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  • @LayedBackGamers
    @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому +34

    I hope you all enjoyed! This is a much less talked about character from the lore that's extremely important. Being a head of NetWatch, fair and just, AND talented? Magnificent Curtis has definitely earned his reputation. Let me know all your thoughts down below and have a great week chooms!

    • @JohnnySilverwrench
      @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому +1

      I'd like to see a basic breakdown of cyberpunk for beginners lol with general information so they can play having to explain all the back story anytime someone ask about it is very tedious tho fun I can't spill all of that shit in a single sitting I have to much ADHD so this would be helpful choom!!

    • @JohnnySilverwrench
      @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому

      Cyberpunk Red Screamsherts for Halloween dlc out now!!

  • @dogsoup5561
    @dogsoup5561 Рік тому +82

    With the help of the Relic and Alt, V is the only person I know that was able to travel pass the Blackwall and return unaltered.. in the PL DLC once finished you get a little extra information from Alt about Songbird.. and the way Alt describes it, Songbird merely just touched the Blackwall and look what started to happen to her.. So once that line of defense is gone, I think it's safe to assume everyone is doomed.

    • @cpl.geckell6355
      @cpl.geckell6355 Рік тому +4

      I’m pretty sure Lucy and the other Arawak’s kids were able to cross as well and it doesn’t seem to have permanently damaged Lucy

    • @dar_dar3655
      @dar_dar3655 Рік тому +11

      @@cpl.geckell6355 Lucy's just lucky. The majority of her runner unit got fried by AI's and the like

    • @khanch.6807
      @khanch.6807 10 місяців тому +4

      It's not that no-one came back unaltered. Most Corpos that are poking the other side have netrunners that scout for useful AIs and tech. Data transfer is not instant beyond the Blackwall. The old net runs on half a century old infrastructure. Rouge AI takes time to notice you. If you are powerful enough netrunner only the super AI will be a threat to you.

    • @orelyosif5852
      @orelyosif5852 10 місяців тому

      And we even have the option to accelerate the process with Erebus/Kanto 6

    • @olknoxlo
      @olknoxlo 10 місяців тому

      @@khanch.6807 That’s not how the cannon explains it, It’s much more vague leading to unknown. They went for Lovecraftian inspiration for what’s beyond the Blackwall, Explaining it in any detail defeats the purpose

  • @brockvinson1712
    @brockvinson1712 Рік тому +21

    Magnificent Curtis was respected and highly regarded by both bartmoss and spider Murphy that says a lot alone Rache bartmoss hated all corporations and corpo for their corruption and crimes but Curtis was the exception

  • @lntercooler
    @lntercooler Рік тому +51

    Here’s hoping the sequel leans more into the net and we’re able to learn more about it bc this is absolutely some of my favorite type of lore

    • @eugeneaubry4308
      @eugeneaubry4308 Рік тому

      The way its all set up i think they will there's just too many mysterious stuff with the net an AI not to dive in. Would love to see Rache an Murphey make an appearance.

    • @thiccmangoman5833
      @thiccmangoman5833 11 місяців тому +1

      That and the whole peralez story line

    • @andrsl1
      @andrsl1 3 місяці тому

      I'm 100% confident that orion main narrative will be about the start of the 5th corporate war but that will just be the beginning and sort of a narrative smokescreen for the true plot, the fall of the blackwall and subsequent ai invasion

  • @majinbobbyhill828
    @majinbobbyhill828 Рік тому +64

    Ive binged damn near all of these recently. I love the lore of this game and the Cyberpunk universe. I had no idea it existed until word of its release a few years back. Looking forward to more lore.

    • @EternalNightingale
      @EternalNightingale Рік тому +2

      Definitely cyberpunk lore has to be my favorite right next Mass effect lore both universes are rich and complex

  • @vectorfox4782
    @vectorfox4782 Рік тому +23

    It seems only NetWatch is capable of understanding the gravity of the threat that the Blackwall represents. Erebus is about to unleash chaos.

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому +4

      Yeah I doubt anyone would feel safe with Cyberware or netrunning if they knew what was REALLY going on behind the scenes

    • @vectorfox4782
      @vectorfox4782 Рік тому

      @@LayedBackGamers that’s what surprises me too. NetRunning by all public should largely be considered illegal due to the severity of the implications. Maybe NetWatch with the help of the government developed Braindances to keep people offline. The next Cyberpunk title will have to address the threat beyond the Blackwall.

    • @ordo_draigo_assault_ham
      @ordo_draigo_assault_ham Рік тому +1

      *BY THE GOD-EMPEROR, FECK EREBUS!*

  • @dukecarraway1762
    @dukecarraway1762 Рік тому +22

    Love your lore videos. Out of all the corps in the cyberpunk universe, NetWatch is the only corp I actually respect. Even Johnny Silverhand sided with NetWatch over the Voodoo boys.

  • @Jester4460
    @Jester4460 Рік тому +7

    Imagine being the guy who was too poor to afford cyberware seeing a bunch of people get Killed by rouge AI when the black wall breaks

  • @briangoubeaux5360
    @briangoubeaux5360 Рік тому +7

    Wow! First we have Morgan Blackhand as a gentleman Solo and now we have Magnificent Curtis showing us the good side of netrunning and at least one aspect of Netwatch. I wonder what paragons of Night City exist in the other roles and who they are?

  • @wunclerlaufenbumcorneliusu7047
    @wunclerlaufenbumcorneliusu7047 10 місяців тому +1

    I’d love to see him in the sequel somehow, even if he’s super old or is shoe-horned plot wise. Granted that Rouge is 80 committing (maybe justified) terrorism, Blackhand is still kicking at over 100, The Arasakas are all nearing 100 (except Saburo) and Militech’s founder only dies recently at 142, I’m sure chronologically speaking he could be alive.

  • @benadrylcumbersplatch6448
    @benadrylcumbersplatch6448 Рік тому +3

    Regarding Bryce Mosley, I think it is very likely NetWatch agents use a common alias while in meatspace, only really using their runner tags while on the net. This way if they get killed in the field, no one can know for sure if they got the runner they wanted, and even if they did, imagine the panic that would ensue when a second Bryce Mosley shows up and is just as good, if not better than the last one!

    • @zeropolicy7456
      @zeropolicy7456 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, but with the introduction of the tech from PL, who's to say who that Netwatch agent really is. I like the idea of it possibly being Curtis, but honestly, if it were really him, I highly doubt Mamon's puny outfit would have given him much challenge.
      The runner we meet in PL pretty much confirms that Briggite is a fool leading a group of idiots that can barely qualify as competent Netrunners. The only reason why the VDB give Netwatch so many issues is because they built their own custom network that's vigilant against outside infiltration efforts.
      The net they built was basically specifically designed to prod the Black Wall for weaknesses while barring access from the general Net. But seeing as how Curtis is basically on par with Rache, I doubt it'd give him much trouble to crack their encryption and shut them down if he really thought they were a threat.
      Honestly, the ONLY reason they got as far as they did is because of the Relic. If it weren't for the Relic, they would have been stuck at the Black Wall forever. Because they're idiots.

  • @Vecna
    @Vecna Рік тому +6

    Absolutely loving your lore videos that go beyond the game, but tackles on all pieces of lore, please keep up the great work!

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому +1

      Glad you're enjoying them choom! I'm glad I've starting honing in more on lore videos, it's something I always wanted to do but focused on theories for a long time. Still got some of those planned as well though!

    • @Vecna
      @Vecna Рік тому

      @@LayedBackGamers I think a healthy dose of both would be awesome, there are a bunch of theories out there, and with Phantom Liberty out, there are a bunch more, for instance, if you take the Canto or Erebus with you during the "Don't Lose Your Mind" gig, there'll be some dialog from it (Not a lot, just like a couple of lines), pretty much confirms that Delamain comes from the Blackwall (As heavily implied by one of the computers in the facility).
      All the same, keep up the awesome work, you have the right voice for it, you got the right pacing too! Can't wait for more content!

  • @workplaydie
    @workplaydie Рік тому +3

    Preem! Loving the new cyberspace/net videos.

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому +1

      Really honing in on the Net right now, kinda fixated on it since there's so much to learn. Especially since it's always been considered the most confusing part of Cyberpunk. Glad you're enjoying choom!

  • @karolwodarczyk8402
    @karolwodarczyk8402 Рік тому +1

    Those videos of Cyberpunk lore really are amazing, I love your content. Keep up the good work LayedBackGamers :)

  • @revan_tega
    @revan_tega Рік тому +4

    Dude congrats on getting more subs

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому

      Thanks choom, I'm really surprised by how fast the channel suddenly grew. Didn't expect to hit 10k till another month or two down the line. I hope you're enjoying all the content!

  • @Rrgr5
    @Rrgr5 Рік тому +1

    Considering how the expansion changed a lot of things, I would've guessed that everyone wants Johnny for the same reason, even Alt herself, and here we come to the endings, spoilers ahead.
    The best possible endings are V giving Alt the means to reach more space in Mikoshi and use Johnny as intended, probably to upgrade the black wall or to get rid of the rabids once and for all, the other endings are the worst possible scenario because it means either Militech or Arasaka got hold of Johnny to do the same thing, so V is literally a pen driver holding a nuke in his head.
    Also, I think the new ending is not exactly what it seems, I think V wasn't in coma for 2 years, it wouldn't walk as easy as showed, I think Militech used V and Johnny to reach beyond the black wall and took the implants so it renders their capabilities to do whatever they made them do, which I think is similar to what they did to Songbird, but this time they learned how to lock V out of the possibilities to do anything.

  • @henrysarson7417
    @henrysarson7417 Рік тому

    Another great lore video. Really do it justice

  • @TheBuster0926
    @TheBuster0926 Рік тому +2

    First.
    Thanks to your channel im gonna know everything about the game before I even buy it! Haha!
    Seriously though the lore is good. And your good at presenting itm

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому

      Thanks a lot choom! Glad I can be a source of information for ya ahead of your purchase. I hope you have fun once you get into the world of Cyberpunk!

  • @CurtisDurden
    @CurtisDurden Рік тому

    Magnificent Curtis you say? I'll have to watch this video.

  • @JohnnySilverwrench
    @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому +8

    Mr. Hands is a fucking G watch red streams makes me appreciate him and the other actors even more!!!

    • @JohnnySilverwrench
      @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому +1

      By hardest to be still a banger as well as choke hold by Idris I look forward to him him as my nemesis/ friend in phantom of you played it right you know you know he won't hunt you down anymore once the facts are literally in front in his face rn he's skeptical which I don't blame seeing how everything is playing an with no insight I would keep my cards lose too .....someone please comment on what they got I feel like I'm spitting facts with no one besides raging and layedback I try to keep everyone and everything envolved!

  • @DatsWhatSheSaid
    @DatsWhatSheSaid Рік тому +3

    Didn't Yorinobu make a deal with Netwatch for that shard? Why would they make a deal with Evelyn for the same thing? I never understood this.

    • @kingclint2382
      @kingclint2382 Рік тому

      They likely know that VDBs are trying to get their hands on it to use Johnny's data and breach the wall, and want to get it first and safeguard it from them

    • @orelyosif5852
      @orelyosif5852 10 місяців тому +1

      No, no, Yorinobu made a deal with Netwatch. Evelyn made a deal with Voodoo Boys. She just wanted to swipe the relic

    • @stipy5916
      @stipy5916 9 місяців тому

      I belive he tryed to sell to millitech,

  • @vincentkeith5259
    @vincentkeith5259 Рік тому +1

    Well crap - I never found that rooftop - have to track it down this run.
    If it's not Brice - then... He still has to be an agent or the Voodoo Boys virus wouldn't have been able to attack all those other agents. My theory - he's not Brice. Some of the team died while attempting to infiltrate Pacifica. The Agent assumed the Brice ID in order to protect his own ID. It's what I'd have done assuming the real Brice had no family.

  • @murdrmittenz9013
    @murdrmittenz9013 Рік тому +4

    @layedbackgamers maybe Curtis soul killed himself and is the black wall itself

    • @4566Iggy
      @4566Iggy Рік тому

      That's pretty wild

    • @JohnnySilverwrench
      @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому

      Well spidermurphy soul killed Johnny bartmoss wiped his own ass out as well so I can see Curtis too to have eternal life in the net possesing bodies sounds rad sounds def like some scifi cyberpunk shit lmfao

    • @joshholden9360
      @joshholden9360 Рік тому

      In the Bartmoss Brainware Blowout sourcebook, for the 2020 TTRPG, there is a program called Emergency Self Construct (ESC, get it?) that works in just that way, a self Soulkiller, so it's entirely possible.

  • @wesley_rueda
    @wesley_rueda Рік тому +5

    Is Bryce Mosley a Rogue AI? Is Evelyn Parker a Corp Agent? Is T-Bug Alive? Why Dexter Deshawn was hidden for two years in Pacifica before come to NC and meet V? i would luv to know the answer for this things hahaha

    • @superiormike1813
      @superiormike1813 Рік тому +1

      T-bug was confirmed dead

    • @Jester4460
      @Jester4460 Рік тому

      Dex like many others hid in Pacifica cause he fuked up
      Forgot what he did but you only go to Pacifica to hide

  • @eugeneaubry4308
    @eugeneaubry4308 Рік тому

    Makes you wonder if song bird was infected with something from barthmoss one of his rapid viruses. Since when it takes over song its very murderous an angry.

  • @thedezzydez851
    @thedezzydez851 Рік тому

    fire video thx for the content

  • @Blinkstrike
    @Blinkstrike Рік тому

    awesome video!

  • @nathanvarnum7437
    @nathanvarnum7437 Рік тому +2

    Ok had no idea about Bryce’s body being found… honestly makes this quest very very intriguing (or at least more intriguing than it already is)
    Now I’m a Cyberpunk lore novice, so I’m not sure if this could even make sense, but what if “Bryce” (in this version the guy we see is not Bryce) is actually Rache Bartmoss? I remember a video talking about his possible survival
    However, one theory that actually popped in my head that makes sense is he could be an NUSA agent using the tech used to take the identities of people. We’ll probably never know though…

    • @MythicRanger2401
      @MythicRanger2401 Рік тому +1

      The most likely theory is that Rache is an AI floating around the net. In the original books, Rache had a program called the Emergency Self-Construct, which was essentially a "cheat death" button. Activating it would instantly hit you with Soulkiller and upload your engram to the net. It's more than likely Bartmoss set up this program as a dead man's switch to save himself.

    • @Forkuh
      @Forkuh Рік тому +1

      @@MythicRanger2401more to this - it’s specifically mentioned that Rache was involved in the recovery of the original soul killer program, so he’d definitely have had access to the software.

  • @MastaKeahi
    @MastaKeahi Рік тому

    Do you think you may do a video or a short on the new dialogue with Alt in the nomad ending? I know it’s not much but it seems like a lot can be derived from it.

  • @NeoIsrafil
    @NeoIsrafil Рік тому +7

    Its cute that this implies that theres any world that exists with true accountability for those with a monopoly on violence and a high amount of power...

  • @JamesBuggemo
    @JamesBuggemo Рік тому +1

    Doesn’t hold a candle to Amazing Larry.

  • @Playerk125
    @Playerk125 Рік тому

    soo intresting thing i notict, you know how you get red flashes from the black wall after contacting with Songbird? well so far i notict to other locals ware i get those rad flashes, after i playd a good bit of phantom liberty. first. the parliz questline, wile you have to look for the hidden room in their flat, you can touch the see threw TV, giving you a red shock, second, the malestrome cyberpsyco, in north side wahtson, near the goldsmith streed fasttrevel, i think CDPR what's to confirm the connections in that regard

  • @itzdcx
    @itzdcx Рік тому

    "God of the NET"

  • @user-gk5mt9ox5f
    @user-gk5mt9ox5f Рік тому

    I wanted know your thoughts on this.
    What do you think happened to the flathead at konpeki plaza? Since it’s militech arasaka may use this as part of evidence for the 5th corporate war

    • @l0rf
      @l0rf Рік тому

      It was officially stolen in case Srasaka brought that up, I imagine. Plausible deniability, I'd call it. Militech can say how good their tech is without having to admit to any direct involvement or simply never mention it unless Arasaka brings it up. If they do, they'll say it was stolen by Maelstrom and used illegally by a third party.

  • @trevv2x
    @trevv2x Рік тому

    Should do one on metacorp

  • @StarchyGuy-g3j
    @StarchyGuy-g3j Рік тому

    Loved the cropped bartmoss on ice lol

  • @Spanners_the_Monkey
    @Spanners_the_Monkey Рік тому

    Loving you channel.

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому

      Thanks choom, I've been workin overtime trying to make content in between Uni and work. Glad you're enjoying!

  • @lordsky4ever
    @lordsky4ever Рік тому

    Thumbnail kind of looks like cyberpunk version of Snoop Dogg 😂

  • @thedezzydez851
    @thedezzydez851 Рік тому

    it would be cool asf if after every lore video you did you lore build for said video

  • @TheMarmboy
    @TheMarmboy Рік тому +1

    Do one of Aguilar next

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому +2

      I tried to dig around for information on him but as far as I've seen, his only mention is Phantom Liberty so far. If I can find more it will definitely be made into a video

    • @asiblingproduction
      @asiblingproduction Рік тому

      Oh, i thought aguilar was a she? I played as femV for my first round, does aguilar change with the V?

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому

      @@asiblingproduction Interesting, yeah my Aguilar was a he to match my male V. Are you saying your Aguilar was a female? That makes things very interesting

    • @TheMarmboy
      @TheMarmboy Рік тому

      @@LayedBackGamers thanks

    • @TheMarmboy
      @TheMarmboy Рік тому

      @@asiblingproduction I played a male version and my Aguilar was a he

  • @lelouche25
    @lelouche25 Рік тому +4

    Netwatch is an interesting fiction to me. Because they're like sci fi ATF. Overreaching far beyond their scope.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Рік тому +1

      Difference is, Netwatch's concerns are legitimate at least

    • @judgedrekk2981
      @judgedrekk2981 Рік тому

      naww naww, more like DIA & NSA combined....
      ATF is guns, and yeah very corrupt but NSA has some jurisdiction on the net as it is and if you want an agency to stay hidden and obscure do you know what the DIA does?? or who they are what they've done?? no I bet, that's cus they've kept out of the limelight unlike other agencies but spycraft, dead drops, meeting in the open, how field agents handle contacts and all that was researched and perfected by DIA.....
      basically if you notice the terms in fallout 4, DIA and tradecraft, the rail signs and the code words, and if you notice what you do in classic Assassins creed, tailing, blending with the crowd, pickpocket, eaves dropping all that was DIA tactics....an agency nobody knows has done more for the spy trade than anyone realizes, CIA get's all the credit and the blame and that's likely how DIA wants it, I bet you a million they're the real spies in this country lol

  • @AngelusNielson
    @AngelusNielson Рік тому +6

    Could Curtis be the guy who you have to decide to side with/for against the Voodoo boys in the old mall? It would make sense...

    • @TheWill383
      @TheWill383 Рік тому

      Placide?

    • @AngelusNielson
      @AngelusNielson Рік тому

      @@TheWill383 It's been a while, but yes. I mean he did seem unusually friendly for a netwatch agent.

    • @l0rf
      @l0rf Рік тому

      ​@@AngelusNielsonplacide was the Voodoo Boys bouncer/Lieutenant, not the netwatch agent.

    • @AngelusNielson
      @AngelusNielson Рік тому

      @@l0rf I was talking about the guy in the theater who talks with you instead of trying to kill you.

    • @l0rf
      @l0rf Рік тому

      @@AngelusNielsonThen that's Bryce Mosley. Doesn't come up much in game.

  • @gabopenav
    @gabopenav Рік тому

    Preem!!!

  • @RagingRobotz
    @RagingRobotz Рік тому +5

    Yooooooooooooooo

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому +1

      Sup choom!

    • @JohnnySilverwrench
      @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому

      What's good chooms how did y'all enjoy playing so far and how's your move raging?! Any luck of deciding a dog?

    • @RagingRobotz
      @RagingRobotz Рік тому +1

      @@LayedBackGamers Sup Choomba hows life treating you u seem busy all the time lol can't hang with ur chooms that often jk but fr hows life

    • @RagingRobotz
      @RagingRobotz Рік тому

      @@JohnnySilverwrench Choom I'm still waiting to get approved there was a family in front of me we might not get it 😔 and no house means no dog

    • @JohnnySilverwrench
      @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому

      ​​@@RagingRobotzbruh 😂 man been saying schoolwork and he recently moved too lmfao he's been a busy choom then on top of making the vids he's a busy choom!! Shit shouldn't you be trying to catch on phantom so we can have a Convo?!😂😂😂

  • @JohnnySilverwrench
    @JohnnySilverwrench Рік тому

    Real life graphics suck and there's major fall damage doesn't matter if you're just cutting a rug ...my ass needs to hop back on the game lmfao 😂🎉

  • @kylemcneal7856
    @kylemcneal7856 Рік тому

    love the content man but i still don't get how you pronounce so much shit so weird. mostly names. "mawsley" naw dawg, its mOsely hell i'm pretty sure the dude introduces himself in the game. same as with shaitan's name. it gets pronounced for you in game, how you still messin up. regardless. love the vids. glad you're getting into the source material and not just making speculative vids about things in the game or the cartoon

    • @LayedBackGamers
      @LayedBackGamers  Рік тому +1

      Glad you're enjoying the content choom, and honestly it's just because I don't usually pay too much attention to pronunciation till it's too late. So characters talked about less, I tend to get it wrong then realize too late into the video process. Do these in between uni and work so I'm nearly always exhausted unfortunately.

    • @kylemcneal7856
      @kylemcneal7856 Рік тому

      @@LayedBackGamers i understand the uni work grind. i'm in it myself. still love the content, love the channel. hmu if you ever need ideas for videos, i have all the tabletop sourcebooks