I run a recording studio. I once recorded a 5-track jazz EP in one and a half hours, including the mix! The band (electric piano, sax, drums & electric fretless bass) were gigging every night and knew exactly what they wanted. They were excellent players and their gear was in great shape. I put up some mics, did a line check and some basic EQ (on an analog console) and got a stereo mix, which I fed to all the musicians' headphones. They mixed themselves, just like they did at their gig every night - they listened to each other and each controlled their dynamics accordingly. They did one take of each tune, no overdubs. I simply printed the stereo mix off the console and it was done. The band went home with a master CD, ran off some copies and were selling the CDs at their gig that night. Great music. Much more fun than projects that take 3 months just to track, then weeks of editing and mixing . . .
@@malonedrum Rudy's recordings are unmatched to this day, both in capturing the sound and dynamics of a jazz band and quickly capturing spontaneous improvisations by the some of the greatest musicians ever. timeless records and the gold standard for this kinda thing. Can't say my recording was as good as his though . . .
Mike you're a wonderful studio drummer - so restrained, controlled and mature with your playing but still tasteful. I'm sure Erin was delighted to have you record for her! Great video
Thanks for another great video! It's definitely not easy to get an album recorded in one session, or even 5 sessions, depending on the album. Looking forward to checking out the tunes. And extra props to Erin for providing charts! I always appreciated that from the singer/band leader when I was gigging full time.
I’m really impressed with all you do as a drummer! I also am a drummer but could never be a band leader like you. Also, your computer skills to over dub percussion parts is something that’s impressive! I enjoy these vlogs. Keep playing!
Erin’s voice reminds me of the lead singer for a band that I played with a few times earlier this year and will again through the fall-spring because their normal drummer is a snowbird and goes to AZ. And it might be permanent at some point since he’s getting on in the years and already almost passed twice according to the band’s bass player who I also play with at weekly jam sessions at a local facility that offers many different things for active adults to do, exercise equipment, swimming, arts and crafts, billiards, board games, classes etc. The band is composed of members of the center. They/we do a variety of genres, jazz, oldies, 80s, classic rock/country, bossa nova…
I won’t blast you in the comments on how you transport your gear. I won’t bash you for locking or not locking your car. It’s not my business. I’m here for the grooves & various moments of awesomeness. Carry on…
Cool video; great playing all around! I like the idea of an FX cymbal in the spot where you'd often find a swish. Question: how do you like the Evans conga and bongo heads?
As long as Eric Moore squeezes an 8 or 9 piece DW Collectors in the back of a rental Accord without cases, you should be free to do whatever the hell you want to your drums 😂
@@malonedrum My midwest and upper midwest drummer brothers from other mothers are all super talented, as are you, which is why I thought you might be a DC dude! It's all good!
Great video as usual, Mike. Thanks. I'm wondering about the funding for a project like this. Does the artist have a recording deal or is it out of pocket and how are the musicians paid? Are you as a professional musician required to be a union member or something like that? Cheers.
I think most artists are paying out of pocket, even on some record label projects (aside from major label projects of course). I was offered to be paid for my work on this album, but I actually traded this session for having the singer and guitar player perform a set at my wedding for free. So honestly, the pay wouldn’t have covered that I’m sure.
Hey Mike! Im on the market for a new 22 ride. Is that a 22 Turk youre using? If so, whats the weight of it? I like the sound of yours, but have found that most demos ive seen are a little heavier than I prefer. Also, any other suggestions? I also like the SW ride, do you have that one? Great video and thank you for sharing!
Mine is a 22” Master Vintage, on the thinner side. All great stuff, but there’s tons of variation from one to the next (even the same model) so I recommend buying person or at least using a site where they provide audio samples of the exact cymbal.
Re: Keeping stuff in your car...if you just take in your cymbals, snare, and gig bag it's like 50% of the dollar value of a potential loss. Car raiders aren't looking to flip drums (no comment on sound equipment).
Yeah, I’ll typically bring stuff in if I’m travelling, but I’m Wisconsin, you’d be more like to have somebody break in your car and clean it, than steal anything out from it. But I like your though here with just the valuesbles
And not asking for specifics just generalities, how much would someone expect to be offered for a recording sessions…..again not asking to get into your business, just have no idea……
There’s so much that goes into it and it’s certainly regional or at the level you are at, but some factors I think worth considering in generating quote. Hours, equipment (if you need to bring your own), how it’s being distributed, is it strictly hired gun or is it someone you work with regularly. You can also charge per song or hourly.
I think it’s ok generally to assume analog is richer, but I would say it’s a bit dismissive of how great digital incorporation is to say analog is always better. My opinion.
Want stream the first single from this album? Check it out here: ffm.to/littlebirdsingle
This girl can really sing!!!!
Oh yeah!
I run a recording studio. I once recorded a 5-track jazz EP in one and a half hours, including the mix! The band (electric piano, sax, drums & electric fretless bass) were gigging every night and knew exactly what they wanted. They were excellent players and their gear was in great shape. I put up some mics, did a line check and some basic EQ (on an analog console) and got a stereo mix, which I fed to all the musicians' headphones. They mixed themselves, just like they did at their gig every night - they listened to each other and each controlled their dynamics accordingly. They did one take of each tune, no overdubs. I simply printed the stereo mix off the console and it was done. The band went home with a master CD, ran off some copies and were selling the CDs at their gig that night. Great music. Much more fun than projects that take 3 months just to track, then weeks of editing and mixing . . .
That’s the way all the great we’re doing it with Rudy Van Gelder back in the day!
@@malonedrum Rudy's recordings are unmatched to this day, both in capturing the sound and dynamics of a jazz band and quickly capturing spontaneous improvisations by the some of the greatest musicians ever. timeless records and the gold standard for this kinda thing. Can't say my recording was as good as his though . . .
One day to record, but 50+ years of collective musical experience :-)
At least...
Great video. I would really like a video of your snare set up, tuning-wise and heads for a session like this.
It’s a Gretsch New Classic 14” x 5”. Ambassador coated on top, ambassador snare side on bottom, with snare weight for muffling
Mike, I have never considered trying to play some jazz, but after seeing so many of your jazz videos, I think it would be fun to dabble in it a bit.
Totally! Jazz is a really fun and rewarding art form to learn.
Love Golde and Rock Garden!
He’s great! I’ll have another video with him coming out in a couple months!
Mike you're a wonderful studio drummer - so restrained, controlled and mature with your playing but still tasteful. I'm sure Erin was delighted to have you record for her! Great video
Appreciate it!
the muffled snare on the last track sounds dope! The sound directly gives you a stank face lol
I dig it!
Thanks for another great video! It's definitely not easy to get an album recorded in one session, or even 5 sessions, depending on the album. Looking forward to checking out the tunes. And extra props to Erin for providing charts! I always appreciated that from the singer/band leader when I was gigging full time.
She's the unicorn singer band leader who always has charts, in the right key, that she didn't just steal from somebody else and start distributing.
This inspires me!! I am a Recording Engineer I record traditional Jazz. Y'all did a good job will be checking for content!!!!
Thanks man, it was a fun session, and cool to have this keepsake of it to look back on now.
I’m really impressed with all you do as a drummer! I also am a drummer but could never be a band leader like you. Also, your computer skills to over dub percussion parts is something that’s impressive! I enjoy these vlogs. Keep playing!
Wow, thanks!
Nice man. very cool to watch this kind of process
Glad you enjoyed it!
Such a cool session and a great insight into the process.
Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great playing as always Mike
Thanks!
You all sound great….
Appreciate it!
Erin’s voice reminds me of the lead singer for a band that I played with a few times earlier this year and will again through the fall-spring because their normal drummer is a snowbird and goes to AZ. And it might be permanent at some point since he’s getting on in the years and already almost passed twice according to the band’s bass player who I also play with at weekly jam sessions at a local facility that offers many different things for active adults to do, exercise equipment, swimming, arts and crafts, billiards, board games, classes etc. The band is composed of members of the center. They/we do a variety of genres, jazz, oldies, 80s, classic rock/country, bossa nova…
She’s a wonderful singer, I’d say you’re lucky to sing with somebody who sounds like her.
Something in this ladies voice is quite reminiscent of the late great Eartha Kitt.
I’m not even familiar with Eartha, I’ll have to check that out.
This was a neat look at the process. Thanks Mike!
You bet!
Nice vlog, Mike!
Nice playing with you dude!
I won’t blast you in the comments on how you transport your gear. I won’t bash you for locking or not locking your car. It’s not my business. I’m here for the grooves & various moments of awesomeness.
Carry on…
Ha, thanks man!
Killed it Mike! Keep up the great work
Thanks!
great Video!!!!
Thanks
1st video ive seen from you and you've got my sub. Good video 👍
I’ve got a lot on the channel if you feel like digging into the back catalogue!
Nice playing mike always a pleasure seeing you play and the band is awesome
Thanks!
Excelente Mike!
Thanks!
Love it man you rock we need more vlogs ❤️😊❤️
I've got a few more in the works as we speak!
Great video and awesome drumming on the album!! 👏👏
Appreciate it!
Another great Vlog instalment 👏 - acknowledging they must be a lot of work to put together, they're both interesting and educational 👍
They are a ton of work, but it’s fun to document some of the memorable experiences I have to savor, and the audience tends to enjoy them.
Super cool video as usual, Mike. The band sounds so good with her voice!
Appreciate it!
Love these vids
Thanks!
Good voice.
Thanks!
@@malonedrum Well, brother, you have a nice speaking voice, I suppose, but I meant Erin's singing voice 🤣🤣
Cool video; great playing all around! I like the idea of an FX cymbal in the spot where you'd often find a swish. Question: how do you like the Evans conga and bongo heads?
They work great, a lot louder than the heads that came with those drums.
OMG
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As long as Eric Moore squeezes an 8 or 9 piece DW Collectors in the back of a rental Accord without cases, you should be free to do whatever the hell you want to your drums 😂
I didn't know that. I'm owning it now.
Great brush work! Really a complete player. Do you and I know each other, Mike? Were you ever involved in drum corps?
Sorry, not a drum corp person. Respect to the rudiments chops though.
@@malonedrum My midwest and upper midwest drummer brothers from other mothers are all super talented, as are you, which is why I thought you might be a DC dude! It's all good!
Great video as usual, Mike. Thanks. I'm wondering about the funding for a project like this. Does the artist have a recording deal or is it out of pocket and how are the musicians paid? Are you as a professional musician required to be a union member or something like that? Cheers.
I think most artists are paying out of pocket, even on some record label projects (aside from major label projects of course).
I was offered to be paid for my work on this album, but I actually traded this session for having the singer and guitar player perform a set at my wedding for free. So honestly, the pay wouldn’t have covered that I’m sure.
Great video! Just have to ask, is Paul Sucherman the brother of Todd Sucherman?
Yes, they are indeed brothers.
Nice video. My own experience: tracking to much or to long decreases creativity, enthousiasm, energy, power, spirit, that untouchable thing called it.
Sure, I can understand that for some.
Hey Mike! Im on the market for a new 22 ride. Is that a 22 Turk youre using? If so, whats the weight of it? I like the sound of yours, but have found that most demos ive seen are a little heavier than I prefer. Also, any other suggestions? I also like the SW ride, do you have that one? Great video and thank you for sharing!
Mine is a 22” Master Vintage, on the thinner side. All great stuff, but there’s tons of variation from one to the next (even the same model) so I recommend buying person or at least using a site where they provide audio samples of the exact cymbal.
😮
OMG
I would love to study with you
I have done some virtual lessons before.
Re: Keeping stuff in your car...if you just take in your cymbals, snare, and gig bag it's like 50% of the dollar value of a potential loss. Car raiders aren't looking to flip drums (no comment on sound equipment).
Yeah, I’ll typically bring stuff in if I’m travelling, but I’m Wisconsin, you’d be more like to have somebody break in your car and clean it, than steal anything out from it.
But I like your though here with just the valuesbles
... looks like Wisconsin hmmm 🤔 ... then you said Appleton 😅
Appleton, Wisconsin
And not asking for specifics just generalities, how much would someone expect to be offered for a recording sessions…..again not asking to get into your business, just have no idea……
There’s so much that goes into it and it’s certainly regional or at the level you are at, but some factors I think worth considering in generating quote.
Hours, equipment (if you need to bring your own), how it’s being distributed, is it strictly hired gun or is it someone you work with regularly.
You can also charge per song or hourly.
Imo any genre sounds better recorded analog……
I think it’s ok generally to assume analog is richer, but I would say it’s a bit dismissive of how great digital incorporation is to say analog is always better. My opinion.