Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - It's A Mess

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  • Опубліковано 13 лис 2022
  • After losing its main star and having to contend with an MCU in decline, Wakanda Forever was always going to have an uphill battle to equal its predecessor. But even I didn't expect it to be this much of a mess.
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  • @jonathanfleming809
    @jonathanfleming809 Рік тому +17238

    Their plan of fighting people who live in the ocean and thrive in the ocean…. In the middle of the ocean had to have been the worse battle plan ever 😂

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 Рік тому +3

      Africans aren't known for military tactics or strategy as the last couple centuries of history have shown.

    • @declanhugors
      @declanhugors Рік тому +1095

      Their reason for doing that is so that they're in the middle of nowhere where nobody gets hurt.... but Wakanda would have been the best and easiest choice... since the Atlantians were the ones coming to them

    • @Berd-Wasted.
      @Berd-Wasted. Рік тому +373

      @@declanhugors AIR BATTLE.

    • @cia212
      @cia212 Рік тому +908

      As bad as Namor's plan to fight a war on land....with people who can't survive on land without a mask.

    • @naamadossantossilva4736
      @naamadossantossilva4736 Рік тому +82

      Did they at least use depth charges or any other ASW weapons?

  • @lodrbyroni
    @lodrbyroni Рік тому +5424

    We're also overlooking WHY the F did his mom inherit the kingdom? The first movie made it pretty darn clear that you had to fight to become the Wakanda ruler. Shit they even did it twice. Yet when he dies all the other men who have tried to claim the throne before just said NAhhhh she'll do fine.

    • @Nurgles_Rot_
      @Nurgles_Rot_ Рік тому +827

      Yeah I am not picturing her succeeding in an open challenge from M'Baku 😆 😅 😂

    • @slimmike56
      @slimmike56 Рік тому +426

      😂 shit she had a better shot then Shuri, shes 64??? I look like shit

    • @cjjuszczak
      @cjjuszczak Рік тому +558

      "We don't do that anymore".

    • @superbrainz2357
      @superbrainz2357 Рік тому +644

      So all I have to do is beat up an old lady to become king? "Be back in 5 minutes"-any person in wakanda with ambition.

    • @Paranormalik
      @Paranormalik Рік тому +10

      @@Nurgles_Rot_ well she kicked M'Baku pretty good right

  • @thehonestaspy102
    @thehonestaspy102 Рік тому +889

    I miss the days when the MCU had a clear central narrative, good writing and a sense of direction

    • @pikachew6135
      @pikachew6135 Рік тому +1

      Oh your bullshiting yourself the MCU never had that, the point was to profit of movies to continue writing them, really it’s a superhero franchise even in comics theres seldom meaningful stories you’ll find when it comes to this genre. Don’t be blinded by nostalgia superhero movies were never good lmao

    • @SolarisKane
      @SolarisKane Рік тому +35

      Yup. The MCU ended for me after Spiderman No Way Home (skip Shang Chi). Nothing after that is worth watching. It was a fantastic run, truly unmatched.

    • @luismartins1713
      @luismartins1713 Рік тому +11

      @@SolarisKane Wakanda Forever was good, the plot may be a little confusing, but the movie is one of the best in phase 4, not that its difficult lol.

    • @RedVelvetBlackleather
      @RedVelvetBlackleather Рік тому +2

      It was never good lol overhyped super hero dribble the best was iron man 1 and than only the first half as the bad guy was terrible and I lost interest as soon as he escaped the middle east

    • @AYouTubeUser1
      @AYouTubeUser1 Рік тому +5

      @@RedVelvetBlackleather Iron Man 1 > Infinity War or Civil War is ludicrous

  • @baconbagels5475
    @baconbagels5475 Рік тому +1060

    I especially loved how Shuri survived a worse injury than what killed Killmonger 🤣

    • @S.F157
      @S.F157 Рік тому +86

      He got stabbed in the Lungs/Heart. Sheri got stabbed in the guts, easier to survive then the chest.

    • @kaitoxiii537
      @kaitoxiii537 Рік тому +76

      Killmonger was in a condition to be healed from that injury. He chose to just die. Also why wouldn't the suit be upgraded beyond what the previous could do. We saw in the first movie that Shuri makes the suits stronger when she makes new ones, why wouldn't she include healing?

    • @ahmet_10
      @ahmet_10 Рік тому +38

      Plot armor

    • @roganjoshkrishna2950
      @roganjoshkrishna2950 Рік тому +6

      It just wasn't a worse injury though...

    • @hrbacon
      @hrbacon Рік тому +33

      she got stabbed though the stomach, broke off the spear, fought a super-humanly strong dude, then rode on the OUTSIDE of a plane that had already crashed landed, all while her entrails were a pulverized mess.

  • @isaiah2028
    @isaiah2028 Рік тому +2773

    Has anyone else noticed that whenever a new female character is shoehorned into a story, the writers put a lampshade over it by having another established character say "I like her." They use this exact same ploy every. Single. Time.

    • @leedobson
      @leedobson Рік тому +652

      And every single time...we don't like her

    • @sitcomchristian6886
      @sitcomchristian6886 Рік тому +317

      I was thinking that too. They tried it with Captain Marvel and that, well, didn't pan out...

    • @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
      @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 Рік тому +99

      Pathetic huh?

    • @mekibe103
      @mekibe103 Рік тому +68

      @@leedobson that is bc men will criticize female characters traits even though they do not mind it on men

    • @mekibe103
      @mekibe103 Рік тому +63

      Nope, they use that for male and female character as lazy way to introduce character. You only notice with female character shows your true personality and intention

  • @bradley163
    @bradley163 Рік тому +3105

    Marvel: "Don't ask questions, just consume product."

    • @pete7164
      @pete7164 Рік тому +30

      Right. Why? How did you THINK mass media entertainment works?

    • @Jaco059
      @Jaco059 Рік тому +42

      @@pete7164 when did movies become that again

    • @ReformedSauron
      @ReformedSauron Рік тому +82

      Good little consoomers...

    • @Wotan262
      @Wotan262 Рік тому +108

      "And get excited for next product"

    • @bobjohnson1633
      @bobjohnson1633 Рік тому +48

      Almost every marvel film is terrible.

  • @The_ATF_
    @The_ATF_ Рік тому +439

    The amount of times wakanda actively partakes in acts of war against other countries is honestly impressive

    • @dashx1103
      @dashx1103 Рік тому +31

      Wakanda ... America Jr.

    • @The_ATF_
      @The_ATF_ Рік тому +7

      @@dashx1103 you got that bang on

    • @genekendrick679
      @genekendrick679 3 місяці тому +1

      Because it's a powerful nation and that's what powerful nations do

    • @leojohn1615
      @leojohn1615 2 місяці тому +2

      @@genekendrick679 a powerful nation that can muster all of 100 soldiers and the vast manufacturing and resource pool of 1 smallish city.

    • @genekendrick679
      @genekendrick679 2 місяці тому +2

      @@leojohn1615 Switzerland, Taiwan and Hong Kong (not technically a country but still acts like one) are all powerful countries with just one major city

  • @tumulovermelho93
    @tumulovermelho93 Рік тому +629

    M'Baku should be the next Black Panther. Imagine how BEASTLY a suit would look on him, how much power it would project. He arm-wrestled Shuri without consuming the flower.

    • @ATomRileyA
      @ATomRileyA Рік тому +37

      Was thinking the same thing, he would be awesome.

    • @hunter-js9zc
      @hunter-js9zc Рік тому +137

      Never gonna happen in the M-she-U

    • @masterofnone-mm8df
      @masterofnone-mm8df Рік тому +11

      you seriously think we would get that?

    • @JamesLikesCoffee
      @JamesLikesCoffee Рік тому +60

      Well it's a *man* and it's not "*inclusive*" enough

    • @desertblade1874
      @desertblade1874 Рік тому +70

      It would make sense, M'Baku was the natural next leader figure in Wakanda after T'Chala but they're clearly after an agenda and not filming for the happiness of the audience

  • @poutineausyropderable7108
    @poutineausyropderable7108 Рік тому +1745

    You remember when Tony stark needed basically millions of dollars worth of tech from his own super advanced weapon provided by terrorist and then also raw material and a forge, and equipement plus months "just" to make his first iron man suit, which is now seen as a bunch of scraps/would be treated as a mini boss or strong fodder enemie in any other show?
    Thats taking into account Tony being born rich af, his dad being howard stark and having years worth of experience and knowledge, plus the practice (which would have only been doable because of his budget)...
    But now, a random student can just make sci fi tech from microwaves.
    Yes, because as we all know, if you rearenge a toaster in the right way, it'll become a quantum computer.

    • @Rampage1Rules
      @Rampage1Rules Рік тому +50

      You're taking the films too seriously NGL , marvel films dont make any sense at all .

    • @coronavirus553
      @coronavirus553 Рік тому +10

      @FoundationSS of Musickkk Bro this isn’t 4chan.

    • @roguebarbarian9133
      @roguebarbarian9133 Рік тому +64

      Is it really that strange? Technology advances. What was revolutionary fifteen years ago (in the MCU) has become commonplace now. Once Tony Stark did the hard part of inventing the suit, anyone like Whiplash or Riri can come along and copy their designs.

    • @anaryl
      @anaryl Рік тому +103

      Not to mention that she can make quantum computers function at room temperature and without expensive helium to cool it. It's not like you can buy tonnes of the stuff and not get noticed a little.

    • @Embrace-The-Dork-Side
      @Embrace-The-Dork-Side Рік тому +30

      Or a time machine. Everyone knows mad scientists can make microwave time machines.

  • @robo-nidai4236
    @robo-nidai4236 Рік тому +2060

    I'm sorry. Wasn't the entire point of the first Black Panther movie that T'Challa comes to realize that Killmonger was right about Wakanda's isolation and hoarding of vibranium was doing more harm to the world than good? T'Challa learns that, despite that extreme measures taken, Killmonger just wanted to have Wakanada see the error of their ways and he honors that by opening Wakanda to the world. And this movie begins with them just backtracking all of that.

    • @bobvog7123
      @bobvog7123 Рік тому +133

      Wasn't the whole point of the first movie that audiences will buy any schlock movie that is heavily promoted?

    • @yellowballoon4143
      @yellowballoon4143 Рік тому +99

      @Souven Tudu Doesn’t that just prove how pointless this sequel is?

    • @HaelinX
      @HaelinX Рік тому +47

      @@bobvog7123 I doubt it, Just an honest opinion I think Chad/ Black Panther made a big impression in Civil War, guy who people barely knew(aside those who read the comics), turns out to be super hero, beats the hell out of Bucky cause he believed he killed his dad e.t.c, overall he was a very interesting character that I feel people wanted to see more of.

    • @nathansarfo7219
      @nathansarfo7219 Рік тому

      @@yellowballoon4143no, it shows how that decision has backfired . France literally sent mercenaries to steal Wakanda. The movie shows the effects of that decision right there. You guys just want to find something to criticize

    • @nathansarfo7219
      @nathansarfo7219 Рік тому

      @@souventudu6154they haven’t closed off. The movie literally showed how other countries were plotting on Wakanda for vibranium. Do you guys understand movies at all? It displays effects of T’Challa’s decisions

  • @stutetha0912
    @stutetha0912 Рік тому +160

    This movie desperately needed Chadwick Boseman. It felt so directionless and dragged on forever. Rest easy Chadwick, we miss you

  • @qbxricky5315
    @qbxricky5315 Рік тому +175

    What bothers me the most is Riri essentially built a nuke for class and didn’t expect anything to happen. It’s wild

  • @declanhugors
    @declanhugors Рік тому +11706

    "The Drinker has jurisdiction wherever the Drinker finds himself to be" just has to become another classic line you use every few videos or so

    • @jokver4705
      @jokver4705 Рік тому +201

      BELIVE THAT

    • @privateprivate3767
      @privateprivate3767 Рік тому +151

      my favourite part was when the main character said "it's Wakanden time" ?

    • @rebel4466
      @rebel4466 Рік тому +72

      And he finds himself in different places a lot, when waking up after binge drinking whisky for movie reviews

    • @imhim3717
      @imhim3717 Рік тому

      get off ur knees

    • @UnwantedGhost1
      @UnwantedGhost1 Рік тому +25

      The of his voice when he said this was top tier that it probably gives Bruce Willis a run for his money.

  • @PassportBrosBusinessClass
    @PassportBrosBusinessClass Рік тому +4371

    I've had enough of seeing a hero ran through with a spear or sword only to see them fighting minutes later. It's like the writers don't understand that THE SPINE exists.

    • @ajheartsong
      @ajheartsong Рік тому +308

      Or spleens or livers 😅

    • @SarcasticPlotRecaps
      @SarcasticPlotRecaps Рік тому +380

      i just had my appendix removed last week so am recovering from keyhole surgery. I couldn't sit up for 3 days and it's still sore to move. I cant imagine what a spear through the gut would be like but I certainly wouldnt be up and fighting half hour later lmao

    • @michelecastellotti9172
      @michelecastellotti9172 Рік тому +53

      *cough* reeeeeeeeva *cough*

    • @herheartbeats5727
      @herheartbeats5727 Рік тому +278

      Well, looks like the spine (and brain) aren't vital organs for most of today's moviemakers...They might just want to design characters in their own image ?

    • @ajjr1129
      @ajjr1129 Рік тому +61

      @@herheartbeats5727 sick burn

  • @steampunkrose1010
    @steampunkrose1010 Рік тому +156

    I'm gonna say it. John Walker did NOTHING wrong by killing that dude in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. They magically forgot that every single one of their heroes has killed before since villains are expendable in these films unless they're Loki.
    They could have gotten around the death of the line of kings so easily in this film just by making Nakia pregnant at the start of the film. It easily could have been handwaved that she married T'Challa. Hell, they handwave everything else. We lose T'Challa but there is still hope for the future in his son. Maybe instead of pointlessly dying for Riri, his mother would have died to save Nakia and the baby. Why can't this just be a story of a family dealing with the loss of their brother, son, and husband? Oh right. PRODUCT!!!
    We don't even need RiRi Williams in the MCU since they gave Tony a daughter. Just jump ahead a bit and let her take the reins. Or just have Pepper standing in for him for a while, carrying on his legacy. God, there are so many places they could go and they always choose the shitty one.

    • @somejerk5662
      @somejerk5662 Рік тому +24

      Tony's daughter is the wrong color. Not diverse enough.

    • @plumeria1985
      @plumeria1985 11 місяців тому +2

      Outside of, uh, the reply above, aging the daughter up would require a lot of antics. They're trying to move on with a group of high school age kids essentially taking the reins of the MCU. America, Kamala, Shuri, Peter, uh whatever Ant-Man's kid is named probably(i didn't watch the newest movie i'll be honest). Groot, I guess? The only two answers are:
      A) Age *everyone* up. Admittedly, this would be pretty cool. Spiderman would be older and more seasoned, while Iron Man's daughter would be young and inexperienced. It'd be an interesting role reversal to see Peter Parker try and mentor his own mentor's child, while all of the new generation of Marvel heroes tries to reckon with their predecessors' ideologies and their own. That would mean recasting literally everyone except Groot though, and I doubt Marvel wants to do that and lose.
      B) Age *her* specifically. They probably could find some weird science nonsense reason to do it, but it'd be hard to get people on board. That being said, they've likely done more absurd things that we have just sat and accepted.
      I guess they could also have her get a suit at age 12, but I don't know how well that'd work out.
      You're right about Pepper though. I don't know why we're getting Riri, or why an Iron-Man stand-in is even necessary

    • @nighthawk2548
      @nighthawk2548 11 місяців тому +3

      Bro he literally executed an unarmed and beaten man in the middle of a foreign country while working for the US government while juiced up on super roids just because he was upset that the guy killed his buddy. Not even mentioning the fact that the guy he killed wasn't even the right person. What world do you live in where law enforcement and military personal are allowed to revenge kill and execute defenseless criminals. Absolutely unhinged.

    • @steampunkrose1010
      @steampunkrose1010 11 місяців тому +8

      @@nighthawk2548 I mean I don't live in the Marvel universe and we are talking about fiction here. The MCU set the precident that heroes are killers. They cant turn around and condemn the actions of one while the others were seen as justified.

    • @ineedpowers5151
      @ineedpowers5151 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@nighthawk2548😂😂
      This happens in real life, and done by the very US troop

  • @phreedomphart4293
    @phreedomphart4293 Рік тому +78

    3:03 Just noticed something.
    Here, she cuts the bottom bit off of the soldier's magazine. The soldier then fires at least three more shots from his magazine, attempting to hit her. Disregarding all of the EXTENSIVE other problems with this fight--the bottom of the magazine is where the spring is attached. The follower is pushed upwards by that spring. The follower is pushed, by the spring, into the cartridges in the magazine, feeding them upwards into the firing chamber.
    With that spring attachment gone, or even with the spring damaged in any way, that magazine would have IMMEDIATELY stopped working, the cartridges probably would have all fallen out of the bottom, and no more rounds would have been chambered, meaning he would have been able to fire one more shot, if that. But nope.
    Glorious.
    Phenomenal review as always, ya big lush XD

    • @genekendrick679
      @genekendrick679 3 місяці тому +1

      Damn I didn't notice that

    • @Sl0ppyJ0s
      @Sl0ppyJ0s 2 місяці тому +2

      It’s a magic spring powered by diversity

  • @DOOMStudios
    @DOOMStudios Рік тому +3326

    When Ironheart was flying in her suit in this movie I couldn’t stop dying laughing of how bad her suit is lmao it looks like a Power Ranger.

    • @Adamatronamus
      @Adamatronamus Рік тому +556

      What an insult to the Power Rangers.

    • @DOOMStudios
      @DOOMStudios Рік тому +143

      @@Adamatronamus unfortunately. But it does.

    • @ohdahngboi_2237
      @ohdahngboi_2237 Рік тому +1

      @BIack Panther 🅥 E

    • @Bopmyglizz
      @Bopmyglizz Рік тому +295

      They tried to differentiate it from the iron man suit as much as they could but they made it very gimmicky

    • @wolfbane7497
      @wolfbane7497 Рік тому +208

      And now hold on now that's an insult to power rangers don't drag power rangers into this

  • @kristen21023
    @kristen21023 Рік тому +6654

    "It's okay when we do it."
    "The situation is nuanced and complex when we make mistakes."
    "There's historical reasoning that pardons our bad actions."
    - wakanda

    • @MayorDoWell
      @MayorDoWell Рік тому +340

      Trashkanda

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Рік тому +487

      “I’m Homelander and I can do whatever the fuck I want.”

    • @dansmith1661
      @dansmith1661 Рік тому +161

      Heard that all the time when people lose the argument to "those" people.

    • @chrisbj5251
      @chrisbj5251 Рік тому +30

      You got it damn right Joseph.

    • @DavidAKJohnson
      @DavidAKJohnson Рік тому +461

      The irony of having an advanced civilisation long before Western Civilisation could understand how trains work, yet somehow still finding a reason to have gripes against ‘colonisers’
      Kinda makes you wonder how or moreover WHY they just let slavery happen.. under their watch.. with like ridiculous leaps and bounds in technology.. and conservation.. and economy.. oof

  • @deBrawnyo
    @deBrawnyo Рік тому +34

    Marvel really didn't waste any time capitalising on Chadwicks death, even if it meant a rushed poorly written and directed movie.

  • @Kasino80
    @Kasino80 Рік тому +121

    My main gripe was that they manufactured a new country Wakanda could go to war with, so they wouldn't disrupt the world order set up in the universe. I found that I didn't know who to root for, as there was actually no real conflict. It felt like someone starting a mass fight by accidentally walking into the person in front of them.

    • @adriandenton6637
      @adriandenton6637 Рік тому

      "We like you." "we don't like you" "lets be friends' "we don't trust you" "we should work together" It's Disney Junior logic. At least one of the countries surely could come up with a plan with regards to security that doesn't involve murdering or not murdering a teenage girl. Personally I wanted the water folk to f sh@t up in Wakanda for their selfishness. Not sure that's what the writers were after.

    • @meatsockmike2103
      @meatsockmike2103 Рік тому

      It was a bastardized quest depicting cultural violence due to blatant ignorance demonstrating gang land behavior with a resolve you can find in a Bill Gluckman campaign commercial ❤

    • @traceynelson2170
      @traceynelson2170 Рік тому

      Yea, the people were completely innocent fighting for their leaders, they made us feel things for these water people gave us no reason to hate them then boom we suppose to be happy they die ,also Wakanda is stupid they could have gone to talk to ocean man,clearly he didn't want to kill them, they could have made a plan and no one said ag aren't we gonna vote we just gonna follow a young girl who is grieving into this mess ,no one eles gonna give counsel, also county getting attacked they protect and GET THE LEADERS/RULERS TO SAFTY, f*ck this standing by the window no guards, not one guard? No one? Like come this way Queen and girl that we getting attacked for, lol l said to my husband yeah they had to make her live or else they did all that for nothing Queen dead for nothing since this girl died neway, also SENDING HER INTO BATTLE, she has never fought before, like my man just needed to kill her like he wanted too , and the war over basically but neway.....movies gotta movie l guess

    • @neutronstarpilot4393
      @neutronstarpilot4393 7 місяців тому

      Namore explains what he was doing at the end of the movie.
      This guy is terrible at informing his audience because he just wants cheap laughs.
      If you find this guy funny that's what you'll get I guess, but don't expect to be informed afterwards.

    • @jaysleezy5464
      @jaysleezy5464 6 місяців тому

      Massive brawls because someone accidentally walked into another person? Like in a club?

  • @simonescelsa
    @simonescelsa Рік тому +2476

    One of the issues that I have with the MCU is the following:
    If everyone can become a hulk (smart hulk) with a blood transfusion from Bruce Banner, everyone can pilot an iron man suit, everyone can become black Panter with some herbs etc. etc., why not just creating few tens of thousands of super-hulk soldiers with an iron man suit and the agility of black Panter? Just in case another intergalactic threat comes along.

    • @Paugose
      @Paugose Рік тому +284

      That's another way Marvel betrayed their creations, a lot of Iron an or Hulk was around the idea they knew what people would do if they had their powers or tech, and therefore refused there would be another Hulk or Iron Man (it was the whole concept of "Armor Wars").

    • @Gouka07
      @Gouka07 Рік тому +448

      “And when everyone’s super… no-one will be.”

    • @gwell66v2AnimeReviews
      @gwell66v2AnimeReviews Рік тому +80

      W hulk at least it needed to be a special genetic link for she hulk to get powers.
      And it now occurs to me how mind boggling stupid Tony was for just casually annihilating dozens of suits in Iron man 3 instead of keeping them saved just in case Thanos comes.

    • @zayanything3124
      @zayanything3124 Рік тому +187

      Don’t forget everyone can have the powers of Thor if he so chooses. That might’ve been convenient during Infinity War during the battle of Wakanda I think.

    • @TiczR
      @TiczR Рік тому +74

      I mean, in the comics there are hundreds of superhumans so mcu eventually doing the same shouldn't be surprising. What did you expect from company that makes up stories about superheroes since 1940's. There is no more originality, copy pasted heroes, fuckton of poor versions of each character, fuckton of ridiculous alternative realities and dimensions. It's all pure stinky chaos now.

  • @BananamelonX
    @BananamelonX Рік тому +2172

    Just watched the film. The main problem I just cannot get over is that the wakandans, the most intelligent & advanced humans on earth, bring weapons designed for ground battles to a naval fight. They had the technology and resources to build the most lethal anti-under water weapons like torpedoes & depth charges but no, for the sake of plot convenience (or stupid script writing) you never see them upgrading their weapons to address their battle needs. SMH.

    • @balance1619
      @balance1619 Рік тому

      Or the beg of the movie where they call the western world selfish and entitled, call the USA colonizers the entire movie when they are hidden in the middle of Africa. Their own people are riddled with diseases and hunger all around them and they do nothing but have the audacity to call the rest of the world selfish cba these woke people are so dumb

    • @longdistance4379
      @longdistance4379 Рік тому +120

      They think we're dumb, that's why they do, and say whatever they want instead of writing a believable story. Smh too

    • @OSAYWILLIAMS
      @OSAYWILLIAMS Рік тому +28

      @Bananamelon X9000 Didn't they have like a week to prepare, for an enemy they knew almost nothing about, while efforts were being afforded to refuge and rebuilding their recently attacked home...?
      They did pretty well all things considered. Although the sea attack was desperate and a bit ill conceived at the time.

    • @Dhjdjdnndicjnmfodo
      @Dhjdjdnndicjnmfodo Рік тому

      @@OSAYWILLIAMS yeah but they had also already been attacked and lost leader after leader, if these mfers just pay attention they wouldnt be as stupid.

    • @HowToChangeName
      @HowToChangeName Рік тому +6

      Why? Never heard of Mongolian Navy ordering some frigate before?
      Probably thats what they thought

  • @manuelc5786
    @manuelc5786 11 місяців тому +24

    “It’s okay when we do it”
    Oh how fiction became reality.

  • @dutchgirl624
    @dutchgirl624 Рік тому +51

    What also bothers me is that ocean men gave his most emotional valuable possession, his mothers bracelet, to Shuri. Why would you gave something like that away to an outsider, who you later declare your enemy? I predicted right away that his bracelet would be the key ingredient to make the magical herb.

    • @traceynelson2170
      @traceynelson2170 Рік тому

      True, plot convince l guess, that didn't make sense to me, felt so personal myb he thought it would get her on his side but damn ocean man holding a L for that one

    • @neutronstarpilot4393
      @neutronstarpilot4393 7 місяців тому +1

      It's explained by Namore why he did what he did.
      I hate how little CD misinforms his audience, find him funny if you want but he does do a disservice to the audience.

  • @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
    @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight Рік тому +809

    Namor’s name is now short for “El Niño sin Amor,” or “The Child Without Love.”
    This is because a Spanish enemy called him that. Imagine an alternate timeline where the Spaniard called him “Hijo de Puta” instead.

  • @ReformedSauron
    @ReformedSauron Рік тому +2309

    At this point I don't think Disney marvel can withstand too many more "cultural events".

    • @ReformedSauron
      @ReformedSauron Рік тому +85

      @BIack Panther 🅥 sorry- no.

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns Рік тому +86

      @BIack Panther 🅥 cringe bot

    • @malickmeziani_FreePalestine
      @malickmeziani_FreePalestine Рік тому +33

      @BIack Panther 🅥 WTF ?

    • @gravityslave6277
      @gravityslave6277 Рік тому +4

      I've been over it. Disney can shove their diversity agenda up so high that it hits the nasal cavity.

    • @FreedomAndPeaceOnly
      @FreedomAndPeaceOnly Рік тому +2

      The whole Wakanda idea & franchise was just an attempt to provoke wh°te people with _"arrogant bl°ck people"_ we all know it. 😏

  • @Kenneth_Fishing
    @Kenneth_Fishing Рік тому +93

    Lol don’t you remember when Riri said that she built her first machine at the ripe old age of 3 after her step father gave her tools and let her figure it out 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @traceynelson2170
      @traceynelson2170 Рік тому +4

      Lol we do remember! my husband was ript ,a toddler just casually making machinery lol

    • @robertgaudet7407
      @robertgaudet7407 11 місяців тому +3

      Makes about as much sense as an even younger Rocket Raccoon troubleshooting the High Evolutionary’s High Evolutionizing Machine by glancing at it.

    • @charlesguillergan8759
      @charlesguillergan8759 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@robertgaudet7407that makes far more sense though

    • @MutedAndReported3032
      @MutedAndReported3032 10 місяців тому +1

      @@traceynelson2170 Did you have a stroke writing this comment?

    • @jennyj0007
      @jennyj0007 3 місяці тому +1

      I was perplexed by that part. No way, you let kids near dangerous objects like that.

  • @brayanarias8448
    @brayanarias8448 Рік тому +43

    Besides everything you said, the end-fight between Namor and Shuri gave me “Marta Effect” vibes, also how Shuri let’s almost everyone in her army die because she is taking her time to kill Namor and it’s completely ignored as Shuri and Namor come back on her aircraft and everyone smiles and leaves, like wtf? It was a cheap outcome with terrible casualties and they just brush it off like her attitude as a leader and protector didn’t even matter at all… And one point out of all that I agree with you Drinker, is that Shuri doesn’t fit the role of black Panther because of her goofy character, I literally can’t picture or take her serious at any scene because she just doesn’t look serious, she looks goofy, fragile, like she is waiting to tell a joke

    • @thorodinson6625
      @thorodinson6625 Рік тому +2

      Everything you just mentioned is exactly why she allowed M'baku to challenge for the throne since he has better judgement. She went to Haiti to giving wakanda further problems.

  • @inazuma3gou
    @inazuma3gou Рік тому +405

    Okoye: "I like her!"
    Thor: "I like this one."
    Without these queues, I wouldn't be able to figure out that we are supposed to like these characters.

    • @nostalgicbliss5547
      @nostalgicbliss5547 Рік тому +8

      They are part of the family now

    • @Augusto_Pinochet
      @Augusto_Pinochet Рік тому +51

      Another thing that is repeated, not just in Marvel movies, but all television and movies over the past couple of years, is “I got this!”, “You got this!”, and “We got this!”.
      For real. You’re going to hear it all the time now. I have 3 daughters and I’ve even heard it in kid shows. It proves how bad written dialogue has become. Whenever I hear it now, I immediately stop watching the movie or tv show. It really shows the level of creativity these people have.

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 Рік тому +9

      Definitely the Marvel line of all time.

    • @babajeezus
      @babajeezus Рік тому +1

      *'cues'

    • @inazuma3gou
      @inazuma3gou Рік тому +1

      @@babajeezus Good catch~ I "new" something was off.

  • @GoatInnaTree
    @GoatInnaTree Рік тому +1706

    I love that the MCU is now a multiverse, because in my universe, the MCU ended with a snap.

    • @d00gz_
      @d00gz_ Рік тому +157

      MCU really did shit the bed when it decided “Oh yeah, it’s all a multiverse now”, meaning they could do whatever they want.
      I forget who said it, but there was a person who said that creativity thrives in restriction, and becomes stifled when you are given everything. MCU has gone too wide and despite every movie being so fantastical, it feels so shallow.

    • @thedeutschman9905
      @thedeutschman9905 Рік тому +43

      @@d00gz_ wait hold on a second, if it’s a multiverse, than should the name be the marvel cinematic multiverse?

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 Рік тому +1

      Touche

    • @InvertedWIng
      @InvertedWIng Рік тому +43

      In my version of it, the snap killed ALL the superheroes. Every single one of them. Thanos won and there's no one left to stop him while he sits back and drinks alien tequilas on the beach.

    • @alexfahey6733
      @alexfahey6733 Рік тому +5

      Oh it ended with the snap no doubt about that

  • @DaleRoberts-xm8ye
    @DaleRoberts-xm8ye 3 місяці тому +5

    The MCU pretty much died with Tony Stark.

  • @blackwolfe638
    @blackwolfe638 10 місяців тому +7

    I'm completely sick of tiny little girls fighting massive men and winning.

  • @davidc1721
    @davidc1721 Рік тому +2307

    One huge thing that's becoming blatantly obvious with these franchise films/TV shows is that the people who write and produce them don't have much real-world experience of a lot of the things they're putting in their product. Soooo many flaws & inconsistencies.

    • @SarcasticPlotRecaps
      @SarcasticPlotRecaps Рік тому +163

      that's exactly what I say in my upcoming She Hulk roast. Millennial feminists who dont know what real struggle and oppression is trying to write workplace conflict from inside a Hollywood bubble. The result is as expected: cringe and a total failure.

    • @davidc1721
      @davidc1721 Рік тому +113

      @@SarcasticPlotRecaps I wouldn't even go as far as feminists, in particular. Just people in general. Theres no struggle, no adversity in these peoples lives! They've spent forever in the education/college/University bubble & haven't lived or worked.

    • @SarcasticPlotRecaps
      @SarcasticPlotRecaps Рік тому +14

      @@davidc1721 true, but i was just using She Hulk as a reference given I am working on the video now. But you're right.

    • @ccshumshum8104
      @ccshumshum8104 Рік тому +21

      its crazy how drinker fans imply there exists a group of people with less life experience than they

    • @davidc1721
      @davidc1721 Рік тому +26

      @@ccshumshum8104 well, there is!

  • @xx_z.bruh_xx6916
    @xx_z.bruh_xx6916 Рік тому +410

    Omg the "She makes a garden rake look morbidly obese" line killed me

  • @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten
    @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten Рік тому +18

    You know what bugged me? They mentioned that Riri built the vibranium detector because a teacher told her she couldn't, and I kept wondering, how would they even get on that subject? It felt so random, and almost like they should be searching for the teacher who planted the idea in the first place (the US Gov't, perhaps?). And the rain to bring Wakanda back to their promise of help with resources. Maybe that shouldn't been Ross's job, rather than just a colonizers joke.

    • @traceynelson2170
      @traceynelson2170 Рік тому +5

      My husband said how she could build a detector If she never had seen the stuff before l mean let's make a metal detector when we never seen a metal and dnt know much about it ,also SHE HANDED THAT SHIT IN? Ag l thought she suppose to be smary

  • @shamoney5846
    @shamoney5846 Рік тому +62

    2 great takeaways from this film
    1- the fight scene on the bridge
    2- Angela basset carried the film while she was in it (no reason for her to die off)

    • @libertas5005
      @libertas5005 Рік тому +10

      Sorry that I don't want to spend 3 hours of my life for seeing 2 scenes.

    • @WeresheepLightbringer
      @WeresheepLightbringer Рік тому +1

      The duel between Okoye and Attuma was so awesome I had to replay it a couple of times!

    • @ethancatalan4259
      @ethancatalan4259 Рік тому +1

      I’d say even the fight scene from the bridge was needlessly long and strenuous for no damn reason whatsoever other than it just adding more time to the movie. It didn’t keep me engaged, it was just dreadful.

  • @ethankillion786
    @ethankillion786 Рік тому +1664

    Namor casually giving Shuri a water suit of someone he probably killed painfully and removed their body from was pretty morbidly funny

    • @darkstar114
      @darkstar114 Рік тому +102

      Lmfao, now that you mentioned it, I didn't click it till it was mentioned xD

    • @colinchampion9177
      @colinchampion9177 Рік тому +84

      Lol not to mention they are designed to have a oxygen and power cord attached to them to make them work. The only technically advanced think they have is the underwater sun so how did he keep her alive in it

    • @mrtruman4339
      @mrtruman4339 Рік тому +19

      MORBIUS!!???!?! 🤯🤯😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

    • @Legendary-zh9hd
      @Legendary-zh9hd Рік тому +28

      Its even more funny when he said "we have a couple"

    • @stanza77
      @stanza77 Рік тому +5

      I was thinking as well where did they get that suit because it doesn’t follow the design aesthetic of everything else in Talokan

  • @zimbam937
    @zimbam937 Рік тому +3424

    Imagine being the "strongest" nation on the planet and yet you choose who controls your entire country without question based on who can beat who in an ankles deep of water 💀

    • @Haramu-Fal0
      @Haramu-Fal0 Рік тому +172

      And if that's their custom as to who can effectively be the strongest protector of their nation; why is that a problem for you? Can you do it?

    • @bennym5244
      @bennym5244 Рік тому +18

      It's where we are heading.

    • @tayetrotman
      @tayetrotman Рік тому +740

      @@Haramu-Fal0 Mate, the point is that trial by combat is a stupid, primitive way to select your head of state.
      The person who fights the best is not necessarily the most competent person to run the country.

    • @biggrhymees88one
      @biggrhymees88one Рік тому +36

      @@tayetrotman but it was the same during the Roman times. Or do you think you can't be good in combat and equally good at management and decision making

    • @Haramu-Fal0
      @Haramu-Fal0 Рік тому +113

      @@tayetrotman be careful. That colonizer ignorance is showing. In what society has the selection for monarchy ever been perfect bruv? Name a monarchy, government, parliament, or dictatorship and I'll prove to you that all have been fallible even since biblical times. Wakanda's way of selecting their King is a tradition. If the King isn't a great leader, well that's why Elders sit on his council and he has advisor's as well.

  • @ensignbodybag
    @ensignbodybag Рік тому +59

    I nearly pissed myself laughing when I saw the main villain flying with those tiny sparrow sized wings on his ankles... WTF!!!

  • @miku5840
    @miku5840 Рік тому +10

    Shuri felt so right as the genius, smarta55, naughty sister. But as a main character and as Black Panther feels so forced and awkward.

  • @JustMatt91
    @JustMatt91 Рік тому +448

    "I'm not entirely convinced this movie isn't just some elaborate troll."
    Oh Drinker, you just summed up all of "phase 4" in the MCU.

    • @matane2465
      @matane2465 Рік тому +6

      Except for the one movie not made by Disney.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral Рік тому +5

      @@matane2465 You mean the joint production No Way Home?

    • @matane2465
      @matane2465 Рік тому +8

      @@Thomasmemoryscentral yeah, the only good entry in phase 4.

    • @JOESMITH-qs8ue
      @JOESMITH-qs8ue Рік тому

      True dat.

    • @Noperare
      @Noperare Рік тому +8

      I mean, She Hulk was literally an elaborate troll, and very proud of it

  • @heraldofwar
    @heraldofwar Рік тому +172

    Namor impaling her with her spear was barely a flesh wound Drinker! It must be a Disney idea that strong black women are immortal
    as they did the exact same thing in Kenobi.

    • @CalvinKalisto
      @CalvinKalisto Рік тому +24

      Tony got stabbed too, and he survived. Also, she got stabbed in the guts, and people are comparing it killmonger when he got stabbed in the chest and actually wanted to die, so no.

    • @Jazimo
      @Jazimo Рік тому +1

      @@CalvinKalisto nah fr his was worse to shuris explanation made more sense then Tony’s

    • @kingovharts
      @kingovharts Рік тому +13

      @@CalvinKalisto Tony put some Icy Hot on that wound and kept rollin.

    • @ManderzArl
      @ManderzArl Рік тому +21

      @@CalvinKalisto Tony got stabbed but he acted fast to stop the bleeding. And was out of the fight for a little while due to being stranded on Titan. He had time to heal. Now I don't know if Shuri went on to be "kickass" after being impaled. Because I'm not watching a movie profiting of a character/actors death. Most likely acted like it was nothing but a scratch. Could have left the impaling out of the fight scenes but they wanted the "idea that strong black women are immortal
      as they did the exact same thing in Kenobi."

    • @spidermonkeynuts3851
      @spidermonkeynuts3851 Рік тому

      @@CalvinKalisto if you rewatch when tony gets stabbed he gets it right on the edge of the stomach like right by his side so it wouldn’t be fatal and would hit no vital organs. Suri gets stabbed right in the middle of her stomach. she should be dead

  • @O_O__69420
    @O_O__69420 Рік тому +9

    "The pacing makes an Arctic glacier look like an F1 car."
    lol. That one caught me off guard

  • @jhaysoncarter1900
    @jhaysoncarter1900 Рік тому +11

    I just watched this movie after the Disney plus release and I feel like Riri could have been removed from the movie and it wouldn't change a single thing. She's shown to be really intelligent but doesn't even do anything to show it

    • @keith2527
      @keith2527 Рік тому +4

      Thank you !!!!! Someone finally said it. She was an unnecessary character to have in this movie

  • @guilherme5094
    @guilherme5094 Рік тому +1701

    If the king is dead, according to the first film, there must be a competition to establish the new king.
    Or can anyone challenge the queen in combat and win the title of ruler of Wakanda?
    I'm really confused right now.

    • @EclipseHedgehog
      @EclipseHedgehog Рік тому +68

      and doesn't that technically make Shuri the new queen??

    • @CalvinKalisto
      @CalvinKalisto Рік тому +262

      @@EclipseHedgehog no, it's implied that M'baku becomes king by the end of the movie, while Shuri moved hati.

    • @Poptienza03
      @Poptienza03 Рік тому +303

      The film shows that with the chaos of losing T’Challa, the tribes turned to the Queen for stability
      After the finale, they did go for the trial by combat, but Shuri never had interest and just let M’Baku get it. She’s still Black Panther, which was a separate role, as seen in Civil War when an elderly T’Chaka was still alive.

    • @braydengillespie209
      @braydengillespie209 Рік тому +100

      @@EclipseHedgehog if you watched the movie you would know she abandons her duty as Queen and gives it to M’Baku

    • @ElBarto-ft1qe
      @ElBarto-ft1qe Рік тому +161

      Don't ask questions, just consume the next product!

  • @jorel783
    @jorel783 Рік тому +2524

    When writers and directors are hired based on their social media viewpoints rather than their actual talent, is why we have movies like this.

    • @Chief_kemosabe
      @Chief_kemosabe Рік тому +52

      A good movie? Maybe they should hire more people like that🤷🏽probably think black Adam was better

    • @genox3636
      @genox3636 Рік тому +2

      Is Wakanda based on a real African city? Usually cities I've seen in Africa are dirty and primitive.

    • @Kauhl2912
      @Kauhl2912 Рік тому +30

      @@Chief_kemosabe Black Adam was not better. That movie had more social messaging than this one did lol and it’s story wasn’t good whereas this one was

    • @channingtaintum
      @channingtaintum Рік тому +133

      @@Kauhl2912 Yeah, no. The movie was terrible, yet could've been so much better if it didn't have *THE MESSAGE* shoved down our throats every 10 minutes. The Marvel writers managed to bury this movie's potential deeper than Chadwick Boseman.

    • @explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831
      @explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831 Рік тому +14

      we have movies like this is because Marvel was in a lose lose situation with backlash both ways if they replace Tchalla with critics missing Chadwick Boseman as the Black Panther with the replacement not measuring up to the standard of Chadwick not to mention some may feel it is disrespectful to replace Chadwick as Black Panther. The critics would've went hard on the critiques had they not replace Chadwick Boseman with another male actor especially if the alternative is Shuri as Black Panther. She cant fight for one thing nor can she hold her own in unarmed combat or ritual combat against any male or female in the MCU. She by far is top 2 weakest fighting females in the MCU and that's who became Black Panther, LMFAOahahahahahah.......

  • @nickytommymancinelli8066
    @nickytommymancinelli8066 10 місяців тому +5

    Black panther 2… “bilbo baggins was out jogging in the woods when shiri & okoyas mosquito drone attacks him”

  • @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
    @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 Рік тому +2711

    Losing Chadwick was such a terrible loss.
    He was such a light of talent. And knowing how hard he worked on the first Black Panther despite probably being in so much pain due to his illness.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому +252

      Dude carried the first movie so fucking hard.
      Even with these morons that made Wakanda so americanized in the first movie, Chadwick fucking carried and made it fire.
      it sucks how they fucked up black panther so much man.
      if the same writers behind the first Iron Man were in charge of black panther, it would been 10x better.

    • @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
      @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 Рік тому +130

      @@honkhonk8009 He was so talented. Knowing how hard he worked on this film despite being so sick and likely in so much pain made me respect him so much more.

    • @003333333333
      @003333333333 Рік тому +42

      I respect the sentiment.
      I also don't know you personally obviously but I hope you can hold that outlook to everyday people you encounter daily.
      There are people who are going though pain (whatever kind that may be) and are carrying on and are not making millions of dollars or praised worldwide.

    • @witchplease9695
      @witchplease9695 Рік тому +12

      I like Chadwick but his character sucked. Okoye, Shuri, and even the queen are more interesting.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому +93

      @@witchplease9695 Man what. His character was the best.
      Okoye and Shuri were carried by the actors. But the characters themselves were corny.
      Their characters were too "American". Chadwick was the only one that actually acted what you would expect a Wakandan to act like.

  • @ramondee2074
    @ramondee2074 Рік тому +572

    when critical drinker talked about the first bit of the movie, i thought "yo that sounds like good writing" but then he proceeded with the rest of the story and i was like "okay there it is"

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Рік тому +9

      XD

    • @09bonita09
      @09bonita09 Рік тому +23

      Don’t blindly trust him. He is funny, but he makes money off of bashing films. It’s good go watch it for yourself

    • @biscuitboy30p
      @biscuitboy30p Рік тому +10

      @@09bonita09 its more than good, it was excellent, the pacing, the acting, the wiriting, the score, i actually think its better than the first one

    • @TheFlash-wq3cn
      @TheFlash-wq3cn Рік тому +32

      @@09bonita09 Nah, except for his review for Moon Knight, every other review has been pretty darn accurate, including this one

    • @warofmankind
      @warofmankind Рік тому +12

      @@TheFlash-wq3cn disagree wholeheartedly it was a good film. Did feel like 2hrs and 40mins though that's the only negative I have with it... Critical drinker is a grifter who knows his target audience of ethnocentric white right wing people.

  • @jibrilamvs
    @jibrilamvs 8 місяців тому +2

    Marvel has become so big they don’t know where they are anymore.

    • @Timewalker13
      @Timewalker13 7 місяців тому

      this is what happens when companies start prioritizing quantity over quality.

  • @athena450
    @athena450 Рік тому +5

    I just watched this movie and came straight here, knowing you'd done this video. I had high hopes at the start, but if anything, this movie highlights how little Marvel cares about the relationships between characters. Riri's introduction scene reminded me so much of Tony Stark showing up at Peter Parker's house in Civil War, even down to "I can't go to Germany, I have... homework" and "I can't go to Wakanda, I've got class in fifteen minutes", but there was none of the connection that Tony and Peter had. I thought they'd develop her relationships with Okoye and Shuri throughout the movie, but I don't think she had a single scene with Okoye after the car chase, and she just felt like a spare part in all of her scenes with Shuri. Then there's Shuri and Namor, where there were all the parts and the chemistry for a story about two people who feel deeply connected to one another and make unlikely allies, but are ultimately doomed to never trust each other's motivations enough for an actual friendship (or more) to develop, but they cut it down to the bare essentials... in a three hour movie. And don't get me started on the actions scenes, that had me going "ohhhh this is gonna be good" and then "... oh, that's it?", or the excessive slow motion.

  • @thebrownbaldy
    @thebrownbaldy Рік тому +2303

    You know the Drinker is a man of culture when even he admires how in shape Angela Bassett is for her age.

    • @chaisrocha9853
      @chaisrocha9853 Рік тому +337

      She is in better shape than ocean man

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 Рік тому +189

      facts she aging like wine out here👀

    • @magnumopus8124
      @magnumopus8124 Рік тому +115

      Probably the ONLY reason to see this movie, if you ask me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Dunge0n
      @Dunge0n Рік тому +1

      Her face is horrifying.

    • @johnstrawb3521
      @johnstrawb3521 Рік тому +39

      Look at twenty 2022 photos of Bassett. Her expression won't vary by a millimeter.

  • @pandaman1331
    @pandaman1331 Рік тому +995

    "It's a mess"
    Perfectly sums up the MCU after Endgame.

    • @AscendingAdventures
      @AscendingAdventures Рік тому +38

      Endgame and post endgame

    • @cameronbevan748
      @cameronbevan748 Рік тому +7

      @@AscendingAdventures actually no Endgame was great

    • @dropsey3007
      @dropsey3007 Рік тому +35

      @@cameronbevan748 no it wasn not lol the whole MCU is a dumbster fire, cant wait for them to fuck up blade

    • @theduktape2446
      @theduktape2446 Рік тому +52

      @@cameronbevan748 I think Endgame was leaking what was going to happen after it. Namely the female cast gathering together out of nowhere. I didn’t mind that scene that much but oh man look where we’re at right now…

    • @consonaadversapars
      @consonaadversapars Рік тому +2

      And before. That franchise stinks since the beginning, with some exceptions that were not that great anyway.

  • @talisredstar1543
    @talisredstar1543 Рік тому +11

    I think a recast of T'challa was needed, I felt Namor was fine, and even Menacing at times, but it clashed with the scenes where you thought for a second that maybe he was going to try and court Shuri, only for him to 180 at the end of it. I think, a Recast could of been done, and you use Namor to kill T'challa, where he dies after stopping Namor, and doing something that makes Namor see the error of his ways. Then In the next movie, if you are going to use Shuri, then you go about making her the Panther then. I think the character that dies in this movie, also could of survived it and then you move her death to next movie.
    The movie drags on, but when it gets going it hits in rapid succession with things not giving you time to really take them in. Like he said 3 movies cut into one film.
    I disagree with his take on the comedy, i think it landed for the most part, and that wasn't just every 5 minutes to the point that the movie was a parody. unlike some other shows and movies done by the MCU.
    I think Ironheart has the chance to be a good character, but little time is spent building her up. Instead you get the John Wick Build up where everyone around her talks her up, but with little time on her you don't get to know her, and because all of this happens like drinker said she is just the plot point.
    we are suppose to believe that the Atlanteans are just as strong and as advanced as Wakada, but little is done to prove this.

  • @phelan3025
    @phelan3025 Рік тому +7

    Gotta agree with Angela Basset being the best part of this train wreck. 64? I see her in so many things and had no idea she was that old. Damn she looks good for that. She should definitely be the next true Black Panther. You have to admit, that would bring serious crowds

  • @tkoch7503
    @tkoch7503 Рік тому +816

    Namor is a character from the comics, and in the comics is considered a power. He basically fought the Hulk and the Fantastic 4 to a draw. Originally he was a hero, teaming up with Captain America to fight the Nazis, but then became a villain as he threatened the surface world partly because of what we do to them, but then later was a hero who sometimes joined the Defenders. At his worst, he planned to conquer the surface world, don't think he ever considered extermination. Making him Hispanic is supposed to be a metaphor for the USA.

    • @AudioGAWD
      @AudioGAWD Рік тому +10

      Checks out

    • @Whiterun_Gaurd
      @Whiterun_Gaurd Рік тому +65

      Now this is a backstory that actually relates to the rest and makes sense.

    • @munkleson8882
      @munkleson8882 Рік тому +132

      Just a small point. He's not Hispanic. He's an actual native Central American (Mayan to be exact if that's correct), so I'm not sure if you can take that as a metaphor for the US.

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 Рік тому +12

      wait that's amazing
      So I guess the movie did a shit job then?

    • @XxTurk3ybo1xX
      @XxTurk3ybo1xX Рік тому +16

      @@munkleson8882 that's hispanic that mayans are long gone

  • @JustSomeCanadianGuy
    @JustSomeCanadianGuy Рік тому +1673

    I thought it was really strange that Wakanda failed to honor T’Challa’s promise to the world to share Vibranium. 😂

    • @jonmcdaniel8492
      @jonmcdaniel8492 Рік тому +386

      If they shared vibranium there would be no need to try to get unobtanium and that would remove the purpose behind Avatar II.

    • @tberry79
      @tberry79 Рік тому +51

      @@jonmcdaniel8492 Ha! Good one.

    • @isiahblaise5245
      @isiahblaise5245 Рік тому +132

      they didn't explicitly say they would share vibranium. They said that it was time to look after one another then it cuts to a guy asking what they have to offer. While it may have been assumed it was vibranium, once nations tried attacking outpost to obtain it themselves especially after the death of their king all bets were off which is why she marches the mercenaries in to prove a point. wakanda has several outreach programs and was essential to the battle during infinity war so it's not like they have not been helping this whole time.

    • @Naomi-xu4hq
      @Naomi-xu4hq Рік тому +32

      @@isiahblaise5245 they fought in infinity war bc of personal connections and that they were going to be affected.

    • @asog88
      @asog88 Рік тому +23

      They did not promise that. They vowed to help blacks people around the world

  • @maxmacdonald4830
    @maxmacdonald4830 Рік тому +5

    As a blk man me and a lot of my friends ,hate the whole moral concept of the first one,i wouldn't even waste my time with this one and Sub Mariner is one of my favorites

    • @dkj90
      @dkj90 Рік тому

      No actual black person says “as a black man”.
      You guys really need to stop pretending to be black online. It will never validate your argument. Lol.

    • @maxmacdonald4830
      @maxmacdonald4830 Рік тому

      @@dkj90 not really being Jamaican just gives me a different perspective, and again something I've never herd of b4 pretending to be blk online. Not saying it doesn't happen,but its kind of dumb to act or pretend just to leave a comment,,very amusing tho

    • @DumbKneeGrows
      @DumbKneeGrows 6 місяців тому

      @@dkj90🤡

  • @tommyhawk2065
    @tommyhawk2065 11 місяців тому +3

    "its ok when we do it" Jeez they did it again in Secret Invasion with using the word 'spook'

  • @littlecookie1138
    @littlecookie1138 Рік тому +752

    Everyone: "I`ve been looking forward to this."
    Wokanda: "Our Powers have doubled since the last time we met, Drinker."
    Drinker: "Good, twice the pride, double the fall."
    Edit: Thanks to everyone that liked and pointed out my mistake while still being nice.

    • @thehyperion5333
      @thehyperion5333 Рік тому +13

      Ice cold line

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +26

      Revenge Of The Sith>Current Disney/MCU.

    • @oscar1012
      @oscar1012 Рік тому +1

      @@chasehedges6775 stfu, star wars is trash

    • @Dime_time333
      @Dime_time333 Рік тому

      Its twice the pride ,double the fall. Dummy

    • @oscar1012
      @oscar1012 Рік тому +4

      @Jason Bourne who was talkin bout balck panther???

  • @aliasxn
    @aliasxn Рік тому +746

    It's also weird how Wakanda was perfectly capable of fending off an extremely advanced space-faring civilization in Endgame, and then Namor is able to walk in and out of the city completely undetected TWICE.

    • @NormanOz
      @NormanOz Рік тому +76

      I wish it was explained further. But i guess the dome around the city doesn't run as deep as the bottom of the sea coz water still has to flow in and out

    • @09bonita09
      @09bonita09 Рік тому +37

      Did that space team have vibranium???

    • @jasn6972
      @jasn6972 Рік тому +29

      they had help from the avengers and none of them had vibranium or were able to get into their cities completely undetected (or had mind control powers)

    • @nastyyella300
      @nastyyella300 Рік тому +1

      Wait did you forget wankanda had the help of the avengers ? Wtf shows you just a hater

    • @nastyyella300
      @nastyyella300 Рік тому +10

      @@jasn6972 exactly he left that part out

  • @Dave-um7mw
    @Dave-um7mw Рік тому +5

    9:40 Yes, someone else noticed that line about her casually building her own quantum computer. WTF were they thinking?!? Does she casually build nuclear reactors in her spare time, just for the lulz too?

  • @clippitpaperclip2338
    @clippitpaperclip2338 Рік тому +1564

    "Don't think about it, just consume the product."
    This perfectly zooms up the way movies have been feeling like these last couple years.

    • @crvlad
      @crvlad Рік тому

      What do you expect from these companies? They sit with their ass on the back of the audience, and the way they hook you is with visual and emotional manipulation, which, by the way, is the drug used by the ordinary people after exhausting work weeks.

    • @smokingcrab2290
      @smokingcrab2290 Рік тому +1

      Women are the worst with this. Literally what my wife does. I cringe every time she turns on the TV. She knows everything is shit but she watches it anyway for her daily dose of soap opera drama.

    • @denxero
      @denxero Рік тому +8

      C A P I T A L I S M

    • @diegocoronel1473
      @diegocoronel1473 Рік тому +5

      Wow that’s so deep man congratulations

    • @DW11111
      @DW11111 Рік тому

      @Dootie true, but never has the woke liberal bovine excretions been so blatantly obvious as the past 10 years

  • @wildman2012
    @wildman2012 Рік тому +790

    You gotta admit, a villain with little wings on his ankles is pretty damn terrifying!!

    • @hez859
      @hez859 Рік тому +21

      @Fallen Soul Doesn't Namor have wings on his ankles in the comics?

    • @sc4131
      @sc4131 Рік тому +9

      LOL I get you, but he has ankle wings in the comics, what did you want them to do?

    • @rcnelson
      @rcnelson Рік тому +16

      Namor, which is a backward spelling of Roman, looked much different in the comics. Widow's peak hair and almost a sort of East Asian face. And yes, winged feet.

    • @chris-dd6uq
      @chris-dd6uq Рік тому +5

      @@hez859 Yes. This is what people wanted. I didn't care to see Namor but a lot of people did, and kept bringing up his name. I even got chastised when I asked about the obsession people had with Namor.

    • @drstephenstrange897
      @drstephenstrange897 Рік тому +8

      Yeah the only thing they keep of the original Namor...was that!

  • @kennydalglish8072
    @kennydalglish8072 10 місяців тому +3

    Congo-Kinshasa is probably the richest country ever resource-wise. Also a hellhole in perpetual civil war for six decades.

  • @WunHitWonder
    @WunHitWonder 8 місяців тому +2

    M'Baku should have taken the mantle. Shuri should have stood in her previous role. And Riri was not even needed. Simple.

  • @roboninja3194
    @roboninja3194 Рік тому +255

    "My enemies call me Namor." Well you've been hidden for hundreds of years, no one knew you existed, so what enemies do you have?

    • @jb-ch7ug
      @jb-ch7ug Рік тому +17

      The Spanish Priest called him that, who was his enemy, and Namor probably introduced himself with that name to his enemies before he killed them.

    • @Defformero
      @Defformero Рік тому

      Global warming?

    • @pixel3042
      @pixel3042 Рік тому +25

      His biggest enemy is obviously the US dumping plastic in his kingdom.

    • @Movieclips-hj7dc
      @Movieclips-hj7dc Рік тому +1

      It’s like y’all didn’t even watch the movie 🤦‍♂️

    • @StarWarsomania
      @StarWarsomania Рік тому +11

      @@pixel3042 well, given that something like 70% of plastic in the ocean comes from India and China…

  • @TheMartinicity
    @TheMartinicity Рік тому +1029

    I find it ridiculous that they call all the white characters "colonizers" in the film when wakanda was never colonized and wakanda never gave a damn that others African countries on its border were colonized , I mean, they could have helped them and stopped everything whenever they wanted.

    • @chill4322
      @chill4322 Рік тому +138

      Right? That always pissed me off

    • @Bananaman-hk6qw
      @Bananaman-hk6qw Рік тому +131

      because its woke

    • @ludvigwatte4924
      @ludvigwatte4924 Рік тому +54

      @@Bananaman-hk6qw not even. Somebody has the writers add key words to the dialogue to draw and/or keep viewers, rather than give enough thought to do the topic justice.

    • @adriandenton6637
      @adriandenton6637 Рік тому

      So the Wakandans are incredibly selfish. I'm not sure what message this film is sending out.

    • @amoyablake7909
      @amoyablake7909 Рік тому +29

      This pissed me off so much cause why didn’t they help there whole country at least?

  • @gea5401
    @gea5401 11 місяців тому +2

    Lets not forget they hijack Boseman's social media account just to promote this movie

  • @brucewilliams2561
    @brucewilliams2561 Рік тому +3

    The absence of Chadwick and Tchalla hurt this film. I hope they recast the character

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 Рік тому +87

    *"WAKANDA, It's OK When We Do It."*
    - Based Critical Drinker

    • @jimthar17
      @jimthar17 Рік тому +2

      That needs to be made into a poster with Shuri on it giving a thumbs up and winking. Like an old military "Enlist Now" style poster.

    • @UnwantedGhost1
      @UnwantedGhost1 Рік тому

      @@jimthar17 That'd be hilarious, but would be shot down in almost every corner of the Internet.

  • @elizabethweigle6146
    @elizabethweigle6146 Рік тому +7

    After my dad and I saw this movie, we couldn’t remember all the names so it was Mayan Homeboy (Namor), Telemundo (the underwater city), and Ape-guy (M’Baku) though this last one is mostly bc my dad can’t pronounce the name lol

    • @characatogamer7859
      @characatogamer7859 4 місяці тому

      just call him namoch, his villan name, his other name is tenoch huerta. a know female rapist. also he doesn't pay his children care.

  • @daquanepaschal4633
    @daquanepaschal4633 Рік тому +4

    Seeing black panther slapping around the winter’s soldier is the best thing ever

  • @cascas12345678910
    @cascas12345678910 Рік тому +1738

    My main problem with namor was that they never said he was objectively wrong. Like they tried to show him as a bit sympathetic instead of ya know a guy planning to commit unprovoked genocide.

    • @dansmith1661
      @dansmith1661 Рік тому +39

      Yet which human group are all these global threat monsters compared to to excuse them from taking blame?

    • @ulaznar
      @ulaznar Рік тому +149

      So, Killmonger 2.0

    • @danielhicks4826
      @danielhicks4826 Рік тому

      They are Leftists, even while hilariously and beyond ironically showing exactly how immoral and twisted and vile they are in there own movies, as far as they are concerned they actually believe they are showing how good and moral they are in movies and how they are"fighting injustice" and etc, to them the only group of people who are even capable of being objectively wrong period be it in the crap subversive movies they make or real life is Whites/European/ people/nations/culture/ and history period thats it.

    • @cascas12345678910
      @cascas12345678910 Рік тому

      @@ulaznar killmonger was at least understandable this guy was just they MIGHT do something so i better kill them all

    • @dagoogler01
      @dagoogler01 Рік тому +89

      You mean Ah-Ku-Ku-Khan?

  • @Th3Pr0tag0n1st
    @Th3Pr0tag0n1st Рік тому +707

    So basically, Wakanda Forever basically undid all of the character development T’challa went through in the first one. I thought the whole first movie was about T’challa realizing that Wakanda needed to share their resources and stop taking a backseat in history. Wakanda forever completely undid that within the first twenty minutes.

    • @jomahawk7488
      @jomahawk7488 Рік тому

      Because T'Challa is dead. This is the M-SHE-U now. Grrrrl POWA and all that estrogen bullshit. Gotta stick it to those icky toxic white males that Wakanda is THE strongest nation on earth.

    • @FCUYTFUYTF
      @FCUYTFUYTF Рік тому +1

      Well Wakandans are nationalists and hate globalism. Its the most conservative film they have

    • @PrimeofPerfection
      @PrimeofPerfection Рік тому +111

      T'Challa being gone leads to that. That's how shit often works. Without the visionary behind things pushing stuff, others aren't as invested.

    • @stevenscott2718
      @stevenscott2718 Рік тому +67

      @@PrimeofPerfection True... but the new black panther was literally the science ambassador at the LA embassy/outreach centre

    • @Noplayster13
      @Noplayster13 Рік тому +51

      It’s probably that the writers of Forever had become more racially radicalized since BP came out. Now, finding common ground, understanding, and partnership with the “colonizer” races is out of the question.
      Maintaining ethnic homogeny and dominance is a higher virtue now apparently.

  • @relife3348
    @relife3348 Рік тому +2

    This is why you don't make sequels for movies that don't need one

  • @zanothelightstar
    @zanothelightstar Рік тому +2

    The drinker has jurisdiction wherever he finds himself🤣🤣🤣

  • @chriswilson3126
    @chriswilson3126 Рік тому +508

    Man, this film misses Chadwick Boseman soooo bad. None of the cast can hope to hold a candle to him, and this is reinforced by Michael B Jordan's cameo. The dude steals the whole film in that scene cos he has more charisma in his little finger than the rest of the characters.

    • @MustardGuy161
      @MustardGuy161 Рік тому +80

      Tbh I don't like the movie, but Angela Bassett actually did fantastic here imo

    • @declanhugors
      @declanhugors Рік тому +46

      Aside from the T'Challa scenes, that was the only part in the film that actually blew me away. I was so bored at that point and totally expected Shuri's mother to tell her she's done so beautifully and sending her on her marry way to defeat Namor, and then the shot went on a bit long and I thought I'll be T'Chaka maybe. But then I was hit with THAT. Michael B. Jordan. The scene stayed completely true to his character, and it doesn't try to paint him as redeemed or misunderstood. It perfectly expresses Shuri's struggle with tradition VS science as well as her struggle between T'Challa's peace and Killmonger's rage without sounding like cheap exposition to the audience. It represented the devil on Shuri's shoulder. And then it's all finally resolved when Shuri sees her mother in the spirit realm at the end. If every scene was like this one, it would get the Drinker's Recommendation

    • @calebspencer3451
      @calebspencer3451 Рік тому +5

      They all killed their performances, honestly lol

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Рік тому +14

      Respectfully - T’Challa post Civil War was bland and boring - and Michael B Jordan just plays the same character as his others.

    • @justindai8401
      @justindai8401 Рік тому +2

      @@MustardGuy161 In bad films the problem isnt usually the actors

  • @clarenceknight9745
    @clarenceknight9745 Рік тому +132

    Angela Bassett would've been perfect to play Storm once upon a time.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 Рік тому +13

      In the 80s, she would have killed it as Storm with the white mohawk.

    • @clarenceknight9745
      @clarenceknight9745 Рік тому +5

      @@Paulafan5 I agree.

    • @osets2117
      @osets2117 Рік тому +5

      Oh heck yes

    • @5050TM
      @5050TM Рік тому +4

      Yes.

    • @Phanto5692
      @Phanto5692 Рік тому +5

      I think she still could.

  • @sinoverlord409
    @sinoverlord409 9 місяців тому +3

    To be fair losing Chadwick impacted the script severely, not that it would have been drastically different. But at least they wouldn't have to explain his death. But for those that don't know oceanman's original identity from the comics is the Submariner. But the biggest problem with Marvel movies is. They kill off their best characters like Thanos and Warmonger. Then realizing they fcked up because they actually still need them and could have made meaningful movies with them still. A favorable fit for Black Panther could have been Michael B Jordan if they didn't kill him off. They could have easily made his story about redemption

  • @matthewgibbons9975
    @matthewgibbons9975 Рік тому +8

    You nailed the review, it was cringeworthy and SHOULD have been a fitting tribute to Chadwick and even though there were the fitting scenes at the start and end, the issues were just too many to count 😖 even the reveal of his son at the very end was lame as Shuri had already been to Haiti, so let’s reveal him as she grieves at the end?!? 🤷‍♂️ Well done Marvel , continuing to go rapidly downhill, a rushed car crash of what could’ve been or should’ve been an incredible follow up, very sadly missing Chadwick😶

  • @VacuumTube88
    @VacuumTube88 Рік тому +142

    The "badguy" from this movie was totally chill when Thanos killed half of his people

    • @mozartman87
      @mozartman87 Рік тому +6

      maybe he was 'snapped' out too. and/or his people. Maybe they were so isolated that they didn't know what was going on. Maybe they all got snapped away... that is a over-simplified statement... think about it better next time

    • @inlandtuba57147
      @inlandtuba57147 Рік тому +9

      @@mozartman87 heck, the only reason wakanda was involved was because captain America brought vision there

    • @mozartman87
      @mozartman87 Рік тому +3

      @Diomedes she kind of proved that when she commented on Vision's design. Oh, and Stark was a little busy fighting Thanos on Titan during the battle of wakanda. What's your point here?

    • @t2i3m4
      @t2i3m4 Рік тому +1

      @Diomedes it's fine, Shuri couldn't make the herb which was basically a naturally occurring Super Soldier Serum making Abraham Erskine the smartest man in the MCU.

    • @davidmun1601
      @davidmun1601 Рік тому

      @Diomedes Few issues with your statement. Shuri is about 20 in Black Panther 2. Also, she did prove her smart against Bruce Banner in The Infinity War and she has the advantage of reverse-engineering of everything Tony Stark has done.

  • @RainusBrainus
    @RainusBrainus Рік тому +504

    So Namor's origin went from the classic "Sailor banged a mermaid" to "Vibranium did it". 10/10 thoughtful writing. Someone mentioned that Namor's weakness of being too dry is actually cannon. They made sure that little nugget was still cannon, but retconned the origin of an entire race.

    • @DigiMyst
      @DigiMyst Рік тому +72

      They changed his origin to, his tribe consumes the same plant that the Wakandans used, but this time they turn into fish people

    • @shreddingupontheshore
      @shreddingupontheshore Рік тому +21

      Interspecies erotica is not something Mickey Mouse Inc. approves of.

    • @joenobody5631
      @joenobody5631 Рік тому +3

      Canon*

    • @BR-re7oz
      @BR-re7oz Рік тому

      @@shreddingupontheshore Lol Disney lobbied aggressively in favor of teaching children under 9 years old to inject exogenous sex hormones into themselves in anticipation of mutilating their own genitals. Interspecies erotica is like traditional conservatism to them.

    • @mattsmith1859
      @mattsmith1859 Рік тому +12

      It really didn't if you bothered to pay attention. Oddly enough I'd wager your issue has less to do with how Namor got his powers to 'who' Namor is in the MCU.

  • @quipsilvervr
    @quipsilvervr Рік тому +4

    Ever since Ryan George pointed out that Falcon's outfit covers everywhere but where his brain is stored, I can't unsee it now. I think where the Black Panther is concerned, I dunno if anyone can succeed Chadwick's cool goodguy swagger. I don't think Shuri can hold down that kinda legacy, especially if Marvel forces her actor to pander some bs that will permanently damage the franchise.
    Also, I dunno if I'm seeing things, but Shuri's Black Panther looks a lot more bendy and rubber-ish when she fights.

  • @jondoe-du2fr
    @jondoe-du2fr Рік тому +1

    Had high expectations for this film. But the fact that the Black Panther doesn't show up until TWO HOURS into the movie was the icing on the poor sequel cake.

  • @uneasyr1der
    @uneasyr1der Рік тому +900

    As someone who's worked in the filmmaking industry for too many years, in VFX/Post, it's always amazing to me that anything cohesive from Marvel even makes it to final edit. All of these big budget high profile FX heavy movies are written by one committee, designed by a 2nd committee, produced by a 3rd committee, directed by a 4th committee, edited by a 5th committee, then distributed/marketed by yet another committee. Each of whom have their own separate agendas and ideas, and barely communicate with each other. Not to mention the multiple teams of lawyers, 200 layers of approval on every little thing, then some clueless studio head randomly coming in at the last minute to play "Director" and demand changes!

    • @tonydak8573
      @tonydak8573 Рік тому +57

      Exactly, there is no cohesion between the artistry/VFX department. AT ALL. There are like 5 different studios working on one movie, all held down by legalities and union contracts.

    • @uneasyr1der
      @uneasyr1der Рік тому +48

      ​@@tonydak8573 There are no unions in VFX, we are an industry of scabs. That's why all the VFX artists get their credit (when we get one) in that big slab of stacked credits at the very end of the movie under "Digital Artists". While the 3rd Assistant Driver of the catering truck get's their own credit line over the team that actually made Thanos walk, talk, and breath! Onscreen credits are very political.
      What you're referring to, is that there's usually one main big studio who wins the VFX bid on the show, who then sub out different parts to other smaller VFX studios - with varying quality. The head/lead VFX Supervisors are supposed to be QC on the whole show, but sometimes you simply run out of time. 75% of the VFX work gets done in the last 25% of time left before the delivery deadline.
      That's usually down to those committees I was referring to making more work for us than they aught to, generally d*cking around, being indecisive, and burning the budget and schedule.

    • @tonydak8573
      @tonydak8573 Рік тому +7

      @@uneasyr1der Sounds about right.

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 Рік тому +2

      I wonder if the guys @Corridor Crew are reading this? ;)

    • @uneasyr1der
      @uneasyr1der Рік тому +6

      @@jedironin380 They already know. 😅

  • @persona83
    @persona83 Рік тому +691

    I used to watch The Critical Drinker so I could avoid bad movies. Now I watch it just for fun because there's no such thing like a good movie anymore.

    • @Locadel2003
      @Locadel2003 Рік тому +43

      He actually liked some of the movies of this year. Like Top Gun Maverick, Prey, The Northman, All quiet on the western front & Everything everywhere all at once

    • @mopnem
      @mopnem Рік тому +12

      @@Locadel2003 he also liked no way home & the northman so that’s why I call him the non-critical thinker nowadays, he let his channel vastly decrease in quality from the older days.

    • @thematerialfish3105
      @thematerialfish3105 Рік тому +33

      You need to watch more movies outside of marvel and dc dude

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja Рік тому +37

      @@mopnem "He liked these things I didn't like which is why waaah waaah" shut up

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja Рік тому +20

      Plenty of good movies are still being made, it's just that you're only watching major studio commercial crap. Do you even have any idea how many movies are made in a year? Dig a little deeper and you'll find plenty of good stuff.

  • @binarydark4811
    @binarydark4811 Рік тому +3

    Honestly, should've just re-casted. At least one or two more movies with T'Challa BP to set up Shuri. Now it just feels forced.
    Also would've preferred Okoye.

  • @CastlesKingSide
    @CastlesKingSide 6 місяців тому +3

    Okoye being black panther would have been the most logical choice by a mile. The queen before dying removed her from the Wakanda's special forces group, stripping her of everything that held meaning to her. All her life was dedicated to protecting Wakanda, now she was cast out...but hey, why not have geeky science girl be the new Black Panther over probably the country's best warrior who recently got laid off I wonder?!

  • @rasalghul2597
    @rasalghul2597 Рік тому +694

    One of the biggest gripe I had with the movie is why the heck wasn't Bucky present for Tchalla's funeral? Bucky owes him his life

    • @waltercomunello121
      @waltercomunello121 Рік тому

      Bucky is a straight white male.

    • @rasalghul2597
      @rasalghul2597 Рік тому +8

      @@waltercomunello121 wow I didn't know that I always thought he was a gay rattlesnake

    • @MyronZhao
      @MyronZhao Рік тому +218

      yeah no avengers showed up, even though they all did for Tony's funeral

    • @sicthemutt
      @sicthemutt Рік тому +96

      Cuz he's white

    • @RolandAliman
      @RolandAliman Рік тому +196

      because their contracts expired

  • @triangleman2k6
    @triangleman2k6 Рік тому +911

    Namor’s plan makes Bane and Talia’s torturous plot look genius by comparison

    • @alifazhahrani4256
      @alifazhahrani4256 Рік тому +40

      Namor actually think like 4D chess. He may realize the difference between technology gap between human and talokan, so he gamble but the results is win-win solution . talokan lose like he said became stronger through aliance because they can trade and share technology. if talokan win they Will gain technology and information

    • @chasejordan8065
      @chasejordan8065 Рік тому

      The Jewish Hollywood... Push Gay Black Women.... Oh, yeah Im Black

    • @ccshumshum8104
      @ccshumshum8104 Рік тому +13

      and is this "namor's plan" with us in this room right now?

    • @brontosa5351
      @brontosa5351 Рік тому +23

      And where t f was ocean man when Thanos came?

    • @blacktogami3811
      @blacktogami3811 Рік тому +12

      @@brontosa5351 He said "fuck the surface world," remember?

  • @tokyobrwn
    @tokyobrwn 8 місяців тому +2

    Well said. This movie was a disaster. Ocean Man was a joke. What bothered me the most was that Ocean Man called himself Prince Namor. That aint no Prince Namor. That was nothing but a joke.

  • @SZRLM
    @SZRLM 8 місяців тому +2

    Whats funny is that they could have avoided a lot of these problems if they just recast T'Chala, which is allegedly what Boseman had wanted in the first place.

  • @MultiDildor
    @MultiDildor Рік тому +482

    You can tell how genuinely disappointed instead of just angry the drinker is with a movie with how he says "go away now" at the end.

    • @nenmaster5218
      @nenmaster5218 Рік тому

      If it doesnt have to be Roasts-of-Hollywood,
      try "Some More News". Guy can genuinly be funny while talking about Problems, local or global, and People, local or global. If it has to be Movie-themed, he only has his Popcorn-Movie where he explores much of what C-Drinker talked about before.

    • @persona83
      @persona83 Рік тому

      Well, since he didn't like the first one, I think he wasn't expecting much from this film.

    • @993mike
      @993mike Рік тому +2

      This movie was crap. Not much else to say

  • @stefanmanis8908
    @stefanmanis8908 Рік тому +1926

    Guy who lives in a world where iron man literally invented time travel and an ex-con has quantum tech: “We can’t even dream of the technology wakanda has”
    Wakanda: fights bad man with literal sticks

    • @norbs4004
      @norbs4004 Рік тому +55

      These sticks are made of vibranium. It's the same thing as Captain America using his shield. The female warriors are based off of the ladies from the woman king in Africa called the Agojie.

    • @norbs4004
      @norbs4004 Рік тому +1

      I mean dam why do people have to think the people from Wakanda have to use Lasers and Shit???!!!!! It's a civilization that didn't have to change their ways!!!! That's why they stayed hidden from the world for so long lol.

    • @ConfusedGeriatric
      @ConfusedGeriatric Рік тому +262

      @@norbs4004 that doesn’t make any of it more advanced though. The vibranium being in Wakanda happened by sheer luck and all they did was make it pointy. Nowhere near the level of tech it would take for literal time travel or quantum manipulation

    • @gangadin2873
      @gangadin2873 Рік тому +41

      ​@@norbs4004 So this Agojie.... was it a woman king or a king who identified as a woman or king of everything woman?
      Maybe he/she/they/ze would know what a woman is!

    • @khemikims4058
      @khemikims4058 Рік тому +22

      @Diomedes Is it racist for a Japanese person to use a Katana instead of a gun in anime for instance? You seem like the type who enjoys anime a great deal but you don't seem to have a grasp on the difference between appropriation and appreciation. A gun is not the only valid weapon.

  • @IreneWY
    @IreneWY 8 місяців тому +3

    Black Panther 2 was 90% boring, 9%predictable and 1%movie.

  • @cletus2199
    @cletus2199 10 місяців тому +4

    I left the theatre during the first movie when they called Bilbo a "Colonizer". Racist disney trash

  • @keithdavison2960
    @keithdavison2960 Рік тому +3

    Just watched Angela Bassett in the Tina Turner movie RIP Tina, she was amazing in that film then I remembered her in this and felt a wee bit sad for her

  • @sevrengrey3689
    @sevrengrey3689 Рік тому +385

    Its really sad how we when from "Holy crap ____ is out in theaters tomorrow!" to "oh great another marvel movie. Whatever." in just a few years time.
    We used to be excited to see our favorite comic book hero's come to life on the big screen but now we watch in horror or indifference to what they do to them now.

    • @wokeyoda96
      @wokeyoda96 Рік тому +19

      Yeah I’m done with this stuff lol.

    • @cia212
      @cia212 Рік тому +14

      Same goes for all franchises. Don't watch the news about Raiders 5 - it's depressing.

    • @organikness
      @organikness Рік тому +6

      Great Reset in action baby

    • @N3G4T1V3_
      @N3G4T1V3_ Рік тому +4

      @@organikness Can't tell you how refreshing it is to find people who get it.

    • @MultiCommissar
      @MultiCommissar Рік тому +13

      I don't know man, by the time The MCU had become a cinema juggernaut, the comics were already repulsively woke. I remember thinking, with every new release "will this be the one that catches up with the comics' politics?"

  • @bonehawk1562
    @bonehawk1562 Рік тому +60

    The CGI Ironheart suit was ABYSMAL not to mention all of the other film-making issues throughout the entire movie

    • @rusty7984
      @rusty7984 Рік тому +2

      I enjoyed this movie but damn that suit was so bad I almost died laughing at it

    • @yulbrynner8293
      @yulbrynner8293 Рік тому

      WeeWee Williams plays Fortnite wherever she finds herself to be