“SKINS” IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY I HATE ART PEOPLE| BAD MOVIES & A BEAT | KennieJD
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The butthole is now secured and censored
What the hell? I'm speechless. Just- why?
Me reading this before watching the video: 👁👄👁
you need to do a bollywood movie next gurl would be hilarious! X)
me when i successfully dont shit myself on my way to the bathroom
Yeah, I saw it before it was censored and I wanted to cry? Why did the creator think this was a good idea? I feel like this idea came to him in a fever dream
Well I'm very nauseous between the pedophile, and sexual assault of women and children. I hate movies like this
Yeah i just had to eat pasta during this cause i didn't think it was that bad at the start
I was sorely mistaken
@@OneMoreWord1 :( I hope your stomach feels better soon. Pasta deserves to be eaten and enjoyed and you deserve to eat and enjoy pasta 💕
My stomach is churning 🤢
@@shelbylee242 It's always sexual assault of women and children too, as if...the men who wrote\directed those things...don't like to use this same trope on other men. Wonder why🤔
I can literally list all the movies\series that contain sexual assault scenes on men I've ever seen on one hand, and 9 times out of 10 it's treated seriously, as if, you know, it's something disgusting and traumatizing and not some cute\quirky plot device. Must be wonderful to be able to watch movies without fully expecting some sexual assault shit on some female character to come up randomly and ruin your night -_-
if I want to watch a movie whose moral is "don't judge a book by its cover/ love yourself no matter how you look", I'll just go watch Shrek
Your vibes are great
So right.
A-friggin-men
Shrek 2 is the _shit_ when it's on self love man (also I NEED A HEROOOOOO)
Amen brotha
In the Hispanic art community we use a word for this type of people, they are "hampartistas" people who do "hamparte; the art of not having talent".
People who with connections or "luck" make themselves in the top of the art market, they mostly are pretentious and egotistical people, just what you call "art people"
LOL
Vaya, una persona de cultura que ve a Antonio García Villarán ¿No? xD
@@sancheztrinidad6944 por supuesto, como debe ser jajaja
Como odio esa palabra, se le llama a cualquier cosa o artista que no te gusta.
@@1EmaRock1 Bueno, supongo que puede pasar que le resulte incómodo a alguien, a veces la gente no sabe usar buenos términos de forma correcta y todo termina siendo culpa de el mal empleo de la palabra, igual obvio no trato de representar a toda una comunidad con mi comentario, solo quería decir que teníamos un término parecido a "art people", esta bien no estar de acuerdo jaja todo tranki bro
"so tired of sexual assault being used as a plot device" IM SAYIN
I can’t imagine having the privilege to think that sexual assault is a casual thing and not a life altering, traumatizing moment.
Facts
right-
Maybe more like the opposite? If you think sexual assault is normal (like it's normalized) maybe that shows how effed up your situation is.
@@chloeagape4853 that’s honestly a great point, I totally agree
@@DeadKraken ikr, it's either you're the victim of that shit or you're a disgusting perpetrator/ally of one :/ effed in all ways
As an actual artist AND writer, that movie was just an excuse to make disgusting trash.
Agreed
RIGHT? It didn’t even give me artistic vibes. It had some elements but not everything is art.
Much agreed
exactly
Dadaists be doing the most
Artists: Good people who make art
Art people: This movie.
this movie is despair
@@ursamjr4406 This is worse than despair.
This movie might have actually stopped the biggest, most awful, most tragic event in human history. Junko could just watch this over and over
@@gjamogirl9044 lol accurate
@@ursamjr4406 this movie has not a single hope
I'm scared we're heading towards a reality where being a paedophile is considered normal. Think about it. The movies that are coming out lately. The article I read the other day was talking about how there could be this new mental illness where an adult has the mind of a child and therefore it's okay for them to date a child (I'm not making this up....I was so disgusted).
The fact that it said "new" and "mental illness" in that order in one title already tells me that the persons who wrote this piece have no idea about mental illnesses. They aren't like fucking trends that come and go, ffs.
Well pedophilia is actually a mental disorder. It's a paraphilia. But that doesn't mean it's accepted or encouraged. It just means we're aware of its nature. And actually it gives us a chance to combat it.
@@Falkenhorst2000 it depends, actually. there are certain mental illnesses that exist only in select populations based upon their shared experiences. for example, eating disorders (anorexia, bulimia, etc) exist HEAVILY in westernized cultures largely in part due to how beauty standards are propagated through media, etc etc. however, there are populations of people in the world that don't have access to that certain media, therefore, in their population of people, those specific eating disorders in fact do not exist. at all. they were never exposed to anything that could trigger eating disorders, thus there's no social/mental pressure to look a certain way in that respect. in some cultures, women/men with more body mass are actually considered more attractive than those with less body mass, which is very unlike westernized societies where people can be incredibly fat-phobic. so mental illnesses such as anorexia and bulimia are far less likely to be experienced in those certain populations. to bring an example that some would find very strange yet interesting, i've read that there's a mental illness in certain smaller parts of Africa, towns or tribes, where young students "go blind" and find it impossible to continue reading their books/notes. it's said that this happens because there's an extreme pressure to for these kids to succeed and uplift their community from poverty, thus the children study like hell, and that mental + physical pressure is so extreme that these kids actually "lose" their damn vision without actually having any physical damage whatsoever. it happens, it's so real, and it's so puzzling to say the least. another mental illness that we might find strange is one that exists is in Japan (perhaps other places as well, but less common), where a population of men have an extreme phobia of their penises receding into their body due to feeling emasculated by the workaholic Japanese lifestyle that doesn't allow much room for romance or sex, to the point that some Japanese men have legit held their penis with pliers in order to prevent the penis from receding. so many different things ahhh! also: when i write "strange," i mean that to express how some of us who are not from these societies will find these illnesses almost unbelievable because we aren't exposed to it in our personal populations. but they do exist, and that's super valid. also: i was a psych major in school, so i'm sorry if this comes off as overwhelming... i just got really passionate while writing this, oops :) ultimately i hope this helpful to someone
It really tells you something when this article you speak about brings up the subject of adults being able to date children, why is dating children on the equation at all? Because if you think about it, dating isn't exactly a childish activity, I think most children don't "date" nor aren't that focused on romantic relationships or understand them as grown ups do. It's super creepy that they want to talk about "that's acceptable".
Also I question the validity of so called "mental illness", sounds like that old guy who one day decided he was trans-age or some shit and started dressing as a little girl, who can actually demonstrate that he does have the mental age/mental capacity of a little girl and isn't just self-identifying as one with the natural mental processes of an old man?
There are actually people out there who are mentally impaired and their brain doesn't develop so they still have to be taken care of as if they were a child, and the issue about dating children was never brought up because none of those people have an inherent interest for dating children, because that isn't normal.
@@astallasalex holy shit that was a lot. but thank you for the information I would have never found out about on my own.
This isn't art, this is an excuse to be obscene
YES! Let's talk about how people use "art" as a excuse to be obscene and just straight up offensive
@@kenjako I agree
even better then. If they know art is how they gonna get away with things, troll people and offense them, while making them think there is a greater meaning but in reality they are being fooled. I applause to that lvl of dark sarcasm
yeah, as an artist im disgusted.
i dont agree , this movies very beautiful, but it is an acquired taste
Maybe, now hear me out, just maybe, WE SHOULD STOP MAKING MOVIES THAT NORMALIZE AND/OR GLORIFY PEDOPHILIA AND SEXUAL ASSAULT.
Coming from somebody who was groomed as a child, YES PLEASE.
I was going to say that it didn't glorify or normalize it but it did essentially because it got on Netflix. One of if not the largest streaming services let it be on there so millions could see it so yeah, you right. There wasn't enough punishment in the movie for those who did that shit so uh, as an American, gross. Whole movie was but ESPECIALLY that shit
YES
Agreed. Our trauma shouldn't be a trope gdi
Yes!
she could have just put the diamonds on in her pocket, or waistband, or down her shirt, or 1 million other places that could have saved her from ever having to pass the diamonds through her digestive system
I cannot deal with movies like this, where they intentionally set out to shock and then look down on anyone who feels shocked. It's gaslighting, pure and simple.
As someone who went to art school I can confirm, "art people" are fucking weird. Sometimes, its thoroughly entertaining tbh. One kid took a picture of their roommate in a tub full of McDonald's French fries, smoking a French fry. Absolutely stunning.
it feels like an obscure picture that would pop up on my pinterest feed linked from an old tumble blog
Love it, True art right there
I SEEN THE IMAGE I LOVE IT ITS SO FUNNY
Okay, I love that tho. Not as a commentary on how Mcdonald is unhealthy, but just because it's so perfectly obsurd
Cursed image worthy picture right there
As an actual artist, I expected to be annoyed by the “art people” criticism, but goddamn I cannot disagree.😭
Lmfaooo
Well it's about ideology right? What emotions do you want to convey to the audience, if you're going to be an asshole then yeah that criticism was for you, but if you want to convey something positive either in the form of something genuinely thought provoking, or just plain pretty then continue your good work, I don't know, I'm not an artist
SAAAAME!!!!
Fr🏃🏾♀️💨
well theres art people and then theres "art people" lmao
anish kapoor is a perfect example of "art people"
I don't know what this movie was trying to achieve, but by the end of it this was the message I got:
P*dophiles are human and they deserve sympathy.
It's okay to let people mutilate themselves because they'll die happy.
It doesn't matter if someone loves you for who you are, just as long as they're attracted to you physically.
Y I K E S.
I dont think that the part with the boy genuinely fit in the movie.... I mean it was a shit movie but still, that one part could have been pretty interesting if it was its own legit thing, done in a normal not "art people" way because that is a real illness but damn... Just horrible
I don't agree with the pedo part. How did you get that from the movie? This is why we'll never progress. He knew he was sick and stayed away from his kid. No one is asking you to give him a cookie, but you are acting like you'd rather him have stayed and assaulted his kid. How can anyone get anywhere if y'all put up this damned if you do damned if you don't situation. As someone who has suffered from SA often we do too much demonizing of attackers, and not enough looking into the root of the problem.
@@blueismylove3128
Well how very nice of him to stay away from his own kid but go off and fck everybody else's. If he was really that worried about it, he should've either thrown himself in jail or confessed to a therapist. Though even if he did seek help, he _still_ should've spent time in jail because he repeatedly broke the law and hurt children. As someone who's also suffered from SA, I know there's no fixing what he's done.
@@kirikakirikakirika I agree he should have went to a therapist, not jail. Y'all keep saying put them in jails but those are used for punishment, not rehabilitation (at least in the US) so there would be no point cause pedos are known to reoffend once out. You keep em locked up for bit then what? Back on the streets again? This is what I mean. You will never solve anything if you let your emotions rule your train of thought. And y'all wonder why the world is burning.
@@kirikakirikakirika We can also say go to therapy, but we as a community aren't actively doing anything to get these people in therapy. It's a hard topic to discuss. I don't want any body to go through what I did, but we again have to get to the root of the problem to solve it or at least stop pedos from offending. I didn't get any message that we were supposed to sympathize with the pedo dad in the movie. I genuinely and honestly think you are just jumping to that conclusion irrationally. However there is an argument to be had about him being likened to the other people with deformities. Pedos and rapist most likely aren't born evil. Most have suffered from some form of SA themselves. I think a good obviously start would be to set a safe space for SA or abuse victims to come forward and feel comfortable getting help for their trauma.
There’s a difference between a character being sexually assaulted as an actual story point at just using it cause mouth butt
It's also awful how they glamorize suicide. Like Christian is "happy" now that he's died. Not a good message for people actually going through that.
Absolutely. I know that he didn’t intend to commit but the way they portray the message that dying will make you happy can be insanely harmful to vulnerable people who are thinking or planning on attempting/committing.
I mean i was about to watch the video but if i see something with a message like that i don't know what would happen. I'm in a inpaitent unit for this reason, i don't care if this shit is supposed to be art it could be really harmful.
thats a horribly dangerous thing to portray
As a person who was once suicidal. People need to stop shaming these people. People actually cry and beg for help and nobody gives a shit but as soon as a wrist is cut open, you're calling them selfish and shit. You never knew maybe at that moment they were happy and found peace from the pain. Its not something to be ashamed about nor to shun. If someone wants to go they will fulfill that mission and their nothing you can do about. I live in constant pain and depression and it hasn't gotten better yet. So before you go yapping at the mouth, make sure you actually give a shit about your friend and call and talk to them.
Your body your choice. If someone's life is too painful for them they should have the choice to end it
So the dude who fetishizes deformed women learned nothing from his breakup, and was ultimately rewarded with another deformed woman? That really undercuts the moral of the movie seeing as how he doesn't really value these women as people so much as objects of affection. What was the point of bringing that up if he doesnt change anyway? Man, art movies are trash...
That represents reality though
Reminds me of Lemon
@@brumhelldah917 And? Again, what's the point?
@@brumhelldah917 art can depict the most obscure aspect of life as it is as long as it's not glamorizing it and makes it seems like it's okay and normal. As you can see ernesto and samantha both get the happy ending, it's all rainbow and sunshine. If they really want to tell "that's just reality" then don't make it looked that way? Don't put their "happy ending" next to people like ana who actually get a real happy ending, which is learning to love themselves and realizing that they don't need anyone's approval to be happy with who they are. I do love art pieces that can represent the most obscure of reality; but not through rose colored glasses
the moral was that everyone is a monster on this earth, from physical to mental with all of the characters, and that we can't blame someone because we are ourselves a monster in our ways
"whats something a robber wouldnt want to see when breaking into a house"
"naked grandma"
"nake- hUh"
I thought the same thing!
TW: animal abuse and consuming unhygienic products
As someone who goes to an art school, I honestly have seen plenty of stuff like this. I hate it with a passion. I remember going to a show and almost throwing up from what I was seeing (they showed a woman sewing her vagina shut and...consuming other women's period products) Another time I had a severe panic attack (they killed a cat on screen and showed the insides). I remember once there was a Q&A after one show and one girl who made another terrible film like this movie straight up said she didn't know what she was doing and was just horny???? At first she tried to play it off like "we wouldn't understand" but people kept pushing it until she cracked. I think most of the Art People are just sick honestly...I haven't gone to a film festival since the cat thing
That is traumatic af! Yeah honestly I think people like this use art as a means to mask the severity of their mental illness and justify it and why they don’t need help. I am sorry you had to see that.
anyone else prefer bad movies as in poorly made movies, not disturbing ones? yeah, i got you my sensitive one
Y e s. Love Kendall but stomaching this video was just 🤢
@@gucciasalways ill just skip this week :D
I made it through but just barely. All this happened in front of me and my cheesecake 🤢
@@rodeogirl135473 oh i've learned that lesson years ago, rookie mistake
@@greynotchristian I got regrets 🤮
I hate how “art people” get to make a spectacle of other’s suffering to make a point. And what is that point? That people suffer. Gosh
Damn
How revolutionary
So privileged...didnt even know people suffer
Yeah. Artsy films like this are so trashy, I hate them.
Artsy films like this really make artists look bad when in fact, you know, actually good movies, are made by good artists.
This honestly seems most likely to be an "art film" by someone with a fetish for disabilities and pedophilia that had some disabled actors who (thank goodness) had enough agency to write SOME of the movie about their interactions.
As a disabled activist myself, I'm used to recognizing the signs. I honestly have to know them to stay safe while dating.
The fact that this film focuses so much on conventionally gross things (poop, butthole face, vomit, hell even the naked grandma) the ONLY reason to add any disability into the mix is if this is made for and/or by people with fetishes that actively harm others (pedophilia and disability).
These people don't NEED to be emphasized with. And I say this because of the high count of sexual assault that disabled people go through . Part of this fetishizing is due to the fact that both disabled people and kids are VULNERABLE and require others to survive. The way truly traumatizing things are played off as no big deal is further proof of this. That sexual assault scene? Unsurprisingly OFTEN part of the fetish because the fetish includes control.
Perhaps most frustratingly, adding other disabilities to this like the guy who didn't want his legs is likely meant to show some level of any of the following horrific things:
1) this kid would have BEEN better off with a pedophile dad present in his life (TF?!)
2) trying to align being an active pedophile with "just as weird" as being disabled (EVIL)
3) just the whole trend of getting off on pretending to care about disabled people when in reality it's just finding an excuse
4) shaming people who can walk but use wheelchairs AMBULATORY WHEELCHAIR USERS EXIST. Sure the kid is struggling but if being in a wheelchair makes him happy? Why not let him?? I know that's not gonna be what most able-bodied people come away from this movie thinking but from a disability rights perspective it needed to be said.
Playing the victims here is bullshit (also no one is getting kicked out of their home for fetishizing disabled people THEY ARE NOT OPPRESSED)
I truly believe the reason this was labeled as an art film instead of a fetish one is 1) the producer knew he wasn't gonna get disabled actors otherwise and 2) because then the producer is hoping other assholes that see his perspective feel validated by this and get something to jack off too.
I am aware that your comment is months old but since this was interesting to read, I am interested in sources/sites that mention how to see that someone has a disability fetish.
There’s not even a Artistic™ reason for the mermaid tail to be that gross. The scene’s supposed to be from his perspective and they’ve hammered it in that he’s really happy with this. It would make much more sense Artistically Speaking™ if the tail was as pretty and appealing as possible.
Unless this is supposed to be saying he’s become disgusted with his tail, which was not indicated at any point other than now. I feel like just that one shot of that disgusting flesh tail is all you need to show to prove this person doesn’t give half a shit about actual Artistic Reasoning™ and is just doing this for shock value.
It bothered me as well! If we are in the guy's perspective, who saw drawings of sirens with pretty tails... Why he's happy with that horrible flesh tail?
Maybe it's fleshy because he sees it as a natural part of his body.
As an artist, a disabled person, and someone born with a physical deformity, f this movie. It's not deep, it's degrading, belittling, and insulting. Your commentary is great though
I couldn't agree with you more. This movie is meaningless and ableist.
I would love to see a movie or book or any sort of story about coming to love yourself regardless of what you look like and finding your sense of belonging and knowing that who you are and your talents and beliefs are not stifled by what others judge you for if it at least came from a person who actually experienced and understood what disability is like. I'm sure that could be very heartwarming and helpful to maybe other people with similar struggles to see a relatable character on the big screen or something like that but this movie seems like more like an able bodied person wanted to poke fun at what people who are different look like. It's such a mockery.
@@sarahbarabe8470 Yeah, exactly. If they wanted to make a movie to bring awareness they could've used actual disabled people with real disabilities instead of making insulting caricatures to represent us.
@@lovelym0xie It didn't even get the message right because in the end virtually nobody is different.
This movie is completely unnecessary and unsanitary. Disgusting
Right. Wtf is this💀
I checked my Netflix and I saw that I had actually put this movie on my watch list, I was gonna watch it later, cause I tho it’d be about a disfigured women but than I forgot about it and than kennie did a video on it and I’m glad I haven’t watched it, I’ve removed it from my watch list and will never watch it.
The fact that they made Samantha's face was like that is just awful considering this is a movie about people with disabilities/abnormalities.
@@nagisa0931 omg same!! I thought it would be something like American Horror Story Freak Show or something 😭😭
Don’t worry we don’t claim that as art
I read a book called Saving Noah about a woman who's son is a pedophile, and... I thought it had way more to say on the subject about it? How she ignores the signs and the pain he causes because she loves him, DESPITE him saying "I need help, I will keep doing this if you don't help me" and...
Ugh. I thought that was way more interesting and nuanced and relavent to society than... This.
a clusterfuck, a shitshow, everything lady gaga said in that one meme but it’s the opposite. WHY 😭
is it really an “art” film is random characters *arent* naked for literally no fucking reason
You don't need any reason to be naked tho.
Ironically enought, the reason is that there's no reason. It's like choosing not to make a choice. Paradoxical
At the beggining there's an old fat lady, presumably as the pimp of the little girl. So yeah there's that
@@bozotheclown1142 nocturnal animals
what about Shrek
I am begging indie film makers to just make music videos. It’s clear that they have vaguely related visuals that they think would look cool so instead of trying to force a plot to connect everything just make a music video
YESSSS
Omg yesssss, kind of like Melanie Martinez!!!!
so true
You didn't censor for monetization, you censored for our own sanity
I looked at the uncensored version and I feel sick
There’s literally an entire Spanish song about art people called “Sin vergüenza”, it represents them on point
Do you guys deal with art people a lot bc dang
@@blankbla7101 they aren't common, but they aren't rare
i love how “art film” is in the trigger warnings lmao
As it should
Rightfully so! "Art films" love to show their ass and then get mad when no one likes it. 😂
@@scorpionqueen11 fr
@@ruth7817 💀
It has to be
When my grandma was younger she hung up a blank peice of paper in an open art gallery contest and called it "Blank" just for shits and giggles, it ended up getting 3rd or 4th place by majority votes, she thought it was hilarious. Not really that related to the video but for some reason the memory popped in my head lol
Seen this story multiple times in Instagram and Twitter... just saying
@@roccoon9892 it's a true story, I guess cleverminds think alike, I'm sure the others are true to, maybe just a coincidence. lol
Art people are weird
B r u h
Weirdo, that is totally related to the video :) nice story though
It should be common knowledge that sexual abuse is bad and should be taken delicately.
It should not be used as shock factor, it should not be used as plot, if you want to use sexual abuse you have to take it seriously and taken with care. I'm real tired of people using these forms of abuse in such a poor fashion
Omg i thought y’all were talking about the show “skins” (UK) and I was soooo confused
Yes, I also thought that too
This film is actually sick🤢 nothing about this is artsy at all. Just an excuse to make weird and gross content. Couldn’t agree with Kennie more tbh
Yes this is absolutely disgusting
This movie was basically just the Human Centipede and Teeth’s artsy, creepy cousin who nobody likes
oh god this is the most accurate description 😭
That's it omfg 😂
Man this one was just wild.
And David Lynch’s wannabe nephew, Lars Von Trier’s distant cousin, Todd Solondz’s ex best friend, and Ari Aster’s bastardized former step brother lmao
Agreed. It sounds like it.
I think "Art Elitists" is a more appropriate term than Art People. Because artists usually put a lot of effort into their work, and use metaphors that make sense. Art Elitists' metaphors don't make any sense, but they'll pretend they do to make it seem like they're smarter and uncomprehended. They also just LOVE shock value, and if you don't like it they'll call you a sensitive baby.
me, Is Spanish, goes to art school: wow you insulting my culture an art now?
me, at the end of the video, still Spanish and attending art school: AND I'LL LET YOU DO IT AGAIN
No sabia que la pedof1l1a era parte de nuestra cultura✌
@@cherryontop2141 that's the point
Lo peor de todo es que actores buenos de España defendieron el trabajo de Casanova. No niego que dirige bien sus proyectos, pero el contenido de la mayoría es una puta mierda y punto pelota.
He pensado lo mismo 😂 hay gente que crítica nuestros productos culturales sin entenderlos, pero en esta ocasión ha sido en plan "ah, pues si, toda la razón oye"
This movie looks exactly like those commercials that try to be funny by being weird and shocking but at the end you’re just kinda confused by what they’re trying to sell you.
That reminds me of a super bowl ad from several years ago. I think it was for beer, and there was a monkey and there was a weird song. Super weird, and it didn't make sense
Edit: I looked it up. The ad I was talking about came out in 2016. It was a new mountain dew product. The ad has a creature that has the legs of a baby, the torso of a monkey, and the head of a pug. It runs into some dude's apartment where some guys are watching football, singing "puppy monkey baby". The point is that the new mountain dew drink is three awesome things together (dew, juice and caffeine) and the puppy monkey baby is also three awesome thing together. It's pretty strange
That's basically a description of 90s anti drug Brazilian advertisements
This ad is the perfect example and reminds me of this trash movie:
ua-cam.com/video/uGdTKz9wOKA/v-deo.html
P.S. I promise I am not rick rolling you.
Accurate representation
i immediately thought of the little baby's ice cream commercial ua-cam.com/video/erh2ngRZxs0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LittleBabysIceCream
“Art People” are the “y/n” of the art world, they not like the other girls 🥵
This tho
Love your username and profile pic nakamoto lol
why is this so weird yet accurate
LMAOOOOOO
Reece Graham that’s cause you got this thing called ✨ taste ✨
This movie makes me sick 🤢 and I haven’t even watched and don’t plan to.
As someone who spends hours on my art every day, I too freaking hate "art people" if it's the kind Kennie was talking about where they literally are just pretentious jerks looking for money and fame only and claiming that anyone who criticizes them for their lazy abstract art just doesn't get it.
as a disabled person this film came across incredibly distasteful. they could have easily cast genuine disabled people and the portrayals they did depict just serve as another typical shock value/horrifying image of what disabled people supposedly are.
Fucking bugs me when little people get roles in media but the role is just about how little people don't get many roles in media.
The urinal artist was actually making fun of "Art People's Modern Art" and how pretentious they are. But it kinda backfired because those "Art People" are the ones that were attracted to the piece lol. "Art People" always be making the most distasteful art about "pain and suffering"... likeeee you have the right to express trauma but NOT LIKE THAT LMAO. I'm an artist and it makes me sad that this loud minority makes anyone associated with art look bad :(
Thank you! Was looking for this comment.
And they always tend to be super contrarian and privileged too. There a difference between expressing themselves through trauma and trying to make a commentary on a serious topic you’ve never experienced. I say their privileged bc they are so distant from the topics they often try to make commentary on so it’s easier for them to be contrarian. They’ve been privileged enough never to be close to those topics. Imagine genuinely thinking that rape is just a plot device and not something that genuinely ruins people’s lives. Imagine trying to create a sympathetic pedophile character. And shitting on people for not understanding your art defeats the entire purpose of art. Yes, artist have intent when they create art, but the viewers interpretation of that art is ultimately a reflection of themselves. If they interpret it as nonsense, that’s valid too. It just means they don’t resonate with the piece or their experiences don’t align with it. Just because you appreciate a piece that others around you don’t necessarily resonate with doesn’t make you anymore elite than them.
Anyway, I get unnecessary annoyed over this movie and the cult like pretentiousness “art people”TM
Thanks for listening to my ted talk.
YES I came here to say that!
@@NekoChan-hz7dr You hit the nail on the head! The phrase "tone deaf" comes to mind. In a social context. Art is about expression and can represent many things...but you really need to be careful when trying to "raise awareness" or send a message about a struggle that doesn't affect you or reflect your personal experiences. It's obvious when people do that. Surface level understanding versus lived experiences...
yes!! thank you!! and that piece is moreso directly addressed to the art community rather than the general public as a whole imo, seeing as its commenting about the state of the art community itself. i,..,,really do like that piece.
oh this makes me so happy! i watched this a couple years ago and was so irritated. it's weirdly homophobic and ableist and yet wants us to have sympathy for pedos??? it felt like the director was just SCREAMING at me to be grossed out. "IS THIS GROSS???? DO YOU THINK THIS IS GROSS?????? ARE YOU GROSSED OUT YET????????? PLEASE THINK MY MOVIE IS GROSS PLEAAAAAASE"
This sort of stuff and body horror (especially when mixed with any sexual connotations) without fail makes me want to 🤮 thanks for sparing me from watching it accidentally Kennie
If you’re privileged and plan on making art about a topic you haven’t experienced personally, then you have to be very respectful and actually try to empathize and connect with people who have experienced those things. Other people’s suffering is not there for you to act like a tourist and just take what you want with no regard for the person. Understand the human and emotional experience behind this and respect it, then you’ll make a good film that connects to people, not just something with “shock value”.
Agreed.
so well said, like the amount of obscenity in that movie has drained all shock and disgust out of me and just left anger, its disgusting how such heavy topics are just being thrown around
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This sounds like a completely disgusting movie and just plan UGLY.
I paused the video, watched it, and I am completly disgusted
I agree. The aesthetic of the film is tacky & terrible. Self indulgent garbage.
@@floatinghead5392 right like the sweat and the pink, giving me very much oily and sick 🤮
But... It's ART! /s
I fr was thinking it would be good when I didn’t know no context and didn’t know about it, I watched one minute and was feeling like dying and vomiting in the same time
Art People are literally the reason I quit drama club and didn’t make theater my major even tho I really loved it 😂 I said nooooooooo I’d rather never sing again thank you 😂 here for this rant
I stumbled across Skins on Netflix some years ago and went into it blind. I have regretted watching it since. Your video made me feel so validated in my disgust at this film, and I may be able to actually find peace, now, and stop ruminating over it. Thank you.
I was maybe 13 or 14 when I found it in Netflix……..
Nothing makes me want to vomit more than people using sexual assault as entertainment of ANY kind.
Can you elaborate? You mean it should never be in or the topic of films, movies, music, books, etc, literally ever..?
Imo it's okay to talk about such things in media, but it should be done with respect. Unfortunately, people often use it as shock value, or even glorify it, and that's super messed up. In this movie the pedophile is treated like the disabled/deformed people, and that's gross. Pedophilia is disgusting and wrong, and deformities are just deformities, people can live with them quite normal lives. So this movie didn't present these subjects with respect. Of course, I can't say if that's what the commenter above meant, that's just my opinion on this subject
@Alex Cruz I'm asking because entertainment is a broad category. Entertainment includes nonfiction movies or in other words what you described as informational content. But it also encompasses things like fictional movies, songs, books, etc made to tell a story, which was what I was thinking of when I wrote my comment.
Poorly executed use of those events of course are bad, but was asking does she think it should literally be nonexistent outside of nonfiction. As in there should never be songs about assault, or books/TV/movies where it is apart of the character backstory or the plot? Like for example: Law and Order SVU shouldn't be a show, or Speak by Laurie Halse Anderson shouldn't be a book, because those are forms of entertainment which involve rape, but have a serious tone.
YES
Mysterious skin is a pretty good movie and sexual assault is part of its story
Man am I sick of these edgelord movies/shows that think they're being so 'deep'.
honestly
I realized things that try to be deep usually only have a surface level understanding of whatever it is they are about. The deep things typically come from the inner recesses of someone's mind and they share it and everyone realizes it's accurate to a slightly uncomfortable degree.
Yeah
As an artist, I can’t stand “art people”. I mean specifically those arrogant, delusional ones that think they’re so far above anyone else because they’re “woke” and we don’t know what REAL art is 🤦🏻♀️🙄
Edit: you just got another subscriber 🖤
It's not even that artistic , it's just color theme for "aesthetics " and a bunch of trash for shock value
As an artist “art people” are god damn pretentious and we all should calm tf down.
Yeah, the actors and actresses in this movie, especially the one who played Samantha, weren't paid enough to be involved with this nonsense. I don't care how much the amount was, it wasn't enough.
Facts
They are friends since kids, the director and Samantha actress, they are really populars from a spanish tv show (Aída)
(The mother and the fetish guy are also from that show)
yea i think this is the peak. idk if shit can get any worse
@@TheSamuelbest12 Part of me finds that enduring that, as friends, they could collaborate together to make something in an area that they're both passionate about, then part of me goes....she needs to get new friends.
OMG, your rant about "Art People" totally made me think about that old story "The Emperor's New Clothes". The people that "made" the "clothes" are Art People Pioneers!
When this movie came out I watched it and hated it (of course), I told everyone who asked that it was shallow and stupid, made basically for shock value and so many people said "you don't get it, it's artistic"... Yeah, no pun intended, but artistic my ass. This movie was made by a pretentious edgelord.
TW// Pedophilia literally did not have to be in the plot. Nor the naked woman. Nor most of the things in the movie
The dick swinging 😭
Nor the movie...100% the movie shouldnt have been in the movie...just a blank screen..maybe occasional dogs and cats pics for 2 hours
Not trying to say this movie isn't shit but - the pedophilia is together w the mermaid man, because in russia there's mermaid tattoo for pedophiles. So yk...
@@mmaantj CHILE 😭
Me, someone who considers themselves an artist: Hey why do you hate-
*watches video*
-Aw hell you mean THOSE guys, yeah fuck those guys.
Same LMAO
Same
Same
Yep
Agreed
This is one of the few bad movies from this series that I decided to sit down and watch. I don't often find myself regretting watching movies, but I regret watching this. as a disabled person I was profoundly offended, as a person with eyes I was offended... it was awful. Nothing good about it. The "artsy" stuff didn't even fucking bother me because there was so much more shit going on that was far more maddening
I refuse to call these movies “art films”. These movies are the equivalent of that “one kid” you had in school who sat ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK of the class. Like the DEEP BACK. He had a notebook of questionable images and frequents incel forums.
A lot of these are “disturbing” films that people try to sell me as being “too deep”. Nah, they aren’t deep. They’re pretty shallow, I got up to my big toe and could see I wasn’t going to have my appetite or my patience by the end of the runtime.
And this is coming from someone, ie: me, who liked Hereditary and Midsommer (which are like, “not as disturbing” somehow? Idk. World is fucked.)
There are also some “common” tropes in these movies: violence against women, children, minorities and animals. (All the things you check off during an episode of criminal minds for who is the serial killer.)
I dropped out of art school due to depression but I just want to shout out to Bluetooth headphones for existing so I could do my class work and ignore the pretentious assholes that got mad that the kid who wasn’t kissing ass got better grades than them.
I could rant about these movies and art students I had to sit and endure for two years for a lifetime.
As an art student...we don't claim "art people"
Can I get an Amen?
Those ‘art people’ are none of our kin 😌🤚
Amen
You are art people. That’s like saying chefs have nothing to do with foodies. Supply and demand, friend.
@@kissit012 that comparison makes no sense lmao..
It bothers me that directors like this use what they perceive is abnormal, shove it all together, and turn it into something "DaRiNg". I am uncomfortable with the fact that he uses (for instance) lesbians and "physical abnormality" in the same context/way as he does paedophilia and sexual assault. What that tells me is he sees them as comparable, or compatible, for shock value and that is condescending and harmful.
This movie wanted to be "Happiness" so bad with the shock factor but totally missed the fact that "Happiness" was not just shock factor.
about Cristian though : his story is charged with A LOT of trans symbolics, considering that the little mermaid is a huge symbol for trans women. just watch his story again but with that in mind, it gives a VERY different interpretation : the talk with the doctor who gives Cristian the diagnosis (which relates to some kind of dysmorphia), the self-harm, the miscommunication and misunderstanding with the mother, the FULLY FLESHED tail, and most sadly the suicide part because of a refusal for surgery
this movie implies that CSA survivors are born to be assulted and it is our purpose.
Yes, it also implies that victims won’t have any long lasting trauma affecting their lives in any way and that they should actually be flattered? And if the person assaulting them gives them a gift or is not as “violent”, they should be grateful? Not to mention that there is more effort put in to making the audience feel sorry for the man who sexually abused a child than there was trying to develop Laura’s character or show how she was affected by literal child sex trafficking. I was disgusted watching this movie.
@@kjlucky6501 THANK YOU.
right .... its so messed up
Exactly. The pedo agenda is real. Monsters are among us. Look into Pedogate/Pizzagate.
@@FastNCurious88 maybe instead of going into insane conspiracy theorys, let's mention the fact the most CSA cases go unreported because children think it's normal, for example my own. Pizzagate isn't real, if you wanna talk about child trafficking talk about the real thing, because it IS real pizzagate isn't, hun.
Also pedophilia is actually very normalized and it disgusts me that you have to create a whole conspiracy theory instead of trying to, I dunno, stopping the normalization of pedophilia and trying to bring awareness to ACTUAL child trafficking.
Also fuck you for targeting a CSA survivor for your bullshit :) don't reply
Artists: has emotions and feelings tied to art and cares about producing art
Art People : I’m here to fuck shit up and not in the fun way
Art People: Eww. They're having fun. People that only like pretty things are evil, shallow people. Only ugly things that AT LEAST mildly disgust you are deep.
BRU there is a line that artists have to draw so these art people don’t get mixed up with us.
@@schweetnemo literally. All of us “I’m an art person not an Art Person”
@@rubenaalexander5007 I just wanna make some pretty colors and shapes sorry I didn’t put all my trauma in every piece
I want to become an artist, I need to practice
I miss those art films that made me feel an unknown emotion that felt like me being a mute French girl eating popcorn and walking around empty alleyways with no people.
Girl, I just found you, and I love you. My mum is an artist who has a PhD in art history. She loves art and raised me to love art as much as she does. Your rant on Art People had me dying! I laughed so hard, I set off my heart and oxygen monitors. My nurse was like wth are you watching?! So, you just gained 2 new subs!!
Edit: Christian at the end? Nightmare fuel.
i think what infuriates me the most about this movie is that it really reads like something made out by a bunch of abled people who think that making a shock value movie about this message would somehow make the message stronger instead of completely devaluating it. I think what really makes it NOT work is the fact they put like, real disabilities on the same level that good old butthole lady. it feels like you're making fun of the other VERY REAL disabilities faced by the characters in this movie.
My thoughts exactly!
Couldn’t agree more. It’s like it’s coming from a blindly privileged position in which they falsely equate their work as a statement rather than what it is. A loosely political commentary over shock porn.
Omg yes! That’s what I was thinking the whole time!
Not to mention putting a pedophile as one of the "misunderstood" people. Like what even.
@@riversrhodell2359 I know about non-offending pedophiles who like, put themselves into therapy, who never touched a child and I have some sympathy for them, but the film completely lost me when it went and made him a child rapist. Is giving his victim a gift supposed to make him sympathetic despite *that*?
PLEASE THANK GOD as a professional artist can we PLEASE talk about Art People. that rant is on point. they're just twitter trolls with a creative "skill" i hate it here
EXACTLY i enjoy painting and sketching and "Art People" make me want to scream
ITS WHAT IM DREADING ABOUT GOING TO ART SCHOOL, IM GONNA BE SURROUNDED BY THEM THATS HORRIFYING
Same, artist here as well
Its’ like, when you’re an artist, there’s a clear difference between shock value and actually invoking thought from difficult themes in your work, and “haha she’s shidding from her mouth, and only I get it” is just really gross.
@@she7061 art school/classes are like a 50/50, I was kinda worried that I’d end up with *those* art people but my classmates are all pretty chill, but i’ve also been in art classes before with a lot of pretentious assholes too. don’t let it put you off though, people like that are easy to deal with if you just ignore them :)
I love how Art Film is one of the warnings. What the serious fuck is with try-hard Art people?
the worst thing about this is that the actual ideas behind it sound like it could have made for a cool short film but instead it's gross :)
People who like what the creator was claiming to do but actually didn't would like the film Penelope, it's actually good, the main character is a girl with a curse that gave her a pig nose
The movie seems so disrespectful to people with disabilities damn
It is. I meant they mixed actual physical disabilities with fantastical ones and treated fetishisms as all at the same level with no nuance. Like you can tell this movie was made by a neurotypical, able-bodied man.
My brain kinda died watching this video so I don't know if you're right or not. Like every time I'm about to form an opinion about it the thought blanks out.
The guy that wanted to get facial reconstructions from the burns. I get him. He probably was a normal looking dude that went through a traumatising experience that had permanent scars. The girl most likely would not have woken up one day with the facial disfigurement. They seemed to have a similar problem only on the outside. On the inside, she was a selfish jerk. Just because she couldn't change herself, why did she have to ruin that guy's chances at minimal happiness? Was the movie shaming people who try facial reconstruction after devastating accidents? I'm also angry that the guy magically looked normal after getting surgery. It doesn't work that way. Lots of surgeries and lots of money later wouldn't make him look normal.
Also, he most likely faced health complications because of the burns and they are completely brushing over that. And the girl could have at least gotten surgery to stop the skin from growing over her eyes.
Butt hole Samantha was utterly disrespectful. Butt holes are fetishised. Why would you make someone's fetish a serious disability? What is wrong with you? You just wanted to be gross. There are people out there that don't look pleasing to the eye because of diseases and disabilities, and society doesn't except them, and that's a serious problem. Even I don't except them properly at first, and have to slowly warm up to them. But why would you trivialise it by making it a fetish?
I have so many problems with this movie. No single thought encompasses exactly what's wrong with it. That's why a thought dies when I think about it. So many things rush to my head I can't even - UGH.
And why did the guy with the fetish end up with butt hole girl? Was the message that she was so pathetic only a fetishist could love her? Was the message that ugly people should lower their standards? Or was it that even a gross fetishist could find love if they just met the right person? Am I overthinking the movie? It just sounds like something a man would write. "Women, lower your standards because the right guy isn't gonna come along, I'M THE ONLY THING WHO WILL EVER LOVE A GROSS MONSTER LIKE YOU."
Yeah. This movie was definitely made to satisfy weird sick fantasies of able bodied people.
The biggest “hear me out” film of all
For real 💯
"i know a woman having a butthole mouth sounds fucked up and weird. HOWEVER! HOWEVER."
Underrated comment😂😂
I loved it
I usually like to watch niche movies and i put this on my netflix to watch list,,, thank you for this video before i watched it 💀
Bro same, but i actually saw the movie annnd yes, it is absolutely trash 😪
This movie is basically some guy who watched A24 movies and decided "yeah, I can do that" without actually having the talent and insight of A24 directors
Fun fact: I went to film school. These films are called “art house films”. Freshman year, we watched a bunch of these. They’re never really good. We were told “it’s an art house film, you wouldn’t understand”. I dropped out because of that same notion
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I’m planning on going to film school and ready to fight the shit outta ppl who have this mentality. It’s pretentious and elitist, and it’s used as a shield from criticism. How can we critique anything or question it if our criticisms are shrugged off because it’s not that you have anyhing valid to say, you just DoNT UnDErstAnD.
Art house films I respect: Some of Ozu's stuff, The Holy Mountain, Umberto D., Freddy Got Fingered, Wings of Desire, the Love Witch, and if it really came down to it, Daisies.
Art house films I don't respect: Don't Kill me, but a lot of Lars Von Trier stuff, followed by this movie. Because they're ALL just fucking this movie. Taxidermia is this movie. PerfEction is this movie. A Serbian Film is this movie. K.I.D.S. is this movie. It's all just the same competently scored and shot yawn-fests with intentionally unnatural acting and some clever camera work and practical effects that get the same boring repetitive message across through shock value.
(I didn't go to film school but I was a Comm major so I took a lot of film classes. I was BLESSED to get a lot of people that were in it for the technical aspects of filmmaking and my prof was a down to earth guy who poo-pooed movies like these.)
@@jakirakumahata5701 hey thanks for the recommendation! I'll be checking them out
@@milkeyway7105 No prob! Only FREDDY GOT FINGERED WAS A JOKE DON’T WATCH THAT ONE
Okay, if I were to watch this movie by myself I would need:
- a puke bucket
- an emotional support person
- gallon of ice cream
- a year of therapy
Two years.
Girl I couldnt eat the ice cream.
You might need an extra bucket
Throw on an extra two years just to be safe
You can never have too much therapy
@@autisticrabi5296 especially after this movie
The person who made this movie didn't want to spread awareness about physical deformities. They just wanted to make a spectacle. I am so dissapointed that he had the money and the chance to make a movie to inform people but did this instead. What a waste
I watched this with a couple of friends in highschool because we thought it was a horror movie. Afterwards we were shocked, like wtf did we just watched and why did we finished it. I remember being back home eating pizza but having did weird feeling in my stomach.
This is probably the most disturbing movie KENNIE has ever reviewed...
Im having trouble sitting through the whole thing. I pause, watch TikToks, then come back for 2 minutes until I need another palate cleanse. Kennie’s doing a great job reviewing it so I wanna hear what she says but I need breaks!
I mean Teeth was a doozy so that's saying alot!
Had to skip some parts, like the thing the mermaid shit was going to human mutilation route and I can't deal with that
As an artist, I do not associate with "art people"
this is truly horrifying
also happy birthday Kendall!
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As an art student - Agreed.
Same here
Yes! Real artists don’t have to be pretentious to enjoy art
Same
I think that movies shouldn’t shy away from dark stuff, but if the excessiveness or portrayal of the issues only adds to distract or shock people and derails from the story overall, it’s probably a bad addition.
Like, what actual purpose is there for the girl to have a butthole mouth (which has never actually existed as a condition cus that’s not how bodies work)? What if she was simply mute, or her mouth was deformed in some other way? Is it supposed to be funny? What purpose does it even serve narratively?
I’m willing to bet that this aspect of the story was only put in to be shocking and gross. A lot of these parts of the story are just there to make you uncomfortable, but it’s not a “wow, this is so gripping and real” uncomfortable, but a “why the hell am I watching this” uncomfortable.
Remember: Art People and art people are different
As an art student... yeah the “art people” criticism is so valid and I completely agree. It sucks because the use of color theory and set design has a lot of potential to be interesting but it’s overridden by EVERYTHING else and the pretentiousness- the absolute gull at some points- of the person who made the film. Happy birthday btw Kennie, sorry you had to watch this shit movie for it 😔
fun fact about the guy signing his name on the urinal art: He did that literally as a commentary about how batshit insane art was getting and did it to PROVE A POINT, but people ended up loving it instead of actually thinking about why he did it. so he kinda ended up shooting himself in the foot LOL
(i'm pretty sure that's how that went, feel free to correct me if I was wrong)
It’s like he unironically didn’t know that he was the people he was commentating about. I think it’s just a lack of self awareness IMO
@Burning Sebastian I love dada, I think it's really fucking cool.
@Burning Sebastian I just ranted about that in an other comment, yet not so properly formulated. Duchamp didn't deserved what they made out of his statement.
@Burning Sebastian oh yeah, great point :)
yeah this film just exploits other peoples pain for shock, it doesn't push back on bourgeosis society
Yeah he was just trying to challenge what was art which is why his idea of just finding an object was so revolutionary. He was questioning what constitutes an artistic object particularly in relation to the elitist artist culture of era which really focuses on relativley realistic figural representations. Also many of the Dada artists were disillusioned by WWI so the act of using a found manufactured object as a piece of art was also meant to comment on modern bourgeois materialism which they felt had led to the war.
That capricorn message voice at the start is hella familiar, but I can't name it. I'll be embarrassed if it's just our hosts voice. I'm new though, this is my first video so not too embarrassed
so I'm an 'art person'. I have a strong appreciation for all kinds of art and enjoy finding deeper meaning within even 'a few sploshes of paint'. While I can really appreciate the creativity in the film it was wrong to compare paedos to people with dwarfism. theres a whole lot of other things they did wrong but theres plenty of comments about them. If they didn't include all these offensive things I would've enjoyed the film a lot. It's a shame that there was so much wasted potential :/ it couldve been such a 'weird' movie and have a deeper meaning WITHOUT being offensive.
'Art people' wake up every day and choose violence, I swear.
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Facts
Why am I getting the vibe that the director/creator of this may have a few fetishes he's forcing us to see?
AGREED
agree he 100% pulled a Dan Schneider
Eduardo Casanoba indeed is a weird guy and the spanish media jokes about this a lot. An example of this is "Paquita Salas" (a fake documentary abour a fictional manager called Paquita) and the moment of about a young actress auditionaning for a movie that he directed and her role was about a girl that literally ate a shit from her boyfriend and tht she was on the phone telling this to a friend (in spanish we have the expression "me he comido una mierda" _I ate a shit_ that means you feel disappointed, but to remark his weird directing and sick comedy, the writers wrote the role as a literal action. It was a funny scene tho). Is quite weird to think about this actor/director: most of the spanish people we know him from his role as Fidel, a gay nerd from an old series called Aida.
Thankfully this movie was a disaster in the cinema
idk maan Casanova is a pretty chill dude in interviews, talk shows and the like (he was a guest judge in drag race Spain and did quite well) but then he pulled this literal shit out so idk what to believe in anymore. i wish we were back in 2010 when the worst we heard from him was the latest adventures his gay incel of a character in a sitcom had
As an art kid and art student, we don't claim this film and nobody in my uni thinks this is actually okay or good. There's a difference between realistically portraying human nature in all its darkness and light and whatever this is supposed to be
This is the first review I've seen of this movie and I'm so glad we all share the same sentiment. Like if I had to sit through this nonsense I'm definitely making my friends sit through it as well!!!! In this household, WE WILL ALL SUFFER !😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Out of all the horrible movies she’s reviewed THIS is the worst one
As an artist, who went to art school, can confirm "Art People" and that they do warrant a trigger warning
I've been an artist my entire life, dabbled in many creative pursuits, and I love your oh-so-concise and eloquent and elegant summation of 'Art People.' Please rant more. I love every second of it.
someone mentions anything Serbian: 😊
It's THE Serbian film: 🤢