Maybe I'm a bit late, but about Magas: He was the step-son of Ptolemy I of Egypt, son of his wife Berenice with an earlier husband who died during the Diadochi wars. Berenice is also the mother of Ptolemy II "Philadelphos, " making him and Magas Step-brothers. Magas was given the governorship of cyrene, a greek colony in northern Africa annexed some years prior, by Ptolemy I. After his step-father died and his step-brother became king, he rebelled and declared independence., becoming king of Cyrene.
Amazing overview of the faction. However, the Euzonoi and the Thureos Swordsmen are actually very powerful and cost effective skirmisher-melee units, and there are in fact even talks among the Devs to nerf their missile abilities.
I found their skirmisher abilities to be helpful, but their melee stats wern't taking up a slot in my army when I could use other skirmishers to do the same job with missiles. I'd rather focus on using more AoR units or mercs
Alexander used hoplites at the Flanke of his pike formations, who we're in the center. You don't have to decide between hoplites and pikes you can always use both. Especially since pikes lack the flexibilty hoplites have.
I’ve had it before where the Crown Prince of Cyrene joins my faction as the Seleucids (since my king is his grandfather) after the destruction of his homeland, naturally he led my army into Egypt and Libya when he was old enough.
@@Immersaholic I know right! I was pleasantly surprised when I noticed the faction logo over his picture went away, not sure how often this is supposed to happen but it obviously worked out that he survived being conquered by Egypt
Great stuff man! Have you ever considered doing army rank perk breakdowns for each faction? Playing as Rome and leveling up all my legios is a blast, but there’s no real information on the legacy perks!
Thank you!! I know the ranks have had changes made to them although I haven't heard of any new changes coming. So it may be a perfect time to do a breakdown, thanks for the suggestion!
I have a Seleucid campaign going on that is kicking ass. Got six armies, five of which are full stacks. One full stack navy and one half stack. Then I invaded Egypt and took all of their clay. Currently making 20,000 a turn. Didn't manage to keep most of the eastern vassals, but the one who stayed loyal took literally every recalcitrant former vassal out. Lydia hasn't expanded, but they remain strong. Once and I finish off the Arabs, I think I'll head north and clear out Anatolia and backstab Macedon (not truce breaking though) Edit: oh, literally everyone loves me. The one Arab faction (Nabatean?) Is the only faction to have declared war on me, other than Egypt and the rebels. Everyone else is paying their entire treasury for trade and non-aggression, even the Britons and Germans. Rome and Carthage both paid tribute. I am like a God and all fear my wrath
Nice, you’re still kinda mid game tho with only 6 armies. Even the Parthians are friendly with you? I know they’re usually pretty rude. What about your army composition? Do you continue the alexandrine legacy of having a Macedonian phalanx aka pikemen?
@@tillercaesar-kq4ou yeah, I am at turn 47 still so I don't even have the reforms. The Partians are at war with Atropatkan and Baktria - latter of which is my defensive ally. So far Atropatkan has shielded my satrap so they don't have a border with Partha. The Partians aren't really friendly, but they don't hate me either, iirc. I'd have to load it up to double check and it's late already. I think they're a very light red, so with my overwhelming power and the lack of a border, they're just not prepared to attack. So in my mind, they may not like me, but they're begging for non-aggression which makes them 'friendly' enough. I don't play the east much since, so I don't know off the top of my head how much of a jerk they should be. Obviously historically, they were, but that's another story. My army composition, roughly speaking, is pretty standard. I have 3-5 pikes as my core frontline. Then I have 2-4 levy phalanx (Seleucid hoplites in the armies of the king and heir) to use on the wings. So if I have 5 pike, I use two phalanx; or 3 pike and 4 phalanx. Then I like to have 4 sword/axe infantry, two for each flank. So that brings me to 12, including the general. For ranged I either go 4 archers, or 2 archers and 2 skirmishers, they I prefer t mix archers and skirmishers. Then the rest is cavalry, 4 melee/lancer and 2 skirmisher cavalry. So as you can tell, I tend to be fairly aggressive when it comes to the battles. Pinning the enemy front with pikes and then hemming the sides with swords. The regular phalanx typically hold back to either reinforce or ward off flanking attacks while the cavalry swing round hard to hammer the rear flank to kill ranged units before driving into the rear flank of the enemy spears and swords. I'd drop the archers, tbh, but I'm paranoid about horse archers lol and I'd rather have some veterancy trained before I run into them
When I played I managed to keep the Satraps at +/- 10 relations for about 20 turns or 5 years before relations seemed to stabilize, though Egypt liberated Tyros which seemed to also give a major boost though so there was some luck there. I maintained an army in Charax and Seleukia each which also seemed to keep the Satraps from going all in on war. Once the Satraps chilled out, marching my armies from Mesopotamia to the west to continue growing the Empire. In Hellenic Egypt and Anatolia was finally doable. Having the Satraps is kinda nice with the income they provide though I'm not sure if I'll see future issues with them.
Best of luck with them! If you can keep them friendly through the script once it does trigger I think you'll be just fine. Often there is only 1 faction at most that rebels
number of armies (and i believe number of total units) also affect the satrapy script. Basically, if you have more armies than each satrapy they will (most likely) not rebel.
Quite a coincidence considering I'm about done with my own Seleucid campaign. Maybe since I declared war on Media and have my client states join me is the reason they didn't break off from me, but whatever. Now my go-to strat (round 2 since the Saba review) is pretty much what you suggested: make friends with Armenia and kill off Media, and make sure to do military actions like sacking, looting and raiding against them so that your client states actually like you for it. I went on ahead and used my navy versus Egypt; wasn't easy but really epic with a two front war going on, kinda like the Romans.
Your war on Media probably was an excellent reason to have all of the satrapies unite! Very clever strat because they will love everything you do against their enemy! Good luck with the rest of your campaign!
Pike man are great but they are not that great in offensive battle though, like you have to walk them in a rain of javelins to the enemy and by that time they have lost like 20 percent of their men. Sometimes they don’t even line up right so you have to drag them back and reform them, honestly just use silver shield swords man once the reform is enabled, they are even better swords man than Roman legionnaire
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I would like it if your unit overview took into account the cost effectiveness of a unit. For example, yes greek javelinmen are terrible one-on-one against a peltast, but they are soooooo cheap, that they fill a good role in the campaign. Same for javelin cav, which is an anti-cav specialist, very useful to defend your pike flanks...
Every single unit in the game "can" be useful in certain situations, I definitely take cost effectiveness into account but that is also going to be situational. A cheap javelin unit is helpful if you have no money and only want to use their javelins, which is going to be a rarer basic need then say your mid-tier peltast that can use their javelins to give the same amount of damage in addition to actually being useful in melee. Everything is situation based and comes down under the "it depends" sort of statement.
They have galatian mercs but yeah not a part of the core roster (you can recruit in mp battles though) , the silver shield swords are basically the same as thorax swords but better. So you get them basically but in that form
@@Immersaholic Selucid Nightmare campaign please, all Satraps rebel, Ptolemy attacks you, the desert tribes all with them and Media or Armenia randomly declares war on you. Maybe the Galatians or pergamene join in as well 😅
Potentially.. I don't recall to be honest. I also don't think its a massive deal, I never upgrade buildings that high because the public order trade off is usually too negative for me to want to deal with it.
Keep an eye out for our Saka faction overview coming THIS WEEK!! In the meantime.. What faction do YOU want covered next???
Atropatena please! The most interesting eastern faction, as for me😁
@@Vadim_Ibragimovhmmmm we have already covered them… I’m not sure if they have had many changes since x what do you think?
@@Immersaholic I'm new in dei and didn't follow the changes in different versions😄 if you say your old guide is still suitable, I'll check it out!
@@Immersaholic what about maurya i heard they got some cool new update in new version
I listed them in our poll, they did get some nice changes for sure :) @@dhruvsingh7215
Man your overviews are so good they make me want to abandon my other campaigns 😂
I meannnnnn… the best part of any campaign is the start 😎 or do multiple at once? Hehe.
Thanks mate 🤝
Same happens to me all the time 😅
😂😂😂
Do some Brits or gauls
They do deserve some love! I have already covered the Averni for this patch, who else would you like?@@dietricklamade7417
Maybe I'm a bit late, but about Magas: He was the step-son of Ptolemy I of Egypt, son of his wife Berenice with an earlier husband who died during the Diadochi wars. Berenice is also the mother of Ptolemy II "Philadelphos, " making him and Magas Step-brothers. Magas was given the governorship of cyrene, a greek colony in northern Africa annexed some years prior, by Ptolemy I. After his step-father died and his step-brother became king, he rebelled and declared independence., becoming king of Cyrene.
The Seleucids are bae. My first faction I completed a campaign of DEI with and, going way back, my favorite faction from EB days.
I've still literally never "finished" a campaign :D :D :D
But they are pretty epic! I can see why you and others love them
@@Immersaholic I got really into their history, as well.
That's the best way to go about it! I am yet to really dive into it, just know some basic things@@TheMissing8
Amazing overview of the faction. However, the Euzonoi and the Thureos Swordsmen are actually very powerful and cost effective skirmisher-melee units, and there are in fact even talks among the Devs to nerf their missile abilities.
I found their skirmisher abilities to be helpful, but their melee stats wern't taking up a slot in my army when I could use other skirmishers to do the same job with missiles. I'd rather focus on using more AoR units or mercs
Thank you Immersaholic, always look forward to your to your faction overviews, cant wait for Saka.
Thanks! Saka should be up probably Friday I’d say mate
Love those faction overviews and so frequently now. Keep it up, I love it!
Thanks! Cheeky little surprise for you, there will be another overview this week! :O
@@Immersaholic love to hear that, I'm a Saka for those overviews haha
These puns are disgusting and I LOVE IT :D @@Konrad_IV
Alexander used hoplites at the Flanke of his pike formations, who we're in the center. You don't have to decide between hoplites and pikes you can always use both. Especially since pikes lack the flexibilty hoplites have.
You definitely can use both! I usually refer to the pikes VS hoplites argument in terms of frontline troops
I’ve had it before where the Crown Prince of Cyrene joins my faction as the Seleucids (since my king is his grandfather) after the destruction of his homeland, naturally he led my army into Egypt and Libya when he was old enough.
Mate the roleplay and story potential for that is insane!! I wish we had more character interactions like this!
@@Immersaholic I know right! I was pleasantly surprised when I noticed the faction logo over his picture went away, not sure how often this is supposed to happen but it obviously worked out that he survived being conquered by Egypt
Wow that's epic! Would love to have you share your campaign stories on our discord. We have a section in it for sharing stories!@@cliffbowls
Great stuff man! Have you ever considered doing army rank perk breakdowns for each faction? Playing as Rome and leveling up all my legios is a blast, but there’s no real information on the legacy perks!
Thank you!! I know the ranks have had changes made to them although I haven't heard of any new changes coming. So it may be a perfect time to do a breakdown, thanks for the suggestion!
well, now you just got me to retry my failed Seleucid run!
You should always retry! It can be tough, I hope this overview helps you!
I have a Seleucid campaign going on that is kicking ass. Got six armies, five of which are full stacks. One full stack navy and one half stack. Then I invaded Egypt and took all of their clay. Currently making 20,000 a turn.
Didn't manage to keep most of the eastern vassals, but the one who stayed loyal took literally every recalcitrant former vassal out. Lydia hasn't expanded, but they remain strong. Once and I finish off the Arabs, I think I'll head north and clear out Anatolia and backstab Macedon (not truce breaking though)
Edit: oh, literally everyone loves me. The one Arab faction (Nabatean?) Is the only faction to have declared war on me, other than Egypt and the rebels. Everyone else is paying their entire treasury for trade and non-aggression, even the Britons and Germans. Rome and Carthage both paid tribute. I am like a God and all fear my wrath
Nice, you’re still kinda mid game tho with only 6 armies. Even the Parthians are friendly with you? I know they’re usually pretty rude.
What about your army composition? Do you continue the alexandrine legacy of having a Macedonian phalanx aka pikemen?
@@tillercaesar-kq4ou yeah, I am at turn 47 still so I don't even have the reforms. The Partians are at war with Atropatkan and Baktria - latter of which is my defensive ally. So far Atropatkan has shielded my satrap so they don't have a border with Partha. The Partians aren't really friendly, but they don't hate me either, iirc. I'd have to load it up to double check and it's late already. I think they're a very light red, so with my overwhelming power and the lack of a border, they're just not prepared to attack. So in my mind, they may not like me, but they're begging for non-aggression which makes them 'friendly' enough. I don't play the east much since, so I don't know off the top of my head how much of a jerk they should be. Obviously historically, they were, but that's another story.
My army composition, roughly speaking, is pretty standard. I have 3-5 pikes as my core frontline. Then I have 2-4 levy phalanx (Seleucid hoplites in the armies of the king and heir) to use on the wings. So if I have 5 pike, I use two phalanx; or 3 pike and 4 phalanx. Then I like to have 4 sword/axe infantry, two for each flank. So that brings me to 12, including the general. For ranged I either go 4 archers, or 2 archers and 2 skirmishers, they I prefer t mix archers and skirmishers. Then the rest is cavalry, 4 melee/lancer and 2 skirmisher cavalry.
So as you can tell, I tend to be fairly aggressive when it comes to the battles. Pinning the enemy front with pikes and then hemming the sides with swords. The regular phalanx typically hold back to either reinforce or ward off flanking attacks while the cavalry swing round hard to hammer the rear flank to kill ranged units before driving into the rear flank of the enemy spears and swords. I'd drop the archers, tbh, but I'm paranoid about horse archers lol and I'd rather have some veterancy trained before I run into them
When I played I managed to keep the Satraps at +/- 10 relations for about 20 turns or 5 years before relations seemed to stabilize, though Egypt liberated Tyros which seemed to also give a major boost though so there was some luck there. I maintained an army in Charax and Seleukia each which also seemed to keep the Satraps from going all in on war.
Once the Satraps chilled out, marching my armies from Mesopotamia to the west to continue growing the Empire. In Hellenic Egypt and Anatolia was finally doable. Having the Satraps is kinda nice with the income they provide though I'm not sure if I'll see future issues with them.
Best of luck with them! If you can keep them friendly through the script once it does trigger I think you'll be just fine. Often there is only 1 faction at most that rebels
number of armies (and i believe number of total units) also affect the satrapy script. Basically, if you have more armies than each satrapy they will (most likely) not rebel.
Quite a coincidence considering I'm about done with my own Seleucid campaign. Maybe since I declared war on Media and have my client states join me is the reason they didn't break off from me, but whatever. Now my go-to strat (round 2 since the Saba review) is pretty much what you suggested: make friends with Armenia and kill off Media, and make sure to do military actions like sacking, looting and raiding against them so that your client states actually like you for it. I went on ahead and used my navy versus Egypt; wasn't easy but really epic with a two front war going on, kinda like the Romans.
Your war on Media probably was an excellent reason to have all of the satrapies unite! Very clever strat because they will love everything you do against their enemy!
Good luck with the rest of your campaign!
Yes my favortite and the best Hellenic faction is now here.
I'm more of a Spartan fanboy myself :P But the Seleucids are badass!
nice overview, thanks for your videos, happy new year :) keep work :) i am new in dei and i am pleased for every help :)
Thank you and happy new year mate!!
never stop this series please, sir. good good stuff. thanks
What happens when we cover all the factions though? :D
@@Immersaholic there will be patches and changes for you to fill us in on 😉
True! That and I have a really fun new series idea that will be similar :) @@LetsSeeYourKungFu
@@Immersaholic awesome. I really enjoy your content bro. Looking forward to it
Thanks so much! I only keep it going because of people like yourself giving your support :) @@LetsSeeYourKungFu
Pike man are great but they are not that great in offensive battle though, like you have to walk them in a rain of javelins to the enemy and by that time they have lost like 20 percent of their men. Sometimes they don’t even line up right so you have to drag them back and reform them, honestly just use silver shield swords man once the reform is enabled, they are even better swords man than Roman legionnaire
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There is just one thing I need
I don't care about the presents underneath the Christmas tree
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Ask and you shall receive!! A new overview is up today my friend 😎
This comment made my year btw ❤️
How about a specific video for the brand new Rise Of The Republic campaign? Maybe on the Etruscan factions?
That would be really awesome! I’ll do that very soon. Thanks mate
@@Immersaholic Great news! I look forward for Tarchuna and Rome!
@Immersaholic Are you using the RTW music mod? Or did you add music in editing. If mod - which version of the mods is best?
I'm using a custom music mod made by a friend of mine. It has some RTW music and other music from a whole bunch of games
@@Immersaholic Don't suppose it could be shared with someone like me? :) Uploaded to mediafire mayhaps? :D
Excellent 👌
Bro i downloaded the 1.3 why theres no more elephants general
I would love to see two hitter quitter epirus 😂
:O I can say 2 hitter quitter!? Oh dear, we are going down a rabbithole now :D
@@Immersaholic of course! 😂
Hammer and Anvil baby, no faction does it better.
Such a deadly combo
hello! i love this kind of videos.. can i ask what gpu and cpu u have? regards
Thank you! I have a brand new PC actually.
AMD Ryzen 7 7700, and a GTX 4060Ti :) 16gb of ddr5 ram too
I would like it if your unit overview took into account the cost effectiveness of a unit. For example, yes greek javelinmen are terrible one-on-one against a peltast, but they are soooooo cheap, that they fill a good role in the campaign. Same for javelin cav, which is an anti-cav specialist, very useful to defend your pike flanks...
Every single unit in the game "can" be useful in certain situations, I definitely take cost effectiveness into account but that is also going to be situational. A cheap javelin unit is helpful if you have no money and only want to use their javelins, which is going to be a rarer basic need then say your mid-tier peltast that can use their javelins to give the same amount of damage in addition to actually being useful in melee.
Everything is situation based and comes down under the "it depends" sort of statement.
Do the seleucids not have thorax swords or any galatian swords units as part of their core roster?
They have galatian mercs but yeah not a part of the core roster (you can recruit in mp battles though) , the silver shield swords are basically the same as thorax swords but better. So you get them basically but in that form
Please review egypt
Enjoy these vids!
I enjoy you joining us!
When r u starting a knee campaign
Soon, I’ve been recording our Caesar campaign and want to finish that first. What faction would you like me to use next ??
@@Immersaholic Selucid Nightmare campaign please, all Satraps rebel, Ptolemy attacks you, the desert tribes all with them and Media or Armenia randomly declares war on you. Maybe the Galatians or pergamene join in as well 😅
Iirc seleucids have 0 level 5 buildings avaliable 😿
Potentially.. I don't recall to be honest. I also don't think its a massive deal, I never upgrade buildings that high because the public order trade off is usually too negative for me to want to deal with it.
Make AI Seleucids weak again with massive satrap defections! 😁
I can see arguments for both for and against this. I personally think all of the ai just need buffs across the board :D
Introduce more factions
Do you mean for me to do more factions? Or do you want more factions in the mod? :?