"I'm going to bomb this plane". Passengers got this text onboard the plane over the ocean. Real ATC
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
28-SEP-2022. An American Airlines Airbus A321neo (A21N), registration N439AN, performing flight AAL297 / AA297 from Los Angeles International Airport, CA (USA) to Honolulu Daniel K. Inouye International Airport, HI (USA) during climb out of Los Angeles, about 100-110 miles west of LAX, declared threat level 3 on board and requested return to the airport of departure. The crew reported that multiple passengers had received an AirDrop with text: “I'm going to bomb this plane”.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Description of situation
00:17 Departure
00:22 American 297 requested return to LAX
00:45 The controller cleared aal297 back to Los Angeles
01:35 The pilot reported that bomb threat on board
02:12 The crew contacted SoCal Approach
04:41 The crew contacted the second Approach unit
06:53 American 297 contacted Tower
07:45 The airplane made a safe landing
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THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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HOW I DO VIDEOS:
1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.
The FAA has categorized disturbances into four levels:
Level 1: Disruptive behavior - suspicious or threatening
Level 2: Physically abusive behavior
Level 3: Life-threatening behavior
Level 4: Attempted or actual breach of the flight deck
I forgot to put this in the video so I'll just pin your message. Thank you.
@@YouCanSeeATC No worries, glad to help out!
Thanks, this is useful for the cases that keep going on of people deciding they don't want to sit down, be polite or at least silent, keep their hands to themselves, or avoid attempting to deplane at altitude.
I was wondering why the controller asked him to justify the threat level. It was pretty clear, unless i missed something
@@MEGIDIOT I figure the controller needs to file a report and wanted to copy the pilot's words verbatim.
ATC: “What’s the reason for your return?”
Pilot: “Several passengers have received a bomb threat for this plane.”
ATC: “And why did you declare a level 3 threat?”
Pilot: “The answer is still, because several passengers received a bomb threat for this plane.”🙄
ATC: Roger.
🤦🏼♀️😅
I was just thinking that
Then they asked a 3rd time...
Do you write screen plays?
@@FulsomeMcGinley Also just bringing the supervisor over so that they can hear it in the pilots own words rather than playing word-telephone with a complex situation.
Exactly! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
We need more severe consequences for people making threats or physical attacks made during flights. Should be an automatic "no fly" designation for all airlines , real jail time, and mandatory work-release to address the costs involved for flight deviation.
What punishment does the airdropper in this incident face?
@@kateorman well there is a $37,000 fine and possibly 2 years federal prison time for assaulting any crew members on a US flight so I’d imagine it is must be heftier than that for a bomb threat.
@@dfor Plus, for this perp, the international I Am An Idiot award.
The person who did this is facing felony charges; the FAA does not take this lightly in a post-9/11 world. I had an inbound flight once that had a drunk passenger try to breech the cockpit (to get the captain to make the FAs give him more alcohol, I'm dead serious) and I had to coordinate airport police at the gate for his arrest. Good times.
@@kateorman I guess something like "I am never goin g to fly again, or have a bus, train or taxi ride"
3:25
You can see how the pilot tried till the very last not to say the B word on an open frequency
He struggled for a full 5 seconds until he gave up
🤣
b word?
@@0q2628 bomb
Why would he try to not say it?
@@ColoringAHouse security reasons
The last 30 seconds of this video pretty well sums up how much a pilot's discretion is trusted under a declared emergency.
The last 30 seconds was because they were overweight... The over processes were followed.
I'm confused. The pilot asked ATC if the airplane would need to be checked and ATC said "up to you." There was a bomb threat against this airplane and they would just let this plane taxi to the gate, business as usual? Normally when there's this kind of threat, they'd send the airplane to a remote parking spot for police to check the plane, wouldn't they?
I was surprised too. They just continued to the gate😐
That wasn't why they asked about the plane being checked. The plane landed overweight. That's why they asked for ARFF to be standing by, Landing overweight can cause the brakes to overheat to the point it sets the tires on fire. The check had NOTHING to do with the bomb threat. Here I thought people viewing this channel understood how aircraft work...
I believe the check they’re referring to is a break overheating check (making sure it’s not on fire) due to the overweight landing. It’s not a safety check for the threat.
I was thinking the same thing but they were just non chalantly referring to having ARFF check the brakes for overheating or potential fire. They were not even referring to checking the aircraft for a bomb. Can't believe they didn't park in an isolated spot and sweep that whole aircraft with dogs.
It was pretty clear the pilot and the controler were thinking different things. I was surprised that they let them go to the gate too.
Oof. Somebody's going to be in a LOT of trouble.
Sounds like another stupid TikTok prank. Hope that person gets many years.
Any idea how they'll figure out who it was?
@@msjdb723 I imagine Apple co-operates with these kind of things and can hand over data on who sent the photo.
@@snowdoggyddog I sure hope so. This is getting so out of control. It's getting freakier out there all the time.
Life in prison would go far to discourage these crazy f***ers.
Take these POS up high and drop them without parachute so they can scream all the way down.
I was once on a plane involved in a bomb scare. We landed at the nearest airport and were taxied to a remote part of the field. They bussed us to the terminal and we had a wait of a few hours while the hold was searched by the bomb squad before the flight was resumed.
It's surprising that this flight went straight to the gate. If there was an explosion, that would surely have increased the risk of casualties?
Probably because they knew it was BS
Any follow-up on how this was handled? I expect that they didn't let anyone off that plane since the sender would be on that plane. Airdropping requires you to be close to whoever you are sending messages to.
Don't play stupid. Why did you send that text? You were never intending to go through with it, were you? Wow, don't mess with other people's lives man. You got issues, do us all a favor and just pop yourself off.
I was wondering the same thing.
They took the involved family off the plane. Then the rest of the passengers. American Airlines had to find hotels for everyone and rebook them on a flight for the next day. It was a nightmare of a way to begin a vacation. I would like to know the outcome of the person who started the threat. I would assume they will never fly again and that their parents will be paying a very hefty fine. Yes, I was on that flight.
@@catherinebowman3097 The involved family? Any details on them? Was it their turdbird son playing a prank or something?
@@catherinebowman3097 Do you know how they were able to find the person who did it? IIRC airdrops can be anonymous so it would be pretty difficult to triangulate who actually sent it.
Calm and collected pilot, good job
OMG, people are crazy! We were flying this day - scary to know this was happening!
“ITs JUSt a pRaNk BrOoooooO.” The idiot who sent a bomb threat on a plane cried as the SWAT team pulled him in to a police car.
Yeah, you had a firsthand account I'm guessing.
@@leggomyeigonosensei fortunately not, I’ve not flown in years 🥲
Seem to be more and more psychologically messed up people every day. It's getting weirder and weirder out there.
It's getting a real problem.
I’ve worked from home for 5 years and someone the other day asked me if I get sick of it. This is a week after I was molested by a drunk woman on a plane coming home from a work conference.
I said absolutely not - the weirdos of the world don’t bother me at my house.
Those lockdown incompatible people are absolutely losing mind and intelligence at the same time, without doubt it's happening
About everyone has psychological issues these days, but it's a matter of how you can cope with it.
@@mikederucki what is your job working from home?
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Happened to me on a flight from ATL
to SFO in 1985. Our L1011 was still on the ground and it caused a 3 hour delay. Interesting experience.
what? passengers onboard got air drop text messages on their phones in 1985? :P :P
@@onlineamiga 😂😂
@@onlineamiga I should have been more specific. Somebody called it in on a phone with an actual cord. Lol.
Steve Jobs was on that flight with Mike. 😂
My guy got to fly on a Lockheed TriStar goddamn
I got an airdrop from someone on a plane once and it was a shirtless guy with a 100-pack next to an ear of corn. Much prefer my experience
Too bad you can't post it
Mine was some fat and naked chick. Idk maybe I’d prefer the bomb.
lmao plane airdrops are usually unhinged in a good way
@@joed180 true... This YT comments thing should allow more types of media
Disrupting work. I am based from the I.T field, we even had bomb threats in core places like Datacenters too. Had all employees standing outside for just hours to "check if it's safe", the threats came from a totally unrelated e-mail
Bomb threats are normal in schools too. Especially when someone hasn't studied for an exam that day. Sometimes people just pull the fire alarm.
A common deterrent is to put a rule that any exam/quiz/hw/deadline will still continue on the same day as soon as threat is clear.
It would be cool if there was a clock somewhere to show how long returning / flying back took but otherwise awesome work :)
Okay, thank you.
Same stupid move just occurred on an American flight from DFW to ABQ this past weekend. Airdropped the same messages.
Thank you. What flight number was that?
@@YouCanSeeATC AAL928 / AA928 Sunday, Oct 2nd, I believe.
@@YouCanSeeATC edit to my reply below, meant to say Sunday the 2nd of October.
Has there been follow-up to any of these? Are passengers getting identified and charged? Huge psychological concern and financial burden to put on crew and pax. Also, so we know what the pax on board are told when the flight turns around in this type of situation?
@@amb865 My friend was on AA 928. In that case at least, the passenger was identified during the flight and was removed at gunpoint when the plane landed and taken into custody.
Vectored all over the sky , questioning the return , asked the same level 3 question multiple times. Not the best job by ATC this go time…
I think a possible reason for all that was to make sure it was actually a pilot flying and not someone who hijacked the plane.
@@vrdog9660 the pilot didn't declare mayday
@@vrdog9660 A bomb threat is not an emergency (yet). There are countless hoaxes that circulated in planes many times but proved to not be real. If you were in a hurry for an international meeting, will you be happy to be delayed just for a little prank on someone else in a different plane? BUT, if the bomb is proved to be real, then the pilot would declare mayday.
I believe ATC will give random vectors to make sure it's actually the pilot flying.
This is why everyone must disable airdrop from their devices.
In college i’ve been air carpet nuking people’s apple devices with the photo of a potato
🤣🤣 That sounds fun
I would get an iPhone just to prank random people with memes
What a sassy “roger” at 3:34 😂
Noob question, why would ATC redirect the aircraft over LA when there's a bomb threat? Couldn't they have brought them in runway 6R/L or 7R/L?
pure speculation on my part: if you’ve got a tailwind landing and overweight, stopping distance might be a factor. Also possible it’s faster to get them on the ground using present runway configuration rather than time needed to coordinate with rest of area ATC system and other aircraft by switching runways around.
It can take ATC half an hour or more to reconfigure a busy airspace to use different runways. It needs to be coordinated with nearby airports and they need to start flying other planes on different departures and arrivals.
If AA297 was a mayday they'd let it do whatever it needed and deal with the ensuing airspace chaos (planes circling, diverting to other airports, and so on). This was only a threat (most of which are hoaxes like this), nothing confirmed or actual (like a flight control issue, single operational engine, etc).
@@MarkRose1337 I think that what he meant was that why make a plane that’s possibly blowing up, fly over well populated area, when he could’ve given him 7R or L for example, which would require them to fly over water instead.
Unless there was a crazy tailwind there shouldn’t had been any problems.
@@diegoramirez8674 not sure if you read the full comment, but like Mark said, this would have caused the entire airspace to be reconfigured based off 1 aircraft. I would agree coming in over the water on paper, would seem logical, but when you factor in a tailwind with an overweight aircraft, and the mass upset of airport operations, it simply wasn't a logical idea. However, had the pilot requested, or deemed it necessary, it certainly would have happened, but it wasn't at landing to the west was the best possible solution.
If an aircraft is landing overweight, you want to use the longest available runway. The bomb may or may not exist, and even if it detonates, a plane at low altitude is unpressurized and is unlikely to sustain catastrophic structural damage.
Surprised they went right to a gate. I thought with any security issue like that they’d go to a remote pad far away from the terminal.
Imagine if this happen in your plane. That’s why my parents won’t go on flights anymore.
Would be great to hear all other frequenies in the area on another video to see if planes got delayed or diverted because of this.
Why, is that what you were trying to do? Hey man, you got issues, just take yourself out. Don't mess with other people's lives. An airdrop text? Seriously? Wow. You need help, dude.
Seeing how ATC reacts and coordinates through these events keeping the rest of the system rolling is so cool to see.
@@leggomyeigonosensei Why do you think he is the Person who did this? He only asked a question lol
@@leggomyeigonosensei you didn't get the point of the comment
@@leggomyeigonosensei
LOL
What happened to the perpetrator?
I've always been confused about the verification of flight deck secure. Couldn't a perp just learn how to talk to an ATC and say the same thing? There's no pilot ID verification or authentication code or anything being exchanged.
Are we sure he didn’t mean he was going to “blow up the bathroom” like the dude at Walmart?
I think u mean home depot. LOL
@@Wheeloffortunefan999 ... and they say we don’t need fact checkers 😁
On some American flights there has been on phones and other some Burping and vomiting sounds. The crew members is staying near their phones
It's interesting how on one hand this is serious enough threat that they decide to land overweight, buy not serious enough to avoid flying over the city. If the bomb was real and gone off on final, that would be one of the biggest accidents in aviation history
Narrowbody aircraft without fuel dumping capabilities including the A321neo in this video are certified to land overweight safely. They just have to do the performance calculations to ensure it's within margins and afterwards perform an overweight landing inspection to verify the absence of structural damage. Especially with a long runway like LAX, landing overweight is no problem :)
The difference between MTOW and MLW is relatively small in single aisle Airbus so subtract the fuel burn-off from the initial climb out and the return and it would mean it wasn't massively overweight. Not really an issue for it. Especially landing on a long runwaylike LAX.
the fact this was probably a 10 year old thinking they were funny
Hope so, still a stupid thing to do but at least its more understandable then an adult doing it. Regardless of the age a child should know better then this
Say reason level 3 threat level was declared?? How about a fully fueled plane, 200+ passengers, over a major metropolitan are and airport??
The people who craft these bomb threats should be imprisoned for life.
Those people are potential danger. I can only imagine how many situation are happening around the world that we're not aware.
That's not what they asked.. They aren't looking for if the pilot is stupid lmao, they want to know what the issue is so they can plan accordingly
is "CLIFY" some kind of locator visible on the aircraft systems? is the tower able to send data over the air for example coordinates or anything else?
CLIFY is a waypoint on the RYDRR2 arrival. It would already be programmed in to the FMS once the pilots decided to return to LAX and were assigned that particular arrival. They likely told them to go direct to CLIFY to simplify the approach and cut a few track miles off to get them down faster. They also told them to maintain 250 knots instead of the published 210 at that point on the arrival likely for the same reason.
@@justadudeffsthanks for the explanation 🙂
CLIFY is like a waypoint among a certain route.
CLIFY and all the other all-caps weird names are navigational waypoints.
Are you sane? It’s :wq not :qw you need some help
Why not a direct approach instead of flying over LA?
I’ve been on 297… what a coincidence
without having finished the video yet, I'm assuming it was some kid/teen who was dumb enough to think it would be funny and that he would remain antonymous, and didn't think twice. If that's true, I wish we could teach kids, and teenagers like me, to have more common sense. If it wasn't a joke, good thing the bomb failed.
Edit: well I guess I'll never know, but I have a pretty good idea. It probably was a joke, but who knows if it was some kid or some really stupid adult.
Kids should have enough common sense to not do something like this. I mean do they still tell the don't cry wolf story? My guess is this kid is spoiled and the parents never punish him for his actions, but he will be now
According to another commenter who said she was on the flight, you were right it was a kid because a whole family has been escorted out by the police
@@Teh_Random_Canadian unfortunately the internet has offered an alternative. If you are anonymous consequences don't matter. That and kids falling down rabbit holes of "edgy" humor not realizing its shaping their sense of morality.
So they bothered to do all that, coming back and landing heavy,
but didn't bother to search the plane?
Didn't divert it away from heavily populated areas?
Didn't take it to a less busy runway?
Is it a coincidence that I got an ad for TSA while watching this video?
I've been paying for YT Premium for the last 5 years or so, so I haven't seen an ad in years. But I'm curious, how often do ads come up in a video of this type (ATC, and relatively short). Thanks.
Yea… that can be traced… and yea… they are going to big boy prison.
Why would ATC drag a bomb threat aircraft over LA? In this situation I think you make an opposite direction landing and get them on the ground asap.
Disappointing judgment here, you possibly have a bomb on board given a text received by Air Drop. It’s assessed correctly best to return to land. HOWEVER tower allows the plane to go back to a gate near airport AND other planes and passengers.
Did we watch the same video? They had the aircraft park on taxiway hotel to be assessed and allow police to board, which is between the two runways and far from the terminals or other aircraft. Before you make an ignorant comment watch the entire video.
@@vrdog9660 Read my reply above, same goes for you.
@@vrdog9660 Yes, but you guys are claiming that they DID taxi to the gate when in fact they did not.
They taxied to the gate. I was on the flight.
@@catherinebowman3097 would love to hear a detailed breakdown from your point of view.
Did everyone on the plane know what was going on and why you diverted?
Did swat or the bomb sqaud sweep the plane?
How long were you back on the ground before disembarking?
And then the plane blew up !? The mad bomber escaped out the emergency exit door and ran to has freedom across the runway and almost made it but got hit by a landing 747 ?! What happened ?
Someone knows what happened to the person who made the airdrop, if something happened to them
Nothing good, I hope. 2 years ago wife was returning to Europe from SFO... So being a flying enthusiast, I was watching closely on flightradar24. So I see the plane accelerating, then rejected takeoff... WTF...? She later told me (when she got online) that some VIP missed the flight and they had to go back to pick him/her (or at least that was the announcement).
He was fined $50 by the SEC.
According to a commenter, a family was escorted out by the police. Nothing else is known but by seeing this we can tell it was most likely a kid
That's a way to make the airline waste money and time.
The person who was responsible for this was actually a scholar at oxford and he got kicked out because of this
Really 💀 another person in the comments says she was on the flight and a family was escorted out, making it likely that it was a minor
Source?
@@zephyfoxy trust me bro
A Possible bomb on board, and they are flying over a populated area?
Googled trying to find out more info about this. Apparently, this has been happening more than once. Same thing happened on a flight out of Albuquerque Oct 3, and in Charlotte in August of this year. Is some stupid tik tok video causing idiots to do this?
Is it a new "get a felony and ruin your life" type of challenge?
There should be a more secure means to transmit this kind of threat.
They can sometimes send ACARS text messages but it's a pain to do and increases the pilots' workload during a critical phase of flight. But yeah, there really should be an encrypted frequency or something to communicate security-critical information with ATC.
@@noahwilliams8918 voice to text?
Unfortunately, if whoever it was *actually* bombed that plane, it wouldnt matter if the flight deck was secure......
That would be the upmost priority until you’re parked
Not entirely true. A plane can suffer catastrophic damage and still manage to fly. Unless they bombed a critical part it would most likely just do superficial damage to the plane and kill the people near the blast. This also depends on how big the explosion is.
That American 297 pilot sounds like Bill Hader.
Like what is going on with these bomb threats 🤦🏽♂️
There was one on ups214 last week too I believe
Over the past 2 years it seems there's been a decline in people acting civilized
@@DaveLee83 from what I've heard the other day an Iranian passenger jet had one over India, too
Good grief.. 6 hours non-stop on a narrow body plane?
This was all planned to get out of landing at Laguardia.
Someone who would bomb a plane would not "airdrop" it........ they would just bomb the plane.
well that's not terrifying at all
I get that if there WAS a bomb this would be extremely threatening, but what was likely a kid making a dumb threat shouldn't be a reason to land? anyone could say there's a bomb, you need no proof to claim there's a bomb?
this would be my response lol..... btw.. what's an airdrop ?
american 297 say why lvl3 was declared....
Bomb threat...
American 297 and what is the nature of the level 3 ......
ITS A BLOODY BOMB THREAT YOU JUST ASKED ME THAT!
Airdrop is a way to share photos or files with people who have a apple device. Idk how to explain it’s a fast way to share basically
@@discoball2982 that explains it... i dont have an apple device so didnt know about it :D
@@WX4CB If you have an Android it's called Quick Share or Nearby Share. It's set by default to only accept from known contacts, so you can't get images from random strangers like that.
Punishment for bomb threats on planes: Automatic no-fly list, automatic no-passport for life, automatically charged with counts of attempted murder in the first degree, one for every single person on the plane and second degree murder for the number of people residing in the population center (s) that the aircraft flies over. Automatic full confiscation of any and all personal possessions and assets, automatic trial at the federal level with the death penalty being strongly considered. On conviction, the offender loses their American citizenship and in engaging in their behavior they agree that the attempted crime committed is a heinous act which violates the Geneva Convention and it no longer applies to them. They are then sent off to Guantanamo Bay to never be seen from again and then have their body disposed of in a mass grave
you are in flight:
*If a threat is received against your aircraft while in flight, carry out a search checking those places which are often overlooked during security checks on the ground, but where an article might easily be concealed - toilets, galleys, jump seats, stowage areas, closets etc. Try and do it discreetly to avoid unnecessary worry for pax.
*If an article is found, do not move it or touch it. Move pax away from the immediate area, and remove any flammable items and have fire extinguishers ready in case. A PA asking for anyone onboard with ‘BD or EOD experience’ might help - these are terms which experts will recognize without saying “Hey, passengers, is there a bomb expert onboard?”
"Not terrifying your passengers is probably a good call, but ensuring they are following your crew’s orders, and that they are prepared for the situation on the ground, is also necessary. This means providing them with clear information, but without dramatizing the situation."
“Ladies and Gentlemen, we have received a message that a threat has been made against one of our aircraft/an aircraft in this airspace. These threats do happen, however, until we can establish how credible it is, we will take all possible precautions and therefore intend to land at… in…”
Keep calm & Fly safe 🙏
Why do people say "fly safe" to passengers? Does that just mean "keep your seat belt fastened"? How the hell else am I going to "fly safe"? Would you tell someone riding in a bus to "drive safe"?
@@jacksprat9209 oh, you are more than correct. Before covid people were insane. During and after covid, people went full blown retarded. And yes, have a nice day and you also stay safe!
Keep your seatbelt fastened, be aware of your surroundings, and always listen to your FA.
It’s to express wishes that you hope their flight will be safe.
Would you rather "I hope your plane doesn't go down in a spectacular fireball killing everyone on impact" ... I'd prefer "fly safe" personally
@@Teh_Random_Canadian I'd honestly rather hear the first reply rather than some false notion that I have some illusion of control over whether said plane goes down in said fireball. So next time you're riding on a bus, I hope you "drive safe". Or next time you're on a cruise, I hope you "navigate properly". Or next time you're riding on a train, I hope you "don't miss your signals".
Not sure that deliberately flying a bomb TO Los Angeles is the correct response.
well this is going to turn into a everyday phenomenon
There is probably some dumbass that tries this on every flight; this was the first time there was anyone on board that had "airdrop from randos" turned on ;)
And who pays for all the lost time and missed connections the passengers suffered? The person sending the text must tracked down and forced to pay each passenger for their losses.
@@jacksprat9209 someone airdropped my tween something when we were on a plane at the gate recently. I told him to reject the drop and he did. Who knows what it was.
He was already arrested it was a kid
Anything to get attention. Some people are such pathetic beings. Quite literally have nothing going for them, it’s actually sad.
I DIDN'T COME HERE TO READ!
So did they catch the guy?
I don't know.
“IT WAS JUST A PRANK”
Don’t make this kind of jokes, we are trained to take them seriously.
I wonder if they found out who it was and if there were consequences.
I know it would have been a light tail wind but why vector a aircraft with a bomb threat all over LA and not a straight in over the ocean. Seems like 9/11 and Lockerbie is far too distant in some peoples minds
Exactly. Seems like keeping a plane in this scenario away from a densely populated metro area should be SOP.
My thoughts also. Why make a right hand turn over some islands then over California north of LA. I would have made the plane make a left hand turn and come straight into the airport, avoiding land as much as possible. The ATC’s should have been fired for acting stupid. Also why do they need to ask for a reason for the threat level, when the pilots told them the reason more than once. Definitely some incompetent ATC’s.
@@paulready8897 it's not that simple. First of all the pilot didn't declare mayday. Second, turning back with a left hand turn to the opposite runway would require a lot of planes to just stop taking off or transitioning through that area
Unfortunately they landed in California so if it was a prank the individual probably didn’t spend more than 3 weeks in prison.
But if it wasn't then it would kill Californians
That doesn't make sense because it's a federal crime
@@sasino in sanctuary cities/states federal crimes may be exempt...or at least that's the idea
Who the hell told you that? I narrowly dodged a felony charge for keying a car once. And that was in a quiet suburb; the cops in big cities like LA or San Francisco don't mess around.
A plane with a bomb threat is cleared to the gate after a superficial exterior inspection? 🤔
I dont know why i thought the solid blue was land
🤦♂️
I was surprised “number of souls” was asked. I was taught that wasn’t relevant and shouldn’t waste valuable time asking. It was always nature if emergency, aircraft type, and pilot’s desired course of action.
Wdym that’s always asked if there’s a threat on a plane. That’s pretty necessary info. They even do that if you’re dive bombing towards the ground basically.
“How many people should ARFF look for in the wreckage?” Is what they’re really asking. And they ask any time an emergency is declared. Same thing for fuel. “How much fuel remaining in minutes?” Means “how long until you have to be on the ground?” And “How much fuel remaining in pounds?” Means “how much should we expect you to burn?”
Its so that the ground handlers know how may people thay have to handle, especially if its heading to a remote stand and they have to put the passengers on buses.
Or if there is some explosion or fire, they would need to know how many people to attempt to rescue from danger and when to evacuate if everyone is out of danger and there is no more need to endanger safety personnel.
American 297 is from LAX to HNL. There wasn't a word mentioned in the media in Hawaii about this incident. How does someone text multiple strangers on a plane?
The video explains it lol. It wasn't text
Why does this map look so fucked up?
To any non-aviation folks out there: Please tell your kids this isn't funny. It cost more than the price of your parents' car to divert this aircraft, not to mention terrifying the passengers, ruining a lot of folks' vacations and wasting thousands of gallons of fuel. All for what was probably a teenager's stupid joke. Tell them to find some other way to entertain themselves. Start a minecraft server on the airplane wifi or something.
I had a Threat Level 3 going on in the bathroom earlier today. There was a lot of sweating, straining and tears but god damn it - I won. I’ll be damned if I find myself in that kind of situation again.
Like I would, I hope you had ARFF standing by just in case! I did have chili last night!!
Chill dude it was just a prank
A little bit of trolling
*in minecraft
Why didnt the pilot squawk 7700 ? Surely this is an emergency situation
Yup, emergency situation.
Because ATC didn't ask for it. It is easier to keep the computer assigned code with the entire data block
NTSB Recommendation from AWE1549-Ability to show discrete code as emergency instead of relying on pilot to change to appropriate squawk code
@@jbreezy101 Do you keep this in your wallet?
I think it's also a 7500. The thing is, the pilot already declared an emergency, the ATC treated it as an emergency, and that's it. I don't know is there any regulation says that squawk 7700 is mandatory to emergency aircraft.
Pilot shouldn't have to repeat reason for the threat; that should be passed to the proper people after the first time
It has to come from the pilot directly as he is talking to different controllers when he changes frequencies. The story gets changed overtime as it gets passed along that’s why it comes from the pilot directly. It’s for accuracy
I know it would have been a light tail wind but why vector a possible aircraft with a bomb all over LA and not a straight in over the ocean. Seems like 9/11 and Lockerbie is far too distant in some peoples minds
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"There's a possible bomb in this plane. Let's fly over the maximum amount of land so the bomber can select between a variety of targets to take us down."
If they are not gonna take him seriously, just keep flying, but don't take half measures 🤦♂
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Sounds like the ATC is stupid. Pilots stated the reason for the threat level on numerous occasions, yet they asked the flight to state the reason for the threat level. The ATC needs to be fired for incompetency.
It’s because they were talking to multiple controllers. Each controller they speak with has to have the story first hand directly from the pilot
The main reason is to analyze potential changes in "pilot" speech, accent etc. which indicates flight deck is no longer secured and aircraft could be used as weapon. Second is for further investigation: all ATC - Pilot or Cockpit sound are recorded, but they potentially could be corrupted. Having 3 is better than one record's about threat.
Same as police: "Two is one, one is none" ;)
Bruh the tradgies always gotta be American Airlines 🤦🏽♂️
I am an old fart, so I don't know how this AirDrop stuff works. But, I heard someone say that the sender has to be near the recipient. That means every passenger on that flight should have their phone records checked. The flight was approximately 100 miles off the coast of California at the time the pilot reported the threat, so obviously the culprit must have been aboard the flight. Unless the person was trying to commit suicide it was probably a sick prank. The other question would be how would the perpetrator get the text numbers to other passengers on the flight unless there was a group traveling together? There seems to be underlying circumstances here that need looking into.
The AirDrop function is Bluetooth based so yes, it would definitely be a person on the same aircraft who sent it. I'm sure it was supposed to be a prank but if they caught the person they'll face felony charges for it.
Basically you can send a image or message to any other iPhone near you, no matter if you have their number or not. It's a good feature but some people do stupid stuff like this with it.
@@iiApyxUA-cam You'd think the default mode would either be off or to only allow your known contacts to send. Not to play the OS game but Android's similar feature is set that way (not that it matters for this since nobody would bother trying that just so they could annoy the only 5 people on the plane with Galaxys like me)
@@joed180 the default is off, I don’t think it always was, but it is now for every new iphone.
The airdrop doesn't require you to know numbers of people. You just have the Bluetooth on and share to other Appl users and they choose to look or reject the share
This is why I don't belong to the Apple cult.
@@ThemePro24 apple is still not the best company. You can always disable these features, but in Iphone as i've heard it's on by default (don't know about android versions of it).
@@ThemePro24 except that nobody uses that and if you tried an android "quick share" in a crowded plane you'd probably get no recipients
Someone really didn't want to go to Hawaii I guess.
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Probably a woke person thought it was funny to do this stuff 😂😂
fox your english in the Important part "may be not accurate" shouldn't it say May not be accurate?