allowed too much blue.
@@jonathanreedpike It's quite common on his videos. Makes some scenes seem pretty weird.
it’s too narrow
I enjoy watching your show, but Luke, your a dork.😂😂
The thumbnail makes the 6ft5 matress look 2 feet taller than Luke. How short is he? 😮
Yes
Bloody hell mate! Please never say " Not much different between 3&4 inches when yer sitting on it!" Cringe Luke. 😂
It's probably dead stock and it's been in the warehouse for so long that the inflation doesn't work on it
Typically these materials will degrade and start to stick together especially in a warehouse in China
bloody hell luke, less of the bloody swearing, bloody bloody disgusting. 😂😂
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I almost bought the Skymac after your review but ended up purchasing the Cymula brand that was very similar with an R13 rating. So far it has been perfect and comfortable for a side sleeper. Mine also says it self inflates to 80% in 5 minutes; yea not even close, using the bag is a must.
Over 4 lbs. definitely a car camper. Lots of car camping gear on this channel. This channel not for the backpacker or distance hiker. 3 lbs of storage sacks on every adventure.
awesome
With that much effort, why not just use a hammock sleep system?
For sure. I have a Warbonnet Bridge hammock. I'm up and ready in less than 5 minutes now. A little longer with underquilt.
@@briar35981 I'll admit that I'm not even a camping guy. I live in the mountains, so sometimes you have to use camping skills. If I was going to sleep outside, your hammock sounds easier.
Id like a mattress in the shape of the Ozark Trail one man tent, the old one. The floor is the shape of 2 Dimonds put together with the tip chopped off.
Nice,👍
lol
That can't be a one Tigris product the product name is on the storage bag what blasphamy is this
Omg not another one tigress review. How big is the check you get from these guys..can anyone say big agnes....
He said do do😂