JAY KNOWS DA WEY are you sure your not confusing racism with ethnocentricty? Racism is power plus prejudice, nowhere in the film does Wakanda exercise systematic racism, they do exercise prejudice but no white people are systematically disenfranchised or socio-economically reduced to empower Wakanda.
Sorry but you still don't understand an ethnostate does not equal racial subjugation, let me repeat ETHNOCENTRISM and RACISM are not the same. You are creating a false equivalence Wakanda's borders are closed to avoid the fact that european colonialism has destroyed much of the world including africa. Wakanda doesn't exercise military might or socio racial dominance that sir would be using racism. You have a small understanding of what racism is and yet you seem to want to claim some one is brain washed. Pls learn your lessons . The power and prejudice i am speaking off is in regards to using resources such as military, economics, politics, education and the like to reduce the advancement of people of a certain race. Show me once scene in the film that did this...i'll wait.
Gotta disagree with comparing T'chala to MLK here. MLK was about nonviolent resistance... T'Chala, and Wakanda as a whole, isn't resisting anything. They just treat the black struggle as someone else's problem. Nakia, on the other hand, could be argued as a stand-in for MLK.
Damn that's pretty clever there :) That reaffirms the fact that MLK was absolutely a product of his time - when black Americans were institutionally discriminated against - while Wakanda is the most technologically advanced society on the planet and has managed to stay completely hidden for decades, which has made them aloof and disinterested in the world at large until they're essentially cornered into acknowledging it.
I was so afraid to see racist or negative comments but I'm so glad its the opposite. It shows how you make such an amazing video with incredible points that most easily agree with you. You captured the feelings and worded how us in the african diaspora feel and think.
Andre Montoya to read comments and make sure, that the only reason people like this trash movie is the consistency of black people in it. You know, this obsessive radical tolerance and political correctness that America promotes is pretty annoying.
@@ScrewY0UguyS spoken like a true colonizer mindsetted white person. are you really not giving a movie it's complete props just because it was based upon people of color? but of course a movie consisting of a almost full black cast can't be as a great ass any other movie. in fact I'd say it's one of their best movies. you have clearly never watched the video to understand it (and possibly you never even watched the movie).... you're just trying to hide your prejudice and it's peeking out. goodnight
Khalia Ward I have nothing against black people in movies, even on main roles. I just don’t understand why critics give such credit to that fact. Let’s be honest, black panther is shit just like any other marvel movie. How can it be nominated to the best film while dark knight isn’t? It won 3 oskars just for being tolerant.
Black Panther is the perfect example of how diversity and inclusive world views are good for everyone! I LOVE that white people are loving this movie, and I want this to open a door for more people from more backgrounds to get into the blockbuster scene! Because we will ALL benefit from a diverse perspective and an interconnected society!
I love this movie so much and I also like that they didn’t get an old superhero and turned him black. They made a new superhero who’s black and also is from Africa and you get to se the culture and everything. I seriously loved the arts and the outfits there so beautiful!!! I wish Wakanda was a real country! I LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!
@@wrestlinganime4life288 true, I wouldn’t have a problem with turning an old superhero black anyways (I don’t have a problem with anything like that) but what’s static shock? Honestly I don’t think there should be a sequel, it won’t be the same without Chadwick may he Rest In Peace.
So thankful for this video. I'd been thinking about doing a breakdown of the political messages of Black Panther as well, but you summarized it in a more concise and intelligent way than I ever could!
Excellent breakdown! Love the symbolism and deeper thematic depth in this film. It really made me think. It's such a thoughtful film. I was so impressed by how it touches on questions of what’s the connection or displacement among peoples of African descent all over the world, and in doing this it puts a spotlight on a very real-world issue.
It's really nice to see people acknowledging that, since internalized racism is also one of the many consequences of the misplacement(not sure if this is the best word 😅) of african people in all of these countries where they were moved to, and learning how amazing our culture already are and how even greater it could be really helps to, little by little, progress towards more self acceptance of our african/black heritage. Oh man, such an awesome movie in so many ways :)
I loved black panther, and I hope that what you said at the end of the video (that it will open the door to more thoughtful concepts in blockbuster movies) will be true. But in my opinion what really made BP different from the other marvel movies is that the director had creative control over his work, I have the feeling that now that the Studio has seen potential in this superhero they'll get their hands on it and "play it safe" by creating another insipid action flick with comedy.
Women mostly choose not to go into STEM fields. Frankly it's pretty sexist to assume work mostly done by men is more worthy then work done mostly by women. And that minority line doesn't really work as Asians tend to be over represented STEM jobs. Don't think they need more empowerment. If you're talking about black people what they need is better schools in places they live not empowerment.
but why dont women go into STEM fields is what OP is talking about? its not because "girls dont like STEM" or whatever. theres nothing inherently unfeminine about STEM fields. its because there is no encouragement there and i think seeing more characters like Shuri is definitely something that can influence young girls into these fields. wanting to be like a certain character in movies and tv shows is typically what sparks the initial interest for certain fields when kids are little.
Ana. Actually girls DON't like stem, a lot of them don't. They are not interested in it, not good in it, get lost in the jargon, or just straight up give up on it. You name it. And while there are a lot of women in the STEM fields, they are equally underrepresented in Oil rig miners, coal miners, bomb defusors, etc. and nobody is talking about that disparity. Also no-one is talking about the under-representation of men in fields like Teachers and nursery. This combined makes me look at arguments like these hollow and going for the cherry-pick instead of actual discussions.
You proved your own point? Women are underrepresented everywhere, not just in STEM. We're just trying to start somewhere, and you criticize it? Men are underrepresented in teaching, but most school administrators are men. Men are underrepresented in nursing because they'd rather all be doctors. Lmao. Women are more represented in jobs that men don't want because they look down on them. Stop blaming women and distracting from the STEM issue with your false victimization of men.
olabomi garuba anything dealing with the topics such as racial tension in history or current issues there's usually or even showing a predominantly black cast, there's always a person who say somthing ignorant. "Why does it have to be an all black cast? Where's the diversity" "His name comes from a hate group organization" (they're not a hate group btw) "I don't understand why Black people loved this so much it's just a movie. "It's too political just be a marvel movie." Even in everyday life I hear ignorant comments, "attending an HBCU is racist. "All lives matter" "slavery evened hundred of years ago get over it"
The key problem to this is this idea that people’s “culture” can be “appropriated” which is just absurd, people should be able to take ideas and traits of different cultures and use it in their lives
olabomi garuba Culture can be appropriated. Cultural appropriation is when someone else has taken something from your culture and or has changed the name and you make it seem like you’ve came up with it, a good example would the boxer braids thing, the actual name for it is cornrows.
So then Frank let me set this conundrum up for you. I am a mixed race Dutch-Nigerian, whose first language was not English, I"'ve lived my entire life in western civilization but the truth is that my people did not invent the culture and i use facets and aspects of the culture like the english language, the internet, the Iphone etc.......am I or am I not appropriating Western culture?
This video is on point. Thank you for the analysis of Africa and shedding light on it's and some of the actual black history. This movie has been so impactful to me as a Congolese American.
olabomi garuba to answer your question, this is the first movie where the isn't a token black person character, about the civil rights movement or slavery, and shows people in Africa in a positive way.
Great video about a great movie, can't add much more than that. OH! And Ryan is officially a must-watch director (Marvel, don't you lose him for BP2), I hope his phenomenal work continues to to catch the public's attention and and inspire for many years to come.
I'd love a Thor Ragnarok essay, it's baffling that most reviews completely missed the commentary on imperialism as the thematic through line. I'll check this one out after watching Black Panther, haven't been able to catch it yet
@Lou Bloom @nikemi Uh...I think I may have missed it too. Can you help me out a bit? I thought Thor Ragnarok was really enjoyable but I didn't realize there was a message too. What was Taika Waititi trying to say?
Johnson Johnson the main plot of the movie is Thor having to deal with Odin's past mistakes. Hela represents Argard's real past that Odin had buried and erased from history coming back to haunt them and reclaim her role. He used Hela to conquer the Nine Realms by slaughtering them, taking whatever they wanted and imposing submission, but when he wanted to change his image he didn't want to reckon with everything he did, so he locked her away and covered everything up... "Odin, proud to have it, but ashamed of how he got it" PS: I recommend you to google "Thor Ragnarok imperialism" or "colonialism", there are some good pieces on the subject that goes way deeper than my summation.
Lou Bloom I agree. Most commentators focus on the comedy and or on the ludicrous claim that a whopping 90% of the dialog was improvised. They totally missed the fact that Asgard was built on the blood and resources of others and got destroyed by both one of the main colonizers (Hela) and the colonized, Sutur. That part was masterfully done.
@ruby scott Well actually... that "ludicrous claim" about the dialogue being mostly improvised was made by the director... So I think it's probably got some truth to it. But yeah, of course there definitely seems to be a critique of imperialism buried in this light-hearted Marvel action/comedy. And considering the fact that Taika Waititi's ethnic background is an indigenous Polynesian people, I think colonialism hits pretty close to home for him.
I can’t explain how happy it is to see a channel like yours!!! Smart, entertaining, NON BIASED in depth. and able to explain racial topics with respect to all. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 it shows how much time and effort was put into your production.
I don't know about that. Most African-American music is simply black people deriving styles from what was once white music and mixing it with their own rhythms. That's how jazz and the blues were created, when African Americans in New Orleans copied white people's marching band music and put their own spin on it. Same thing with tap dancing, which African-Americans derived from Irish step dancing. Even call-and-response style singing was derived from Scottish preachers, as they were just about the only clergy who would minister to black slaves; that's where gospel comes from. As for rock and roll, the original style was black, but the type we know today derives from rockabilly, which is a mix of country music (which is almost entirely white) and what was once a purer form of rock. I guess it doesn't help that most influential rockers since the 1950s were white, and often from Europe, but there you go. Also, most of the instruments normally used by African-American music styles were invented in Europe or the US.
*Kurzgesagt was just talking about how it's better for you to try to help others because the world isn't a zero sum game, if 5 billion people could afford to pay for cancer research that just benefits everyone* I hope there are more complex narratives in store for future Marvel films. I really loved the Afro Futurism & the incorporation of South African song, iit made it feel like they'd been in Cape Town or Jozi
As usual you guys hit it out of the park again! My hope is that this youtube channel which is now my favourite channel stays up forever! Indepth and thought provoking as always but my only comment is not a nitpick but a correction in pronounciation or not depending on where you are from! Tobago is actually pronounced Two-bay-go lol as I said small nitpick. I am from the twin island republic lol. I will continue to support and look forward to your amazing content because no one does Game of thrones Videos like you guys!
I don't understand how this channel doesn't have a Million Subscribers. Your content is thoughtful & sophisticated. & truly transcends the average UA-cam Video.. keep up the amazingly great work!
Like I said before and i will say it again, you ladies do a great job in explaining the overall view of the picture. PS. It would be great if you analyze the NETFLIX picture ""ALTERED CARBON" because it is also a very good picture and it's very deep, the other thing is the "BLACK MIRROR series most of the time that truly needs to be analyzed, AS always I LOVE YOU, ladies because you do it so well, MY WISH FOR YOU IS TO HAVE OVER A MILLION SUBS.
Please do a video on Altered Carbon. While the conflict is not as culturally dynamic like Black Panther, some of it are very personal and deep. It may be a bit cliche in certain scenes, but the series is a must-watch.
Wow! Y'all have clearly put a lot of effort into this and it makes me really happy to witness genuine appreciation of what is, in my opinion, the greatest Marvel movie ever. I really wanted to watch an analysis of all the intricacies in Black Panther to make sure that I haven't missed anything and this video did that really well! Thank you!
One of the more awesome aspects of black panther that i personally really enjoyed was the soundtrack , they gave the emotional scenes so much depth , and the individual character tracks reflected their characters’ personality in a really meaningful way
I love your channel so much! Everytime i see a movie or TV show that makes me think i automatically wonder how you woud analyse it. Thumb up for the great work!
This video deserves so much more views! It's so good! ScreenPrism is my favorite analysis channel, its points of view is so interesting and original! :D Much love from Québec!
I agree with the fact that BP is more about Wakanda than just T'Challa. T'Challa's growth into being the leader he became represents Wakanda finally opening up to the world.
Great video, although there's one thing it seems you really missed about Killmonger. The difference between Tchalla and him aren't just methods. They have different goals as well. TChalla wants to stop the oppression. Killmonger wants to become the oppressor. It's kind of funny you missed that TChalla even explicitly states it during their fight. Also, Killmonger really doesn't show any apparent sexism. He just shows a general lack of respect for everyone. It just so happens that a lot of his victims are women because there are a lot of significant female characters. Actually now that I think about it some more the part with the woman at the museum "lecturing" him really isn't like you characterize it at all. She has no reason to believe that some random American knows more about the stuff she's an expert in than she does. Especially since it's implied that he specifically asked to speak to her and then starts asking her about the display. It'd be racist of her to assume he knows about African stuff just because he's black.
The video wasn't saying she was lecturing him as if he was dumb, it's saying that she was supposed to be an expert on it since she works there but in fact doesn't even know it's true origins. She's just spreading more "white" lies about African history.
@YumLemmingKebabs Actually you're wrong. Racism = one person believing they are better than another person ONLY because of their skin color. What you're refering to is "prejudice". That involves making assumptions based on a certain percieved characteristic about someone.
I swear these analysis are so on point! I remember watching the movie and arguing similar stuff with my friend, and it's so nice to see these issues well argumented and validated in such a also well structured manner. You guys are awesome! Keep up the good work, you are so inspiring 😊
I saw the movie in theater 3 times. Breaks my heart that Chadwick Boseman is gone...he had so much talent and brought so much heart to the icons he played. RIP.
What I’ve noticed: Non black people miss the major messages about AAs and Africans/lack of identity from the Diaspora. Black Americans miss the cultural meanings and African perspective from T’Challa, but are proud of black representation.
My favorite movie of 2018. The first movie ever I've seen multiple times in theaters and I'm so glad you guys covered it. You covered so many of the topics that made it such an impactful movie for me. Thank you.
I'm a ginger and I identify more with Black Panther than any other superhero because of our shared sense of responsibility to fulfill our families dreams and the pressures of being born a leader.
There is so much I want to say and I really hope that I articulate it properly. I've recently become "addicted" to UA-cam and often find myself binge watching videos. I'm a nerd at heart and I really appreciate deep dives into the underlying meaning of things, the way you all often do in your videos. Having said that, as a black woman I (unfortunately) come across a lot of channels here that I love only to come across the one video from a channel that discusses a certain topic pertaining to African-Americans (or political views) that forces me to part ways with the channel. I've watched many of your videos and (honestly) I held off on this one for a while b/c I was afraid it would make me have to run for the hills.... I say all that to say, you ladies did an EXCELLENT job discussing this movie, it's POVs, and being objective about black injustice. And I can't thank you enough for it. You've got a fan for life in me (and I'm on my way to your Patreon!)! Keep up the great work!!!
Fantastic analysis. This movie meant so much to me and I'm not even of African descent. The messages about colonialism really struck close to home as I'm from Latin America. So glad you took the time to go through it and use your platform well :)
Great breakdown ladies. One you guys didn't add was the Pan-African flag colors being represented by T'Challa, Nakia and Okoye at the casino with black, green and red. You hit pretty much everything else though. Bravo. 👏
This is a analysis of the immense depth within BlackPanther. My only issues are those involving Killmongor, everyones favorite villain. In your analysis you juxtapose Kilmongers "by any means necessary" mentality and masogynistic violence with Tchalas peaceful benevolence and respect for women. Then go on to explain Tchalas warning to the mountain clan as message about simply carring for our neighbors because they may effect us. In my oppinion, your analysis fails to point out the pure evil at the core of Kilmongers political beliefs. Kilmongers aims in the film are to violently topple the worlds governments, and install his own people as a ruling class. The methods used to achieve these aims are both coercive and murderous, symbolized by the scaring on his body, each representing an individual kill. Kilmonger is not merely massogynistic towards women, but his primary tool for achieving his goals is violence against those physically weaker than him. He does not simply want to uplift the plight of the African diaspora abroad, but insead seeks to dominate the world creating a hierarchy inwhich he is at the top. Tchalas message to the mountain clan was a dire warning not only because our neighbors have an effect on our own lives, but also warns that an imperialistic supremacist at the head of a powerful state will inevitably set out to conquer the world similar to the imperial Japanese or the many former fascist governments of europe.
Ktamb 2007 This is the biggest problem I have with this video as well. Killmonger basically wants to be a black Hitler, but more hands on. Both he and TChalla explicitly stated his intentions at different points in the film, so it's strange that the video missed out on this.
" Killmonger basically wants to be a black Hitler" This is exactly how I explained his character to my brothers, and is really disturbing given that Killmonger seems to be the character most adored by the people im in contact with. The entire concept of Wakanda pre-Tchala, is also an incredibly troubling concept once you strip it of its African aesthetic. Wakanda is a xenophobic, racially homogenous, chauvinistic, and highly traditional ethno-state that gives credence to some of the ideas pushed by white-nationalist. I am in no way saying this is a bad movie (It is by far Marvels greatest work), but the conversation to be had about the film so far has too often merely skimmed the surface or outright ignored the darker themes to explored. FYI: As a first-gen American from Ambazonia, I found the costumes to be spectacular representations of actual African cultures. My favorite tribe was the Mountain clan lead by Mbaku, whom I found to be most like my own people. this is my way of saying I love this film.
Love this video! Explained so much history that I didn't think to connect to the movie before. The more I learn about Black Panther, the more I fall in love with it.
I did not understand Killmonger’s ideology as having a divide between Africans and African Americans. His respect for the ancestors did not mean that he saw slaves and their descendants as any different from their families they were taken from in the places they came from nor the continent of Africa. In fact, he wanted to embrace and help progress all members of the diaspora, including those on the African continent and all over the world. The point about him seeing himself and African Americans as any different from Africans on the continent misses a major, important layer of the film’s plot.
While I agree with most of the points in this video, I disagree with the idea of T'Chaka being a wholly positive father figure. Yes, he was a good father that T'Challa looked up to, but Erik's tragic past falls entirely on T'Chaka's shoulders: he abandoned Erik to learn about black oppression the hard way, and made him suffer for the sins of his own father the Crown Prince, who was really trying to uplift the African-American community in his own (flawed) way. T'Challa's story in this movie is, like you inferred in this video, about moving away from his father's isolationist policies and the mistakes that resulted from them, contrasting Erik simply continuing his father's revolution without really learning why it failed.
Loved the video! If you all make anothe Black Panther video could you explore the framing of the black women in the film and how woman of color are typically seen (or lack there of) in hollywood blockbusters.
EXCELLENT VIDEO! While it may have taken the MCU too long to really dig into inclusivity, Stan Lee was ahead of his time in his commitment to civil rights in the comics... This movie shows that and you guys did an Excellent job illuminating that!
I loved the movie but am new to Marvel. All but Wonder Woman I found OK but lacking ( I loved Wonder Woman also). I have watched a number of videos much like this one trying to increase my understanding and appreciation of Black Panther. Congratulation on a wonderful job. I did not feel overwhelmed by "nerdiness" or talk down. I am off to my local movie house to see this movie again. Wakonda Forever.
Watching your videos always builds upon my overall enjoyment, adds layers of understanding and additional appreciation for movies i watch! Kudos to you & keep up good work!
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JAY KNOWS DA WEY are you sure your not confusing racism with ethnocentricty? Racism is power plus prejudice, nowhere in the film does Wakanda exercise systematic racism, they do exercise prejudice but no white people are systematically disenfranchised or socio-economically reduced to empower Wakanda.
please do gone with the wind
Yeah youre pretty lost, i explained racism and you still dont understand. Where are you from?
Sorry but you still don't understand an ethnostate does not equal racial subjugation, let me repeat ETHNOCENTRISM and RACISM are not the same. You are creating a false equivalence Wakanda's borders are closed to avoid the fact that european colonialism has destroyed much of the world including africa. Wakanda doesn't exercise military might or socio racial dominance that sir would be using racism. You have a small understanding of what racism is and yet you seem to want to claim some one is brain washed. Pls learn your lessons . The power and prejudice i am speaking off is in regards to using resources such as military, economics, politics, education and the like to reduce the advancement of people of a certain race. Show me once scene in the film that did this...i'll wait.
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I'm an aspiring (Nigerian) screenwriter and I love your analysis. Thank you so much for this.
ThePolyMath we both know why you had to include the “Nigerian” in that sentence....🤦♂️
go for it! can't wait to see your work on the big screen :)
I also have West African origin's
Ayy I'm Nigerian too
ThePolyMath
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Gotta disagree with comparing T'chala to MLK here. MLK was about nonviolent resistance... T'Chala, and Wakanda as a whole, isn't resisting anything. They just treat the black struggle as someone else's problem. Nakia, on the other hand, could be argued as a stand-in for MLK.
Oh shit, that's a super good point!
dang good observation!
Thank you.
Oh gosh I was about to say hes not 100% MLK but yea you make more sense.
Damn that's pretty clever there :)
That reaffirms the fact that MLK was absolutely a product of his time - when black Americans were institutionally discriminated against - while Wakanda is the most technologically advanced society on the planet and has managed to stay completely hidden for decades, which has made them aloof and disinterested in the world at large until they're essentially cornered into acknowledging it.
I was so afraid to see racist or negative comments but I'm so glad its the opposite. It shows how you make such an amazing video with incredible points that most easily agree with you. You captured the feelings and worded how us in the african diaspora feel and think.
Lambeflores what do you mean by racist comments? If i think this movie is full of shit - would it be a racist comment?
@@ScrewY0UguyS if you don't like this movie, then why are you here in the first place?
Andre Montoya to read comments and make sure, that the only reason people like this trash movie is the consistency of black people in it. You know, this obsessive radical tolerance and political correctness that America promotes is pretty annoying.
@@ScrewY0UguyS spoken like a true colonizer mindsetted white person. are you really not giving a movie it's complete props just because it was based upon people of color? but of course a movie consisting of a almost full black cast can't be as a great ass any other movie. in fact I'd say it's one of their best movies. you have clearly never watched the video to understand it (and possibly you never even watched the movie).... you're just trying to hide your prejudice and it's peeking out. goodnight
Khalia Ward I have nothing against black people in movies, even on main roles. I just don’t understand why critics give such credit to that fact. Let’s be honest, black panther is shit just like any other marvel movie. How can it be nominated to the best film while dark knight isn’t? It won 3 oskars just for being tolerant.
Black Panther and Winter Soldier are by far Marvels most complex and nuanced films.
And Guardians 2
S G honestly
Those are my top 2 favorite Marvel films. Toss in Thor Ragnarok and you got my top 3 favorite Marvel Movies.
2 words Tenet teneT
@Dr D Let me guess.. The dceu is more nuance?
Goooosh the color design in this movie is gorgeous.
Stunning, arresting and flawless also come to mind. (Just agreeing, and trying to be agreeable.)
Yessss. This made my day ! Praises to both writer , narrator and everyone who was involved in making this. Such a brilliant piece of analysis !
Black Panther is the perfect example of how diversity and inclusive world views are good for everyone! I LOVE that white people are loving this movie, and I want this to open a door for more people from more backgrounds to get into the blockbuster scene!
Because we will ALL benefit from a diverse perspective and an interconnected society!
I love this movie so much and I also like that they didn’t get an old superhero and turned him black. They made a new superhero who’s black and also is from Africa and you get to se the culture and everything. I seriously loved the arts and the outfits there so beautiful!!! I wish Wakanda was a real country! I LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!
@@mariamnasser8807 Exactly.
Original character sells more.
Can't wait for Static Shock
@@wrestlinganime4life288 true, I wouldn’t have a problem with turning an old superhero black anyways (I don’t have a problem with anything like that) but what’s static shock? Honestly I don’t think there should be a sequel, it won’t be the same without Chadwick may he Rest In Peace.
@@mariamnasser8807 Static Shock is a superhero from milestone and DC comics, and he's basically like Peter Parker, but black.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 oh ok thanks
So thankful for this video. I'd been thinking about doing a breakdown of the political messages of Black Panther as well, but you summarized it in a more concise and intelligent way than I ever could!
Excellent breakdown! Love the symbolism and deeper thematic depth in this film. It really made me think. It's such a thoughtful film. I was so impressed by how it touches on questions of what’s the connection or displacement among peoples of African descent all over the world, and in doing this it puts a spotlight on a very real-world issue.
It's really nice to see people acknowledging that, since internalized racism is also one of the many consequences of the misplacement(not sure if this is the best word 😅) of african people in all of these countries where they were moved to, and learning how amazing our culture already are and how even greater it could be really helps to, little by little, progress towards more self acceptance of our african/black heritage.
Oh man, such an awesome movie in so many ways :)
I loved black panther, and I hope that what you said at the end of the video (that it will open the door to more thoughtful concepts in blockbuster movies) will be true. But in my opinion what really made BP different from the other marvel movies is that the director had creative control over his work, I have the feeling that now that the Studio has seen potential in this superhero they'll get their hands on it and "play it safe" by creating another insipid action flick with comedy.
Indeed. This is definitely more a Ryan Coogler movie than it is a marvel movie.
One of my favorite themes of the film which this essay didn’t address is the empowering of women and minorities to enter STEM fields.
Exactly! I loved the analysis, but I wished they talked more about Shuri and her engineering and how they have been inspiring women and POC.
Women mostly choose not to go into STEM fields. Frankly it's pretty sexist to assume work mostly done by men is more worthy then work done mostly by women.
And that minority line doesn't really work as Asians tend to be over represented STEM jobs. Don't think they need more empowerment. If you're talking about black people what they need is better schools in places they live not empowerment.
but why dont women go into STEM fields is what OP is talking about? its not because "girls dont like STEM" or whatever. theres nothing inherently unfeminine about STEM fields. its because there is no encouragement there and i think seeing more characters like Shuri is definitely something that can influence young girls into these fields. wanting to be like a certain character in movies and tv shows is typically what sparks the initial interest for certain fields when kids are little.
Ana. Actually girls DON't like stem, a lot of them don't. They are not interested in it, not good in it, get lost in the jargon, or just straight up give up on it. You name it.
And while there are a lot of women in the STEM fields, they are equally underrepresented in Oil rig miners, coal miners, bomb defusors, etc. and nobody is talking about that disparity.
Also no-one is talking about the under-representation of men in fields like Teachers and nursery.
This combined makes me look at arguments like these hollow and going for the cherry-pick instead of actual discussions.
You proved your own point? Women are underrepresented everywhere, not just in STEM. We're just trying to start somewhere, and you criticize it?
Men are underrepresented in teaching, but most school administrators are men. Men are underrepresented in nursing because they'd rather all be doctors. Lmao. Women are more represented in jobs that men don't want because they look down on them. Stop blaming women and distracting from the STEM issue with your false victimization of men.
I love your videos, I also love I didn"t see an ignorant comment on the thread. I'm so happy to see that.
Dante Miller
Ignorant about what? The fact that this isn’t the first movie in Hollywood to have a cast of black protagonists?
olabomi garuba anything dealing with the topics such as racial tension in history or current issues there's usually or even showing a predominantly black cast, there's always a person who say somthing ignorant. "Why does it have to be an all black cast? Where's the diversity" "His name comes from a hate group organization" (they're not a hate group btw) "I don't understand why Black people loved this so much it's just a movie. "It's too political just be a marvel movie." Even in everyday life I hear ignorant comments, "attending an HBCU is racist. "All lives matter" "slavery evened hundred of years ago get over it"
The key problem to this is this idea that people’s “culture” can be “appropriated” which is just absurd, people should be able to take ideas and traits of different cultures and use it in their lives
olabomi garuba Culture can be appropriated. Cultural appropriation is when someone else has taken something from your culture and or has changed the name and you make it seem like you’ve came up with it, a good example would the boxer braids thing, the actual name for it is cornrows.
So then Frank let me set this conundrum up for you. I am a mixed race Dutch-Nigerian, whose first language was not English, I"'ve lived my entire life in western civilization but the truth is that my people did not invent the culture and i use facets and aspects of the culture like the english language, the internet, the Iphone etc.......am I or am I not appropriating Western culture?
AMAZING analysis per usual!!! Keep up the wonderful work!
As lengthy as your analysis are, it always kept me glued till the end. Great job!
mehmet adem barissever barely 14 minutes is lengthy to you? Have you been checked for any kind of learning disabilities?
ao el lengthy if i watch 10 × 10 minute videos each time. I gotta do some reading too. :)
ao el wow, really don't see the need for such a harsh comment... 🙄
This video is on point. Thank you for the analysis of Africa and shedding light on it's and some of the actual black history. This movie has been so impactful to me as a Congolese American.
Simone Umba a quick question , do you believe this is the first movie in Hollywood that gives you black protagonist and role models to look up to?
@olabomi
why are you asking her dumbass questions lol leave alone creep
olabomi garuba to answer your question, this is the first movie where the isn't a token black person character, about the civil rights movement or slavery, and shows people in Africa in a positive way.
1. Hotel Rwanda
2. Zulu (1964)
3. Mandela( long walk to freedom)
i could go on....
olabomi garuba The first superhero movie with a good role model, unless you think Shaq is a good role model.
Great video about a great movie, can't add much more than that.
OH! And Ryan is officially a must-watch director (Marvel, don't you lose him for BP2), I hope his phenomenal work continues to to catch the public's attention and and inspire for many years to come.
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All of Ryan’s film has Michael b Jordan as a main character
Lol he's the johnny depp to his Tim Burton😂
I'd love a Thor Ragnarok essay, it's baffling that most reviews completely missed the commentary on imperialism as the thematic through line.
I'll check this one out after watching Black Panther, haven't been able to catch it yet
Lou Bloom it amazes me as well. I love that despite that, some people have been able to pick up on what Taika and the writers were doing.
@Lou Bloom @nikemi
Uh...I think I may have missed it too. Can you help me out a bit? I thought Thor Ragnarok was really enjoyable but I didn't realize there was a message too. What was Taika Waititi trying to say?
Johnson Johnson the main plot of the movie is Thor having to deal with Odin's past mistakes. Hela represents Argard's real past that Odin had buried and erased from history coming back to haunt them and reclaim her role. He used Hela to conquer the Nine Realms by slaughtering them, taking whatever they wanted and imposing submission, but when he wanted to change his image he didn't want to reckon with everything he did, so he locked her away and covered everything up...
"Odin, proud to have it, but ashamed of how he got it"
PS: I recommend you to google "Thor Ragnarok imperialism" or "colonialism", there are some good pieces on the subject that goes way deeper than my summation.
Lou Bloom I agree. Most commentators focus on the comedy and or on the ludicrous claim that a whopping 90% of the dialog was improvised. They totally missed the fact that Asgard was built on the blood and resources of others and got destroyed by both one of the main colonizers (Hela) and the colonized, Sutur. That part was masterfully done.
@ruby scott
Well actually... that "ludicrous claim" about the dialogue being mostly improvised was made by the director... So I think it's probably got some truth to it.
But yeah, of course there definitely seems to be a critique of imperialism buried in this light-hearted Marvel action/comedy. And considering the fact that Taika Waititi's ethnic background is an indigenous Polynesian people, I think colonialism hits pretty close to home for him.
I can’t explain how happy it is to see a channel like yours!!! Smart, entertaining, NON BIASED in depth. and able to explain racial topics with respect to all. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 it shows how much time and effort was put into your production.
“how much whites has taken from blacks” *shows eminem in a rap battle with a black guy* lmaoooo
Lol context is everything
IKR!! Aha ha ha ha!!
Yeah that was kinda fucked. Almost like she’s saying “come on, let black people have the rap game”
Should have added Elvis too.
I don't know about that. Most African-American music is simply black people deriving styles from what was once white music and mixing it with their own rhythms. That's how jazz and the blues were created, when African Americans in New Orleans copied white people's marching band music and put their own spin on it. Same thing with tap dancing, which African-Americans derived from Irish step dancing. Even call-and-response style singing was derived from Scottish preachers, as they were just about the only clergy who would minister to black slaves; that's where gospel comes from. As for rock and roll, the original style was black, but the type we know today derives from rockabilly, which is a mix of country music (which is almost entirely white) and what was once a purer form of rock. I guess it doesn't help that most influential rockers since the 1950s were white, and often from Europe, but there you go.
Also, most of the instruments normally used by African-American music styles were invented in Europe or the US.
*Kurzgesagt was just talking about how it's better for you to try to help others because the world isn't a zero sum game, if 5 billion people could afford to pay for cancer research that just benefits everyone* I hope there are more complex narratives in store for future Marvel films. I really loved the Afro Futurism & the incorporation of South African song, iit made it feel like they'd been in Cape Town or Jozi
Nkanyiso Innocent Khwane I watched it as well in
Still haven't seen this. I didn't know about these Kodak facts. Thanks for the knowledge!
was waiting for this ever since I watched Black Panther
As usual you guys hit it out of the park again! My hope is that this youtube channel which is now my favourite channel stays up forever! Indepth and thought provoking as always but my only comment is not a nitpick but a correction in pronounciation or not depending on where you are from! Tobago is actually pronounced Two-bay-go lol as I said small nitpick. I am from the twin island republic lol. I will continue to support and look forward to your amazing content because no one does Game of thrones Videos like you guys!
I don't understand how this channel doesn't have a Million Subscribers. Your content is thoughtful & sophisticated. & truly transcends the average UA-cam Video.. keep up the amazingly great work!
As usual, highly intelligent, very thoughtful, and wickedly insightful.
Lovely work, ladies.
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*Trinidad and Tobago (pronounced Toe-bay-go)
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Thank you for the correction cuz dat piss mi off
Thank you.
Like I said before and i will say it again, you ladies do a great job in explaining the overall view of the picture. PS. It would be great if you analyze the NETFLIX picture ""ALTERED CARBON" because it is also a very good picture and it's very deep, the other thing is the "BLACK MIRROR series most of the time that truly needs to be analyzed, AS always I LOVE YOU, ladies because you do it so well, MY WISH FOR YOU IS TO HAVE OVER A MILLION SUBS.
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Altered Carbon really asks so great questions, though it feels a bit clunky in the end.
I would love if they did Altered Carbon because its such a deep show with a great premise.
Please do a video on Altered Carbon. While the conflict is not as culturally dynamic like Black Panther, some of it are very personal and deep. It may be a bit cliche in certain scenes, but the series is a must-watch.
This brought me so much joy
This is perfect. In the words of DJ Khaled " you smart....I appreciate that."
Thank you for these insightful video essays . Every time I get a notification for new videos, I smile.
Wow! Y'all have clearly put a lot of effort into this and it makes me really happy to witness genuine appreciation of what is, in my opinion, the greatest Marvel movie ever. I really wanted to watch an analysis of all the intricacies in Black Panther to make sure that I haven't missed anything and this video did that really well! Thank you!
FRUITVALE STATION IS AMAZING. It’s one of my top movies of all time.
Thank you, @ScreenPrim . Thank you.
Thank you for your great analysis. You both deserve more than millions subscribers.
One of the more awesome aspects of black panther that i personally really enjoyed was the soundtrack , they gave the emotional scenes so much depth , and the individual character tracks reflected their characters’ personality in a really meaningful way
I was hoping y'all were gonna do one for black panther! 😭😭😭
Amazing as always! Looking forward to more Mad Men vids as well!
Black panther was so good, can’t wait for 2!!
Frank Murphy Yeah... That's most certainly not happening, he died in Infinity War
Ximena Amaya thanks. Fucking bitch
Ximena Amaya but the next infinity war will come out and he will comeback so he can have another movie.
I love your channel so much! Everytime i see a movie or TV show that makes me think i automatically wonder how you woud analyse it. Thumb up for the great work!
Myriam Etalmyna you love this channel and I love you. Imagine that.
Childish Gambino: "This spooky thing called 'slavery' happened and my entire ethnic identity was erased." Felt.
This video deserves so much more views! It's so good! ScreenPrism is my favorite analysis channel, its points of view is so interesting and original! :D Much love from Québec!
This is the best Black Panther movie analysis.
Hehe... Tolkien white guys....
Very clever! LOL
Love it!
😂😂😂 both literally figuratively and their from lotr so it has tripple meaning.
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You guys are so good, a great well researched fun analysis I wasn’t bored for a bit and and learned so much in 14 min. Thank you 😊
Really love the movie recommendation at the end. So glad Black Panther was a success, incredible achievement! WAKANDA 4EVA!
I agree with the fact that BP is more about Wakanda than just T'Challa. T'Challa's growth into being the leader he became represents Wakanda finally opening up to the world.
Great video, although there's one thing it seems you really missed about Killmonger. The difference between Tchalla and him aren't just methods. They have different goals as well. TChalla wants to stop the oppression. Killmonger wants to become the oppressor. It's kind of funny you missed that TChalla even explicitly states it during their fight. Also, Killmonger really doesn't show any apparent sexism. He just shows a general lack of respect for everyone. It just so happens that a lot of his victims are women because there are a lot of significant female characters.
Actually now that I think about it some more the part with the woman at the museum "lecturing" him really isn't like you characterize it at all. She has no reason to believe that some random American knows more about the stuff she's an expert in than she does. Especially since it's implied that he specifically asked to speak to her and then starts asking her about the display. It'd be racist of her to assume he knows about African stuff just because he's black.
The video wasn't saying she was lecturing him as if he was dumb, it's saying that she was supposed to be an expert on it since she works there but in fact doesn't even know it's true origins. She's just spreading more "white" lies about African history.
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@YumLemmingKebabs Actually you're wrong.
Racism = one person believing they are better than another person ONLY because of their skin color.
What you're refering to is "prejudice". That involves making assumptions based on a certain percieved characteristic about someone.
I swear these analysis are so on point! I remember watching the movie and arguing similar stuff with my friend, and it's so nice to see these issues well argumented and validated in such a also well structured manner. You guys are awesome! Keep up the good work, you are so inspiring 😊
I literally have been waiting for this video since BP dropped in theatres!
Janee Harris
Because you wanted to know if this was the first movie ever made with a majority black protagonist cast?
olabomi garuba Nope, it's because I enjoy seeing screenprism point of view.
Ait, different strokes for different folks I guess, Their Idea of blackness itself being a superpower seemed like made up theme laced with BS to me.
This movie was really good. One of the best i have seen lately. Wonderful Job Explaining the Symbolism.
Damm, best analysis yet!
I saw the movie in theater 3 times. Breaks my heart that Chadwick Boseman is gone...he had so much talent and brought so much heart to the icons he played. RIP.
What I’ve noticed: Non black people miss the major messages about AAs and Africans/lack of identity from the Diaspora. Black Americans miss the cultural meanings and African perspective from T’Challa, but are proud of black representation.
My favorite movie of 2018. The first movie ever I've seen multiple times in theaters and I'm so glad you guys covered it. You covered so many of the topics that made it such an impactful movie for me. Thank you.
I'm a ginger and I identify more with Black Panther than any other superhero because of our shared sense of responsibility to fulfill our families dreams and the pressures of being born a leader.
Yes! I love this movie with all my heart and you gave it an excellent analysis. Bravo!
Amazing video, great break down of the symbols, thank you
There is so much I want to say and I really hope that I articulate it properly. I've recently become "addicted" to UA-cam and often find myself binge watching videos. I'm a nerd at heart and I really appreciate deep dives into the underlying meaning of things, the way you all often do in your videos. Having said that, as a black woman I (unfortunately) come across a lot of channels here that I love only to come across the one video from a channel that discusses a certain topic pertaining to African-Americans (or political views) that forces me to part ways with the channel. I've watched many of your videos and (honestly) I held off on this one for a while b/c I was afraid it would make me have to run for the hills.... I say all that to say, you ladies did an EXCELLENT job discussing this movie, it's POVs, and being objective about black injustice. And I can't thank you enough for it. You've got a fan for life in me (and I'm on my way to your Patreon!)! Keep up the great work!!!
Grateful for how thorough and well thought out this analysis is. Blessings to you and everybody who watched as well.
Fantastic analysis. This movie meant so much to me and I'm not even of African descent. The messages about colonialism really struck close to home as I'm from Latin America. So glad you took the time to go through it and use your platform well :)
Great breakdown ladies. One you guys didn't add was the Pan-African flag colors being represented by T'Challa, Nakia and Okoye at the casino with black, green and red. You hit pretty much everything else though. Bravo. 👏
Best movie review channel ever! Thank you for making this!
this totally made my night. thank you so much for your work!😊
This is a analysis of the immense depth within BlackPanther. My only issues are those involving Killmongor, everyones favorite villain. In your analysis you juxtapose Kilmongers "by any means necessary" mentality and masogynistic violence with Tchalas peaceful benevolence and respect for women. Then go on to explain Tchalas warning to the mountain clan as message about simply carring for our neighbors because they may effect us.
In my oppinion, your analysis fails to point out the pure evil at the core of Kilmongers political beliefs. Kilmongers aims in the film are to violently topple the worlds governments, and install his own people as a ruling class. The methods used to achieve these aims are both coercive and murderous, symbolized by the scaring on his body, each representing an individual kill.
Kilmonger is not merely massogynistic towards women, but his primary tool for achieving his goals is violence against those physically weaker than him. He does not simply want to uplift the plight of the African diaspora abroad, but insead seeks to dominate the world creating a hierarchy inwhich he is at the top. Tchalas message to the mountain clan was a dire warning not only because our neighbors have an effect on our own lives, but also warns that an imperialistic supremacist at the head of a powerful state will inevitably set out to conquer the world similar to the imperial Japanese or the many former fascist governments of europe.
Ktamb 2007 This is the biggest problem I have with this video as well. Killmonger basically wants to be a black Hitler, but more hands on. Both he and TChalla explicitly stated his intentions at different points in the film, so it's strange that the video missed out on this.
" Killmonger basically wants to be a black Hitler"
This is exactly how I explained his character to my brothers, and is really disturbing given that Killmonger seems to be the character most adored by the people im in contact with. The entire concept of Wakanda pre-Tchala, is also an incredibly troubling concept once you strip it of its African aesthetic. Wakanda is a xenophobic, racially homogenous, chauvinistic, and highly traditional ethno-state that gives credence to some of the ideas pushed by white-nationalist. I am in no way saying this is a bad movie (It is by far Marvels greatest work), but the conversation to be had about the film so far has too often merely skimmed the surface or outright ignored the darker themes to explored.
FYI: As a first-gen American from Ambazonia, I found the costumes to be spectacular representations of actual African cultures. My favorite tribe was the Mountain clan lead by Mbaku, whom I found to be most like my own people.
this is my way of saying I love this film.
please do a video on the tv show Atlanta because I love the channel and thats a great show
Yes! Atlanta is an incredible show. We're working on a video about it
This is on point
Love this video! Explained so much history that I didn't think to connect to the movie before. The more I learn about Black Panther, the more I fall in love with it.
super awesome analiasess on Black Panther you guys Rock ;D
themoviedude0123 analysis
I did not understand Killmonger’s ideology as having a divide between Africans and African Americans. His respect for the ancestors did not mean that he saw slaves and their descendants as any different from their families they were taken from in the places they came from nor the continent of Africa. In fact, he wanted to embrace and help progress all members of the diaspora, including those on the African continent and all over the world.
The point about him seeing himself and African Americans as any different from Africans on the continent misses a major, important layer of the film’s plot.
While I agree with most of the points in this video, I disagree with the idea of T'Chaka being a wholly positive father figure. Yes, he was a good father that T'Challa looked up to, but Erik's tragic past falls entirely on T'Chaka's shoulders: he abandoned Erik to learn about black oppression the hard way, and made him suffer for the sins of his own father the Crown Prince, who was really trying to uplift the African-American community in his own (flawed) way. T'Challa's story in this movie is, like you inferred in this video, about moving away from his father's isolationist policies and the mistakes that resulted from them, contrasting Erik simply continuing his father's revolution without really learning why it failed.
Well put together ... nicely done
Good analysis, this channel is gold
Finally.. Nailed it!! It amazes me that even some black people can't see this. Good job
Loved the video! If you all make anothe Black Panther video could you explore the framing of the black women in the film and how woman of color are typically seen (or lack there of) in hollywood blockbusters.
I've been waiting for this. Thank you ScreenPrism
EXCELLENT VIDEO! While it may have taken the MCU too long to really dig into inclusivity, Stan Lee was ahead of his time in his commitment to civil rights in the comics...
This movie shows that and you guys did an Excellent job illuminating that!
I miss Boseman 😔 RIP, love. Thanks for everything you've done for the black community
Ryan Coogler does it again. Great analysis, one of my favorite MCU movies.
The analysis and the product of this video is amazing. Thoroughly enjoyed it, keep them coming
so glad you guys have reached almost 300k so fast
u guys deserve it,cheers!!!!
The scene in which little Erik enters the room to see his father dead legit gave me chills
once again, amazing analysis 😍
OMG yesssssss!!
And that why Black Panther should get an Oscar.
Love this analysis SP! Subscribed to you ladies a few months back and this channel has quickly become one of my favorites. Keep up the great work!
haven't had the pleasure of watching this movies yet though I highly want to, but the idea of afrofuturism sounds so incredibly interesting
I loved the movie but am new to Marvel. All but Wonder Woman I found OK but lacking ( I loved Wonder Woman also). I have watched a number of videos much like this one trying to increase my understanding and appreciation of Black Panther. Congratulation on a wonderful job. I did not feel overwhelmed by "nerdiness" or talk down. I am off to my local movie house to see this movie again. Wakonda Forever.
Awesome analysis as always
Good work! I loved the Black Panther movie, and I loved this video. Greetings from Chile
Watching your videos always builds upon my overall enjoyment, adds layers of understanding and additional appreciation for movies i watch!
Kudos to you & keep up good work!
I loved the movie, but i hust might love this video even more
Great Analysis. This makes me think There should be an Academy award for Movies like this
Such a great analysis, got to learn a lot not just in terms of cinematic themes and symbolism, but also more about culture and history. 😁👌
Great video I really appreciate your honesty 👍
You two make great work!
Great analysis, great research, and overall a great video!!!
This analysis is nothing short of beautiful. Thank you!!