SUPERMAN Legacy TEASER Image BREAKDOWN - Hidden Clues and Batman: Brave and the Bold Connections!
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James Gunn releases a new teaser image from the set of Superman that give us a HUGE CLUE about the new movie and it's connections to Batman: The Brave and the Bold.
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But having a murderous moppet in the mansion is going to force Bruce to confront that violent part of himself. Just like, in a meta way, Gunn is rejecting the violent DCEU.
then look at the broader theme of gods and monsters. Each of the new projects are about this thin line. When you have godlike power, all it takes is one mistake to slip up and become a monster. We’ve ever had a superhero franchise like this before, where projects were meticulously planned to tie into a single theme. James Gunn has never made a bad movie, and man am I excited for Superman. He’s my favorite comic book character. It seems like they're gonna honor the tradition of Superman 78 while also modernizing the character and taking him into new directions.
Thanks, Ryan. Keep up the good work!
Superhero landing vs superman theme
The symbol is a mix of kingdom come and the very first superman comic book
"James Gunn has never made a bad movie" -- LOL, are you sure you watched The Suicide Squad
You were talking about Magog. What happened with Magog? "He caused the death..." of what? Of who?
The black in the Superman shield is what he did after either Lois died or he killed someone. So the shield having yellow is still innocent Kal El. He gets the black after loss...
25 minutes on a teaser image is NUTS
There ain't no way lmao. I love this channel but he's been bugging lately.
@@BuckyBarnesATLfor me, breaking down the small details is never an issue, it may be a easter egg you may have completely overlooked. It’s the pie-in-the sky/tinfoil hat theory speculating on the small details that gets me…
@@BuckyBarnesATL yeah but we also gotta understand that the UA-camrs are doing this because we have next to no content this year lol.
Side note: Eric at NR is great but man, he’s soooo performative that’s it’s beginning to become cringey lol
And by content I meant superhero movies/shows. Outside of Deadpool and Wolverine, it’s slim pickings
There are 2 kinds of people.
1. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets
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The Batman/Guy punch would be a CRAZY post credit scene.
why would you save that for a post-credit scene? That's a full-on mid-movie scene.
Did the video just suddenly cut?
Yep
Cliffhangers now on youtube
We got Sapranoed!
yep, too much was on the money so Gunn had it cut short and now holds Doug hostage until Ryan makes a new misleading video to cover it up.
For sure
Words can't express how hyped I am for this film.
In Gunn, We Trust.
I cant wait to see other characters suits like green lantern, hawkgirl , mr. Terrific ,and metamorpho.
Most people just want to know about superman, but the engineer and mr terrific suits will look great and I’m extremely exited to see them😊
I thought Hawkman looked great in Black Adam, so I'm really excited to see Hawkgirl brought to life!
@@Deoxys911 out of all the things black Adam did wrong, the suits were not one of them
Gunn has come out and flat out said Rosenbaum is the best Lex, which I absolutely agree with, and I think he is going to lean a little towards that suave and more maticulous character. He will be calculating and a constant neusance, but will most likely be mainly occupied by his business life. He is young and will still need to grow in that world before he can play some larger role in the Superman story, especially since it'll be so early in him being around.
James Gunn doing superman already had me intrigued. Nick Holt cast as Lex Luther (didn't know til this vid) has got me put right excited now! Let's go!
nick holt was audictioning first for the sups role, y'know?
I just glad to see Camron doesn't look so depressed today. I was actually worried about him but maybe he just looked depressed cos he was reviewing things that he hated lol
Good instinct
@@genznowlive good instinct that you were depressed before or good instinct that you were just reviewing things that you hated? Either way, glad you seem happier :-)
I personally love the Hans Zimmer Superman theme…would love a new theme though. Williams’ is iconic and legendary but maybe a combination of Zimmer and Williams
Never noticed how much Jeff Bezos looks like Lex Luthor 😂😂😂
How about no to the John Williams score? That'll cause confusion to those who don't know the difference, how about they make a new theme inspired by Williams and Shirley Walker.
I wish both Marvel and DC would stop making announcements for so many movies at once. Just announce the movies as they come
Exactly
Damn. Me too.
Superman's true greatest power is that he is not corrupted by absolute power!
Yes please please please use THE BEST Superman theme music ever created!
Metamorpho was such a great character to see in the old Justice League cartoon, you thought it was just a typical villain, but he has this whole multi episode arc that hits the feels. I was surprised how much I liked him and his story.
Plus I forgot Anthony Carrigan aka NoHo Hank is playing him, genius casting cuz u know he can get deep.
This cut off early. Is there going to be a re-upload?
Actually, th-
I trust James Gunn perspective moving forward.
I hope the 90s nipple batsuit makes a comeback. You know, they have neck mobility now and can turn their heads easily..
Since we got the Authority involved.. i think his plan is to actually do Kingdom Come. Like the MCU's Infinity War event, this will be Kingdom Come eventually.
Let's not use the old theme song. People just can't let go
If they do decide to do an older Batman I really hope it’s like a mid/late 30’s or very early 40’s instead of a mid 40’s to mid 50’s version
Well James Gunn mentioned this Batman will have his son Damian & the Bat Family. So we can already say he’s at least 40. That’ll put Nightwing at like 23. So it’s safe to say we will get an actor between the ages of 38-48 and can look younger. Gotta remember that actor will age so it has to be someone who looks timeless, has a track record for longevity & is a law abiding citizen. I’d hate to have a great new actor and all of a sudden he decides to leave or gets cancelled.
@@andrizzle5887 yeah I’m definitely with you on that, Dick Grayson was originally 8 years old when his parents died but in other versions he’s said he was 13 when they died, so let’s say they have Bruce around 25 when he adopts him, fast forward 10 years and somewhere in that timeframe he gets Talia pregnant, maybe even right before he adopts Dick he sleeps with her, that’ll put Bruce around 35 years old, Nightwing at 23 and Damian Wayne at 10 years old, it’s hard to imagine a 10 year old as Robin but in the comics that’s the age he is when he becomes Robin, also those 10 years is enough time for the events with Jason, Barbara & Tim to play out.
Jensen Ackles would be perfect
I have faith in James Gunn and his work. I think he has a real chance at creating a DCU comparable to the MCU. Ref Batman: I really, really wish they would give the Batman Beyond series a try.
Hey ScreenCrush and friends, my personal theory about this Superman movie is that we'll have two teams. One employed by Luthor and the other being led by Superman, a team that kills and a team that doesn't. I think Superman will be the newest up and comer with both teams trying to recruit him. When Luthor fails to blackmail and employ Superman to his team, we're brought to the climax of the teams fighting against each other with the conclusion being the Justice League refuses to kill their opponents and offer them a spot on the team. Luthor ends up in prison where he begins the set up of the Legion of Doom. This could be done very organically with Lois, Jimmy, and Clark reporting different villains being captured/dealt with by Luthor's team and Terrific's team.
My theory: This will be those flashbacks in Kingdom Come where the discussion is between heroes that don't kill and heroes that do. Something will happen, Superman is to late to stop a massacre and after the culprit is apprehended, a new hero appears and executes the culprit. Superman wants that killer hero judged but the public opinion tilts in favor of heroes that kill.
One of the plot elements in _Kingdom Come_ that leads to the gulag breaking down is that *there was never that kind of discussion between the heroes that don't kill and the heroes that do.* The closest thing I can think of to an actual discussion of the merits of Superman's moral code with the anti-heroes is when Captain Comet addresses 666 after 666 gets tired of a holographic recording of Superman talking to the group in the gulag, where Captain Comet acknowledges that everything 666 bragged about was true (such as permanently defeating Eclipso), but that 666 and the other anti-heroes also did tons of crap like shooting at random in civilian populations.
Kingdom Come Superman was basically a what if continuation of the 90s era Superman. Earlier in the story and even in the flashback panels he sported the long hair, ponytail, and classic suit. Plus he was married to Lois. Its her death and Magog’s acquittal in court that makes Superman go into self imposed exile
It's a build of whats about to happen. An image is more than Enough for 25 minutes. If you listen he talks about other projects. A little history and what the direction will lead to. Don't forget these are hard-core fans of the comics and films. Thank you for the refresher and informing me.
1:40 the posters and marketing referred to it as 'The Movie' but in the movie opening credits its just 'SUPERMAN'. So technically i think they share the title.
Man of Steel was perfect!
Imagine the response if a teaser video was released.. we're taking 3 hours minimum. LoL
This speaks to how much people NEED a Superman movie..
James Gunn is creating a new ERA in cinema.
For any form of DC Canon to be in effect in "The Brave & The Bold" Batman / Bruce Wayne has to be "At Least" 35 years old. A meeting with Talia would have been in his "Year One" phase which then Damian could be this, but absolutely any younger changes DC canon which is a poor decision.
If Jensen Ackles isn't cast as Batman it's a travesty.
I disagree with The Superman theme is the greatest super hero theme of all time, I like the X-men theme from the animated series in the early Nineties.
Great synopsis!!
Awesome breakdown!
Heck, Brandon's last shot of the Crisis cross over, the Kingdom Come symbol went from black and red back to yellow and red.
12:00 -GREAT potential breakdown 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
What a cliff hanger
The darkseid disrespect isn’t appreciated
The shield looks awesome!! Love the classic colors with the shield that references the kingdom come Superman I feel like the excising superhero’s in this movie are more closely tied to the outsiders from Jim aparos run in the 80’s?
If gun has an affinity for that time in the comics it also makes sense.
Rachel Brosnahan is the absolutely perfect Lois Lane
THANKS for this!!!!
I think we are going to see the death of Lois, and the transformation into darker Superman. That's only been done in comix and in the old animation.
You mean later on and not in the first movie? No way they kill her off right off the bat.
@@doc8013 right, i'm sure it's in the 10 year plan, i don't think they will kill her off right away.
OMG so good to see Cam!
You guys just really made me want to see Magog kill the Joker on the big screen and see how this new Supes reacts.
Hey you guys!!!!!!
Can’t wait!
When they show the first shot of the snow-covered Superman S, that wasn't the Fortress of Solitude shown next. That was from the planet Krypton.
Great discussion!
A 29 year old Batman?!?! Are you insane?! James Gunn said that the Bat Family would appear and there's no logical way to do that with a 29 year old Bruce Wayne. Bruce didn't even become Batman until he was 26 years old. How could be build the Bat Family in 3 years? If you're right and they give us a Batman who's younger than his late 30's/early 40's I'm not even gonna watch it because that would just be fucking stupid.
It’s just the logo dude. Gunn probably likes this one the best (as I do also). Maybe Supe will have a kingdom come type arch in the future. But right now it’s just the S logo.
Back at the Fortress of Solitude? You think Supes will do battle with a giant spider there? ....I'll see myself out.
lol, if you are making that KS joke. thank you
I thought there was something even more dumb, involving polar bears there.
Does the video cut off early for anyone else?
For everyone else
On the flip side of me definitely not wanting another grimdark Man of Steel, I also don't want them to remake Superman 1979, and if Otis and Tessmacher are in the mix, I worry that that's what might be happening. Not necessarily the case but I wouldn't want to see that.
Can't we do something like Man and Superman to kick things off without starting from Krypton, starting with a Clark who is just starting out in Metropolis and including some of the actual fears and pain early Clark feels in the big city? It's just one comic book so it would need to be fleshed out a bit I suppose.
And also dont forget Brandon Routh wore the Kingdom Come symbol WITH the yellow at the end of the CW Crisis crossover.
Words cannot describe how excited I am
Them going with a version of Kingdom Come for their Justice League and playing with the idea of what it means to be a hero is SUCH a good concept. Here's hoping they actually pull it off.
Seeing the Snyder cult in shambles over this image is funny
Hilarious. They went from saying the symbol looked horrible to saying that Gunn stole Cavill's symbol lmao. They see how much people like it and they can't friggin stand it.
I would like a Superman movie where he loses his powers and has to remain good , not Superman 2 evil Superman, but has to still show people the way and stay helpful fighting injustice with no powers , like Batman. Just a regular guy fighting crime .
"Parody merch" that is a clutch touch right there.
Mr. Terrific is more than an Olympic Level Athlete, he's one of the smartest person in the DC Universe.
James Gunn same as Kevin fiege understand good storytelling, that's why he went from making a low budget horror film to a big budget and more surprised successful early MCU movie and successful movie that no one expected. Then imo every movie and show after that a successful follow through.🤷
So, each movie will be about a super hero or a super villain ? That's a brave new direction that we've never seen.
It's been years since I've felt hype for Superman again 🎉😊😂🎉
I think we are getting a version of "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?"
I'm Not a Hater so please understand I'm not here to trash your reaction But I Hate when anybody says how dark the DCEU was!! Snyder had a 5 movie vision, he wasn't trying to build like the MCU. That's where the WB interference came in. Zack didn't wanna be like marvel and WB did. All the other movies in that universe weren't tied to Zack other than WW and Aquaman. And by the way every DC movie that tried to be like marvel failed ( financially )including Gunn's SS. Marvel is bright. DC is dark. It's always been that way with the exception of Superman. I was at the theaters watching Superman ( Reeve's) and also went to MOS. Loved both and I'm hoping I'll like this. JMO
Tell us you've never read the comics without telling us you've never read the comics.
Sooper.
Now I feel like watching the first Superman movie, not the other 2 that followed after the movie.
heh heh.... I getcha lol
The golden age of the comics were the 60's... The 60's generation really made these heroes what they are today...
Smart because many people ( including myself) Loved Cavill as Superman. David's in a No win situation because this movie will always be compared to MOS. If it's great there will be some that will say yeah but Cavill would of made it better. If it Sucks, oh boy I think this universe is over. Before the Haters start with your Snyder blah blah blah, I hope it's great! I did enjoy the Snyder movies but I'll admit they were darker toned but I'll Never get past how WB did my guy Cavill.
A reverse kingdom come sounds like the world would be a proxy of the snyderverse with different heroes being those edgelord violent guys and Superman being a new kind of superhero, a kinder superhero who end up inspiring them to be better starting a kind of redemptive arc for the heroes already existing in this universe that could be the core narrative for his DC universe. Sounds kinda rad.
for a while i wasn't paying attention to the video, but there is a part right about the middle where the audio and video are not in synch. but good stuff
Fiuuuuuuuuhhhh. The chills I got from hearing the 79 theme again!
I’m excited! I love seeing comic book characters come alive on the big screens! BUT I don’t necessarily want to see what’s been done in the comics.. create new stories so that people won’t be able to compare the comics to a different “universe” which are films
To the point about bringing lesser known characters into it, I wonder if they’re bringing more “disposable” heroes. Like maybe this Superman will be very willing to work with others but then experience the death of some of them and through that loss become more closed off to working with others in the future once we get into Justice League territory.
I just want whatever they produce to NOT feel like a cash grab like a lot of franchises lately.
Beyond that my wishlist for the rebooted franchise is as follows:
1 - Entire Bat Family. I want all the Robins, all the Batgirls, Huntress, Bluebird, Talon, etc heroes to have cameo mentions or appearances as part of a Gotham/Bloodhaven fully realized.
2 - I want a Clark Kent with the morality and maturity of the one we get in Superman & Lois. That portrayal is the most comic accurate IMO to who the man behind the suit really is.
3 - Moments to build to. There are great moments in DC comics that I would love to see realized on film someday for the wider world to enjoy.
a - Batman punching Guy is one.
b - Red Hood vs Batman w/Joker's life on the line is another and it has to include the line "Everyone wins, and yet, everyone still loses!"
c - Superboy Prime vs the DCU where he accidentally kills and loses what little of his mind was left.
d - Superman of Earth one and two against one another, must include the line "You can't be from a perfect world, because a perfect world doesn't need a Superman."
e - Superman Vs Wonder Woman Vs Maxwell Lord when the Lasso reveals the only way to stop Max and WW doesn't hesitate but for a few amazing seconds.
f - Black Lantern story arc with insight into the emotional spectrum of WW being almost all love and Deadshot being almost no colors at all.
4 - Larfleeze. Nuff said.
Ted Lasso + all powerful = Superman.
im calling it now, its gonna be a christmas movie. Lex Luthor is the Grinch and Superman is Cindy Lou Who
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Great vid
Thanks! Do you think the movie is going to be good?
@ScreenCrush Ready to move on from Snyder and didn't care for the Batman, so I'm excited for something new.
Would love Ryan and Doug to talk about FX’s Shogun
I think the whole 2000's Superman Comics will be reference for the film, since they're all about Sups in a cynical world.
- Secret Origins and Birthright for the "fitting in" part (+ For All Seasons)
- Superman Vs The Elite (WSFATJAW) for the Engineer and brutal element...
The trinity with a group of “no names” would be dope
11:34 made me think of this line:
"No one wants to know the man who stands for things we outgrow"
Song: No one likes Superman anymore
Artist: I Fight Dragons
Honestly…if they started with something like a Kingdom Come arc..that would be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
is there a part 2? what just happaned? where is the rest?
I'm so off of DC after what WB did to Zac Snyder and that crew...
Absolutely. They've ruined a lot of things these last 5 years over at WB/DC
But is the movie going to be **good**
4:05 That's Kripton
I would straight up LOVE a Superman For All Seasons adaptation! It gets to the heart of what made Clark a hero.
My theory is simple. the symbol is a legacy symbol from Alex Ross. that Kingdom Come story was about the past the legacy. like a WWE Belt has legacy. I believe the movie will be about Supermans deeds and his greatest chalange yet. so moving forward we will have his legacy
Correction. It's the greatest movie theme of all time. When I first hears Williams' theme. I actually believed I could fly. No other piece of music has ever given me that feeling.
Ryan! It’s Lu-Thor! Not Luther. lol great video
Doug, Please acknowledge this comment!
How about Superman VS. THE LEGION OF DOOM and Superman enlists other Superheroes to help 😳😳😳😳🎉🎉🎉🎉
It would be pretty cool to see a reverse Kingdom Come
Also, Michael Rosenbaum is hands down the best Lex Luthor. He was a beautiful combination of all it. Billionaire, mad scientist, politician.
The problem I had with him is he felt too volatile and not in control. That's one of the things Lex has, supreme control. The only reason I could overlook it is because it was young Lex.
@nobodyknowsforsure I think that is why he was such a good Lex. By season 10, in the finale, he was calm, cool, and collected. Such a great arch.
No Ryan, YOU'RE WRONG! If all it takes is ONE slip up to turn heroes bad they they were never really good in the first place, never really well-adjusted. People who are actually Sane don't just lose it all at in one go, that's not how people function.
How do you make an almost 26 minute video out of 1 picture?
Exactly