In the very early game I recommend recruiting the subeshi archers. They have 175 range and easily outshoot the horse archers of your neighbors while coming from the 4th tier population. Extremely efficient against nomads and u can save population and money for melee cavalry
Man, seeing those new reform units really makes me wish one day we have a total war game that stretches from britain to japan during this time period. Even just India and the Himalayas would be incredible, history from that region and time is so under appreciated!
I saw one done in the DEI discord, he migrated all the way to Africa. He made sure to conquer and hold Bactria long enough to get the reforms, so you have to do that before migrating west if you want reforms.
Thanks! It depends on what the poll results turn out to be mate ;) Make sure you cast your vote to have your say! Although, yes the Mauryans are still coming very soon!
Great video! I'd love to see you play a few dozen turns as the Saka, I've tried it myself a few times and it's super brutal waging war against parthia and/or bactria with such poor early lands. You mentioned that it's nearly impossible (at the start or in general) to migrate since you're landlocked. I think it would be particularly interesting to sail across the Caspian Sea and/or walk through the lands on your way to the Armenian lands. They start off with a lot of enemies, and if you can take their provinces and grow a nomadic population, the gold and resources could give you a nice economic heartland to fund big horse archer armies? Seems like it could work, will update if I have success.
Thanks mate! I definitely would like to try and migrate as them, I just feel like many players wilm struggle with the migration, since you need to hold the Bactrian lands for a while to get their awesome reforms. Good luck to you let me know how you do!
Also it's a Chinese word for a people who were decidedly not Chinese in any way, shape, or form, so to call it "Chinese influence" is a misnomer. It's just the name the people of mdoern-day China called these people before they migrated westward.
Your content is amazing @immersaholic. Now, in your opinion, how would you rank the rosters of the 3 nomadic factions overall? For sure, Saka has the toughest campaign challenge early game
That and I prefer their heavy archer unit, very very heavy and their reforms are also easier to attain. The Saka reforms make getting their great units very difficult@@victorjacquemont5556
Definitly my favorite faction to date, the mod team really knocked it out of the park with the visuals. The only complaint is that all of their low tier infantry only have 200 men (Saka warriors/saka axemen), which is inferior to parthia, which is similar in alot of ways. That and tribal guard arn't recruitable as a melee unit. Otherwise they're perfect.
I think the decision to only give them 200 men infantry is to compensate for how strong their cavalry are and the only situation where you really need Saka infantry is if you want to fight sieges manually otherwise an all cavalry army is the way to go.
@Immersaholic the why i like them is a complex reason to explain,but... I love Horse Archers and shock cav based armies, and my people origin is related in culture and KIN to the MassaGETAE. Tomyris Queen of the Massagetae was the sister of a Dacian(Getae) king,Yuzehi Tocharian Nomads,who later formed the Kushan Empire(Not Chinese😅) looks amazing,all thier military roster looks 🌟 and 🌄 and the Battles in the Region against the Parni and Bactrians,Mauryans if you like, against the Persians are so immersive ❤️
@@Immersaholic The Saka are 1) a nomadic faction, that's always a plus. 2) They're not well documented, and that air of mystery has a lot of appeal to me. 3) Europa Barbarorum 2 painted the Saka/Bactrian wars in a very epic light, and that impression has always struck me. 4) they're aesthetically outstanding. Scythian cataphracts wearing tiger and leopard skins? The Saka are full of drip. And finally, 5) the Saka are the only Nomadic faction in Rome 2 who created a lasting, settled empire in the east. So succeeding as them feels significant, like you're seeing a historical story be made real.
In the very early game I recommend recruiting the subeshi archers. They have 175 range and easily outshoot the horse archers of your neighbors while coming from the 4th tier population. Extremely efficient against nomads and u can save population and money for melee cavalry
Very nice recommendation!
Man, seeing those new reform units really makes me wish one day we have a total war game that stretches from britain to japan during this time period. Even just India and the Himalayas would be incredible, history from that region and time is so under appreciated!
Giving me some hectic 3kingdoms vibes
Finally human-looking women for Rome II, after all this time!! Excellent review and superb work of the modders as usual btw
Absolutely! They look really really cool too, loved their outfits and armor! Not some unrealistic armor that's usually forced on women in movies/tv.
Glad to see all these faction reviews
Glad to see all of you!
Honestly a migration campaign would be pretty fun to see!
Mate that would be super hard but it would be a LOT of fun!!
I saw one done in the DEI discord, he migrated all the way to Africa. He made sure to conquer and hold Bactria long enough to get the reforms, so you have to do that before migrating west if you want reforms.
That seems like a really good strategy! I'll have to keep that in mind if I attempt a migration too ;) @@vergilroth
Ey Nomadic factions don't take attrition when they lose their last settlement, sooo ... Think about the possibilities ;)
I would love a saka campaign
Me too mate 🤔
aaaaa yes....almost forgot, how about a SAKA campain you mentioned and i personaly want to see it ❣
Saka migration campaign would be insanely fun
indeed will be probably very immersive one also, as you like it :P
@@Immersaholic
Awesome review as always! Can you pls review the Mauryans next
Thanks! It depends on what the poll results turn out to be mate ;) Make sure you cast your vote to have your say! Although, yes the Mauryans are still coming very soon!
Guess who’s back
Back again.. :P
I would absolutely love to see a Saka campaign, when are you uploading it? 😅
SoonTM :P
GETAE is next right ? and WELCOME back dude`
Depends on the poll results mate. Looks like ya Boiis will be next lol 😆
Getae could be up shortly after though? 🧐
IT. IS. TIME!!!
Just for you mate 😎🤝
Great video! I'd love to see you play a few dozen turns as the Saka, I've tried it myself a few times and it's super brutal waging war against parthia and/or bactria with such poor early lands.
You mentioned that it's nearly impossible (at the start or in general) to migrate since you're landlocked. I think it would be particularly interesting to sail across the Caspian Sea and/or walk through the lands on your way to the Armenian lands. They start off with a lot of enemies, and if you can take their provinces and grow a nomadic population, the gold and resources could give you a nice economic heartland to fund big horse archer armies? Seems like it could work, will update if I have success.
Thanks mate! I definitely would like to try and migrate as them, I just feel like many players wilm struggle with the migration, since you need to hold the Bactrian lands for a while to get their awesome reforms. Good luck to you let me know how you do!
Nice! Can’t wait for Bosporan Kingdom!
Yuezhi is modern Mandarin, the correct ancient Chinese prounciation is "Rouzhi"
Thanks for the heads up!
Also it's a Chinese word for a people who were decidedly not Chinese in any way, shape, or form, so to call it "Chinese influence" is a misnomer. It's just the name the people of mdoern-day China called these people before they migrated westward.
Yeeees babyyy 🎉❤😊 Thank you!
Thank you for watching! :)
Please could you do Ardiaei? 🥺
I definitely want to!
Campaign do it do it do it..!
I just may have to!
Your content is amazing @immersaholic. Now, in your opinion, how would you rank the rosters of the 3 nomadic factions overall? For sure, Saka has the toughest campaign challenge early game
Thanks so much!
If your only comparing their actual military rosters I’d argue the Scythians probably are about the most useful. Saka would be 2nd
@@Immersaholic would you argue that because of their hoplite frontline? I'd argue Saka horse archers and shock cav are better
That and I prefer their heavy archer unit, very very heavy and their reforms are also easier to attain. The Saka reforms make getting their great units very difficult@@victorjacquemont5556
Definitly my favorite faction to date, the mod team really knocked it out of the park with the visuals. The only complaint is that all of their low tier infantry only have 200 men (Saka warriors/saka axemen), which is inferior to parthia, which is similar in alot of ways. That and tribal guard arn't recruitable as a melee unit. Otherwise they're perfect.
I usually have favored Royal Scythia but with these awesome Eastern units I think the Saka have won me over... maybe :P
No they have more javelin so they are hybrid of skirmisher/infantry
Saka are awesome, but in my opinion the Rauxa Alanna are the coolest nomadic faction. Good shock cav and best HA catas plus actually good infantry.
I think the decision to only give them 200 men infantry is to compensate for how strong their cavalry are and the only situation where you really need Saka infantry is if you want to fight sieges manually otherwise an all cavalry army is the way to go.
Indeed, no faction can have everything, there must be some balance@@vergilroth
Why is it like leaving their face?
Great, make more of these Videos
Indeed I will!
@@Immersaholic thanks 😊 🙏
i just realized youve never reviewed the ardei faction
Me too :( I'm going to post a poll tomorrow when our new faction overview comes out but I reckon we gotta check them out asap!!
I see that S faction theme 😁
Happy accident I swear! :D
Massagetae aka Saka is my fav faction in D E I ❤
Why do you like them so much?
@Immersaholic the why i like them is a complex reason to explain,but... I love Horse Archers and shock cav based armies, and my people origin is related in culture and KIN to the MassaGETAE.
Tomyris Queen of the Massagetae was the sister of a Dacian(Getae) king,Yuzehi Tocharian Nomads,who later formed the Kushan Empire(Not Chinese😅) looks amazing,all thier military roster looks 🌟 and 🌄 and the Battles in the Region against the Parni and Bactrians,Mauryans if you like, against the Persians are so immersive ❤️
@@Immersaholic The Saka are 1) a nomadic faction, that's always a plus. 2) They're not well documented, and that air of mystery has a lot of appeal to me. 3) Europa Barbarorum 2 painted the Saka/Bactrian wars in a very epic light, and that impression has always struck me. 4) they're aesthetically outstanding. Scythian cataphracts wearing tiger and leopard skins? The Saka are full of drip. And finally, 5) the Saka are the only Nomadic faction in Rome 2 who created a lasting, settled empire in the east. So succeeding as them feels significant, like you're seeing a historical story be made real.
@@BrorealeKEB2 did so many things so well!! Thanks for adding in even more reasons to play them
@@BrorealeK love your comment and knowledge,TOP !