Please make a part 2. Leaving on the same turn that the end game disaster begins is such a tease. I want to see you frustratingly fight off endless tier 3 hunnic armies
@@LordDarkforactually, it wasn't the Pope that made the Huns go away, but it was the news of new Roman armies coming from Dalmatia. The Huns were exhausted and we're about to be encircled in the peninsula, so Attila decided to leave the peninsula
Holding Octodorum (minor settlement on the north west of Mediolanum) and Aqua Sextia (Major province on the south west of Octodorum) is a good idea. You need Iron for some of your army techs and the Eastern Roman tends to lose theirs and Aqua Sextia has the grape resource so you can keep it taxed and fed and use both of them to gather growth points for when you do your inevitable reexpansion for their respective provinces. Remember the fewer settlements you hold per province the quicker they gather growth. CA logic there. :P PS: The Warhammer strategy where you can bait barbarian stacks by sitting in high success chance ambush spots can work, since they get a campaign map movement bonus. You sit outside your settlements in a forest and reinforce range, they rush in for an easy settlement sack and you can attack them on your turn when they get close.
is that growth thing true? damn i got over 1000 hours played and ive beaten WRE and ERE on legendary and i didnt know that. Everytime i took a razed province id take all 3 settlements in 1 turn. fuckin CA man
@@solidusraiden2502 Growth just like food and sanitation in Attila, counts for the whole province. (In base Rome 2 food is global and sanitation is also not a thing).
@@masterexploder9668 If you dont believe me give it a try. For some reason either cause it counts up the growth points per settlement in a province and then averages them maybe. But take any non horde faction, take 1 region in a province, do a seperate save play for 10 turns and count the growth. Then load that previous save and take all 3 provinces and recount the growth. When you only have 1 of the provinces for some reason it is faster.
I've always loved just how bleak and foreboding and dour Attila's atmosphere feels, particularly when playing as Rome. Like you can really tell the way the world was for hundreds of years was burning down rapidly and violently and there was no way of stopping it.
only thing I hate on Attila is lighting - you literally cant see shit in half of battles. Thats why i´ll never play legendary bcs i want use saves for instances i cant get battlle where its visiblewhats actually going on :D
Also north Africa (mostly Carthago) region is a bread basket. If you're gonna go to pagan ways and use pagan buildings you're gonna need that region to keep food supplies up.
I managed to hold on to most of western Rome in my playthroughs. It just required excellent battle micromanagement, and fighting every battle to slow the enemy down.
Bro you definitely are entertaining enough of a presenter to branch out in to any grand strategy game and have your content be excellent and fun to watch
Long awaited video. It's fascinating that we have very similar taste for strategy games. Also, seeing you play such difficult games is really entertaining. Keep up the good work Bitt3r!
Shoutout to Legend of Total War! Im glad you decided to switch it up and play some total war in the mix of HOI4 i think strategy games are just your bread and butter in general.
I did the same strategy BUT: I held and built up in Africa, instead of Italy. More building slots and way more defendable since your south and east, and west are safe
скукатище, а что читы на деньги не включил, так ведь проще? Мой тебе совет, попробуй не покидать регионы и не сносить здания, а отдать Рим на растерзание варварам, и при этом удержаться в Африке. Конечно же ты не способен вывести такую игры, потому что слабак и выбираешь легкий путь. Можешь еще подрубить читы так еще проще будет.
I just finished the WRE campaign! I used the same strategy but I retreated to Spain and I kept Mauretania, everything else burns. The first 50 turns were crazy as endless armies show up on the Northern border, but I managed to hold on and built up a decent economy in Southern Spain and Mauritania, and later went on to restore the Empire :D Most fun campaign I had, it was intense of course. I feel that Italy, being at the center of the map, is more vulnerable than Spain. Even when I played Barbarian tribes, I tended to migrate to Spain and build up my Kingdom there. Also I've never seen Huns venture that far west into Spain.
скукатище, а что читы на деньги не включил, так ведь проще? Мой тебе совет, попробуй не покидать регионы и не сносить здания, а отдать Рим на растерзание варварам, и при этом удержаться в Африке. Конечно же ты не способен вывести такую игры, потому что слабак и выбираешь легкий путь. Можешь еще подрубить читы так еще проще будет.
We needed a person like you for this kind of challenges ! It's always good to see you play total war , i wouldn't be against more uploads related to total war games , thanks for this video bud
The last time I played WRE in Attila was with the Radious mod and some misc mods added aswell. I held the Germanic border from north to south (there's some really good defensive cities like Colonia and Argentoratum) and left an army garrisoning Camulodunum. I also left two or three armies in Northern Africa and defended Aquileia and the Augusta north of the Alps (Vindelicorum?)I liked the mod because in vanilla, the more you research, your public order and sanitation buildings get "forgotten" and in the late game the garrisons get like Tier 3 units. The trick (and the hustle) is to take advantage of the braindead AI to defeat invasions to cities (many Roman settlemens west and east have unbreakable walls near the town center and cavalry can do a lot of damage in this game) and have your emperor lead an army to fight tribes that migrate through your lands and try to settle. The more battles your monarch win, the more his influence will rise.
I like how the strategy to survive the "fall" of the Roman Empire is to basically do a hard reset back to the Punic Wars, then expand the empire the same way it did the first time xD
WRE starting strat: Immediately make trade agreements with any faction that is friendly enough to accept. Even if you have to pay a small amount of money, it is worth the price to raise relations and try to prevent more wars. Raise taxes one notch to bring in more money and prevent immigration. If anyone is at war with you, try to get other factions to join your war even if you need to pay them a small amount of money, it is worth the price to have the barbarians distracting each other. Delaying wars and distracting enemies is important in the early game because WRE is in shambles. Abandon Britannia Inferior on turn 1. Dismantle all the buildings in Britannia Superior except the ones in Londinium and then abandon the minor settlements. It's not worth the risk of a war and you can't realistically defend Britannia while you are defending everything else. The celts will be out for your land and they will be aggressive. Capturing Roman settlements will make them very powerful so don't give them the option, raze it all to the ground except Londinium. Britannia is the only place you realistically should not try to hold under any circumstances. Move your general in Britannia down to the crossing point on the European side, you will need him later. Now check your relationship with the Garamantians, if they are relatively friendly then you can keep Tripolitania and you should try to improve that relationship because they are the biggest threat in the African front. If they don't like you and you don't think you can reasonably repair the relationship, dismantle and then abandon Tripolitania. If they hate you then abandon it on turn 1. Dismantle all buildings in Mauritania but don't abandon the settlements. Keep 1 legion in Africa, and if you keep Tripolitania then maybe a small navy when you can afford it. Africa has a powerful economy so even though it can be difficult to protect it is worth holding onto. Remove taxation from Insulae Occidentalis but this is temporary, remember to eventually bring back taxation to keep immigration from getting too high, this move is just to keep the islands happy during the earliest turns without having to abandon them or devote resources to protecting them. Start building garrison buildings in Dalmatia, Belgica and Pannonia, these are going to be heavy battleground regions and if you abandon them then the next region will become the battleground so you may as well keep them. Also build garrison buildings in Africa, Raetia et Noricum and Maxima Sequanorum but this is a lower priority. Do not convert to Greco-Roman Paganism, but dismantle all churches aside from the ones in Italia, Insulae Occidentalis and Magna Graecia. For religion, rather than relying on expensive churches we will rely on strategically located governors. Put a governor in Africa, Carthaginensis, Lugdunensis and either Raetia et Noricum or Dalmatia (use a governor you consider expendable for this one, they are in constant danger). When you get a 5th governor you can put it in Italia, but don't worry about it right now. Maybe get some priests to spread religion in Italia and Magna Graecia to prevent paganism from running rampant. For all 4 governors you want to select the Christian Mission edicts. These act like churches for free, and placing them strategically like this lets you bathe almost the entire empire in free Latin Christianity influence which keeps Public Order from going crazy. You can use that church money you are saving to build fishing ports, cattle farms, sheep farms, markets which you can later turn into food markets. Wait for Britain to rebel in Londinium and for Hispania and/or Africa to rebel in Mauritania, then let them attack your cities there. Make sure to manually play the battle to whittle the rebels down to almost nothing and then lose on purpose. Then quickly sweep in with your legions and puppet them, and immediately establish trade with them. If you razed them then you would have to build them up from scratch. This will ensure you have powerful Roman allies developing these provinces for you without you needing to devote significant resources to protecting them. They might even help with any other rebellions that pop up nearby, freeing your legions for more important fronts. If any of the Celtic nations become a problem, you will be able to defend your toehold in Britannia much more effectively with AI backup which will allow you to recapture Britannia much more easily when you have the resources to devote to it. Fight all defensive battles that are not clear landslides in your favor manually. This is a grind especially in the beginning, but you can inflict so much more damage than the AI will. Even if you lose one battle, it will make them weaker for a counterattack or for their next attack which you can then win. You want to avoid losing battles though by fighting manually whenever you can. And whenever practical, set out to destroy with overwhelming force any troublesome enemies that keep striking you and then withdrawing to lick their wounds. The Quadrians are the best early game example. Even if you win the first battle, they will retreat and rebuild to attack you again. So whenever you can muster 2 or 3 legions together, go and defeat them entirely and raze their settlement to the ground so they can never be a threat again. You don't need to keep the Eastern Roman Empire alliance going if it becomes too inconvenient but it is good to keep it going as long as is reasonable, definitely keep relations high and keep the trade going. The ERE is a huge source of trade revenue and they have powerful armies which can be useful for keeping your African and Illyrian provinces safe, but they are also good for preventing Sassanid expansion which helps a lot when you get to the point of having to fight them. It might even be worth it, depending on the context, to sent a legion to help them if they begin struggling, but not at the expense of losing land of your own. Importantly, do not go to war with the Huns under any circumstances. It may be to your benefit when you have a powerful economy to bribe the Huns to join wars against your enemies, like the Sassanids for instance, but it can be expensive. Anything that diverts their gaze from Roman lands. Later game concerns but worth thinking about from the beginning. Personally, I fill out the entire first branch of military reforms before I even start on economic reforms. I don't do any of the reforms that remove Concrete until I have enough Imperial Libraries built in high food provinces that I can be happy with not having any more. And I especially do not do any of the reforms that remove my sanitary buildings, because Aqueduct Networks and Thermae are very useful. I do the economic reforms that unlock important buildings but I focus more on military reforms so I can get ahead of the enemy factions in terms of advanced units.
Lol bribing the Huns to attack the Sassanids is honestly brilliant. "Did we mention they are rich? Yep, anyways good luck boys, give'em hell. So uhhh, send a missive to Constantinople tell them help is on the way and they're welcome. " If only Honorius was this creative.
I beat a WRE campaign on Hard/Hard a few years ago. It was probably the toughest TW campaign I've ever played. I managed to hold on to most of my land in the initial stage until I could sort out my public order, food, and money problems, but that involved me fighting an absolute shitload of manual settlement battles and force marching armies to provide support to them. It would've been impossible without the garrison buildings because they provide JUST enough crack troops to hold the line and outflank the enemy with scout equites when they were bogged down.
I think total war games aren`t all that fun to watch with challenges like "can I survive this and that", but rather with challenges like "can I achieve this and that". E. g. reconquering the entirety of all roman lands.
Oo Bittersteel diversifying thats awesome. I'd love to see some EU4 videos, ive been getting back into that game since the new patch. It's better than ever somehow.
You don't need to burn regions any more, you can try and hold the empire with the exception of Britain, legends guide us for an older version of the game.
Exactly the same way I am currently tackling my Eastern Roman empire campaign.. scorched earth tactics and consolidation around the unbreakable Constantinople and it's surrounding areas.. good luck man, Roma Invicta!
It works, you only need to focus on Rome, and you start rebuilduing yourself. I prefer mostly, the strategy of abandoning everything, and just hold Italy, Spain and the islands of Baleric(i think they are called), Corsica and Sardinia. Both strategys worked good back in the day and they still work.
Easiest solution for WRE is collapsing everything and keep a fortified area of your choice then reorganize and take back everything later. Problem is the time consuming nature. Hardest solution is keeping everything and try to reorganize the whole empire. Thats a really big headache and makes that TW game on of the best releases, even though it got a lot of hate, I think it is brilliant.
In one of my Western Rome campaigns I kept sending gifts to the Huns, even if it jus very little gold. This made them like me enough, especially when we both had a war with the same factions (mainly germanic tribes). It was fun to bribe them into joining wars and see all those who opposed them be stomped into the dirt by Attill and his hordes.
My actual strategy was manually winning every defensive settlement battle. Like. EVERY battle possible. From all strategy games I always perfect my defense first. And the ones that weren't possible, i still did manual and dealt like 1200 casualties with 300 troops. The tribes and barbarians quickly run out of men to push, while they regain power, I consolidate and push back. On ERE it worked even better, the Ostrogoths completely died out after attacking my level 1 settlement twice and I not only managed to hold all provinces intact, but expand into Sassanid empire ( +mesopotamia) and Italia (+ magna graecia). Of course, corruption is eating me alive (50% of my income just disappears) but the faction trait fixes it
Love seeing some attila. You can keep iberia usually too as western rome 3 armies for iberia 3 for rome is usually good because of towers and roman cav garrison shenanigans
I don't know if you know this...you probably do but the best way to beat Atilla and his horses is spear spam as the Romans. The testudo makes them(Spears) almost impervious to arrow fire and cav can not beat spears cost effectively in melee not even on legendary. Remember to testudo though. What you want to do is spam a full stack of spears, pick a corner of the map and then stack spears ontop of eachtoger in say three rows with your generals in the furstest back. What will happen is that Atilla is charge your spears after he runs out of ammo and then just be ground to a paste. But that won't win it for you. No sir. You will loose entire armies(make sure to withdraw your general to not get him killed) but you will take more then enough with you. But again remember that won't win you the fights mostly because the Huns also have infantry(infantry that out classes you by miles) they will kill your spear spam...and you just have to take it. Still, remember that this way you will defeat the Huhs even if a lot of your men will die. Sorry I don't have a better start. Also P.S, don't build melee infantry other than Spears, they are in not good, especially with the AI cheats on legendary.
buddy put da trailer park boys meme in there, chad move. also Ive had some disgusting heroic victories in that city siege map bro I hope I saved some of them
26:10 yeah this is the reason I stopped bothering with Attila. Even though the game supposedly has more focus on cavalry, their charges are just unsatisfying compared to Rome w
I remember doing a similar strat but i turtled for quite a while in italy and held a small holdout in the province up in northwestern hispania and simply waited until i could start reconquering starting with africa then moving up into hispania, all this before attila came of age and on legendary difficulty. Also i always found the pike mercenaries to be a good investment simply because pikes are OP in settlement battles.
The biggest mistake you can make in Attila is to convert back to paganism. It sounds very tempting - you start with lvl 5 building tech and if you research Christianity you lose it. However Christian buildings provide very important bonuses and consume gold. Pagan buildings provide similar bonuses and consume food. With the fertility mechanic this is a no-brainer.
Well, the morale penalty when facing atilla was my concern. On Legendary I'd be fighting him with an army that essentially has the same morale as an army that lost its general, if you are Christian
Heroes of Might and Magic, any of the 7 games, would be amazing to watch you play. It's also turn based strategy, but it has turn based tactics as well.
Perfect way to get my mandatory Roman Empire thoughts in.
Bubbleszest where are the videos???
@@skille3805nah let bro be, imagine not being able to comment without people asking when the next upload is...
Same man
I've been getting the Roman Empire thoughts twice a day now. I feel the imperialism growing inside lol
WRE tends to be more of an IRL morale issue rather than strictly a challenge issue: *surviving* isn't that hard, having the will to play that long is.
This. It's kind of ironic that they're actually easier in the end than the East.
Please make a part 2. Leaving on the same turn that the end game disaster begins is such a tease. I want to see you frustratingly fight off endless tier 3 hunnic armies
I'd rather pay them to go away, tbh
@@Bitt3rSteel A true Roman 🫡
@@Bitt3rSteelBribe them with half the empire.
why pay them when you can have the pope ask them to please just go away... oh right you got rid of him.
@@LordDarkforactually, it wasn't the Pope that made the Huns go away, but it was the news of new Roman armies coming from Dalmatia. The Huns were exhausted and we're about to be encircled in the peninsula, so Attila decided to leave the peninsula
Holding Octodorum (minor settlement on the north west of Mediolanum) and Aqua Sextia (Major province on the south west of Octodorum) is a good idea. You need Iron for some of your army techs and the Eastern Roman tends to lose theirs and Aqua Sextia has the grape resource so you can keep it taxed and fed and use both of them to gather growth points for when you do your inevitable reexpansion for their respective provinces. Remember the fewer settlements you hold per province the quicker they gather growth. CA logic there. :P
PS: The Warhammer strategy where you can bait barbarian stacks by sitting in high success chance ambush spots can work, since they get a campaign map movement bonus. You sit outside your settlements in a forest and reinforce range, they rush in for an easy settlement sack and you can attack them on your turn when they get close.
Ambush works great in this game, you can pull off some great baits.
is that growth thing true? damn i got over 1000 hours played and ive beaten WRE and ERE on legendary and i didnt know that. Everytime i took a razed province id take all 3 settlements in 1 turn. fuckin CA man
@@solidusraiden2502 Growth just like food and sanitation in Attila, counts for the whole province. (In base Rome 2 food is global and sanitation is also not a thing).
@@masterexploder9668 If you dont believe me give it a try. For some reason either cause it counts up the growth points per settlement in a province and then averages them maybe. But take any non horde faction, take 1 region in a province, do a seperate save play for 10 turns and count the growth. Then load that previous save and take all 3 provinces and recount the growth. When you only have 1 of the provinces for some reason it is faster.
@@masterexploder9668 After almost 1000 hours - i never used ambush in Attila :D not sure how it works when you can see the armies all the time
Bitersteel playing Total War: Attila is such a bliss.
Attila have its charms
I've always loved just how bleak and foreboding and dour Attila's atmosphere feels, particularly when playing as Rome. Like you can really tell the way the world was for hundreds of years was burning down rapidly and violently and there was no way of stopping it.
only thing I hate on Attila is lighting - you literally cant see shit in half of battles. Thats why i´ll never play legendary bcs i want use saves for instances i cant get battlle where its visiblewhats actually going on :D
@@krystofcisar469yep, by the way that's a dark ages and barbarians likely attacking you at night or when in the middle of mist
Since you had no disaster saves, you'd to go for the in-game one. Should be fun!
As Legend said in his guide "you got to always be the biggest prick on the fkn block in this game!"
As a Roman Empire fan, I see this as an absolute win!
Average roman empire fan vs average han empire enjoyer
I once did a run as the WRE without giving up a single province... it was gruesome.
Order no. 277
Bruh that sounds very taxing. Fighting every single battle. Kudos
Not one step back
It was enjoyable except for the millions of settlement defense battles.
On legendary? 😲
Ah yes, the ultimate disaster save experience. Really glad to see you on TW: Attila Bitter!
You can hold Italy, the islands and spain easily.
depends , if The pictish and Scotish declare on you and the suebi you can't hold the Isles and Iberia without strugle
@@JohannStadlmann-x7f the islands I was referring to was the med islands.
Never let go of Spain, its the piggyback of the WRE
@@JohannStadlmann-x7flol he didn’t mean British isles
Also north Africa (mostly Carthago) region is a bread basket. If you're gonna go to pagan ways and use pagan buildings you're gonna need that region to keep food supplies up.
I managed to hold on to most of western Rome in my playthroughs. It just required excellent battle micromanagement, and fighting every battle to slow the enemy down.
Bro you definitely are entertaining enough of a presenter to branch out in to any grand strategy game and have your content be excellent and fun to watch
Long awaited video. It's fascinating that we have very similar taste for strategy games. Also, seeing you play such difficult games is really entertaining.
Keep up the good work Bitt3r!
Makes me happy to see more diverse content on your channel. Just good old paradox and total war games are amazing. Love to see more of these.
When I saw you in LegendofTotalWar's stream recently, I never thought you'd dab into Attila, of all places - a welcome surprise
Imperium Romanum disaster save's lookin' different 😂
Shoutout to Legend of Total War!
Im glad you decided to switch it up and play some total war in the mix of HOI4 i think strategy games are just your bread and butter in general.
I did the same strategy BUT: I held and built up in Africa, instead of Italy. More building slots and way more defendable since your south and east, and west are safe
скукатище, а что читы на деньги не включил, так ведь проще? Мой тебе совет, попробуй не покидать регионы и не сносить здания, а отдать Рим на растерзание варварам, и при этом удержаться в Африке. Конечно же ты не способен вывести такую игры, потому что слабак и выбираешь легкий путь. Можешь еще подрубить читы так еще проще будет.
I just finished the WRE campaign! I used the same strategy but I retreated to Spain and I kept Mauretania, everything else burns. The first 50 turns were crazy as endless armies show up on the Northern border, but I managed to hold on and built up a decent economy in Southern Spain and Mauritania, and later went on to restore the Empire :D Most fun campaign I had, it was intense of course. I feel that Italy, being at the center of the map, is more vulnerable than Spain. Even when I played Barbarian tribes, I tended to migrate to Spain and build up my Kingdom there. Also I've never seen Huns venture that far west into Spain.
скукатище, а что читы на деньги не включил, так ведь проще? Мой тебе совет, попробуй не покидать регионы и не сносить здания, а отдать Рим на растерзание варварам, и при этом удержаться в Африке. Конечно же ты не способен вывести такую игры, потому что слабак и выбираешь легкий путь. Можешь еще подрубить читы так еще проще будет.
Great video mate :) Had a fun time watching!
We needed a person like you for this kind of challenges !
It's always good to see you play total war , i wouldn't be against more uploads related to total war games , thanks for this video bud
The last time I played WRE in Attila was with the Radious mod and some misc mods added aswell. I held the Germanic border from north to south (there's some really good defensive cities like Colonia and Argentoratum) and left an army garrisoning Camulodunum. I also left two or three armies in Northern Africa and defended Aquileia and the Augusta north of the Alps (Vindelicorum?)I liked the mod because in vanilla, the more you research, your public order and sanitation buildings get "forgotten" and in the late game the garrisons get like Tier 3 units.
The trick (and the hustle) is to take advantage of the braindead AI to defeat invasions to cities (many Roman settlemens west and east have unbreakable walls near the town center and cavalry can do a lot of damage in this game) and have your emperor lead an army to fight tribes that migrate through your lands and try to settle. The more battles your monarch win, the more his influence will rise.
I like how the strategy to survive the "fall" of the Roman Empire is to basically do a hard reset back to the Punic Wars, then expand the empire the same way it did the first time xD
WRE starting strat:
Immediately make trade agreements with any faction that is friendly enough to accept. Even if you have to pay a small amount of money, it is worth the price to raise relations and try to prevent more wars. Raise taxes one notch to bring in more money and prevent immigration. If anyone is at war with you, try to get other factions to join your war even if you need to pay them a small amount of money, it is worth the price to have the barbarians distracting each other. Delaying wars and distracting enemies is important in the early game because WRE is in shambles.
Abandon Britannia Inferior on turn 1. Dismantle all the buildings in Britannia Superior except the ones in Londinium and then abandon the minor settlements. It's not worth the risk of a war and you can't realistically defend Britannia while you are defending everything else. The celts will be out for your land and they will be aggressive. Capturing Roman settlements will make them very powerful so don't give them the option, raze it all to the ground except Londinium. Britannia is the only place you realistically should not try to hold under any circumstances. Move your general in Britannia down to the crossing point on the European side, you will need him later.
Now check your relationship with the Garamantians, if they are relatively friendly then you can keep Tripolitania and you should try to improve that relationship because they are the biggest threat in the African front. If they don't like you and you don't think you can reasonably repair the relationship, dismantle and then abandon Tripolitania. If they hate you then abandon it on turn 1. Dismantle all buildings in Mauritania but don't abandon the settlements. Keep 1 legion in Africa, and if you keep Tripolitania then maybe a small navy when you can afford it. Africa has a powerful economy so even though it can be difficult to protect it is worth holding onto.
Remove taxation from Insulae Occidentalis but this is temporary, remember to eventually bring back taxation to keep immigration from getting too high, this move is just to keep the islands happy during the earliest turns without having to abandon them or devote resources to protecting them.
Start building garrison buildings in Dalmatia, Belgica and Pannonia, these are going to be heavy battleground regions and if you abandon them then the next region will become the battleground so you may as well keep them. Also build garrison buildings in Africa, Raetia et Noricum and Maxima Sequanorum but this is a lower priority.
Do not convert to Greco-Roman Paganism, but dismantle all churches aside from the ones in Italia, Insulae Occidentalis and Magna Graecia. For religion, rather than relying on expensive churches we will rely on strategically located governors. Put a governor in Africa, Carthaginensis, Lugdunensis and either Raetia et Noricum or Dalmatia (use a governor you consider expendable for this one, they are in constant danger). When you get a 5th governor you can put it in Italia, but don't worry about it right now. Maybe get some priests to spread religion in Italia and Magna Graecia to prevent paganism from running rampant. For all 4 governors you want to select the Christian Mission edicts. These act like churches for free, and placing them strategically like this lets you bathe almost the entire empire in free Latin Christianity influence which keeps Public Order from going crazy. You can use that church money you are saving to build fishing ports, cattle farms, sheep farms, markets which you can later turn into food markets.
Wait for Britain to rebel in Londinium and for Hispania and/or Africa to rebel in Mauritania, then let them attack your cities there. Make sure to manually play the battle to whittle the rebels down to almost nothing and then lose on purpose. Then quickly sweep in with your legions and puppet them, and immediately establish trade with them. If you razed them then you would have to build them up from scratch. This will ensure you have powerful Roman allies developing these provinces for you without you needing to devote significant resources to protecting them. They might even help with any other rebellions that pop up nearby, freeing your legions for more important fronts. If any of the Celtic nations become a problem, you will be able to defend your toehold in Britannia much more effectively with AI backup which will allow you to recapture Britannia much more easily when you have the resources to devote to it.
Fight all defensive battles that are not clear landslides in your favor manually. This is a grind especially in the beginning, but you can inflict so much more damage than the AI will. Even if you lose one battle, it will make them weaker for a counterattack or for their next attack which you can then win. You want to avoid losing battles though by fighting manually whenever you can. And whenever practical, set out to destroy with overwhelming force any troublesome enemies that keep striking you and then withdrawing to lick their wounds. The Quadrians are the best early game example. Even if you win the first battle, they will retreat and rebuild to attack you again. So whenever you can muster 2 or 3 legions together, go and defeat them entirely and raze their settlement to the ground so they can never be a threat again.
You don't need to keep the Eastern Roman Empire alliance going if it becomes too inconvenient but it is good to keep it going as long as is reasonable, definitely keep relations high and keep the trade going. The ERE is a huge source of trade revenue and they have powerful armies which can be useful for keeping your African and Illyrian provinces safe, but they are also good for preventing Sassanid expansion which helps a lot when you get to the point of having to fight them. It might even be worth it, depending on the context, to sent a legion to help them if they begin struggling, but not at the expense of losing land of your own. Importantly, do not go to war with the Huns under any circumstances. It may be to your benefit when you have a powerful economy to bribe the Huns to join wars against your enemies, like the Sassanids for instance, but it can be expensive. Anything that diverts their gaze from Roman lands. Later game concerns but worth thinking about from the beginning.
Personally, I fill out the entire first branch of military reforms before I even start on economic reforms. I don't do any of the reforms that remove Concrete until I have enough Imperial Libraries built in high food provinces that I can be happy with not having any more. And I especially do not do any of the reforms that remove my sanitary buildings, because Aqueduct Networks and Thermae are very useful. I do the economic reforms that unlock important buildings but I focus more on military reforms so I can get ahead of the enemy factions in terms of advanced units.
SOLVM INVICTA! Great video!
Suggestion, try to survive as West Rome while not abandoning any settlement.
Noted!
"Attila can't burn my enpire down if I burn it down myself"
Lol bribing the Huns to attack the Sassanids is honestly brilliant. "Did we mention they are rich? Yep, anyways good luck boys, give'em hell. So uhhh, send a missive to Constantinople tell them help is on the way and they're welcome. " If only Honorius was this creative.
"the barbarians can't burn my empire, while I burn it myself" ahh I see you're a man of Nero as well 😂
This was great seeing just how mad Atilla can get, specially in comparison to how I remember Barbarian Invasion in years gone by
I beat a WRE campaign on Hard/Hard a few years ago. It was probably the toughest TW campaign I've ever played. I managed to hold on to most of my land in the initial stage until I could sort out my public order, food, and money problems, but that involved me fighting an absolute shitload of manual settlement battles and force marching armies to provide support to them. It would've been impossible without the garrison buildings because they provide JUST enough crack troops to hold the line and outflank the enemy with scout equites when they were bogged down.
Your “being more stacks” mentality makes me chuckle because I always throw more men at my problems in total war
I think total war games aren`t all that fun to watch with challenges like "can I survive this and that", but rather with challenges like "can I achieve this and that". E. g. reconquering the entirety of all roman lands.
When you realize you'll watch anything this guy puts out and love it...
love your vids. Knew nothing about hingarian and croatioan history before I found this channel. 10/10
Oo Bittersteel diversifying thats awesome. I'd love to see some EU4 videos, ive been getting back into that game since the new patch. It's better than ever somehow.
Noted!
27:18 felt that frustration ahahahhahaahahha
You don't need to burn regions any more, you can try and hold the empire with the exception of Britain, legends guide us for an older version of the game.
Holy moly, the combo of the century! 🥳
”The world will burn” and ”atilla” is giving me brain spasms.
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Nice vid. It's really refreshing new content❤
Happy to hear that!
love this video!! thank you for it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love your content 😊😊😊❤❤❤
I LOVE this game man! Thanks for uploading a vid on it! 😃
New bitt3rsteel video. Yay
Exactly the same way I am currently tackling my Eastern Roman empire campaign.. scorched earth tactics and consolidation around the unbreakable Constantinople and it's surrounding areas.. good luck man, Roma Invicta!
wow first time seeing total war from you, and i love it! hope to see more of it ❤❤
7:40 I almost thought it was a massive nuke attack xD
omg I was waiting for that video so much
"Can I last 100 turns as the Western Roman Empire" Proceeds to demolish the whole empire in one turn
Bitt3rsteel playing my favourite total war expansion and faction. Happy bloody days
YOU FINALLY PLAYED TOTAL WAR LETS GOO
Lets go,
More of this
It works, you only need to focus on Rome, and you start rebuilduing yourself. I prefer mostly, the strategy of abandoning everything, and just hold Italy, Spain and the islands of Baleric(i think they are called), Corsica and Sardinia. Both strategys worked good back in the day and they still work.
Impressive. Very nice. Now do Eastern Rome/Byzantium for 100 turns.
36:30 @bit3rsteel Rome II Total War: either Octavian in the civil War or Rome in the “Rise of the Republic” DLC
Loved the video! And love watching Attila Total War gameplay!
Easiest solution for WRE is collapsing everything and keep a fortified area of your choice then reorganize and take back everything later. Problem is the time consuming nature. Hardest solution is keeping everything and try to reorganize the whole empire. Thats a really big headache and makes that TW game on of the best releases, even though it got a lot of hate, I think it is brilliant.
In one of my Western Rome campaigns I kept sending gifts to the Huns, even if it jus very little gold. This made them like me enough, especially when we both had a war with the same factions (mainly germanic tribes).
It was fun to bribe them into joining wars and see all those who opposed them be stomped into the dirt by Attill and his hordes.
Great bid Bitter, hopefully we get more TW videos :)
That's the plan!
@@Bitt3rSteel let's gooo!! 🙏
Imagine one day the top level government comes and packs up all their toys to retreat to more valuable lands.
My actual strategy was manually winning every defensive settlement battle. Like. EVERY battle possible. From all strategy games I always perfect my defense first. And the ones that weren't possible, i still did manual and dealt like 1200 casualties with 300 troops. The tribes and barbarians quickly run out of men to push, while they regain power, I consolidate and push back. On ERE it worked even better, the Ostrogoths completely died out after attacking my level 1 settlement twice and I not only managed to hold all provinces intact, but expand into Sassanid empire ( +mesopotamia) and Italia (+ magna graecia). Of course, corruption is eating me alive (50% of my income just disappears) but the faction trait fixes it
I tried that too.. wasnt really fun after5 turns. :D
@@krystofcisar469 y'know, defensive attrition warfare was never fun, but it works
Excited to see something new!
loved this one, looking forward to see more attila on this channel!
I heard that Bitt3rSteel was suffering again. So I came to watch!
I really enjoyed this, i only really consume total war for strategu tho. Hope to see more
I enjoy watching you play Attila!
I don't know if you've played it, but Civ V's scenario of Fall of Rome on deity would be pretty challenging as well
Ok, thats going to catch some people, like me, off guard.
32:45 thats what the moustache man said......
I typically don't auto resolve a guaranteed loss. You can usually do allot more damage to enemy armies if you fight the losing battles.
True, true. I was just trying to make things move along, since recording already takes a lot of time
Im litterally doing a World conquest a Rome on attila right now this game is my favorite TW so glad to see you playing it
Love seeing some attila. You can keep iberia usually too as western rome 3 armies for iberia 3 for rome is usually good because of towers and roman cav garrison shenanigans
Can't wait to see eastern empire gameplay
I don't know if you know this...you probably do but the best way to beat Atilla and his horses is spear spam as the Romans.
The testudo makes them(Spears) almost impervious to arrow fire and cav can not beat spears cost effectively in melee not even on legendary.
Remember to testudo though.
What you want to do is spam a full stack of spears, pick a corner of the map and then stack spears ontop of eachtoger in say three rows with your generals in the furstest back. What will happen is that Atilla is charge your spears after he runs out of ammo and then just be ground to a paste.
But that won't win it for you. No sir. You will loose entire armies(make sure to withdraw your general to not get him killed) but you will take more then enough with you.
But again remember that won't win you the fights mostly because the Huns also have infantry(infantry that out classes you by miles) they will kill your spear spam...and you just have to take it. Still, remember that this way you will defeat the Huhs even if a lot of your men will die.
Sorry I don't have a better start.
Also P.S, don't build melee infantry other than Spears, they are in not good, especially with the AI cheats on legendary.
Doin a western roman empire run never gets old.
buddy put da trailer park boys meme in there, chad move. also Ive had some disgusting heroic victories in that city siege map bro I hope I saved some of them
26:10 yeah this is the reason I stopped bothering with Attila. Even though the game supposedly has more focus on cavalry, their charges are just unsatisfying compared to Rome w
Love the total war content. Not surprising that you know what your doing lol
"there once was a dream. A dream called rome" Shoutout to Dovahatty
Rome 2 with the divide et impera mod is quite the challenge
I definitely do enjoy watching you play other games as well as HOI4. Great content mate keep it up!
I literally just started playing Atilla again 2 days ago awesome coincidence
Great to see Total War again.
Deffo bring more content.
Would love to see more Total War gameplay! Been on a big TW:Napoleon kick lately, maybe team up with PixelatedApollo?
I played the exact same setup and found it quite easy actually
I'd love to see you play the elder kings mod. Doesn't matter if 1 or 2, both are great.
Why did you abandon the settlements? Couldnt you just get a bit of money from taxes or something from them? Until they get conquered anyway
Nice Turn that you now look at TW - May you look in the Future at TW: Rome II?
I remember doing a similar strat but i turtled for quite a while in italy and held a small holdout in the province up in northwestern hispania and simply waited until i could start reconquering starting with africa then moving up into hispania, all this before attila came of age and on legendary difficulty.
Also i always found the pike mercenaries to be a good investment simply because pikes are OP in settlement battles.
Great video. I need MORE
Yo tw historical are the best. Keep it up man, can you make some legendary companies with challenges as montages ?
Complete the Italy- conquest in napoleon total war
HEAVY INFANTRY!!!!
The biggest mistake you can make in Attila is to convert back to paganism. It sounds very tempting - you start with lvl 5 building tech and if you research Christianity you lose it. However Christian buildings provide very important bonuses and consume gold. Pagan buildings provide similar bonuses and consume food. With the fertility mechanic this is a no-brainer.
Well, the morale penalty when facing atilla was my concern. On Legendary I'd be fighting him with an army that essentially has the same morale as an army that lost its general, if you are Christian
Ah yes, saving Rome by embracing paganism, raising taxes, hating foreigners, and persecuting Christians. A true historical playthrough.
Heroes of Might and Magic, any of the 7 games, would be amazing to watch you play. It's also turn based strategy, but it has turn based tactics as well.
Rome 2 with DEI? It’s simply the best way of playing the game.
Great video!