5 Ways To Improve Your Punk Drumming
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- There are a few key ways to become a faster and tighter punk drummer. And no, it’s not by drinking and moshing more.
If you’re into bands like NOFX, Black Flag and Blink-182, this lesson will be right up your alley. Here are five tips to help you play along to the songs you love (and get the gig with your favorite local punk band):
0:00 - Intro
1. Master your bass drum double strokes (1:04)
The best punk drummers have a blazing fast foot. Solve your bass drum problems and you’ll solve your punk drumming problems! Use the slide technique or the heel-toe technique to get two strokes for the price of one.
2. Learn these two classic punk beats (3:46)
Focus on nailing these two beats:
Bass, snare, bass bass snare, like in “Linoleum” by NOFX and “Anthem” by Blink-182.
Bass, snare bass, bass snare, like in “Nothing” by Millencolin where the bass drum lands on the and of 2 and the and of 3).
3. Learn how to use punk beats musically (6:37)
Yep…you can be musical in punk. Combine the two beats above into a 2-bar phrase and maybe play a polka beat before going into them. If you need a break from double strokes, simplify the bass drum and match the guitar rhythms. If the guitar does a push, have your kick do a push.
You can also mix and match by moving your lead hand to the toms or on the ride or crash - don’t just rely on the hi-hat. You can also go into a half-time version of the beat if you want to drop the energy or change the feel of the song.
4. Master the ‘reverse shank tip‘ (10:14)
Playing a fast hi-hat part at 200+ will burn out your arm if you’re trying to go full throttle with just your wrist. Like how the double stroke is a must for your feet, the shank tip is a must for your hands.
The typical shank tip technique is where you use the shank (shoulder) of the stick for the first hit and the tip of the stick for the second hit. In the reverse shank tip, place the accent (shank) on the upbeat instead of on the downbeat. Think of it like matching it with your backbeat hand. This method preserves your energy so you can play longer and avoid injury.
5. Focus on the backbeat (13:44)
Punk rock is all about the backbeat - it keeps the energy going and drives the song. The worst thing you can do as a punk drummer is lose the backbeat! If you’re getting tired, you can give your lead hand a break by skipping some notes on the cymbal or using two hands where you’d normally use one.
Your can also play half the amount of notes on your lead hand. Instead of playing 8th notes, have your hands working in unison on the 2 and the 4.
While pretty much anyone can play punk music (it’s accessible, affordable, and pretty straightforward), it’s harder to be a good punk drummer. Master these tips and you’ll be in high demand!
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I’m a hard core punk drummer from 1992. I record 4 albums of my own music, but I’ve played for practicing a lot of NOFX, Face to Face, No Use For a Name stuff and works great. But you can reach the “next level” on hardcore music trying to practice Lagwagon and Strong Out music. Soooooo challenging!!! Because the problem with these parts is not only the speed, but the technique too. Great tips in this video, they are all super useful. Only one thing that for me you forget: respiration. Your arms and your feet need oxygen to work properly. If you are able to manage your respiration while you’re playing a 220 bpm song, it helps a lot. You have to breat with the beat, constantly. In te past I take a breath only after a crash beat or a fill. Not a great idea. Much better to learn to breath continuously. It needs a little bit of practice, but saves a lot of energy when you have a long song list!!!
Listen to Suicidal Tendencies‘ Freedumb Album with Brooks Wackermann. A masterpiece of Punk Rock Drumming!
Agree, love the way the snare pops in that album
Crossover Thrash is really sick
Brooks is as good as it gets
And "internet dating superstuds" or "Hitler bad vándals good" from the vándals. Josh freese Is another punk drummer genius.
@@dariolobo4406 yup that’s one of the best
I'm a NOFX fan of 20+ years and this was an awesome video because you're right, punk rock is generally away from spot light, partly because we like it that way, but it's still heartwarming when someone of influence shows their admiration and respect for the culture and can appreciate that it is a disciplined way to make music. Smelly is a killer drummer, it would be cool to see a session with him on Drumeo.
As an exclusive punk drummer who has only been playing punk since late 90's, this lesson is spot on for the basics. Very well done. However as a punk drummer I must of course reject your capitalistic video.
😂👍
Punk is anti authority, not necessarily anti capitalism.
@@Slamadeus Modern punk is. Modern punk is mostly Anarcho-communism.
Punk is dead dude
@@Slamadeus it has to necessarily be anti capitalism.
One recommendation for building speed for the foot is this Buddy Rich trick of taking the *spring off the pedal and getting the beater to rebound off the bass drum head with just feeling for the rebound with your ankle. It's the same as the slide technique, but helps beginners feel for how the beater should continuously bounce off the head. Edit: Btw, really loved the video. I hope Smelly comes through to Drumeo! Bill Stevenson would be a really good one too.
SHARTIMUSSSS
thank you shartimus prime
*cries in direct drive*
Does that really work? I have tried for months to do the slide technique. I still have not been able to do it. Back to the drawing board I guess and I really appreciate his explanation in this vid.
I hope you mean the spring and not the chain... ;)
Well said. There are really few lessons about punk rock drumming. It takes not much to understand what this genre requires in terms of grooves and fills (and because of that, somebody may under rate punk) but behind that speed there's a sense! Thanks for the tips, David!
I witnessed The Decline live in Rio. Smelly just left the drum kit for the final section of the song, got Hefe's guitar and chilled playing some power chords for ~3min. A roadie took over the drums. So that's another tip to preserve endurance in a punk show haha
I d love to see more punk lessons.
My favorite style of music. Highly recommend Lagwagon, Wilhelm Scream, and Propaghandi.
This was my favorite lesson. There's nothing like the fast punk beat. Thanks for showing the love!
From my time playing punk, I remember all of the pain in various parts of my arm. Something I do recommend is getting a copy of Jo Jo Mayers, Secret Weapons of the Modern drummer. Has a lot of tips to tweak your technique to reduce injuries while increasing speed, which made a world of difference to my high-hat technique and endurance.
This one one of the most well explained, well demonstrated tutorials I’ve ever seen. To get across so much crucial information in just under 20 minutes. Awesome job!
Great lesson. I grew up in the 90s and 2000s so all the band's you mentioned where THE punk bands everyone looked to for inspiration for punk music. Great explanation and break down, especially talking about the bass drum doubles using slide technique. When I accidentally came across that concept on my own (before I knew doubles was a thing on kick drum) I found it great for those punk rock speeds.
Respect just for using a clip of my favourite punk band "No Use For A Name"
RIP Tony Sly
Amazing to find these kind of stuff in drumeo. Puts a smile on my face.
I really enjoyed this lesson. You did a great job and please include more videos for this genre. Love your influences dude 👌
I’ve been playing punk on drums for 25 years with absolutely no lessons at all. I skip beats with my lead hand and replace Tom hits with my kick. I thought I just stomped out every kick (heel up) but when I actually looked at how I use my foot I’ve been using slide technique this whole time without realising it. I would LOVE more punk content btw. Punk is the only style I love playing and am really good at. I found it was harder to get those super fast rolls happening than it was getting my double kick down. Maybe some hand speed lessons next??
Yes please, more punk drum lessons! This one was a game changer for me. So many thanks Dave!!
Same here
When I started playing drums, I actually started with Dave's first punkrock drumming video. Back then, it surely was a great help. Easy to imagine that this one will be very helpful for starters as well! I would be interested to see his favorite drumming parts - no matter if copied from songs or self invented. Additionally, there are some ways to make punk beats more spicey like throwing in a quick double on the hi-hat or something like this (not on 200 bpm, of course). But would be interested to know how things that we are all too well familiar with can sound surprising and fun when done in a smart way.
@Thomas you spesking of Dave GROHL or Lombardo
If we find a Bass player called Tom Fishar we can start one hell of a band my man.
Dude, where was this video 7 years ago when I started :D
Most concise AND ACCURATE how-to on punk drumming I saw
Thank you so much Diamo!!
Holy shit. And here I was thinking he was just the interviewer.
I always cheat my way out of double strokes on Hi-hats by hitting the snare at the same time with my kick leading the beat, hoping nobody would notice, but that reverse stick technique i DEFINITELY gotta try, next time my punk band preforms. Thank you!!
That Orange County kit is UNREAL!
Great tips, man! The one about the reverse shank tip is particularly helpful. I've programmed fast punk drums in my home studio with good results, but something was missing. That tip will do it. Awesome!
Amazing video Dave! This is exactly the kind of video I was looking for after I started practicing to some really fast Offspring songs like All I Want. Most punk drum vids out there just focus on the half-time variant of the common punk beats, but I agree with you: what makes a punk drum beat is the double-time variant. I will probably be watching this video multiple times to digest all of those tips! Thanks for putting all of this out there and looking forward to more videos like this!
This was great. The album that really taught me how to drum is dude ranch by blink. They helped me get the basics down at the speed. So by the time I moved onto nofx or rise against I had the speed and the basics, then I just needed the chops and the time signatures
Esto es de lo mejor que he encontrado en lecciones de punk, tenes razon hay muy pocas, gracias! Mas lecciones de punk!
Bro that may 16 intro still gives me goosebumbs lol Lagwagon was one of my favorite bands back in the 2000's . Nice tips btw thanks for sharing this keep up.
SUPER helpful video. Been playing for 5y ears and never really had a clear idea of how to actually do the slide technique for punk beats or what the hell even the shank tip was! Thank you SO MUCH!!!
Also, I've been checking out drumeo since I started and this is by far, my favorite video of theirs. Thanks guys and yes please, more content like this!
Derrick Plourde was great on Lagwagons Album Hoss! Very creative, crisp and fast drumming.
You enjoyed Hoss more than Duh?
@@ScoobyAndFriends
Duh, Trashed, Hoss.. all great Albums! RIP Derrick Plourde..
Some great tips here! Bobby Schayer from Bad Religion did a lot of this; half time and effort saver beats. Get Bobby in the studio. I'm sure he'd share some tips even though he has long retired.
Was a punk drummer 20 years ago trying to play along to No Use for a Name...
This was excellent information! 👏
What a cool lesson! This is very useful. I am glad to see Dave continues to give great useful tips. Humble despite the great chops and technique 👍🏼
Super freakin useful! I'm not a drummer, but I've been recording my own punk music, and I've realized just how much I DON'T know about beats I grew up with. And you're right, not near enough videos on punk music and punk beats on the internet. Keep em coming! Thank you!
I’m excited to put this tips on work!!! I’m a huge fan of punk rock!!! I begin to play drum to make songs like that ahah thanks for sharing!
not a punk drummer but truly appreciate this video. thank you for these tips!!!
You could easily do an entire video on Bill Stevenson. Truly an unreal drummer, song writer, producer and all around nice guy.
Very nice detail with the OCDP drum kit for talking about punk 🤘🤘
Awesome lesson! Yes, please make more punk rock lessons!
You need to ask Yuri Ruley from MxPx to come to Drumeo. Very underrated drummer that is much more technical than people know. His foot technique is impressive, captures the punk sound very well, and also gives the music life without flashiness. He is my pick for a punk rock drummer.
Couldn't agree more
How about Dave Raun?
@Roger Davila yeah, he would be great also. Lagwagon is much faster than traditional punk. I'd also ask Casey Lewis from Belvedere and his heel up technique.
Absolutely love this content. Awesome to see some tips for classic skate punk beats. Love Drumeo❤️❤️🥁🤙🏾
Listen to some of The Offsprings double time punk beats, crazy how sometimes the lack of certain kick drum hits makes for a killer groove even without any doubles. All I Want being a good song example
Thanks for the tips dude. Super useful!
Thanks man. Great tips, punk drumming is crazy fast and not always obvious
Finally a great punk drumming lesson !!!!
That's probably the best bass drum tone I've ever heard
Commenting for the algorithm. Would love to see more punk stuff. Thanks.
Nice job, love all those bands as well. Totally why I started on the drums, 20+ years ago.
Dude!!!! it was a big pleasure to listen to you! U have a nice flow, and tomorrow i think i will my punk skillz ;) wish u the best
Wow. Great instruction...and playing. Succinct and to the point. I've been playing for two weeks now, and love it (at 65).
I love David's lessons and approach...
Yes, please! A drumeo course on that sort of punk drumming would be priceless 🙏
There’s been a few.
The song I struggled with the most was “On The Outside” by No Use For A Name. I could never play the hi-hats as fast as he could even with the shank tip.
Great video mate, would love to see more!
Man, I love you so much. Thanks for this tips. Thanks Drumeo
Absolutely great video. Great tips!
Great lesson!! Thanks so much. More of these 🔥🤘🏻
Really cool lesson, I’d love to see more!
I love that you started with a Smelly bit! Dude is underrated!
This was the video I just needed right now. Every question I had was answered ! Thank you so much !
Love the drum set. It’s so cool.
Excellent video. Besides having some great tips it inspired me to write a few punk songs of my own this week
A thing i learned to do from watching a fellow punk drummer. When playing those super fast D-beats like in crust/anarcho punk songs, i hit the crash, hihat.. Everything, in unison to the kick and it lets me save a shit ton of energy, i also do the half note things on the cymbals if im tired enough.
More punk please
I would particularly enjoy a lesson on some punk fills that are too fast to learn by ear and maybe some weird fills like the one Tre Cool does on the & of 4 all over Dookie
This lesson is very informative. Heck ya!
Very useful, and yes, so hard to find punk stuff on YT..
My favorites, Smelly, Josh Freese!!
I just started playing fast skate punk 1.5 years ago, and I’m 43 year old.. some tough stuff…
My band says I’m good..so, I guess I’ll keep it going!
Thanks you drumeo, for doing punk stuff… especially advice on endurance… there is more to be said about that!!
It's especially hard when you are older as any tension will lead to injury. Been struggling to get up to those really fast speed but been working on nothing but relaxed playing during lockdowns. It's been a long journey for me and it's not over!
I love punk drumming and this was very helpful for me. Thank you for the tips. 🙏🤘🤘
Spot on! Great lesson.
Yes!! More punk, please! LOVED this lesson!!
Super helpful!!! I am sharing this video on Reddit to help people on a thread talking about this beat in particular!
Great stuff. I’m very particular to pop punk and it’s probably what I practice most often. You definitely don’t see very much info about how to play it though so I would love more from drumeo. It would be so awesome to see like an hour long lesson with one of the goat punk drummers
I love listening and drumming to punk and this was super helpful info 👌👌 keep it up👍👍
Thank you for teaching this!
Gosh this brings so many memories this is how I learned to play and at church
Yes please, do some more punk lessons!
The best video about punk druming !!
Grew up on punk music all I played for a while and all your tips are awesome yes more punk it actually helps a lot with speed and endurance which most drummers want anyway even if it just helps play slower grooves better
This is very helpful! Will watch this a few more times 👍
It's odd, I grew up playing the same as you Dave. I play usually heel up but do heel toe but i use heel up to do skips like like skipping the first bass note of the double mixed in depending on the note arrangement. That is huge in my opinion. It changes the dynamic... I learned that from Jordan Burns and Derrick Plourde
haha I'm exactly the same, heel-up and use either heel-toe or put it all in my ankle aided by the bounce
I play heel up, heel up works best for fast tempos and double bass i naturally do the slide technique at high tempos but never just tried to learn it but it just happened while learning blast beats on my feet especially fast16th or slow 32nd.
Hello!!
yes and yes!!!
i have play in a punk band a few years ago, and i wish i had this tips in that time!!
this is very cool tips!! :)
I was sooooo waiting for this :)
More videos dude!!! Awesome tips!!! 🤘🏻
This is genuinely one of the best tutorials on the platform
ive been waiting for a video like this for a long time
Wow! I blend a lot of these techniquez in my everyday drummin' 🥁🎶 Punk Rock 101
Great Dave! Love it!
that kit is FRESH!!! blue and white!
Pretty nice!
I started playing the drums a year ago and wasn't sure in which direction I should go. I listen to Metal and Punk like 15 years now and yeah it all started with Green Day. So im going to push myself and masters these lessons.
Wow nicely done Dave!
That kit is gorgeous
Thanks for the great advice
Good work on the video
Awesome job
Nice lesson and also nice drum kit Dave
This helped a lot please do more punk drumming lessons
Thanks for including MxPx. Yuri is a criminally underrated drummer.
My older brothers wanted to have a punk band so they helped me buy a drum set in when I was in my early teens and they immersed me in some of these same bands, now 15 years later I can still only play punk beats but hey, I am pretty good at it. Other tips, shout outs and punk drummers would be awesome
This is a great lesson. I've been playing punk for 20 years and it took me forever to figure these beats and tricks out. Currently I play in a Epitaph/Fat Records Tribute band called The EpiFats from Barrie/Toronto and if it weren't for Drumeo I wouldn't be playing The Decline and all these other fast punk songs I grew up dreaming about playing. Consistency is key, passion is key. Love what you do and good things will grow.
P.s Dave your top notch, no matter what the the boys teese you about, your a stand up drummer.
Adam Vetter aka Shredder Vetter.
Todd Sucherman is so freaking awesome. I bought both of his dvd's and they have been a great resource.
Do the dvds teach you the dbl kick technique?
As a beginner metal drummer I think this totally helped me! Thank you!
Dunno how beginner you are but try this if you haven't.. Best if you have double pedals
Two top then two kick- so...
Snare snare kick kick /tom1 tom1 kick kick/ tom2 tom2 kick kick/ floor floor kick kick
Do the kicks as fast as you do the top hits same tempo same timing. Same feel as if you just did 4 hits on snare but do 2 snare 2 kick etc etc.
Then you can just alternate where you do the 2 top hits (anything! Anywhere!) Between the 2 kicks and make crazy fills and is also a good warm up.
R L K K R L K K R L K R L K K
part 5 also works with intense blastbeats
this guy is an amazing teacher...time for sign up for drumeo