The Net in Cyberpunk is a fascinating, but also dangerous realm to venture into. The possibilities for Orion will be endless. I'm so excited to see what CDPR will cook up next. 🥰
@Randiezorzorzor That is false. Mike Pondsmith and his company R. Talsorian Games, gave CDPR the license rights to his Cyberpunk I.P. Phantom Liberty is the final expansion to Cyberpunk 2077. Mike Pondsmith is the creative consultant on his I.P. They are switching to Unreal Engine 5 to develop the officially announced Cyberpunk sequel codenamed Project Orion. Preproduction on the sequel starts in 2024 with the entire team that worked on Phantom Liberty.
The Net is one of the most confusing things in the Pondsmith’s world so I’m really glad you laid it out here. I’ve been binging your cyberpunk videos for the last few days and it was a treat to see this pop up in my recommended. (Also I’d love to see videos on the regions of the old Net)
I love this old school cyberpunk view of the internet back in late 80’s and 90’s. It’s almost like realworld internet protocols merged with virtual reality interfacing instead of hypertext and a dash of tron-like visualization of frameworks and programs. Great video, thanks for deep diving into this awesome aspect of this game’s lore.
I love these videos. I used to play the 2020 edition of of Cyberpunk, and it's been glorious to revisit all the lore I once knew. Hands down the finest lore videos about this universe I've seen. I'll be sad when the Cyberpunk well runs dry.
The Cyberpunk well won't never run dry. There's sooo much stories you can tell from this universe. The possibilities are endless. Then again, Star Wars had so much potential but was put in the WRONG hands, and now it's in shambles. But I trust CDPR (the Devs, not the management 😂) to continue to tell great stories. Love this deep dive video. I needed to learn more about the history of this universe 👍
i’ve spent the last month really getting into cyberpunk and i’ve been enamored with its depiction of the net as a concept- how similar it seems to the real-world internet at a glance and how deep the rabbit hole goes- thank you so much for these lore videos! they’ve really been a great help with learning more about this world
I think these dystopian stories give way too much credit to humanity. Tech won’t destroy us in the way they always suggest. What we’re doing now will. Customisable reality, where you can believe whatever you want and live life through the filter of your phone, where others who think as you do will tell you what you believe is true and everybody who disagrees is a threat to you. We’ll eat ourselves before tech eats us
@everberon, yet again you drop an eloquent and preem in-depth breakdown of lore from the infamous world of Cyberpunk. Thanks for taking the time to drop these and provide all the detail in a way that's easy to digest. You're building a wonderful CP encyclopedia for us. We thank you choom, keep up the work, damn NOVA!!
Great video! There's so much detailed world building and lore in both the ttrpg and 2077. Not a lot of creators have gone into depth about it, so its nice to see videos like this one.
found your channel looking for more information on Bartmoss and have been binging your stuff since! love these deep dives and would absolutely love a closer look at the 2020 net. the distinct regions and their aesthetics sound fascinating.
As I'm currently preparing for my Cyberpunk RED game that I'm GMing, this video has been INCREDIBLY helpful for me to understand the very confusing lore surrounding The NET. Thank you!
Thank you, finally a good source of how the net works. I was trying to gather as much as I could from just the game as I've never played any of the table top games. I manager to gather the net was farm more chaotic than the internet protocols we see irl. The only thing that I never quite managed to decipher is how rogue AIs work. Where were they "hosted" so to say. Apparently there's actual abandoned machines giving them this power, something you'd be unlikely to see with real life counterparts of things like server farms and such.
Another amazing lore vid. Honestly made me regret siding with the Voodoo Boys twice in my playthroughs. If I do a third, will definitly side with Netwatch next.
Ever since I created Erebus and started using it. I have had netwatch on my tail. Kind of cool that they are following the Blackwall traces that you leave behind on unfortunate victims.
I feel like the game should've gone more in depth on the transition back to the I/G protocol. There's a lot of nuance in the Time of Red with its Citinets, but I'm sure we'll learn more about it in a later sourcebooks. Great content you got going here choom, might be cool to talk or collab sometime!
Yo, its so cool to see you in the comments of one of these vids! You have some fantastic content! Would love to chat and/or collab. I have an email linked in the channel's about section if ever you want to reach me! There definitely are a lot of things related to the net that I hope we see expanded upon in upcoming materials. The late 2040's - late 2060's are definitely one of the lesser understood areas of the canon for sure... Maybe it's time for a Rache Bartmoss' Guide to the Net style book in Cyberpunk Red?
@@everberon I guess it's a question of what they do for the edgerunners mission kit. If they just leave it at that or begin to move into the era rather than skipping past 2077. I definitely hope we get multiple books to tidy up that time period. I'll make sure to use your email to reach you choom!
amazing video just found your channel recreantly after Phantom Liberty. I do particularly really like the free cam cinematic shot you show, im curious what mods do you use to capture that free cam shot or is it just the ingame photo mode?
People keep hiring NPC netrunners, or otherwise don't want to be a guy strapped to a chair when the shooting starts. Pondsmith: Well I could just emphasize the importance of deploying large programs on-site using a cyber deck, and make the chairs more of a high-end tool you use mostly out-of-combat for your various lifestyle endeavors. Buuuuuut... here me out. What if, instead I just nuke the net out of existence, and make the chairs a death sentence outside of a city-net.
Waht blows my mind about the setting is that the AIs beyond the Blackwall and the Blackwall itself exists on servers, servers that run on electricity, electricity that is produced on generator stations that exist in the physical world. What I'm getting at is if these AI are so fecking dangerous that Net watch had to build an even more powerful AI in the form of the Blackwall keep them more or less reined in, why not just kill them all by cutting the power?
Someone discussing Cyberpunk 2077 without neglecting it‘s TTRPG roots!? - SUBSCRIBED 💜 I‘m really looking forward to the 2077 expansion for Cyberpunk RED (Edit: Hopefully we‘ll get expanded Netrunner Rules - Cyberpunk RED‘s Netrunning, while fast and easy felt like they made up an in-world explanation to excuse „dumbing down“ the Net)
Sorry, I'm a little confused lol So between the Rabids infecting the old net, and the introduction of Citinet and the blackwall or whatever to regain some sort of access to the net, was there just, no sort net usable to connect devices? And what did all the netrunners do during that time? Were they just like, an extinct group until the creation of the blackwall? Like, I thought it was pretty much entirely unsafe to access the old net as a netrunner, but there was no alternative until the blackwall? Sorry, I think I missed something lol.
A) brain damage from massive stimulus/electric surge to the brain-cyberdeck interface and B) not directly, but could attack/hack vehicles and any online systems around the non augmented person to malfunction in lethal ways.
Many of the servers are actually in space in Cyberpunk. Orbitsville is a big part of that whole mess, but that is a big part of the reason why the old net is pretty much impossible to fully shut down.
You're right. I'll put it in the description for future ppl as well, but it is the accoustic version of Pon Pon Shit from the Body Heat radio station if that helps.
Damn watching this only having watching edgerunners hella makes me feel like a boomer watching an explanation of the internet, like, you did a great job, but I'm still not sure I actually got it lol
I'm so confused right now what are you guys talking about. I'm so curious about the world building of cyberpunk 2077 I looked it up and looks like thares more things I didn't not expected this is so new to me. (can anyone give me a book like a guide to where should i start reading to the point where the game is? Like V and devid and stuff).
The one thing that I don't understad that where are the servers and coputers where the data of the Old NET? It must be stored somewhere, all the data and the rogue AI must exist in a physical/real world hardware. Why not just search that and destroy them and with them the very dangerous AI like the one who infest So Mi and try to kill V in the Cynosure facility. Is this explained somewhere why we can't do that or is it a plothole?
The thing is, though he didn't do it with any good intention.He did it because he thought it would be funny. He was a total misanthrope.He hated humanity and his own existence. In a lot of source books it said that race was one of the most obscurely insane unhinged net runners Quite literally the joker only on the net
Almost all people who makes Cyberpunk lore videos today forget that Cyberpunk is OLD. You have a lot of works, like Gurps Cyberpunk, which depicts a whole basis for the cyberpunk that is foundational and common for many later developments. Cyberpunk universes are fundamentally different from our reality much more than just specific tech. It has evolved differently. Johnny Silverhand for example had his "silver hand" since long before 2023, when he died (differently in canon than the story he tells you in cp77), and for that to work, you need tech in 2023 that must be of advance that we cant have TODAY, long before the 2000s. Despite what Elon Musk might make you think, you CANT control a prosthetic limb through you mind or a brain implant today. All the supposed "experiments" they show are gimics. He is not the first, MIT has archives on such neuroscience gimics since 1990s, when people placed sudo probes in paralized peoples' brains and claimed they would control those prosthetics from that, or chemical inducing implants to mimic as if a rat would be "seeing" through camera implants. All that is to say: For Johnny to have a fully functional guitar playing "silver hand", tech would at least 4 decades ahead of TODAY in cyberpunk's 1993. Which it is, if you know the source material.
I hope this video helps shed some light on the Net and it's history. Thanks for watching, and let me know what else you all would like to see next!
Thanks choom!
Biotechnology in Cyberpunk could be an interesting topic. We know a fair amount about cyberware, but what about wetware?
@@LexYeenthis
Great series of lore videos!!
The Net in Cyberpunk is a fascinating, but also dangerous realm to venture into. The possibilities for Orion will be endless. I'm so excited to see what CDPR will cook up next. 🥰
Yes indeed! It's going to be quite exciting to see how they approach it in the future!
Didn't cdpr lose the contract to continue doing cyberpunk content? Heard phantom liberty was gonna be their last entry of cyberpunk 2077
@Randiezorzorzor That is false. Mike Pondsmith and his company R. Talsorian Games, gave CDPR the license rights to his Cyberpunk I.P. Phantom Liberty is the final expansion to Cyberpunk 2077. Mike Pondsmith is the creative consultant on his I.P. They are switching to Unreal Engine 5 to develop the officially announced Cyberpunk sequel codenamed Project Orion. Preproduction on the sequel starts in 2024 with the entire team that worked on Phantom Liberty.
@@Randiezorzorzor bro Google will give more answers than Einstein, IF you’d only use it.
@@RealLifeRodger ok mr Internet Explorer xD
How Mike Pondsmith came up with all this is absolutely beyond me. Dude grew up but never lost his childhood imagination.
The Net is one of the most confusing things in the Pondsmith’s world so I’m really glad you laid it out here. I’ve been binging your cyberpunk videos for the last few days and it was a treat to see this pop up in my recommended. (Also I’d love to see videos on the regions of the old Net)
I love this old school cyberpunk view of the internet back in late 80’s and 90’s.
It’s almost like realworld internet protocols merged with virtual reality interfacing instead of hypertext and a dash of tron-like visualization of frameworks and programs. Great video, thanks for deep diving into this awesome aspect of this game’s lore.
Net region video would be sick! keep it up
It's almost scary how many real world parallels there are...sort of. I've always loved the idea behind the net in cyberpunk.
It really shows off what real life computing was like in the last 35 years as Mike Pondsmith wrote up the original books.
Finally!! someone made a video explaining the net's story. 'been waiting for this one for ages :)))
Glad I could deliver! Sorry for the wait 👍
@@everberon naaaah, don't be. I'm just glad you did it, and it was awesome 👊 keep it up
I Found the Luetin09 of Cyberpunk lore. Subbed.
I love these videos. I used to play the 2020 edition of of Cyberpunk, and it's been glorious to revisit all the lore I once knew. Hands down the finest lore videos about this universe I've seen. I'll be sad when the Cyberpunk well runs dry.
Won't be dry for some time, luckily, haha
@@everberon music to my ears. Keep it up!
The Cyberpunk well won't never run dry. There's sooo much stories you can tell from this universe. The possibilities are endless. Then again, Star Wars had so much potential but was put in the WRONG hands, and now it's in shambles. But I trust CDPR (the Devs, not the management 😂) to continue to tell great stories. Love this deep dive video. I needed to learn more about the history of this universe 👍
i’ve spent the last month really getting into cyberpunk and i’ve been enamored with its depiction of the net as a concept- how similar it seems to the real-world internet at a glance and how deep the rabbit hole goes- thank you so much for these lore videos! they’ve really been a great help with learning more about this world
its terrifying how realistic this is, I would say give it 50-100 years and we would be a copy of this universe.
Not even that long. I'd give it 25-30 years.
@@glory2cybertronYeah that's more realistic.
something intangible such as the net will never affect our physical world, even if our version of the 'net' got advanced
everything you see,hear,touch,taste are mere electrical signal .... and the brain interprets it as real. now can this process be simulated or faked?
I think these dystopian stories give way too much credit to humanity. Tech won’t destroy us in the way they always suggest. What we’re doing now will. Customisable reality, where you can believe whatever you want and live life through the filter of your phone, where others who think as you do will tell you what you believe is true and everybody who disagrees is a threat to you. We’ll eat ourselves before tech eats us
Thank you for beeing one of the only youtubers to make good cyberpunk videos
@everberon, yet again you drop an eloquent and preem in-depth breakdown of lore from the infamous world of Cyberpunk. Thanks for taking the time to drop these and provide all the detail in a way that's easy to digest. You're building a wonderful CP encyclopedia for us. We thank you choom, keep up the work, damn NOVA!!
Fire, as always. A deep dive on the 2020s net regions is something I didn't know I needed until now. I'd like comment and subscribe tf outta that vid
Please keep these videos coming, You're easily my favorite for cyberpunk videos
Great video! There's so much detailed world building and lore in both the ttrpg and 2077. Not a lot of creators have gone into depth about it, so its nice to see videos like this one.
Id love to hear more about the old net!
your cyberpunk videos are so good, i enjoy them more than any others here on youtube.
found your channel looking for more information on Bartmoss and have been binging your stuff since! love these deep dives and would absolutely love a closer look at the 2020 net. the distinct regions and their aesthetics sound fascinating.
Net regions sound super cool I definitely want more content about them
Thank you! I love your lore videos about the entire series and even your theories! Please keep it up !!!
Grats on the 10k Subs bro!
Thank you!
As I'm currently preparing for my Cyberpunk RED game that I'm GMing, this video has been INCREDIBLY helpful for me to understand the very confusing lore surrounding The NET. Thank you!
Breaking down each net region would be a pretty cool set of vids.
Thank you, finally a good source of how the net works. I was trying to gather as much as I could from just the game as I've never played any of the table top games. I manager to gather the net was farm more chaotic than the internet protocols we see irl. The only thing that I never quite managed to decipher is how rogue AIs work. Where were they "hosted" so to say. Apparently there's actual abandoned machines giving them this power, something you'd be unlikely to see with real life counterparts of things like server farms and such.
thank you. struggling to get into the game but the world and lore are deep.
Another great video, no bullshit straight to the point details. I'm looking forward to your next video
It's this channel's best quality. He respects our time. Respect the dude for it
As a Cyberpunk Lore junkie, this was a fantastic video. Keep up choom, youre going places!!
thanks so much for this series! your explanation of the lore is helping me understand the lore a lot better. please keep up the good work :]
Now I’m intrigued I need to research this further I guess
Binging your lore helps me get through my 9-6 job, thank you
You got it haha, glad you like it!
Great video, and i would loved to see a video about the 2020 ret regions, that is part of the lore i dont know to much about!
Hey so it would be wicked dope if you did a video about each net region, just saying lol
Another amazing lore vid. Honestly made me regret siding with the Voodoo Boys twice in my playthroughs. If I do a third, will definitly side with Netwatch next.
Ever since I created Erebus and started using it. I have had netwatch on my tail. Kind of cool that they are following the Blackwall traces that you leave behind on unfortunate victims.
You wanted a comment about the netregions, so here it is: please tell us more about the netregions!
I feel like the game should've gone more in depth on the transition back to the I/G protocol. There's a lot of nuance in the Time of Red with its Citinets, but I'm sure we'll learn more about it in a later sourcebooks.
Great content you got going here choom, might be cool to talk or collab sometime!
Yo, its so cool to see you in the comments of one of these vids! You have some fantastic content! Would love to chat and/or collab. I have an email linked in the channel's about section if ever you want to reach me!
There definitely are a lot of things related to the net that I hope we see expanded upon in upcoming materials. The late 2040's - late 2060's are definitely one of the lesser understood areas of the canon for sure... Maybe it's time for a Rache Bartmoss' Guide to the Net style book in Cyberpunk Red?
@@everberon I guess it's a question of what they do for the edgerunners mission kit. If they just leave it at that or begin to move into the era rather than skipping past 2077. I definitely hope we get multiple books to tidy up that time period.
I'll make sure to use your email to reach you choom!
Just discovered your channel, I love your cuberpunk stuff!
amazing video just found your channel recreantly after Phantom Liberty. I do particularly really like the free cam cinematic shot you show, im curious what mods do you use to capture that free cam shot or is it just the ingame photo mode?
I use a mod called freecam/noclip which can be downloaded from Nexus Mods, as well as one other custom plugin to remove the UI. Hope that helps!
@@everberon ahh thank you very much
Well made video!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
The 2020 net series sounds so cool plz make it
People keep hiring NPC netrunners, or otherwise don't want to be a guy strapped to a chair when the shooting starts. Pondsmith: Well I could just emphasize the importance of deploying large programs on-site using a cyber deck, and make the chairs more of a high-end tool you use mostly out-of-combat for your various lifestyle endeavors. Buuuuuut... here me out. What if, instead I just nuke the net out of existence, and make the chairs a death sentence outside of a city-net.
U need to explore the net much more and show us everything. It is a fascinating topic in the cyberpunk universe
Our world needs a Rache Bartmoss
No it does not. He was a sociopathic asshole that unleashed armageddon.
Great video
Yes please more about the 2020 net scape and some onion speculate would be cool
its interesting that CYBERPUNK being rpg
Netrunners would be magicians
When Net Regions are sort of Astral Planes ;)
As a gm, please do a more in depth vid of the 2020 stuff
Waht blows my mind about the setting is that the AIs beyond the Blackwall and the Blackwall itself exists on servers, servers that run on electricity, electricity that is produced on generator stations that exist in the physical world.
What I'm getting at is if these AI are so fecking dangerous that Net watch had to build an even more powerful AI in the form of the Blackwall keep them more or less reined in, why not just kill them all by cutting the power?
Someone discussing Cyberpunk 2077 without neglecting it‘s TTRPG roots!? - SUBSCRIBED 💜
I‘m really looking forward to the 2077 expansion for Cyberpunk RED (Edit: Hopefully we‘ll get expanded Netrunner Rules - Cyberpunk RED‘s Netrunning, while fast and easy felt like they made up an in-world explanation to excuse „dumbing down“ the Net)
Bartmiss (yes intentional) should have been dealt with way earlier. What a shame that he forked humanity over
Nice
Epic pfp lol
Sorry, I'm a little confused lol
So between the Rabids infecting the old net, and the introduction of Citinet and the blackwall or whatever to regain some sort of access to the net, was there just, no sort net usable to connect devices? And what did all the netrunners do during that time? Were they just like, an extinct group until the creation of the blackwall? Like, I thought it was pretty much entirely unsafe to access the old net as a netrunner, but there was no alternative until the blackwall?
Sorry, I think I missed something lol.
How can a person be killed in cyberspace? Also, can the AIs harm a person who has no cybernetic augments at all?
A) brain damage from massive stimulus/electric surge to the brain-cyberdeck interface and B) not directly, but could attack/hack vehicles and any online systems around the non augmented person to malfunction in lethal ways.
@@palapeura375 that…makes a lot of sense! Thanks bro!
I was wondering the same thing.This explains a lot
I just wonder where the physical server is, it's not like the internet is something that exists in the air in our world.
Many of the servers are actually in space in Cyberpunk. Orbitsville is a big part of that whole mess, but that is a big part of the reason why the old net is pretty much impossible to fully shut down.
i would simply turn off the computers running the old net
Impeccable solution
why is Brazil's net region the worst bro 😭
All the MMO players 😂
You forgot to credit the outro music.
You're right. I'll put it in the description for future ppl as well, but it is the accoustic version of Pon Pon Shit from the Body Heat radio station if that helps.
Is there any explanation for how the old net survived? Like what hardware is it running off?
Satellites mostly according to early sourcebooks.
@@everberon cheers bud
Damn watching this only having watching edgerunners hella makes me feel like a boomer watching an explanation of the internet, like, you did a great job, but I'm still not sure I actually got it lol
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I'm so confused right now what are you guys talking about. I'm so curious about the world building of cyberpunk 2077 I looked it up and looks like thares more things I didn't not expected this is so new to me. (can anyone give me a book like a guide to where should i start reading to the point where the game is? Like V and devid and stuff).
The one thing that I don't understad that where are the servers and coputers where the data of the Old NET? It must be stored somewhere, all the data and the rogue AI must exist in a physical/real world hardware. Why not just search that and destroy them and with them the very dangerous AI like the one who infest So Mi and try to kill V in the Cynosure facility. Is this explained somewhere why we can't do that or is it a plothole?
Personally believe that rash even though he had good intentions made things worse
The thing is, though he didn't do it with any good intention.He did it because he thought it would be funny. He was a total misanthrope.He hated humanity and his own existence. In a lot of source books it said that race was one of the most obscurely insane unhinged net runners Quite literally the joker only on the net
Uhm no netrunners died during the data crash even spider murphy was plugged in during the crash and witnessed the fall of the old net.
Almost all people who makes Cyberpunk lore videos today forget that Cyberpunk is OLD. You have a lot of works, like Gurps Cyberpunk, which depicts a whole basis for the cyberpunk that is foundational and common for many later developments. Cyberpunk universes are fundamentally different from our reality much more than just specific tech. It has evolved differently. Johnny Silverhand for example had his "silver hand" since long before 2023, when he died (differently in canon than the story he tells you in cp77), and for that to work, you need tech in 2023 that must be of advance that we cant have TODAY, long before the 2000s. Despite what Elon Musk might make you think, you CANT control a prosthetic limb through you mind or a brain implant today. All the supposed "experiments" they show are gimics. He is not the first, MIT has archives on such neuroscience gimics since 1990s, when people placed sudo probes in paralized peoples' brains and claimed they would control those prosthetics from that, or chemical inducing implants to mimic as if a rat would be "seeing" through camera implants.
All that is to say: For Johnny to have a fully functional guitar playing "silver hand", tech would at least 4 decades ahead of TODAY in cyberpunk's 1993. Which it is, if you know the source material.
14:51 CSGO and TF2.
>european burjes
>burjes
>burgs?
>burjes.
Wow, there is quite a bit of American propaganda in these stories.