Aww, NUTS! MicroJig ZEROPLAY Miter Stop vs. Shopsmith "T-Nuts"
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2024
- SHOP NOTES: Are the MicroJig "ZEROPLAY" Miter Stops a reasonable alternative to the venerable Shopsmith "T-Nut"? Oh, and sorry about all the errors! For example, the Shopsmith T-Nuts are currently $10.89 for a set of four. I think I was thinking about the price with shipping when I said they were $20-21.
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See the SHOP NOTES (Video description) for more info (corrections) and links. Scott
I can't think of the last time I did a project without using the Shopsmith T-Nuts in some form or another. Once you have a few, you find all sorts of uses for them. I assume the Shopsmith T-Nut was introduced with the 505 table system? I guess that is where the mortising hold-down attachment was moved from the threaded hole on the 500 fence to the T-Nut and groove on top of the 505/510 fence. Could be a whole video on the history and many many uses.
That’s a good question, Tom. I’ll have to give it some thought, but it could be a 510 thing. BTW, the 510 predates the 505. The 505 was a stripped-down version, much like the Mark 1 was.
Another option for replacement or longer T slot bolts is to use carriage bolts, very inexpensive at e.g., Tractor Supply. File a bit of each side of the head, perhaps file down the square portion under the head. I have done this to make my own T slot bolts for my jigs. Most of my machines have slight differences in the dimensions of the slot so making my own T bolt allows me to get the best fit for a given machine.
Dave.
Good tip, Dave.
Scott, Thanks for reviewing this alternative. It is always good to have multiple solutions to fit needs.
I agree. Thanks for watching and commenting. Scott
Many, if not most, of your videos are great "ads" for Shopsmith. They should be giving you an affiliate link!
I’m ok just being a devoted fan.
Great ideas! Especially adding a nylon set screw to the Shopsmith T Nut. I am planning on using this specific idea. Have you thought of doing a video on some of your jigs? I would be very interested! Thanks for a great video!
I do intend to do just that, and will likely start them all over from scratch. Many of them have suffered from our numerous moves over the years, so I’ve been thinking about replacing them anyway. Scott.
@@MyGrowthRings Thanks for being open to suggestions for subject matter from your viewing audience!
I like the Shopsmith version. I have a drill press vice I have bolted to a piece of plywood. I then use touts to attach it to the table. Great for when you want to drill at odd angles or if you need to drill small parts.
I totally agree.
At $7 a pop, it makes the Shopsmith T Nuts a bargain! My strategy is to add a 4 pack whenever I'm ordering something else, so I'm building up an assortment over time at a really low cost.
Smart.
Thanks for the info… I use the heck out of my T-slot nuts. You gave me several ways to use them that hadn’t occurred. Tim to grab a couple and play with them!!!
They are a much better deal than I said.
I happen to have a couple of these because they came with a Microjig miter bar I bought recently. Now I know what I'm going to do with them.
Thanks for another possible resource.
I have been using the micro jig accessories for a while. They make great quick jigs.
Yes they are!
A comment unrelated to this video's topic but still Shopsmith related. I think I would have been out of luck if I hadn't had my Shopsmith. I'm currently working on a 12 segment per row vase where the segments are 22 degrees wide, leaving 8 degree holes or windows between segments. My problem was how to reliably keep 240 individual pieces concentric during glueup. I have a Segeasy plate that will locate the 12 segments of one row and needed a glue press with a rotating spindle that can hold a chuck or faceplate. It also needs a horizontal table that is both perpendicular to the spindle axis and does cannot move relative to the spindle axis when the spindle is moved vertically about 15 inches. I can hear the screams now. "You need a Shopsmith in drill press mode, dummy!" and that's exactly what I did. Lining up the center of my locating plate with the spindle was easy with a laser boresight. The other thing I did was to balance the power head with an air cylinder so I could easily move it vertically as my vessel grew from 1" to 20" tall as I added rows.
Nice. Years ago I took a commission to turn two Tiffany-inspired lamp shade molds, which were made from laminated segmented rings of basswood. The largest one was over 20” in diameter and coming up with a method to glue the segmented rings together was the toughest part of the project. The air cylinder is a clever idea. I’d love to see a picture of had you arranged that. Scott
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Interesting take on the T Slots Scott. Like you, I prefer the Shopsmith brand as they are made for what I use. How many are you going to buy over a lifetime will depend on wear and usage. The longevity of them would tell a good story on the true cost over years of usage. Thanks as always.
That's true. I can't imagine the Shopsmith version ever needing to be replaced, but there are a couple scenarios where the MicroJig version might fail. Great point. Scott
Useful, thanks!
Near the end you said cents when you meant dollars.
Yes, I realized that I actually put something on the screen about it, but that somehow got messed up in the edit, so it shows up much later in the video! Lots of errors made!
Well, bless your heart, Scott! This is some good information. I am too busy right now to get out in my shop, but I am looking forward to putting this to use.
Gotta slow down, Mark.
Great comparison. Thank you.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video
You bet
I have been curious about some of the feather boards available from many sources but not willing to spend the money to find out if they would work. While watching this video, it occurred to me that many of these could be used by attaching a couple of Shopsmith Tee Nuts.
That’s a great question. I bet a lot of them would be adaptable.
Could you use an elevator bolt with the flat head and file it down to fit in the T groove? If it works, it would be a cheap alternative, and they can be found at almost any hardware store.
Yes, I’ve actually seen that done successfully. If you’ve got the time and the capabilities with grinders and files, that could be worth the effort. Scott
I find the Shopsmith T-Bolts more useful than the T-Nuts.
Shopsmith “T-Bolts”? Tell me more about those.
Great video. Stick with the original. Lots of engineering went into that little item.
I want to see you do a video about the 10er......
It'll happen.
Can you use the nylon in the miter gauge to lock it down?
In the Shopsmith miter gauge bar? That’s a different size hole and thread, but if you drill and tap a new hole you sure could.
Does the Shopsmith website have a section or catalogue that shows misc items like the T-Nuts? I am sure there are other such as this that would be very helpful if you could find them? I stumbled on then my accident, but have not been able to find them again.
Their current site stinks, but I saw a preview of their new site, which should be live by mid-June. It should be much easier to find these items, which are like a “Where’s Waldo” quest on their site today!
Hi Scott, thank you for all your fantastic videos. I'm just starting out (in the UK) and have managed to get myself 2 shopsmiths with many extras and I'm very pleased with them.
Somewhat off topic of this video but I figure you will check this new video for comments!
The one thing that I am missing is the table saw upper blade protection and riving knife. The only UK supplier I have found sells them for £225 which I think is pretty steep! Do you know of any other brands that would work with this SS?
I do have the Mark V 500 ALLOY Lower Saw Guard Assembly so potentially could mount alternative upper protection to that?
Any advice appreciated.
Matt
Hey Matt. No, unfortunalty the SS is such a unique tool that no other off the shelf guards fit it. The guards for the 510/20 are the best, so those are the ones I would focus on finding. They do show up on eBay all the time, but I would also check shopsmith.com to see what a new set might cost.
@@MyGrowthRingsOK, thanks
Where did you purchase the nylon screw? Our small town local hardware store only carries a nylon screw with a large head.
I didn’t say because I swiped mine from one of the MicroJig stops. I need to find a source, nut I have an idea that I will share in the follow-up vid. Scott
@@MyGrowthRings Thanks!
Sad sound from Mark V 500 users.
Great video!! I waited patiently for the "bottom" line and I'm glad to hear the SS price beats the micro jigs' price. Great idea with the nylon screws!! I'll get some to add to the Shopsmith T-nuts. jim
Now we just need to find a good source the nylon set screws.