Great idea thanks. My ignition works but I may just install a switch and run some wire (without landing)as a backup plan. Things like this always seem to break when you're deep in the woods somewhere.
@@rickchristensen3530 is there a wire from the win module tied in with push button. I tried this on my 2012 1500 ram just at lthe fuse box I jumped the 2 wires u showed but it just runs the starter
@@billythekid8191 I wasn't able to try it, next day my boss got towed to the dealer, they said 800 parts and labor in writing but after 3 months there trying to figure it out and and invoice for almost 4k( my boss only paid those 800) they fixed and outside was they mire owner as my boss sold it Never knew what the problem was
Hey I tried this on my '11 Grand Caravan and it worked! So thanks for that! One question: how in the world did you get 12ga wire to fit in the slot along with the relay? There's not much room in there...
This does work, the key switch goes out, cost several hundred dollars and has to be reprogrammed for about $300. More new junk BS. You can not climb under the truck and jump the starter like the old days because the solenoid post is protected. This is the quick fix and yes it works, I have done it. Periodically the key does nothing then goes out like it did when I turn the truck off to place an order. I pulled and replaced the relay several times and once with the key on I pulled it and when I plugged it back in, the started ignited and started the truck. Drove another 80 miles home, turned it off and would not start so tomorrow, I will install one in the dash. the first time I just attached it under the hood to test the starter solenoid and the switch worked for several months and started the crap again. Install this so you will not be stuck on the side of the road or pay a tow truck and mechanic $1500.
Succstrat check out my other video on the subject. It’s not too hard to take the win module apart and clean the contacts and then bend them to make more firm contact
Hi my name s TK and I saw your video bypass the wind control module so I have the same problem for my Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 3.7 l so can you please show me how to bypass it thank you so much if you can help me out 🙏
Boy this looks like an easy fix, I have a 2011 Cummins as well and my WIN is starting to go. My question is will this damage anything or make the computer through any codes? Last thing I want is to cause more harm
Could a problem with the WIN cause a vehicle to die while going down the road and make the vehicle activate engine immobilization/security system? 2012 Jeep GC Never has trouble starting just dies driving then won't start back until bypassing security?? Has already had fuel pump relay recall years ago, haven't had any issues with that.
It could be. The contacts inside the WIN module stop making good connections and it can lose continuity to any wire and cause all sorts of goofy things to happen
so the Red hot wire is going to One side of the switch under the dash, and the other side of the switch is the black wire, going to that spot where the relay plugged in, correct ? Do all your lights and gauges work still on the dash ? You may want to mention that you used whats called a Momentary push button switch, for the starter button. Nice video, good work. Im working on fixing a No start on my 08 Magnum.
Rick, I have a 2011 Caravan, seems to have the same fuse box as your truck. To test this... insert wire in relay hole, insert starter solenoid relay, turn keyfob to on, touch wire to + battery terminal, presto? I bought it used and hoping it will last another 12 Mo's but have been having a random no start issue the last 2 months.
Hi Rick, how is the switch holding up after all this time? I need a WIN module, I can start it up intermittenly, but needs replacement...not a cheap part..I will try your fix, but curious if it set off any codes or caused any issues after all this time.
Joey D it’s still working great, I did get a CEL but it was for “wait to start lamp”. I’ve cleared it and it comes and goes. As far as other codes being caused from this as far as the ECM is concerned as soon as the key is on the ecm is just waiting for the engine to spin
Thank Rick, I just left the dealership, theyre fixing recalls, and got a quote for over $700 for ignition! I'm going to do what you did in a couple days. Any other advice or tips other than whats in the video? wire guage? Thanks again.
12 ga is fine. If you didn’t want to mess with the relays you could come off the with a fuse go to the new switch you install then right to the starter just cut the wire to the starter and connect yours to it
@@rickchristensen3530 hey Rick I have came across your post. Will this work for a 1500 hemi. I have replaced the win module 3 time and now it's doing the same thing. I'm so over this problem.
It works really well but I can't get it to start, it will turn over but won't start. The anti theft light is blinkingand and I can't get it to reset,what do I do?
I have a 2010 Dodge Ram doing this. I turn the key several times before it ever starts. If I open up the win module and clean those contacts would that help? Or if I replace the win module should that fix it, and does it require reprogramming at a dealer since it's a new module and new keys?
What do you do when you have no power to anything when you turn your key?? How did you power your ignition I don't think this will work for me only power I have is to turn lights on doorbell dosnt even ring when door is open saying key in ignition
How much to do a 2010 dodge ram. I have same problem in the morning. But once it starts I dont have a problem all day. Only in mornings. Does cold weather affect it also
Frank Olivarez i have problem with our 2010 2500 and it only remote starts fine, but with key then it rest all electronics and makes wipers move once when turned on and it clicks three times and barley starts up.
Also the key doesn’t even ding with mine… I’m trying to bypass the security system as well for some dumb ass reason it’s tripped and fobs stopped working
i have a 2012 ram 1500 my wireless ignition was acting up , i tried this now the factory vehicles security light is flashing now i get no crank ,i dont even have an alarm ,i need to get my truck going for work ,any ideas
Rick Christensen I’ll get it to the stealership hopefully at the most they will reflash or reprogram the wireless ignition Node , if not theyll want to replace it $$ its gonna be a long week
I don’t think it would because at that point the ECM isn’t being told to “let” the engine run. You can test this really easily by getting a short wire and while the key is on touch the wire to positive battery terminal and the terminal under the relay that goes to the starter solenoid. The engine will crank and if it starts you’ll know you’re good to go. This way you don’t have to cut or drill or even buy anything to know if it work. This is what I did first before what I showed in the video because I’m cheap
Thank you for the reply. I will try what you suggested. My truck is immobilized. Tried a new pre-programmed ECU..no luck. Starting to think the WIN is bad, but a new programmed one is over $800! If i could just get it started, i could take it to get a remote start with immobilizer bypass module installed. Only $300. If you have any ideas on how to temporarily bypass the immobilizer, please let me know. Much appreciated! Thank you!
My win is bad to my truck is a fish floating no power to anything but lights and manual locks anyway to bypass the win module, who designed this crap is love to give them a piece of my mind.
It should be very similar to mine you can try hooking a jumper wire right from the battery and touch it to the starter solenoid and see if it turns over. To do this unplug the wire from the starter and connect a jumper wire to the starter. Then just touch it to the positive terminal on the battery. If the key is on it should turn over and start as if you tuned the key to start
Hi. I did to my 2011 ram 1500 with 4.7 , I followed your instructions, and the new button will turn motor over but it won't crank that way. Did I do something wrong? Any help would be appreciated thanx
No power to ignition, if the key is on then there’s a good chance the win module is no good at all, unless the security feature has been tripped. In that case the dealer will have to reset it
James Burdine correct. The ignition circuit in the win module must be on the fritz too. You might have to “wiggle” the key until all the lights come on before you crank. But if the win module is that bad it might just need to be replaced. I haven’t dared mess with the ignition power wire for fear of tripping the security light
Rick Christensen I think it might be some type of antitheft that doesn’t allow the fuel pump to kick when using the starter switch. I broke down the win module and cleaned what I could. But yeah it’s selective some times it cracks over no pressure sometimes you have to wiggle it.
You watch too much TV the wires you twist together are ACC and Run wires and the momentarily touch them with the start wire till the engine turns over and most shows show them touching two wires until it starts and then twist together. That would crank the starter and if the engine did miraculously start it would be the same effect that results from turning the key to start a car that's already running That was done intentionally to prevent people from stealing cars the same way you wouldn't fully disclose on UA-cam that adding Gasoline powder soap detergent and J---- as an immulcifyer for Na----. 😂
Rick i tried the short wire test from solenoid to positive and it cranks. No start. When i get a WIN malfunction the truck goes dead. I have to remove battery cables for a few mins then try again. Sometimes when i shut my door the power comes back.. same as smacking my steering wheel. I changed the battery in the fob and sometimes it works great for a week or so. Not sure if its the fob, the WIN module or door actuator. I bought it used. Fob wasnt in the greatest condition. Any pointers on where i can start to rule things out? Thank you
Ive ruled out the door actuator. I replaced the battery in fob. If i wiggle the fobik it kills the engine if running and kills the power if trying to start. Ive found that removing only the negative cable wasnt enough. I remove both pos and neg. wait about 2-3mins. And then it sometimes works. My confusion is that your test before installing the push button... only cranked the starter. The engine didnt turn over. Going to grab some 12 ga wire and try again.
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We need more videos like this one nice work 👍
Great hack, Rick; I think that I am likely facing that soon... Much obliged.
Worked great ! Thanks
Great idea thanks. My ignition works but I may just install a switch and run some wire (without landing)as a backup plan. Things like this always seem to break when you're deep in the woods somewhere.
I know Right! Always 😅
Hats off to you my astute brother and anyone who can outsmart the Stealerships and Ram Engineers!! Bravo $800 Dodge give me a F'in break!!
1cleandude thanks man, a guys gotta save $$ where he can.
@@rickchristensen3530 is there a wire from the win module tied in with push button. I tried this on my 2012 1500 ram just at lthe fuse box I jumped the 2 wires u showed but it just runs the starter
I definitely will try this, our work ram 1500 with the same key hasn't started in almost a month
Did that work?
@@billythekid8191 I wasn't able to try it, next day my boss got towed to the dealer, they said 800 parts and labor in writing but after 3 months there trying to figure it out and and invoice for almost 4k( my boss only paid those 800) they fixed and outside was they mire owner as my boss sold it
Never knew what the problem was
thank you fix it 2005 jeep grand!
Hey I tried this on my '11 Grand Caravan and it worked! So thanks for that! One question: how in the world did you get 12ga wire to fit in the slot along with the relay? There's not much room in there...
My exact question!!!!!!
This does work, the key switch goes out, cost several hundred dollars and has to be reprogrammed for about $300. More new junk BS. You can not climb under the truck and jump the starter like the old days because the solenoid post is protected. This is the quick fix and yes it works, I have done it. Periodically the key does nothing then goes out like it did when I turn the truck off to place an order. I pulled and replaced the relay several times and once with the key on I pulled it and when I plugged it back in, the started ignited and started the truck. Drove another 80 miles home, turned it off and would not start so tomorrow, I will install one in the dash. the first time I just attached it under the hood to test the starter solenoid and the switch worked for several months and started the crap again. Install this so you will not be stuck on the side of the road or pay a tow truck and mechanic $1500.
Succstrat check out my other video on the subject. It’s not too hard to take the win module apart and clean the contacts and then bend them to make more firm contact
What’s the process of adding the button ? Best video I seen yet.
Brilliant
Where did you hook up the original wire harness? Or did you just leave it hooked up ?
Can you do this same process on a 2019 ram classic? My truck is doing the same thing your is in the vid
Nice work thank you
Hi my name s TK and I saw your video bypass the wind control module so I have the same problem for my Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 3.7 l so can you please show me how to bypass it thank you so much if you can help me out 🙏
Boy this looks like an easy fix, I have a 2011 Cummins as well and my WIN is starting to go. My question is will this damage anything or make the computer through any codes? Last thing I want is to cause more harm
Could a problem with the WIN cause a vehicle to die while going down the road and make the vehicle activate engine immobilization/security system? 2012 Jeep GC Never has trouble starting just dies driving then won't start back until bypassing security?? Has already had fuel pump relay recall years ago, haven't had any issues with that.
It could be. The contacts inside the WIN module stop making good connections and it can lose continuity to any wire and cause all sorts of goofy things to happen
so the Red hot wire is going to One side of the switch under the dash, and the other side of the switch is the black wire, going to that spot where the relay plugged in, correct ?
Do all your lights and gauges work still on the dash ? You may want to mention that you used whats called a Momentary push button switch, for the starter button. Nice video, good work. Im working on fixing a No start on my 08 Magnum.
Where's does the red wire. I did this to my 2012 Ram and ya it just turns the starter. Could any show me explain to me where the red wires go.
Rick, I have a 2011 Caravan, seems to have the same fuse box as your truck. To test this... insert wire in relay hole, insert starter solenoid relay, turn keyfob to on, touch wire to + battery terminal, presto? I bought it used and hoping it will last another 12 Mo's but have been having a random no start issue the last 2 months.
Yes it should work as long as you’re getting current to the starter solenoid part of the relay. If it works by “jumping” it you will be good to go
Rick Christensen thanks. I'll try it today.
Worked like a charm! Now just have to run some wire.
What amp switch?
Hi Rick, how is the switch holding up after all this time?
I need a WIN module, I can start it up intermittenly, but needs replacement...not a cheap part..I will try your fix, but curious if it set off any codes or caused any issues after all this time.
Joey D it’s still working great, I did get a CEL but it was for “wait to start lamp”. I’ve cleared it and it comes and goes. As far as other codes being caused from this as far as the ECM is concerned as soon as the key is on the ecm is just waiting for the engine to spin
Thank Rick, I just left the dealership, theyre fixing recalls, and got a quote for over $700 for ignition!
I'm going to do what you did in a couple days. Any other advice or tips other than whats in the video? wire guage?
Thanks again.
12 ga is fine. If you didn’t want to mess with the relays you could come off the with a fuse go to the new switch you install then right to the starter just cut the wire to the starter and connect yours to it
@@rickchristensen3530 hey Rick I have came across your post. Will this work for a 1500 hemi. I have replaced the win module 3 time and now it's doing the same thing. I'm so over this problem.
Will this work for 2010 challenger SE?
Will this work for a 2010 challenger SE?
Will this work on a 2014 dodge caravan?
It works really well but I can't get it to start, it will turn over but won't start. The anti theft light is blinkingand and I can't get it to reset,what do I do?
Same issue 2012 dodge 1500. Keys in ignition on position. Doesn’t turn over. Only engages
Can I use .14 AWG wire?
I have a 2010 Dodge Ram doing this. I turn the key several times before it ever starts. If I open up the win module and clean those contacts would that help? Or if I replace the win module should that fix it, and does it require reprogramming at a dealer since it's a new module and new keys?
I made another video of me taking it apart and cleaning the terminals and bending them a bit to make better contact
ua-cam.com/video/xOz0kzDyv6c/v-deo.html
Thank you!
but does you fuel turn on wen u turn the key on aLso does your red security light ever turn on and does it stay on wen ur driving
You ever find a fix my win module went out but i have anti theft stuck on ignition doesnt react to key at all.
What do you do when you have no power to anything when you turn your key?? How did you power your ignition I don't think this will work for me only power I have is to turn lights on doorbell dosnt even ring when door is open saying key in ignition
I'm having the same issue
Also have this problem did ya figure it out ??
Can I do this with a 2015 1500
1:44 would this work on a 2013 Ram 1500
How much to do a 2010 dodge ram. I have same problem in the morning. But once it starts I dont have a problem all day. Only in mornings. Does cold weather affect it also
I have just had it happen to me on my 2010 ram yesterday , was like 2 degrees outside. Trying to rule everything else out
Happening to my 2010 dodge ram.
Frank Olivarez i have problem with our 2010 2500 and it only remote starts fine, but with key then it rest all electronics and makes wipers move once when turned on and it clicks three times and barley starts up.
Will this work if the security light is on and flashing I can’t get the stupid thing to shut off
Also the key doesn’t even ding with mine… I’m trying to bypass the security system as well for some dumb ass reason it’s tripped and fobs stopped working
i have a 2012 ram 1500 my wireless ignition was acting up , i tried this now the factory vehicles security light is flashing now i get no crank ,i dont even have an alarm ,i need to get my truck going for work ,any ideas
I’m pretty sure if you’ve set off the ignition security you’ll have to have a dealership reset it
ok thanks looks like im headed there in the morning
carlos lehder bummer man. Did you unplug the ignition module
Rick Christensen no i was thinking i needed it for the run connection so the switch woyld work and also to turn it off
Rick Christensen I’ll get it to the stealership hopefully at the most they will reflash or reprogram the wireless ignition Node , if not theyll want to replace it $$ its gonna be a long week
would this be the same on a 2012 grand caravan
I think so, if not the exact but pretty close
Hey I tried this and the starter goes but the truck won't fire am I missing something?
Rick, would this work if WIN module is in immobilization mode and red security light is flashing?
I don’t think it would because at that point the ECM isn’t being told to “let” the engine run. You can test this really easily by getting a short wire and while the key is on touch the wire to positive battery terminal and the terminal under the relay that goes to the starter solenoid. The engine will crank and if it starts you’ll know you’re good to go. This way you don’t have to cut or drill or even buy anything to know if it work. This is what I did first before what I showed in the video because I’m cheap
Thank you for the reply. I will try what you suggested. My truck is immobilized. Tried a new pre-programmed ECU..no luck. Starting to think the WIN is bad, but a new programmed one is over $800! If i could just get it started, i could take it to get a remote start with immobilizer bypass module installed. Only $300. If you have any ideas on how to temporarily bypass the immobilizer, please let me know. Much appreciated! Thank you!
My win is bad to my truck is a fish floating no power to anything but lights and manual locks anyway to bypass the win module, who designed this crap is love to give them a piece of my mind.
@@rpkeeney1029 where do u get that imboliezier thingy ur talking bout wat exactly is it
@@rpkeeney1029 wat excatLy is the bypass thing ur talking about wat is it called and where can I get one
Need help brother. I got a 2010 1500 ram! Trying to figure out where i have to hook up everything
Willing to pay
It should be very similar to mine you can try hooking a jumper wire right from the battery and touch it to the starter solenoid and see if it turns over. To do this unplug the wire from the starter and connect a jumper wire to the starter. Then just touch it to the positive terminal on the battery. If the key is on it should turn over and start as if you tuned the key to start
Hi. I did to my 2011 ram 1500 with 4.7 , I followed your instructions, and the new button will turn motor over but it won't crank that way. Did I do something wrong? Any help would be appreciated thanx
Is it a momentary switch? Just feeds the starter?
Make It Go yes it is, I made another video on how to pop open the module and clean the contacts so this isn’t necessarily the easiest way I’ve found
@@rickchristensen3530 where’s the other video
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In my 2012 ram I can’t even get dash lights to come on ?
Any idea what I should do look for
Good chance the WIN module isn’t making any contact inside on the terminals.
@@rickchristensen3530 thank you
I will be ordering new one or opening old one to repair it 👍🏻 thanks for input and great video 👍🏻
So does the truck still charge then?
Yes it does
How do you do this on a 2016 Dodge Ram 1500
I’m not sure but it might be very similar if not exactly the same relay. But either way just find your start relay and go from there
Will this work if it's a 2010 dodge charger
Did you ever fix your charger? I have the same car anti theft flashing
Is it the same for gas engine too
I don’t know, but I would assume it would be very similar. Look for the starter relay and go from there
ladies and gentlemen, dodge...... LOL
I think this messed up my truck
How’s that?
2012 Ram 1500 5.7 Tried this method cranks all day but no start. Any clue?
No power to ignition, if the key is on then there’s a good chance the win module is no good at all, unless the security feature has been tripped. In that case the dealer will have to reset it
Rick Christensen I managed to get the win module to work temporarily I guess, no security light
If it was tripped the module wouldn’t have returned to working it would have been rendered completely disabled and the security light tripped
James Burdine correct. The ignition circuit in the win module must be on the fritz too. You might have to “wiggle” the key until all the lights come on before you crank. But if the win module is that bad it might just need to be replaced. I haven’t dared mess with the ignition power wire for fear of tripping the security light
Rick Christensen I think it might be some type of antitheft that doesn’t allow the fuel pump to kick when using the starter switch. I broke down the win module and cleaned what I could. But yeah it’s selective some times it cracks over no pressure sometimes you have to wiggle it.
Can't I just touch the wires together like hotwiring it
Andrew Denine that’ll work
You watch too much TV the wires you twist together are ACC and Run wires and the momentarily touch them with the start wire till the engine turns over and most shows show them touching two wires until it starts and then twist together. That would crank the starter and if the engine did miraculously start it would be the same effect that results from turning the key to start a car that's already running That was done intentionally to prevent people from stealing cars the same way you wouldn't fully disclose on UA-cam that adding Gasoline powder soap detergent and J---- as an immulcifyer for Na----. 😂
Rick i tried the short wire test from solenoid to positive and it cranks. No start. When i get a WIN malfunction the truck goes dead. I have to remove battery cables for a few mins then try again.
Sometimes when i shut my door the power comes back.. same as smacking my steering wheel.
I changed the battery in the fob and sometimes it works great for a week or so. Not sure if its the fob, the WIN module or door actuator. I bought it used. Fob wasnt in the greatest condition. Any pointers on where i can start to rule things out? Thank you
2012 ram 2500 5.7
Ive ruled out the door actuator.
I replaced the battery in fob.
If i wiggle the fobik it kills the engine if running and kills the power if trying to start. Ive found that removing only the negative cable wasnt enough. I remove both pos and neg. wait about 2-3mins. And then it sometimes works.
My confusion is that your test before installing the push button... only cranked the starter. The engine didnt turn over. Going to grab some 12 ga wire and try again.
I just tried this on my 2011 ram it don't work
What about on a 2010..
I’m sure it would work on any vehicle
@@rickchristensen3530 you're right... I just need to figure out which spot to 8se... my box on my 2010 is completely different
@@epbmx4 any luck find it? I have the same truck trying to figure out wich where hook up the wires haha
Didn’t work for me brother
I got a 2500 Hemi
Easy to fix but the wrong way to do it spend the money and buy the right parts That's just being half ass
Explain how it’s the wrong way to do it
Didn’t work for me brother
I got a 2500 Hemi