PAN-PAN. Trim issue. American Boeing 737 need to return to Dallas-Fort Worth. Real ATC

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
  • THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
    02-AUG-2023. An American Airlines Boeing 737-800 (B738), registration N952AA, performing flight AAL2597 / AA2597 from Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, TX (USA) to Burbank Bob Hope Airport, CA (USA) after departure requested to stop climb at 8000 feet to work out some problem. Later the crew declared PAN-PAN, reported trim issue and requested return to Dallas. The pilots needed the whole distance of runway 18 right and brakes inspection after landing.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Description of situation
    00:17 Initial climb after take-off
    00:43 PAN-PAN. Trim issue. Pilots requested radar vectors in the area to solve the problem
    05:28 American 2597 is ready for approach. Airplane started the way back to Dallas
    07:07 The airplane was transferred to Approach controller
    08:05 American 2597 contacted Final Approach controller
    10:11 AAL2597 was transferred to Tower frequency
    11:30 Landing. Communications on the ground
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    THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
    THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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    HOW I DO VIDEOS:
    1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
    2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
    3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
    4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
    5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
    6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
    7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 19

  • @tylerevans369
    @tylerevans369 9 місяців тому +26

    This is such a great example of how ATC and pilots should interact. I wanna give special shout out to this pilot for being so calm and collected.

  • @nightrider9060
    @nightrider9060 9 місяців тому +17

    Team work at its best . This should be a training video .

  • @JimWhitaker
    @JimWhitaker 9 місяців тому +1

    That pilot's radio discipline was so much better than some we hear on here.

  • @Ryan-719
    @Ryan-719 9 місяців тому +3

    Nice

  • @mr65136
    @mr65136 9 місяців тому +14

    Controllers seemed to have been getting better at understanding "PAN-PAN" as as an emergency declaration, but I guess the reminder hasn't gotten to DFW yet.
    (FAA 7110.65.10-1-1: An emergency can be either a Distress ["A condition of being threatened by serious and/or imminent danger and of requiring immediate assistance." - MAYDAY] or an Urgency ["A condition of being concerned about safety and of requiring timely but not immediate assistance." - PAN-PAN] condition.)
    Still very good service by the Departure controller.

  • @jh.4770
    @jh.4770 9 місяців тому +4

    Good thing they realized the issue while still near DFW.
    Burbank (BUR) runways are very short and probably can't handle that type of landing. 5,800 ft and 6,600 feet respectively. That's a 737-800 and I've landed at Burbank aboard a 737-800 on runway 8, the 5,600 foot runway. That was fun 😅.

    • @saxmanb777
      @saxmanb777 9 місяців тому +1

      They would have just diverted to LAX then.

  • @among_usfan_oh_lol
    @among_usfan_oh_lol 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice!

  • @BlueSkyUp_EU
    @BlueSkyUp_EU 9 місяців тому +2

    Wow, this is second in a week span. It seems that there's a problem with maintanance personel lately. Ironically, airlines and the industry as a whole seem to be more interested in technology that would allow flying with one pilot. Not sure where this eagerness to cut costs and reduce human resource to the minimum will lead, but I don't have a good feeling about it.

    • @nightrider9060
      @nightrider9060 9 місяців тому +4

      It is being made public more often , nothing to do with cutting costs.

    • @BlueSkyUp_EU
      @BlueSkyUp_EU 9 місяців тому

      @@nightrider9060 So, it is normal that within 7 days a plane from the same airline has trim issues after taking off from the same airport? Idk much about mechanics, but I've heard professionals saying this is not ok.

    • @DaveLee83
      @DaveLee83 9 місяців тому

      These aircraft are getting older, reports of supply issues, it's also peak travel season. So every aircraft possible is probably in service.

    • @BlueSkyUp_EU
      @BlueSkyUp_EU 9 місяців тому

      @@DaveLee83 Those are valid motives for why the issues show up. However, they do not explain why the aircrafts receive green light to takeoff with such issues. People from the industry blame it on companies investing less and less on training for the maintenance teams. A lot of experienced mechanics have retired lately or simply quit the industry due to conditions. New ones do their best, but in lack of proper training they often fail to identify problems and deem aircrafts as "safe to fly" even though they are not.

    • @saxmanb777
      @saxmanb777 9 місяців тому

      You came to this conclusion based on UA-cam videos?? Wow