How to Win a Hardcore Nuzlocke in Pokemon Red/Blue

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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  • @naughtyleroy2673
    @naughtyleroy2673 Рік тому +889

    I really love your content lately. As a dad, watching these once the kids are in bed is something I look forward to. Now you’re considering Nuzlocke, I’d love to watch you to a randomised Nuzlocke. This why you have to play on your feet all the time. It’ll be fun, anyway, thanks a lot for content bro!

    • @ProWeltfrieden
      @ProWeltfrieden Рік тому +14

      I think this would be really fun.

    • @calvin8857
      @calvin8857 Рік тому +27

      Ha, I just show my 9 month old son. He thinks this is the dankest shit ever.

    • @PointedHeels1
      @PointedHeels1 Рік тому +3

      Ahaha literally me every night the last week

    • @guessowii
      @guessowii Рік тому +17

      @@calvin8857 ill take things that never happened for 1000

    • @JigginsTV
      @JigginsTV Рік тому +13

      Preach it brother! As a fellow dad I can testify one of my favourite things to do when my son is in bed is to chill out and watch Jrose on UA-cam

  • @ProWeltfrieden
    @ProWeltfrieden Рік тому +81

    This month is the best month

    • @Streetcleanergaming
      @Streetcleanergaming Рік тому +2

      December is great and right after the worst one too

    • @luckypennybenny
      @luckypennybenny Рік тому +1

      Been a nice watch every day

    • @anarchopiecrust
      @anarchopiecrust Рік тому +1

      I really appreciate these videos. Been having a rough time and Jrose is making this period so much better.

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta Рік тому

      Lots of episodes to sleep to!

  • @Ilsezwarts
    @Ilsezwarts Рік тому

    Your content is so consistent, but I love that you're still willing to try stuff out

  • @edwardgray6167
    @edwardgray6167 Рік тому +1

    I believe that most of the difficulty of a nuzlocke comes from the knowledge or lack of knowledge of a particular game.

  • @nicolosantone7965
    @nicolosantone7965 Рік тому +1

    I am here wondering if i will ever find love and jrose is here to cheer me up, thanks man, it means a lot.

  • @Yuna-hz5wh
    @Yuna-hz5wh 10 місяців тому

    I find that regular nuzlock runs can get quite stale given a lot of the same pokemon you can expect to catch. I personally much prefer a randomized nuzlock run. It takes out almost all the planning and leaves you with just a fun adventure. Would highly recommend you to try in the future.

  • @byzantiphile7630
    @byzantiphile7630 Рік тому

    You sold me with Fire Emblem Pokemon.

  • @slitzmcduse
    @slitzmcduse Рік тому

    One way to make it fun you can only heal your pokémon with items you find or buy. And the only time you can go to I poke a center is after beating a gym leader.

  • @bongosmcdongos4190
    @bongosmcdongos4190 Рік тому

    I wonder if it would've been more fun without the dupes/species clause?
    I also wonder if yellow would be more fun

  • @redxraider0613
    @redxraider0613 Рік тому

    Wouldn't Bulbasaur the best starter as you have type advantage for the first 2 gyms, and neutral for the 3rd? It also evolves faster to its 3rd stage.

    • @sonielwhite9405
      @sonielwhite9405 Рік тому

      Also the water starter is never the best option in a nuzlocke (except maybe Saphire, Ruby, Smaragd) since there are many easy options for good water Pokémon.

  • @CCCeramics
    @CCCeramics Рік тому

    Ever think about doing randomizer nuzlockes?

  • @hackclaces
    @hackclaces Рік тому

    21:50 ooooooooooo cliffhanger

  • @antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232

    The thumbnail looks like you're doing a gen 2 damageless run. Can't tell why, though.

  • @theeorigin4651
    @theeorigin4651 Рік тому +280

    As a lay out for nuzlocke rules, there are 3
    1. One encounter per route/area
    2. Faint = death
    3. Nickname everything
    Dupes clause and whiteout=reset are general rules which most players play with (although the reset rule is cruel to beginners)
    Hardcore rules
    1. No bag items except pokeballs in battle
    2. No overlevelling
    3. Play on set mode

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno Рік тому +1

      for gen 1 im pretty sure it also includes no intentional use of the badge boost glitch as well, its ok if you gain its effect due to something the opponent does, but you arent really allowed to do it yourself. of course, you can use stats boost for the intended stat, but not for something like using amnesia for speed boost.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Рік тому +11

      @@marcosdheleno Amnesia is pretty busted in Gen 1 to be fair. It's a double Calm Mind essentially even without accounting for the badge boost glitch.

    • @zuthalsoraniz6764
      @zuthalsoraniz6764 Рік тому +13

      And in Gen 2 and later, another commonly used clause is Shiny clause, i.e. if you encounter a random shiny (the red Gyarados does not count), you are allowed to attempt to catch it even if you have already gotten your encounter for that route.
      Also I guess a kinda implicit exception to the rules would be that if you get so unlucky as to not have any encounter that can learn a HM you need to progress further, you are allowed to catch a HM friend solely for the purpose of using HMs.

    • @MrJobocan
      @MrJobocan Рік тому +9

      @@marcosdheleno That's dumb though, considering, if you're using amnesia for the special boost, you're still getting the speed boost. So what's the actual in-game difference? "Oh, yeah, totally wanted a special boost, yup"...

    • @Cream147player
      @Cream147player Рік тому +29

      I’ll always see “nickname everything” as optional as it has zero impact on gameplay.

  • @noahbaden90
    @noahbaden90 Рік тому +7

    I do think you sell yourself short as far as game knowledge, at least for the early gens. Yeah PC, Wolfy, and the other hard-core Pokemon players might know damage calcs and have more experience in the later games. But you've done 80 odd solo runs of R/B/Y plus the crystal and emerald challenges. You've put in just as many reps in to these games as anyone has, and your game sense and mechanics knowledge reflects that.

  • @matthewpopow6647
    @matthewpopow6647 Рік тому +108

    I think one of the things that makes you a "Great Poketuber" is your in depth yet still casual style. You provide a lot of dense information in a easy and entertaining way. You could possibly do other games if you get passionate about them because the thing that keeps me watching is your presentation.

  • @TheDeadGunslinger
    @TheDeadGunslinger Рік тому +14

    Honestly, due to your solo run series, where you have broken down how to consistently win every fight, you could easily take the information from those, to be the healla best gen 1 nuzlocker.

  • @bugcatcher8989
    @bugcatcher8989 Рік тому +26

    Keep up the awesome work Jrose, this has truly been a special month. Like I said before each day has gotten better and better! It’s going to be hard to top this month for sure!
    This video gets the OG Bug Catcher official stamp of approval! 👍

  • @Saylin021
    @Saylin021 Рік тому +20

    As someone who only does nuzlockes, a 'casual hardcore nuzlocker' is a perfect description for what I do as well. Bringing in calcs and EV training is not fun to me, but hardcore rules are good haha

  • @AnemoneEnemy
    @AnemoneEnemy Рік тому +22

    I want to see nuzlockes where whiting out isn't a loss. You keep going and until you dont have any pokemon left. This way you have to use your B and C teams. I think it would really open up a lot of new pokemon and strats because usually a persons first team to white out is their best pokemon.

  • @YukeWeiss
    @YukeWeiss Рік тому +23

    Ok I'm not a big Nuzlocke guy but this may have been the best way to present this run. Analysing how the game is to Nuzlocke and weaving your results in really worked well :)

  • @errorfilenotfound
    @errorfilenotfound Рік тому +41

    Amazing you really upload a video every. Single. DAY!
    Love you JRose! Keep on going ❤️
    Edit: also please play the Crystal clear romhack and make bunch of crazy videos about it ❤️❤️❤️

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Рік тому +1

      Polished Crystal > Crystal Clear 😋

    • @errorfilenotfound
      @errorfilenotfound Рік тому

      @@priestesslucy3299 you told me first about this romhack and I studied some videos. So what does it make worth playing in your opinion and what are your personal highlights if it's not too much to ask!
      Best greetings 🙌

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Рік тому +1

      @@errorfilenotfound It's basically: What if Crystal was made in Gen 6/7 with lots of love and unrushed development.
      Clear has its Open World gimmick which is cool, but Polished Crystal is a better game as a whole. it's far more.... _polished_ 🥁

  • @rooislangwtf
    @rooislangwtf Рік тому +7

    3:11 To clarify the duplicate clause is optional to give you more team variety and doesn't say you can't catch duplicates, just that you have the option to re-encounter that's why it's called a clause. A lot of people either misunderstand / misinterpret the it as a rule where you can't have any dupes when it was initially just made so that people wouldn't end up with a team full of pidgeys thanks to bad encounter luck for example.

  • @amq3922
    @amq3922 Рік тому +6

    It would be really cool if you do a nuzlocke for every gen game from red and blue till sword and shield and then rate them like in terms of difficulty, fun, time, amount of deaths lol.(maybe only do it until sun and moon since they have speed up)

  • @rehelm3114
    @rehelm3114 Рік тому +2

    YOUR FACIAL EXPRESSION AT THE END WAS PRICELESS AHAHAHA!! (also I'm upset you didn't name your pokemon, shame on you)

  • @SodonaBalalaica
    @SodonaBalalaica Рік тому +2

    Jrose today: Guys stop it I am a casual gamer I barely do anything I just press some buttons casually
    JRose 6 days ago: So I got this Weedle and I'm gonny beat the crap out of everyone with it and it will only take like 100 hours let's goooo
    Loving the month of JRose keep them comin 👏👏

  • @ebenuke
    @ebenuke Рік тому +13

    Keep up the good work, Jrose! Much love to you, and your editors too!

  • @metaphysical6926
    @metaphysical6926 Рік тому +4

    For anyone who wants to nuzlocke gen 1 (hardcore or normal), a good thing to keep in mind is that crit chance is based off your Pokemon's base speed. So faster Pokemon crit more often. Also Venusaur is a great option as razor leaf legitimately almost always crits (regardless of speed from my experience). Pokemon like Raticate are extremely valuable early game for this purpose. Same with Pokemon like Jolteon, for another example.

  • @ilovemywife89
    @ilovemywife89 Рік тому +7

    Thank you for all of this content Jrose! Don't burn yourself out!

  • @priestesslucy3299
    @priestesslucy3299 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for acknowledging that by default, nuzlocks aren't defeat=gameover.
    So many people just assume it because most content creators use it

    • @tewu8257
      @tewu8257 Рік тому

      Because that rule makes sense? The Nuzlocke Challenge is supposed to be centered around permadeath after all.

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Рік тому

      @@tewu8257 It is centered around permadeath.
      When your whole team dies, they're all dead. You lost some good friends, but it's time to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, grab that abandoned pidgey out of the PC and try to make it work

    • @tewu8257
      @tewu8257 Рік тому

      @@priestesslucy3299 well the way i see it is when the character "whites out" its like dying in a normal video game. Nevertheless i can see the appeal in saving the run with pokemon you normally wouldnt use, so your ruleset also makes sense

    • @priestesslucy3299
      @priestesslucy3299 Рік тому

      @@tewu8257 I can't remember a time it's actually happened, but I do accept Gameover in a Whiteout vs a wild Pokemon.
      No Pokemon to protect you means you done got eaten lol

  • @andrewzeshypikamander1120
    @andrewzeshypikamander1120 Рік тому +31

    Please do these more, I would love to see more of this in your signature jrose style

  • @OmegaTyrant
    @OmegaTyrant Рік тому +2

    The first (and so far only) Nuzlocke I ever did was of Yellow, and even keeping the Pikachu for the whole game, using no items, and playing on Set, I only ever lost a single pokemon (a Drowzee early on), and that's with Yellow's boss trainers actually having some semblance of thought put into their movesets. You're right that Gen 1 is just too easy without even farther restrictions, and you're going to end up with mostly the same pokemon every time because there's so little variety in what appears on each route. A randomizer to shake up the wild encounters is probably necessary at the least to make a Gen 1 nuzlocke remotely interesting.

  • @unfortunatelyevil1767
    @unfortunatelyevil1767 Рік тому +3

    I am a huge fan of doing randomized nuzlockes (or wonder trade nuzlockes in new games). Also, I inadvertently add an additional rule, which is no using Boxes. Once I have 6 in my team, that's it until a space opens~

  • @powwowken2760
    @powwowken2760 Рік тому +3

    Personally I think the "challenge" part of Hardcore Nuzlockes is often overstated regardless of generation.
    It's why so many people throw in additional rules like mono-typings,
    Or they run Kaizo games where rather than playing a Pokemon game they're basically just rolling a needlessly complicated and tedious slot machine to get the encounters needed to even make the run possible.

  • @terribletrivium
    @terribletrivium Рік тому +39

    To make it a bit more interesting, I usually do "no grinding" and "no AI abuse" as additional rules. Being underleveled is more challenge but in R/B there's not much challenge to begin with.

    • @scoobiusmaximus9508
      @scoobiusmaximus9508 Рік тому +35

      How would you even not abuse the AI in gen 1? It's so bad it abuses itself.

    • @fluffybug229
      @fluffybug229 Рік тому +7

      To be fair a hardcore nuzlocke does restrict grinding by inputting a level cap for every gym leader.

    • @menderbug1
      @menderbug1 Рік тому +1

      @@scoobiusmaximus9508 hahaha that's what I was thinking. The "good AI" essentially makes some battles unlosable unless you go out of your way to screw yourself over

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 Рік тому

      I know from my own personal challenge runs, if you play Red/Blue/Yellow with a team of 6 and you can never beat wild Pokemon, you normally have a team of around L.45 by the end. So it's not too bad, but definitely not easy if you use weak Pokemon.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Рік тому

      @@fluffybug229 It does to a point. If you go in underlevelled, if your Pokemon is super good, it'll come out the other side.

  • @MrAskmannen
    @MrAskmannen Рік тому +3

    Nuzrose forgot the most important nuzlocking rule: You have to give a nickname to all your mons!

    • @tewu8257
      @tewu8257 Рік тому

      Thats the least important rule lol

  • @Lybrel
    @Lybrel Рік тому +1

    This is hands down the worst run you've ever done. Dugtrio, Squirtle, Haunter, Magmar, Vaporeon, Bellsprout (Weepinbell). We don't even see the starter until the Elite4 so how is it a speed run? Don't ingest all the "as a dad" comments. This run made ni sense

  • @stompingpeak2043
    @stompingpeak2043 Рік тому +1

    I do nuzlockes but I'm not super anal with the rules. If I'm over leveled by a level or two it's fine or if I accidentally kill the first encounter I'll just look for another one of those mons. Although I'm not a UA-cam creator.
    Also usum is the hardest run I've done with vanilla games. It's very difficult. The endgame is almost impossible unless you really plan for it. I failed that run like 40 times until I beat it.

  • @bigjonny13
    @bigjonny13 Рік тому +9

    A randomizer nuzlocke in Gen 1 shakes things up quite a lot. I did one in Yellow, and the amount of times I ran into a Mewtwo that wiped most of my team (either wild or via trainer) was horrifying.

  • @geraldtoaster8541
    @geraldtoaster8541 Рік тому +1

    "I dont even want to talk about Bruno" yeah because WE DONT TALK ABOUT BRUNO NO NO

  • @buenvidanadz1969
    @buenvidanadz1969 Рік тому +1

    In HC, it's also standard that using items during a battle besides Pokéballs and held Items (though it doesn't matter in Gen 1 anyway) is not allowed.

  • @R0KURU
    @R0KURU Рік тому +4

    More of these, Jrose? Also.. you’re putting out videos so incredibly quick! I haven’t been around in a while and am surprised to see you’re putting out tons of videos :) got a lot to catch up on

    • @heywhatup9657
      @heywhatup9657 Рік тому +3

      he’s doing a month of daily uploads (somehow)

  • @Faude18
    @Faude18 Рік тому +1

    You can get infinite rare candies from abusing the missigno glitch once you got surf and fly. No cheating in rare candies involved :P

  • @DJCReptiles
    @DJCReptiles Рік тому +2

    Why did it take me so long to notice all your thumbnails are reminiscent of the original gameboy game packaging? That is so awesome!

  • @nathanielgrey4091
    @nathanielgrey4091 Рік тому +1

    I did a Nuzlocke on Blue. The girl with the Jigglypuff before Mt Moon ended my run. I felt like a failure.

  • @jotarokujo3603
    @jotarokujo3603 Рік тому +1

    "I'm not speedrunning but I do want to beat it as fast as possible."
    Yeah that's called speedrunning.

  • @FlintsInfernape
    @FlintsInfernape Рік тому +1

    I did this challenge with retires where I'd play through every game Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, etc. But if I beat the game with the pokemon, I would retire them and they'd be unable to be used in future playthroughs. Feels much more strategic and not so much relying on good encounters because even with good encounters, I don't necessarily want to use them in the first game they're available. I want to be able to use kadabra/alakazam (I play with allow impossible evos randomizer setting without actually randomizing any encounters) further down the line. So for Red I retired Golem, Fearow, Ditto, Omastar, Butterfree, and Machamp. Pokemon you don't really want to get as encounters or be forced to use in future games. For Blue I retired Dodrio, Beedrill, Parasect, Electrode, Seaking, and Hypno. Again, not really great pokemon after generation 1, especially electrode. Then in Yellow I retired Kingler, Tauros, Sandslash, Dewgong, and Venomoth. Who do I have left after this? Gengar, Alakazam, all 3 starters, Lapras, Golduck, Starmie, Gyarados, Nidoking and Nidoqueen, Dugtrio, Pidgeot and Raticate (the early game can be brutal if you retire all of the route 1 pokemon) Hell, with retiring Butterfree and Beedrill, I'm always guaranteed a pikachu in Viridian Forest, so Misty will never really be an issue. Definitely agree that the difficulty jump into Johto is very hard. The encounters just aren't there.

  • @arkbuble
    @arkbuble Рік тому +2

    The overleveling clausd is very interesting in gen 2, since the kanto gym leaders are weaker than the e4 you always have to make a new team at that point, for me that is very funny.

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 Рік тому

      Honestly, I just lift the hard cap in Kanto, because it gets really silly otherwise. Admittedly, I also set the E4 cap to the Champion’s level most of the time, since you don’t usually gain THAT many levels in the Elite 4 when using a full team, maybe 2 levels _total_

  • @BigTymerz2009
    @BigTymerz2009 Рік тому +1

    Tears in my eyes seeing an evolved Poliswag 🥺🥺🥺

  • @Galvis76
    @Galvis76 Рік тому +1

    You should definitely try some kind of Playthrough of Pokémon green, just to see the old sprites and the differences between red and blue (US)

  • @Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU
    @Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU Рік тому +2

    Loving all the content from recent videos, is something I eager want to watch after work and before going to bed

  • @HaydnG266
    @HaydnG266 Рік тому +2

    Gen 1 - Voltorb/Electrode, Magnemite/Ton, Vulpix, Vileplume, Seel, MissingNo. Let's see it

  • @silentbobfan32
    @silentbobfan32 Рік тому +3

    What I think would be a cool and unique challenge for you would be "generational nuzlocke". See how many nuzlocke playthrough you can beat in a generation if the species clause carries over with each new attempt. That's 4 potential runs in gen 1, one for each starter. It would put your knowledge of Pokemons capabilities and planning to work, make it a lot more challenging because you would need to conserve Pokemon, and would give you a lot more opportunities to make us a new video

    • @ReecePlaysDrums_
      @ReecePlaysDrums_ Рік тому +1

      Chaotic meatball is doing that right now! Except instead of just the generation, it's every main game in the franchise. It's been a great series so far

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Рік тому

      @@ReecePlaysDrums_ The problem with that is, red, blue, yellow, fire red, and leaf green. That's 4 games to be done with only 3 pokemon. It's mathematically impossible to complete that challenge without fudging the rules a bit. This is true for kanto, johto, hoenn, sinnoh, unova, and alola. 6 out of 9 regions.

    • @ReecePlaysDrums_
      @ReecePlaysDrums_ Рік тому

      @@dontmisunderstand6041outside of initial mandatory battles before catching your first Pokémon, not remotely, he's gotten to black and white 2 already

    • @ReecePlaysDrums_
      @ReecePlaysDrums_ Рік тому

      Check it out, it makes for a great watch

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Рік тому

      @@ReecePlaysDrums_ That's the point I was making. Fudging the rules at points to make the challenge work is mandatory. In this particular case, it also challenges the integrity of some significant portions of some later runs, potentially. It's not much of a challenge to do your 5th gen 1 nuzlocke when the first "real" encounter doesn't exist until mt moon, and thus you can just use whatever. Especially when Brock is generally the biggest wall to any gen 1 nuzlocke. You have to explicitly avoid routes in order to not cheese the ruleset, directly counter to any strategic decision-making. This is even more true when you remember that you have already ruled that you are allowed to skate by with illegal pokemon if you can't have any legal pokemon yet.
      Idk, it just makes more sense to have a strict ruleset that you CANT break. Otherwise it opens up too much question about whether you've actually done the challenge you set out to do. If I were to do that challenge, I'd probably stick to 1 set of each pair, then the 3rd game (if it exists), just to make it so you do not break any rules, ever. Always having a legal pokemon circumvents any arguments about the validity of the run, and makes the strategic decisions on which routes to avoid in certain games seem less like actively trying to cheat and more like impactful strategies.

  • @nebben6470
    @nebben6470 Рік тому +1

    I was about to sleep but Jrose posted so obviously I have to watch it

  • @Willingmess
    @Willingmess Рік тому +2

    Ooh, now this is an interesting new idea for a video! I’m really curious to see what tips and tricks you’ll have for us!

  • @Darkington
    @Darkington Рік тому +1

    Ngl it's a little disappointing that you don't follow the unwritten 3rd rule of Nicknames. It's always a little more tragic to lose a Pokémon that you named and I'd argue it keeps in spirit with the original Nuzlocke run and comic that inspired the Challenge.

  • @sheeesh2131
    @sheeesh2131 Рік тому +1

    Jrose teasing fire emblem?!?!?!?! 😅😅

  • @verdibyrd
    @verdibyrd Рік тому +1

    Jrose you should totally take on the Emerald Kaiso challenge! I've been doing runs myself, it is a very hard but very fun and fair game, you would enjoy it a lot i think as would your fans ☺

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Рік тому +1

      I think that's a fair description. Emerald Kaizo is hard but fair, whereas Radical Red is intentionally unfair.

  • @rboss5919
    @rboss5919 Рік тому +1

    Fun fact for those who might not know: Snorlax is even more useful in Nuzlockes than in casual playthroughs. Having a mon that is bulky enough that it can almost always safely switch in and gets recovery is insanely useful in a Nuzlocke.
    Chansey and Blissey are considered even more broken for their insane HP+Special Bulk to the point that they're often banned.

  • @alexiosneophyte6532
    @alexiosneophyte6532 Рік тому +1

    I would absolutely love to see you nuzlocke all of the gens WITHOUT items !

  • @Lebon19
    @Lebon19 Рік тому

    Usually, nuzlockers will play with everything randomized: ground items, encounters, starters, trainer pokemons, TMs, pokemon can learn any move & level-up moveset randomized, etc... That's because they think that vanilla games are boring so they spice things up. Of course, if you are interessed and just want to get your feet wet, doing it in a vanilla game with a cartridge of yours lying around, is probably a good idea. And, yes, it can get very technical and that's why I don't really like nuzlocke either. Nuzlockes just feel like putting shackles are my wrists and I hate it.

  • @JacktheRah
    @JacktheRah Рік тому +6

    There is an optional rule which allows for infinite rare candies to avoid grinding. With the level cap it prevents cheating.
    Edit: I now see it being mentioned in the video. Technically it is possible to get infinite rare candies with a cartridge through gameshark devices. Anyways I think what might be a middle ground would be to allow yourself 5 rare candies between every gym leader and before the elite 4.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Рік тому

      If anything with Rare Candies you save time for the sake of losing out on Stat Experience. And it's possible to do it without a cheating device though not until later in the game.

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 Рік тому

      I feel like rare candying misses the point: it’s about Pokémon TRAINING, not Pokémon BATTLING. If you can just press a button to instantly get all of the moves and stats you want, it kind of defeats the entire purpose of playing the single player campaign rather than playing something like Pokémon Showdown. That’s not a knock on Showdown, either, that’s just me saying that Nuzlocking without leveling up naturally is kinda… like playing Pokémon without ever needing to think about training a weak Pokémon up: kinda boring

  • @alantremonti1381
    @alantremonti1381 Рік тому +1

    "Look at the expression" loool!

  • @utdhoighicynvlkbughuovhobohb
    @utdhoighicynvlkbughuovhobohb Рік тому +1

    Man, I just finish a hardcore nuzlocke of red and you basically condense my experience down into 22 minutes. Slowbro sweep the majority of the end game with surf, psychic, and ice beam. The mostly free haunter make the snorlax a free catch with night shade that hit normal type, being immune to its only move, and hypnosis to abuse the broken sleep mechanics. Cloyster just sweep the eight gym with surf and snorlax easily beat sabrina with strength. It's certainly an experience, even though I prefer the remakes for many reasons, including less jank and more storage. It's still worth trying out.

  • @asamatteroflaw570
    @asamatteroflaw570 Рік тому +2

    You are the f****** MAN!!!!!

  • @DarkSouls2545
    @DarkSouls2545 Рік тому +1

    Thank you jrose11 for doing this challenge. I've never done a nuzlocke before and it was interesting seeing a person with no experience doing this run. Also day three asking if physical chansey is possible. Thank you for another amazing video.

  • @michaelthem3
    @michaelthem3 17 днів тому

    I love these runs.
    Years subscriber, but I have not commented in a lot of time, so I wanted to say that.
    I'm like a month or so, just re-watching U run through Red/Blue with whichever Pokémon UA-cam wants to suggest me to watch hahahahaha you're almost making me want to record videos like this in Spanish. 🥴

  • @salemmetal6433
    @salemmetal6433 Місяць тому

    Yeah gen 1 is too broken and primitive to be any difficult especially if you are very familiar with the quirks. A perfect example is haunter or gengar. Theyre some of the best E4 pokemon with tbolt and psychic. Cant be touched by Dewgong, sweeps bruno and agatha, then sweeps lance since it 1 shots Gyarados, cant be touched by aerodactyl (can be confused ig) and the other mons spam agility. Also it can be used against lapras since it will just spam confusion. You basically need 5 mons for the champion (Gengar can even help you there since its not like rhydon or pidgeot can really do anything to it). The game balance is just super off and thats just one example i was thinking of

  • @gian323
    @gian323 Рік тому +8

    Love the Gen 1 series! Any thoughts on doing a Kaizo Blue run?

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Рік тому +2

      You wouldn't be able to hardcore it.

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Рік тому +1

      @@ShiningJudgment666 Yeah, Blue Kaizo takes no prisoners

    • @gian323
      @gian323 Рік тому

      Yeah yall are right. I just really wanna see him play it lol

  • @SemperSmash
    @SemperSmash Місяць тому

    Loved hearing you talk about how you play the game. Perfectly captured why I don't enjoy watching speedruns. They're too perfect. You actually play the game like it's meant to be played. It's really great to see your real time thought process instead of just going through the motions.

  • @frodofranz
    @frodofranz 11 днів тому

    My home rules were i have to use rare candy immediately. and any revives that are found in the field allows me to "save" pokemon who faints. but i like to randomize the games so i usually lose anyway. lol

  • @MLPIceberg
    @MLPIceberg Рік тому

    Doupes Clause is not a hardcore rule- same with Species Clause which is basically you can't catch a Graveler or Golem if you caught a Geodude, even if it's dead by that point of time. In fact there isn't any real hardcore rule for Hardcore Nuzlockes. Not even a Level Limit set to the current Gym Leader's highest-level Pokémon you have to face. I've never heard of the Whiteout rule though despite getting the gist of it. I have no idea where this "Hardcore" part came into play for naming your run a "Hardcore Nuzlocke". It's just "Nuzlocke".
    Another nitpick. If you're picking and choosing Pokémon to catch during your 'Locke Challenge, then it's no longer a Nuzlocke. The whole point of a Nuzlocke is to keep you on your toes and out of your comfort zone i.e. not playing with your favorite Pokémon every run. Don't ever call your runs Nuzlockes if you're gonna intentionally get rid of the RNG element of encountering Pokemon- especially ones you don't like using. Same with sacrificing Pokémon. Don't do that. Cgeating in Rare Candies is also very bad and nulls your "Challenge Run".
    EDIT: You'd be surprised with how often a Starter Pokémon will die in a Nuzlocke Challenge. Don't overhype Starters. Same with Legendary and Mythical Pokémon, if they're ever allowed.

  • @jhonviel7381
    @jhonviel7381 Рік тому

    Chess hasn't been updated in almost 200 years and it's obvious the devs have abandoned it. The greedy creators took your money and laughed all the way to the bank.
    I remember back in 705 AD when chess was fun. Then they started adding stupid features no one wanted like "Castling" and "En Passant" instead of listening to player feedback and fixing game-breaking bugs. I've been complaining for YEARS about the collision-detection glitch with the horsey. The "clipping-thru-pieces" bug has been abused to death and the lazy devs refuse to fix it.
    Don't support this awful behaviour and boycott this company.

  • @thomaspatnode7053
    @thomaspatnode7053 Рік тому

    Hard-core nuzlocke is why I stopped playing Pokémon. My friends convinced me to do a blind nuzlocke when Black and White came out, I was super big into 4th gen competitive UU, but these killed the fun for me. Honestly the worst part is nicknaming the Pokémon. Come up with a cute name for Pansage? I'd rather not.

  • @marcosdheleno
    @marcosdheleno Рік тому

    "how tedious it would be" if that's the case why do it? hacking rare candies to me kills the run. its diferent from something like a solo level, where it really has no real risk, in a nuzlocke your decision making IS THE MAIN POINT. so taking away the punishment for badly leveling, and rushing, defeats the purpose of the run.

  • @Kite403
    @Kite403 Рік тому +1

    Love the video! Always fun to watch Nuzlocke challenges. I'm not the best at them, but I do enjoy them now and again

  • @moonrabbit99
    @moonrabbit99 Рік тому +1

    Totally agree about using calculators. Takes the fun out of it! Glad I'm not the only one :) Again, keep up the great work ☀️

    • @tewu8257
      @tewu8257 Рік тому +2

      How does using calculators take out the fun? Nevermind the fact that they are required to beat any moderately hard challenge, it seems like most people here just click a move, close their eyes and pray that either they kill the opponent or the opponent doesnt kill them. Where's the fun in relying purely on luck? Using calculators gives you control of the situation and allows for fun and gimmicky strategies.

    • @moonrabbit99
      @moonrabbit99 Рік тому +1

      Idk, but I've watched some other UA-camrs, and it really seems like they're overthinking and taking too much time with calculators. Also, crits still play an element luck. Of course, if it's your thing, then that's cool, but for me, I like to play by using my own guesses of how much damage can be done. Just my personal preference :)

  • @joshualocke7551
    @joshualocke7551 Рік тому

    gen1 is one of the easiest games to nuzlocke by standard “rulesets,” since magikarp, eevee, dratini, abra, and lapras are all gifted to you. Granted, dratini requires grinding to make good, but all you have to do is catch ONE Pokémon to replace him. The ideal teams in this game can be made without catching a single pokemon.
    Plus you can get a guaranteed lvl 6 mew encounter if you know the glitch, and a little luck gives you nidoking or nidoqueen.

  • @staffan-
    @staffan- Рік тому +2

    Woo, exiting that we are exploring new topics!
    I have done a few nuzlocke runs (in gen1) and managed to win, but my problem is that I normally let my pokemon get close to 0 hp before healing, and it is hard to get used to healing more often.
    Also, my personal house rule is to release the starter before battling Brock, I feel like they are too powerful to make it feel real. Adding to that, no new pokemon can be caught if I have a full team. Other than that, during battle, only status altering items are allowed.

    • @tewu8257
      @tewu8257 Рік тому

      Those are some weird rules... Choosing a team of 6 pokemon best suited for the next important fight requires a lot of skill. Only having 6 pokemon at a time delets that skill part of the game and makes the quality of your team way more random.

    • @staffan-
      @staffan- Рік тому +2

      @@tewu8257 I do it for my own enjoyment, and I personally don't think it is fair to have a huge team of pokemon to chose among. The point of a Nuzlocke to me is to be forced to play with pokemon you normally wouldn't pick. It also helps in making the game more difficult, you cannot cherrypick the best pokemons. Plus, it makes it more exciting once a team member goes down, what will be the replacement? But to each their own!

    • @tewu8257
      @tewu8257 Рік тому

      @@staffan- sure i undestand that. Although i think there are better ways of nerfing/making your team more interesting, like only using unevolved pokemon or pokemon of a certain type.

  • @truegamerking
    @truegamerking Рік тому

    So
    Another channel is running a nuzlock of the entire series (normal nuzlock but cant repeat pokemon in different games either), but is using a ruleset I'm not the biggest fan of (ex, choosing encounters for routes and not counting the entire evolution line mainly), along with the fact that I just like your commentary more, I'd really enjoy seeing you do something like this eventually.
    I know you said you're not much of a normal nuzlock fan, but that could put a different spin on it.
    Just throwing some ideas out there. Either way, I've really been enjoying this month, keep it up.

  • @komododragon5846
    @komododragon5846 Рік тому

    Tried to HC nuzlocke speedrun crystal. Got 7 badges in 1h33min real time at 4x speed but then barely lost to the houndoom at top of radio tower. Skipped a bunch of trainers and basically no wild grinding. Fun attempt though.

  • @rawbebaba
    @rawbebaba Рік тому

    So I just finished a nuzlocke on fire red, it was easier than I thought, next time I will use a rare candies cheat. There's just so much grinding. I did have a bit of luck early that let me get through. I got Pidgey,(I caught a doduo to replace Pidgey but that tanky bird just never died made it all the way through elite 4) then Mankey, then Rattata. Weedle in the forest, but on the way to mt moon first encounter is Nidoran female. So that pretty much got me through the early game. Like I said though oh my next one I will use some rare candies, there's just soooo much grinding you have to do. Idk maybe it will be less fun but I don't think so I think it will just cut down on the monotony

  • @marcustulliuscicero5443
    @marcustulliuscicero5443 Рік тому

    Oh god he nuzlocked Gen2. Gen2 is awful for nuzlocking. Johto pokemon are trash (notable exception not withstanding), the midgame is a slog to end all slogs, and the leveling curve is trash.

  • @MrMetalBUGG
    @MrMetalBUGG Рік тому

    Surely 100% of viewers who played gen 1 and still watch Pokémon content know exactly what a hardcore nuzlocke is?? Am I being really ignorant

  • @keebs5780
    @keebs5780 Рік тому

    personally i think this is the easiest set of games in the series to hardcore nuzlocke. AI protocols are incredibly rudimentary and easy to abuse, trainer movesets suck horrendously cause they just use level up movesets (with exceptions to like, one move on gym leaders and e4 members), plus trainers rarely have items and if they do, they don't know how to use them. any psychic type is an instant-win button (and I mean ANY psychic type, enemy trainers have nothing to deal with them).
    i did a poison only hardcore nuzlocke of red (so the typical, one enc per route, level caps, no items in battle, etc) and the game was a joke. the only two battles i lost pokemon in were against the silph co rival and the champ fight... and only because of alakazam. ultimately as long as you aren't getting outsped and one shot by the AI actually picking a good move (rare due to stat exp buffing your stats to hell) you can pretty confidently beat these games with no deaths
    that being said, i love how insanely janky these games are. they have a level of charm to them and theyre really good for repeated playthroughs due to being so short.

  • @insanebluefin3234
    @insanebluefin3234 Рік тому

    im not a huge fan of nutzlocke runs, because its literally just a grind fest: grinding 6 pokemon to the level of the next gym leader, instead of overleveling 1 pokemon, zero strategy. thats literally all your doing, making the playthrough take longer to complete, how fun. personally i think if you wanna replay the games again for fun, do a speedrun, at least then there will be progress. and every run will be different. (somewhat)

  • @kaimasters1325
    @kaimasters1325 Рік тому

    Yup ... The SET mode is what's make this game insanely hard as a hardcore nuzlock.
    No wonder why You said it is easy ....
    IT IS NOT

  • @questrequested9171
    @questrequested9171 Рік тому

    how would the level cap work in gold/silver? Pryce's (7th gym) pokemon are higher level than Jasmine's (6th gym)...

  • @Soumein
    @Soumein Рік тому

    I don't want to tell someone how to play their game, but I feel like NPC given pokemon either count toward an area limit, or could be skipped. Eevee for instance could compete with a game corner trade, or fishing spot.
    But of course, how you want to play is the right way.

  • @Kev.in1997
    @Kev.in1997 Рік тому

    Nuzlockes don't reward patience
    It rewards strategy, game knowledge and adaptability
    Let's take pc for example
    He doesn't grind
    He uses rare candies so he can focus on his strategy and increase his game knowledge

  • @dozingclip5243
    @dozingclip5243 Рік тому +1

    Your breezy style keeps each video novel, it's quite the peaceful vibe.

  • @papasalvo
    @papasalvo Рік тому

    Small correction to ur understanding/explanation of a rule.
    The no Dups rule doesn't mean you can't have any of the Pokémon in that evolution line. Only that you can't catch the same Pokémon again so technically you could catch a pidgey and have it die then on the next root u find a pidegot u could capture it. Or some people used it as a way of saying u can't have multiples of the same Pokémon in ur party at the same time but u can catch it on any route u run into on it.
    What you're referring to with not catching any of that Pokémon evolution line is called the "Species Clause" now whilst these are often used together in tandem they don't have to be because some folks will ignore species clause.
    There is an additional rule which is shiny clause where any shinies u fund are free game to catch even if it's not the first encounter. I like this rule alot but it's. It often used

  • @Kanbei11
    @Kanbei11 Рік тому

    For my part I'm fine with rare candies. You don't get stat xp with them so they're not as good as trained pokemon. But I do understand that mindless grinding increases the odds of losing a Pokémon.
    More than that I've no interest in telling you how to play the game and you should play what's fun for you.

  • @Nesque
    @Nesque Рік тому

    I frankly feel people who hack in rare candy's in "challange runs" are being completely disingenuous. Part of what makes the nuzlock's difficult is just that tedious feeling when you've leveled for half a day going "Do I really wanna get that extra level or do I want to try being lower level"
    And it doesn't take into account what might happen when you level, a fluke crit, a failed escape and you might lose one of your pokemon.

  • @jonathanferguson7791
    @jonathanferguson7791 Рік тому

    Like the vid a lot, but confused... you ran into pidgey, rattata, then caught caterpie in the same spot. I don't really care but I'm definitely missing something.

  • @ChildCrippler
    @ChildCrippler Рік тому

    Got bored of watching nuzlockes.
    Only so many times you can hear someone say they "theorycrafted" blah blah blah after looking up moves on the internet like a coward.

  • @firefly5677
    @firefly5677 Рік тому +1

    Best. Month. Ever

  • @tristanwilliford9099
    @tristanwilliford9099 Рік тому

    Jrose is so used to restrictions, he doesn’t even think about mentioning most of the rules that make a nuzlocke “hardcore.” Playing on set mode? No items in battle? Not using legendaries? Those are just “the basics.”

  • @bfdirockythelugiastan
    @bfdirockythelugiastan Рік тому

    pokemon red was the first game i ever completed a nuzlocke of, i only lost 2 pokemon that whole run... and needless to say i was wildly inexperienced with nuzlocking in general. i'd only attempted it twice at best before

  • @blackheartpopculture
    @blackheartpopculture Рік тому

    If I would have a nuzlock would have most rules attached. However mine would have only one custom clause. Buddy Clause: Any Pokémon that die in battle will be replaced. And only my starter can be revived.