Okay I cried. It’s not the best Beatles song, but it is undeniably a Beatles song, with all of the original members. I’m truly lucky to be a 25 year old who gets to experience this.
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995. GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION! The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME! It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had! They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song! IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER! Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
@@stillaliveplus1formelol do you think they heard it and just thought “damn we’re spending all this time finalizing John’s demo but we actually don’t like him so we’re gonna cut out his song” they couldn’t clean up and equalize all of the song. they could’ve either re recorded that part and it not be played or sung by john, or they could keep the whole song being played and sung by john
@@stillaliveplus1formethere’s no way you use tik tok if you think this is a tik tok song. far from it. you may not like it that’s fine but let some of that hate out of your heart away from the beatles please
I really love this song - the story behind it and its long journey to becoming a finished work is so unique and fascinating. The Beatles and John in particular were constantly experimenting with cutting edge technologies and effects, so I do think John would have been thrilled by the whole thing. The song itself is quite touching, bittersweet and slightly melancholic which fits perfectly as “the last Beatles song,” I think. They didn’t overdo it with the orchestral touches either. Obviously it’s never going to stack up against their catalog but it’s a nice, pleasant coda to a legendary run. And I like that they seemed to make it sound more like the music John was doing around the time he recorded the original demo, rather than trying for another Strawberry Fields Forever or something.
You should say Paul in particular as well. It was Paul who found out how to manipulate the tape machine by removing the eraser head to make tape loops. He then showed the rest how to do it and spearheaded the idea on Tomorrow Never Knows. Paul was constantly pushing them to experiment
Not a massive Beatles listener but I also really enjoyed this song. They were experimental and innovative with how they turned the demo into a finished song, which I definitely prefer over if they tried being more "safe" with their interpretation like what Fantano described wanting the song to be like in the video.
I really liked it, I think the large sound Paul and Ringo were going for was kind of a nice send off. I can only imagine that the reason they chose to bury the voice a little was because when put through the AI, the demo vocal track, recorded in an apartment sounds slightly awkward when put in front of studio recorded instruments. So the final product to me actually sounds quite impressive and as a Beatles fan I’m really satisfied with how it turned out.
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995. GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION! The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME! It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had! They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song! IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER! Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
He didn't not enjoy it because he's a music reviewer. He just didn't enjoy it. I don't know why people think that being a reviewer makes you like things less.
@@franciscofarias6385I guess it just makes him more likely to see the faults in a song, and to review the song in a vacuum, which removes some of the sentimentality that we usually have when thinking or listening to music.
It's weird I'm living in a time where I get to hear a new Beatles song, especially being younger. To me it feels like a good conclusion, even if production wasn't the best at least intentions behind it were good, and it's well enough made.
It isn't a masterpiece. But it's a satisfying conclusion to a legacy of one of the most important artists in music or general. And the fact that the Beatles used a new technology in their music is just a repeat of what they have always done even in the past.
I get what you’re saying about Paul and Ringo’s contributions I think it really came down to the song being like ‘Real Love’ where it was clearly just a John Lennon song with not a lot of space for anything else so I understand them wanting to over-contribute to make it a Beatles song which they were always going to struggle to do They did really well with Free as Bird to make that a Beatles song
That's completely wrong There was just as much space as in Free As A Bird in the bridge that they just cut out completely instead of finishing it's lyrics. This whole thing is awful.
@@jonasrmb01 All criticism and discussion is welcome, but calling someone "completely wrong" and saying "this whole thing is awful" is, in itself, awful. Your opinion is terribly worded/formulated and I'm sure most people would disagree with you. Sorry, you're in the deep minority on this one. If you wanna share negative opinions, at least do it in a way that promotes civil discussion.
In a vacuum, I don't disagree with Melon, but since it's a standalone single being billed as the last Beatles track, I don't think they could realistically go with the type of subtle, understated production that he's suggesting. If they had actually released this track on the Anthology, then that would make way more sense because it would be part of a three song collection. But on it's own, they had to add enough instrumentation and production that would at least somewhat live up to the hype.
@xBINARYGODx Lad the beatles recorded 13 albums in 7 years. It's more accurate to say this IS Beatles like cause in the Beatlemania days they had to flood albums onto the market as fast as possible, ending up a number of their albums filled with covers. PPS, WtB, BFS, all had covers filling those up. So it is like the Beatles to compromise artistry for business and non artistic reasons
And this is why artists shouldn't let external factors, such as public hype, effect the work itself, because it almost always yields a lesser result long-term.
I’m not sure if this is super common knowledge, but this song was included on a cassette tape of demos John made that was labeled “for Paul”. Yoko gave Paul the cassette (in 1994) and felt John wanted to work on them with Paul. Therefore, I feel Paul’s contributions are welcome, and it’s a nice gesture that two 80ish-year old guys would put in the time and effort to honour a fallen bandmate (two technically) who were not able to see through the completion of the track.
It’s common knowledge that it was meant for Paul Hogan; the Australian actor that went on to achieve fame in the 80s. John Lennon considered him his brother 🫂
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995. GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION! The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME! It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had! They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song! IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER! Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
I still can’t say how surreal it is to have new Beatles music in 2023 but I still absolutely love it, like it’s undoubtedly a beautiful song and it’s just incredible being able to hear John’s voice again… The Beatles with the very first band I got into back when I started playing guitar at age 10 (I’m 24 now) and they’re still a huge reason why I wanted to play music in the first place so just to hear John's genuine vocals is just still crazy to me but it’s an absolutely great song and I’ve been listening to it so many times so far. I love it
I was born in 2000, yet I have been a Beatles fan my entire life, they are my favorite band of all time, and never in a million years did I think that I would be able to actually experience the joy of being able to have a Beatles song released in my lifetime. What a privilege to finally be able to hear the completed song and the final song of the greatest band in history, and I can't wait for the music video's release tomorrow. Thank you, Paul, John, George, Ringo, Olivia, Yoko, and everyone who made this possible. I literally cannot thank you enough.
I understand the viewpoint but i still like it and disagree. This tape was made by john and is in the styling of a john song, not a beatles song. They then also had to get what little of george they had for one day of trying to make this in the 90s and then mix it all together. The fact that it even sounds as good as it does is an achievement in itself. Paul and ringo have also both had their own solo careers and their own sounds, so for them to manage to turn this into a beatles esque song while not sounding dated is just so impressive to me. I know paul proved he could make a lennon song with let me roll it but to turn lennons tape into something that feels like a bookend a sound that they havent really made for 60 odd years, its just cool It's also cool that the ended their career with industry changing technology, very on brand
The Love Me Do remaster is absolutely incredible with a good sound system. You should go over that/the new remasters when they come out. It makes me thrilled to hear all these songs in a new light.
What I find so strange is that The Beatles technically had the best finale with Real Love (which some feel shouldnt count as a Beatles song as the demo had been released years earlier on bootlegs and compilations, but by that logic Now and Then doesn't count either). It's a much better song than Free As A Bird and Now and Then and hugely satifying finale to what many consider the greatest band of all time. Its amazing that for a band as overdiscussed as them, Real Love is barely mentioned.
Let it be is the best farewell song they overdid this we're retiring gimmick but that's what most great artists and athletes do they retire then unretire most times
i don't really like Real Love all that much, it's very much in there on john's cornier side that showed up a lot at the end of his career, really catchy but not my vibe. but i think you're right. they managed to give it a really Beatley sound in a way that sounded authentic, whereas Now and Then feels more contrived. The backing vocals, Ringo's booming tom fills, the little guitar licks, simple piano, a catchy pop melody with a surprising, slightly moody chorus, even a little harpsichord. it's also fitting that it feels like a song that could play over the credits of a beatles doc lol
@@artistaccount actually Abbey Road was their farewell, chronologically speaking. Can't get a better finale than that. You make a valid point though. They're kinda overdoing it lol
i think this could've been one of their great hits back then. its just that good. cant stop listening. really delivers the surreal, haunting feelings of a past john lennon.
Idk I really liked the bass in it. I’d say drums were slightly too prominent, and George’s guitar part could’ve been a little more prominent. But I’m not gonna whine, I’m very grateful we got this. Can understand why you might think it’s too dense compared to the demo
Ringo and Paul are both in their '80s at the time of this coming out. A pretty solid entry for rocking that old! Makes you think about what your grandparents do?! The mix is a bit off tho
I love this song. I think the fact you can hear a 60s Lennon, 90s Harrison, and 2020s McCartney and Star really adds to the story of the track. And overall I just connect to it.
I'm not even a huge Beatles fan but I liked it. Felt wistful and melancholic but also thankful for all the wonderful people in your life. A fitting swan song.
The juxtaposition of the somber-ish vocal with the progressively more upbeat accompaniment encapsulates their range pretty well. Not the best Beatles track of course but pretty decent considering the context.
I think you nailed it, technically speaking, from around 5.10 onwards. I concur 100%. . . BUT . . . I still found the song incredibly moving…How could you not?
I've been a fan of the Beatles for all my life and anticipated this song and I'm not really moved by it. I won't even call it a cool track as Fontano. Cause I don't really like Paul's solo work. And this sounds more like a Paul's solo song than a John's song.
@@user-up4xi8go9l you say this but the track was labeled "for paul" and they indeed TRIED to finish it in the 90s and put it down. oaul and ringo are getting older, more sentimental. thinking EVERYTHING is a money grab is dilusional
I feel like the density of the song was a bit of a necessity. I don’t think an intimate song would live up to the 30 year buildup. They had to pump it up a bit and make it exciting.
Also from what I've heard of the vocals without any of the instruments, a single word does end up sounded artificial and needs instruments to try and hide it.
The bass and drums really aren't that obnoxious, lmao. They're pretty comfortable in the mix IMO.. because it's a song that's driving forward. I get why the original demo gives more slow and downbeat vibes that could have been stuck to here. But I think following that structure would have been a big mistake. They clearly wanted this version to be more uplifting, rather than walk away with a downer. Perhaps you can intellectualise it and say the downer would be a better song. And maybe it would be. But I also think that's massively missing the point in this case.
if it's a sad song, let it be (heh) a sad song. that would be more emotionally impactful for a final Beatles song than trying to jazz it up Phil Spektor stylee
I totally disagree with your take. The guitar licks sound great to me, and the drums and bass sound appropriate to me, they’re pretty low in the mix compared to the singing and rhythm guitar. I think you’re being over critical, as I often feel.
I liked the song. It’s quite powerful in the lyrics and Lennon’s voice. The unfairness of his death rings through. It has this parting feeling transcending a relationship extending to one’s mortality. The extra voices and instrumentation I could do without but they don’t ruin it.
not a lot of beatles songs are commercialized because they're expensive af, either someone near you always blasts their music or your parents or grandparents always plays them, because I have not heard a single beatles song being played in malls or other places
Come on fantano this song is quite good, you're right about the verse change, They also deleted off the best part of the demo being John's falsetto, quite sad but its still a great track I still consider Free as a Bird to be better but maybe this track might grow on me
Everybody complains: "It's too safe. it needed more experimentation, more instruments", and "this was over-produced, it needed to be more minimalistic and melancholic like the demo". *BE HAPPY WE GOT A NEW BEATLES SONG!* That paul and Ringo got out of retirement, had fun in the studio and made this gift for us fans and for Lennon and Harrison. Something with so much hype as "the final beatles song based on one the most beloved Lennon demos" will never please everyone. I agree, it needs remixing and the strings and guitars do fight in the mix, but it's still great and has the feels of a classic beatles song which is an achievement. I can imagine this song being an Abby Road B-side. Paul and Ringo set out to make a tribute song for their lost friends and play the final note of their legacy, and they got the job done.
It’s a great song. I was calling it just a “good song,” for a bit now. but it really is a great song, and the only reason people would diss on it is because the beatles discography is so strong
No, THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995. GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION! The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME! It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had! They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song! IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER! Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
Imagine a world where Sting died in the early nineties and Trudie digs up personal demos of Sting music destine for The Soul Cages or Ten Summoner’s Tales and hands them over to Andy & Stewart to get produced and marketed as “The final Police song”.
Something that might be important about Paul's guitar work is he supposedly meant it as a tribute to the instrumental George recorded for what would've been the Anthology 3 version of Now and Then. How accurate that is we'll never know, but Paul said that in the short film they released for the song. I can understand if Paul and Ringo wanted a big stamp from George to be there on the song, that they'd go ahead with what he envisioned the guitar to be in 1996.
I think what Anthony fails to appreciate is the fact that us zoomers didn't grow up with Anthology, and it was our parents who had the privilege to be able to go out and buy the then-newest Beatles singles "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love". For the first 20 years of my life, I legitimately thought they'd never finish "Now And Then" and that there would never be a new Beatles single for our generation. It was a bit of a nihilistic thought, considering I'm a huge Beatles fan, but it was realistic for the 20 years that it lasted. When Paul announced this in June, I jumped in the air with joy. Finally, a Beatles single that's brand new for my generation! That's the aspect of the song that historically makes a lot of sense, and I'm so sad that nobody has ever touched on this aspect before. Also, when the news that this track utilized AI stem separation technology initially came out in June, Anthony made this dumb little video on his UA-cam Shorts channel where he proclaimed it to be 'the worst idea ever'. I wish he could admit he was wrong about that instead of sidestepping that viewpoint in this video. Sure, it was a UA-cam Shorts video from 4 months ago, it's disposable, nobody's seen it since. But I went back to it. It wasn't funny. I highly doubt Anthony will ever read this, because he has better things to do than sit around and even touch my comment. I just wanted to say this anyways, because it's worth knowing all the things that he neglected to mention in this video regarding his views on the track. (By the way, the track is gorgeous in my view.)
Yeah, he won't admit that because he is always right yah. Sometimes he makes this weird reviews for clicks. Seen it with some other bands. Wish we have reviewers who are open minded and unbiased.
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995. GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION! The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME! It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had! They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song! IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER! Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
i think its spot on for late 60s beatles sound, just sounds much cleaner in general, also has the essence of free as a bird and real love, that without peter jackson make johns voice a lot more raw
@@sainthuckelberry bass licks are straight out of revolver, orchestration sounds like anything george martin made for them, harmonies… i really don’t think i need to explain myself, or you need a new set of ears lol
@@sendjamin idk agree to disagree. The guitar lines sound like 70s George Harrison solo. Drum mix also sounds 70s solo work (Ringo drummed on at least some of Lennon's solo stuff). The harmonies and orchestration do, I agree, but they are only in 1/3rd of the song. Like, most of this sounds like a Lennon solo project at best
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995. GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION! The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME! It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had! They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song! IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER! Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
I think what mr fantano doesnt understand is that they didnt intend to create a good John lennon solo song, but wanted to create a beatles song and were obviously limited to what they could do. They could have made this an imagine era piece but that would mean taking out all the beatles elements of the song (like pauls licks, over stylish bassline typical in post revolver work, and their signature strings with a counter melody). I think this was a lovely send off to the Beatles and a reminder of what we used to have
Its a great song Anthony, if you don't get too hung up on the demo, it cannot be a Beatles song if other members don't play on it, so it being dense and also modern, was pretty much expected. And since it is the last ever song, strings added a nice extra layer of ornamentation. IMO, its masterfully done.
Could be his speakers. On my headphones and car, I didn't feel like the drums were overly prominent. They kind of sounded like in the background for me, like am echo
I'm 100% certain they had to cut that part because the software being used couldn't adequately seperate that section of the vocals from the piano. What is included in this release is all they would have been able to salvage.
Honestly my only gripe with the song is that Paul just isn’t able to harmonise with John any more. I think the song would sound a million times better if we had 80s Paul’s voice singing along John.
Absolutely spot on with this review. It was the type of melody that needed a delicate arrangement/production, which a final Beatles song was never going to get.
This isn’t the type of song you can criticize on its technical merit. The emotional weight behind makes it beautiful (it’s also a good song). This is Paul and Ringo’s goodbye to John and George. Yes it’s mixed a little weird and overproduced but when the instrumental section came in, I got a warm feeling in my chest. I knew melon wouldn’t like it, he has no emotion.
That's a bit unfair, I've been a huge Beatles fan for years and have been invested emotionally for just as long. I really appreciate this as a goodbye to John (tho I think that was already achieved with Real Love/Free as a Bird, which I loved), but I was pretty disappointed in the actual song. Gotta agree with Melon on this one.
If you have a background in production or engineering you unfortunately can’t not evaluate it on those terms. It’s sad when a prolific mixing engineer brick walls the hell out of a nice song.
That's the thing. The first thought I had was: Too much. No space. And it just just sounds like Grandpa Paul style. But hey as a piece of "All Beatles back together" art I appreciate it.
@@riezexeero7392 If it’s silly to expect a good song, then it shouldn’t have been released. The Beatles shouldn’t be releasing dreadful rehashes of weak demos.
i think that if theyd worked on it more in the 90s George would have put on a lot more lead slide guitar, I learned the song today and worked out a lil slide solo ala George for it hehe
I think your criticisms are valid, but I think you're thinking of this as a John Lennon song because that's what you want it to be. Sure it might've been more touching if it was just John and a piano, like Imagine, but then it wouldn't have been a Beatles song and it would've stayed a demo.
Commenting before I watch cause I feel like Fantano gonna be a bitch and call it trash. I fucking love this song. The way the title and the lyrics make for a perfect bookend to the Beatles catalog and perfectly capture the circumstances surrounding the song is amazing. It’s very fitting and poetic. It’s cool how life does that sometimes. I’ve listened to it like 100 times already and it gets better everytime. It captures now and it captures then. The two meet in love. Jolly good tune.
The end, her majesty, old brown shoe, get back, I want you (she’s so heavy), I me mine, you know my name (look up the number) free as a bird, real love and now now and then. Take your pick on these hotly debated last Beatles songs
It reminds me of one of those tribute concert performances, where the stage is packed with extra musicians strumming along just to be there. I feel if just the acoustic guitars were removed, the other instruments in the mix would sound much better.
"Why did the other Beatles record more parts for the song, why didn't they make it a John Lennon solo track?" -Anthony Fantano. I don't love the song either, but your critique is kinda silly. It feels like The Beatles, it doesn't feel any more saturated than other Beatles fair.
You put a lot of thought in a song where two of the members are dead. Its a nice nostalgic piece of music, just that. If you want the beatles they have lots of albums they all contribute. Now this, is just a gift. Licks are not even that exagerated xD Paul played like that all the time, and the more he aged the more he did
Best Beatles song ever…nope. A sweet little song with all of the Fab Four that is pleasant and catchy…yup! I am glad it exist. It didn’t have to be released…but it was…and I am here for it.
There was some fan mix that had a more psychedelic feel and was filled with a lot of stuff but I enjoyed more. I was disappointed they cut the parts "I don't want to lose you, oh no... Lose you or confuse you, oh no, but if you have to..." Etc, etc
While the cut line was amazing it was not complete and clean. John's pitch on the high notes are not good and some words are mumbled or just "do do doos" which is understandable, it's a demo. I'd rather they cut it off than use full AI to recreate his voice and add some lyrics. On a side note, I don't think it is bad to have a backing vocal " I dont want to lose you..." only, on the bridge while the solo slide is played. But I guess the lyrics won't fit for what they are going for.
@@riezexeero7392 Personally, I don't mind some pitch corrections. John is no longer with us, and while I am sure he would have wanted to do it right and natural, so many living artists already use it at this point. Backing vocals from Paul and Ringo could have fixed some parts like they did on the other two Anthology tracks to cut in and out on his weak parts or unfinished parts.
My only real complaint with it is that Paul didn’t really attempt to fill it out lyrically like he & George did with “Free as a Bird.” Part of what made Beatles songs great was the interplay between Lennon&McCartney’s very different approaches to lyricism in the same songs. I can’t help but feel he could’ve added something to distract from/ even replace the godawful rhyme of “because of you” with “because of you” which was probably only meant to be a fill-in line to fit the syllables for something else later, and as it stands it’s the most obvious giveaway that the Lennon vocals weren’t finished.
I’ve been saying the song sounds unfinished to me and I couldn’t put my finger on why. I think you might have perfectly captured why I felt that way. They took John’s sweet, melancholy little demo and tried to make the song something that didn’t fit it. So you have John’s voice and demo doing one thing and everything else in the background doing something else. And I don’t know if it works. That background music would be so pretty with a different song, that solo is nice, the strings are nice. But it doesn’t work.
well said. As much as i want it it work, it doesnt. Its a basic premise for a late 1970s song, that doesnt go anywhere. It needed a new lyrical angle, to augment the basic lyrical idea. Plus, they have hijacked Johns idea, snd taken it in a different direction. The original was most likely aimed at Yoko. The other problem, and the same issue existed with Free as a Bird, the track is over produced.
It is because THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995. GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION! The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME! It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had! They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song! IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER! Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
Oh of course Fantano doesn’t like it, always has to be the contrarian. You can’t listen to this in a vacuum , they told us what this was going to be and as an encapsulation of everything Beatles, it works very well - all the trappings are in there. Production like Imagine is the last thing anyone wanted. If you want the song presented as a John Lennon solo track, go listen to the demo. It’s not going anywhere.
Poetic that Paul spent years raging about how Phil Spector (recommended by Lennon) destroyed his simple piano song The Long and Winding road by adding strings and too much overblown stuff, only for him to do now the same to Lennon's song.
I thought it was ok. It definitely wasn't the "mind-blowing, final Beatles song" that I feel it was hyped up to be, but I still think it's worth a listen if you're a Beatles fan. It definitely feels more modern than what one would expect from a Beatles tune; it reminds me a lot of Paul's newer albums with hints of Radiohead on the production side. I wasn't initially sold when I heard the isolated John vocal in the video, but in context with the rest of the instruments, I thought it really did sound like him.
I agree with what you're saying, but a song that wasn't released for 50 years isn't the band's best song and sounds more modern after being given modern production? Crazy.
@@Billiamwoods I'm not saying I thought it was gonna be their best song. I'm saying that it was hyped up as the "Final Beatles Song." A title like that plants a lot of expectations in a listener's head, so people who buy into the hype are definitely gonna be disappointed.
I couldn't disagree with everything you said more. It's a haunting, quiet, empathetic tune that ties up a legacy unmatched by any other musical group. It reminds me of a quiet grandparent humming a song of their past. Of course this is not groundbreaking or new. It's raw and sentimental. I loved it and it made me reflect on all of what the Beatles have given to the music world.
I think this is great. They have a long, long, long career ahead of them.
Hope everything doesn’t go all helter-skelter and they break up after only like ten years.
@@TheAndrewj96 I don't think that'll happen, they seem to have really come together
Really enjoyed them thus far. I've got to get them into my life more
Yeah, it really is something
@@CL2- For real, I hope they Don't Let Me Down.
Okay I cried. It’s not the best Beatles song, but it is undeniably a Beatles song, with all of the original members. I’m truly lucky to be a 25 year old who gets to experience this.
I listened to it, then listened to Here Today, and also cried.
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995.
GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION!
The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME!
It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had!
They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song!
IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER!
Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
@@stillaliveplus1forme The song is not a masterpiece and they were right to cut that section.
@@stillaliveplus1formelol do you think they heard it and just thought “damn we’re spending all this time finalizing John’s demo but we actually don’t like him so we’re gonna cut out his song” they couldn’t clean up and equalize all of the song. they could’ve either re recorded that part and it not be played or sung by john, or they could keep the whole song being played and sung by john
@@stillaliveplus1formethere’s no way you use tik tok if you think this is a tik tok song. far from it. you may not like it that’s fine but let some of that hate out of your heart away from the beatles please
I really love this song - the story behind it and its long journey to becoming a finished work is so unique and fascinating. The Beatles and John in particular were constantly experimenting with cutting edge technologies and effects, so I do think John would have been thrilled by the whole thing.
The song itself is quite touching, bittersweet and slightly melancholic which fits perfectly as “the last Beatles song,” I think. They didn’t overdo it with the orchestral touches either. Obviously it’s never going to stack up against their catalog but it’s a nice, pleasant coda to a legendary run. And I like that they seemed to make it sound more like the music John was doing around the time he recorded the original demo, rather than trying for another Strawberry Fields Forever or something.
You should say Paul in particular as well. It was Paul who found out how to manipulate the tape machine by removing the eraser head to make tape loops. He then showed the rest how to do it and spearheaded the idea on Tomorrow Never Knows. Paul was constantly pushing them to experiment
Not a massive Beatles listener but I also really enjoyed this song. They were experimental and innovative with how they turned the demo into a finished song, which I definitely prefer over if they tried being more "safe" with their interpretation like what Fantano described wanting the song to be like in the video.
Well said, couldn't agree more!
Thumbs up for a comment about the music and not a meme
Love them
I never thought I'd hear "New Beatles dropped today" in my life
I really liked it, I think the large sound Paul and Ringo were going for was kind of a nice send off. I can only imagine that the reason they chose to bury the voice a little was because when put through the AI, the demo vocal track, recorded in an apartment sounds slightly awkward when put in front of studio recorded instruments. So the final product to me actually sounds quite impressive and as a Beatles fan I’m really satisfied with how it turned out.
100% to all this
On point man! I agree with you. I don't understand why he say the music/piano is too loud.
Well said. Couldn’t agree more
Agreed! I think Melon had a quite bitter take on this which I didn't like :/
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995.
GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION!
The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME!
It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had!
They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song!
IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER!
Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
Finally they dropped some good music. Hope they keep it up
It took them a while tbh
💀💀💀💀💀
They should release a album called" Revolver" tbh , Cool name
I'll give them a few years to mature and grow into themselves. Could end up being a good group, might go far
I don't like their music. besides, guitar is on the way out.
I hope someone gets this.
feels good not being a music reviewer and just enjoying a song for what it is 😭❤️
FACTS
He didn't not enjoy it because he's a music reviewer. He just didn't enjoy it. I don't know why people think that being a reviewer makes you like things less.
@@franciscofarias6385 he’s more prone to nitpicking
@@franciscofarias6385I guess it just makes him more likely to see the faults in a song, and to review the song in a vacuum, which removes some of the sentimentality that we usually have when thinking or listening to music.
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It's weird I'm living in a time where I get to hear a new Beatles song, especially being younger. To me it feels like a good conclusion, even if production wasn't the best at least intentions behind it were good, and it's well enough made.
they didn't have too much to work with tbh.
"Well enough" is a phrase that should never be connected to The Beatles.
@@derkeheath5172so true
@@derkeheath5172I mean when two of them are dead and the other two are 80 I think well enough is pretty good
What about the production wasn’t the best. It sounds awesome for what they had to work with.
It isn't a masterpiece. But it's a satisfying conclusion to a legacy of one of the most important artists in music or general.
And the fact that the Beatles used a new technology in their music is just a repeat of what they have always done even in the past.
It's just AI bro lol
@@RunningP123456 still counts as new technology
it's a nice parallel to what they did in '65-69
@@RunningP123456it's still entirely John's voice, they just isolated his track
AI or not George Harrison was right it's terrible. Fuck it
@@RunningP123456Are you dumb bro? , lol
I get what you’re saying about Paul and Ringo’s contributions
I think it really came down to the song being like ‘Real Love’ where it was clearly just a John Lennon song with not a lot of space for anything else so I understand them wanting to over-contribute to make it a Beatles song which they were always going to struggle to do
They did really well with Free as Bird to make that a Beatles song
I think so too.
That's completely wrong
There was just as much space as in Free As A Bird in the bridge that they just cut out completely instead of finishing it's lyrics. This whole thing is awful.
@@jonasrmb01 All criticism and discussion is welcome, but calling someone "completely wrong" and saying "this whole thing is awful" is, in itself, awful. Your opinion is terribly worded/formulated and I'm sure most people would disagree with you. Sorry, you're in the deep minority on this one. If you wanna share negative opinions, at least do it in a way that promotes civil discussion.
Free As A Bird is pure magic.
Amazing recording.
Free as a Bird is such a good song.
In a vacuum, I don't disagree with Melon, but since it's a standalone single being billed as the last Beatles track, I don't think they could realistically go with the type of subtle, understated production that he's suggesting. If they had actually released this track on the Anthology, then that would make way more sense because it would be part of a three song collection. But on it's own, they had to add enough instrumentation and production that would at least somewhat live up to the hype.
Agreed. I dig it.
Yes, in the context of it being the final Beatles song, something epic and grand sounding like what they did is much more fitting.
so, you're saying for entirely non-artistic reasons, the artistry had to be compromised. Not very Beatles, actually.
@xBINARYGODx Lad the beatles recorded 13 albums in 7 years. It's more accurate to say this IS Beatles like cause in the Beatlemania days they had to flood albums onto the market as fast as possible, ending up a number of their albums filled with covers. PPS, WtB, BFS, all had covers filling those up. So it is like the Beatles to compromise artistry for business and non artistic reasons
And this is why artists shouldn't let external factors, such as public hype, effect the work itself, because it almost always yields a lesser result long-term.
I’m not sure if this is super common knowledge, but this song was included on a cassette tape of demos John made that was labeled “for Paul”. Yoko gave Paul the cassette (in 1994) and felt John wanted to work on them with Paul.
Therefore, I feel Paul’s contributions are welcome, and it’s a nice gesture that two 80ish-year old guys would put in the time and effort to honour a fallen bandmate (two technically) who were not able to see through the completion of the track.
It’s common knowledge that it was meant for Paul Hogan; the Australian actor that went on to achieve fame in the 80s. John Lennon considered him his brother 🫂
there is no evidence that the cassette was labeled “For Paul”. it’s a popular Beatles myth
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995.
GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION!
The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME!
It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had!
They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song!
IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER!
Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
I’m glad they brought back John from the dead just to record this song. Now that’s dedication.
I mean, it's not like he or George were busy.
@@heathercameron1485brings a whole new meaning to “Here comes the sun”
@@marcgw496Maybes hes a tree or something
deadication
can’t wait for the beatles reunion tour 🙏
💀
These guys sound good, I think they might make it big
2 are dead.. 🤷♂️
@@7colliemac bru
@@_Butterscotch_ That’s the truth.. 🤷♂️
I still can’t say how surreal it is to have new Beatles music in 2023 but I still absolutely love it, like it’s undoubtedly a beautiful song and it’s just incredible being able to hear John’s voice again… The Beatles with the very first band I got into back when I started playing guitar at age 10 (I’m 24 now) and they’re still a huge reason why I wanted to play music in the first place so just to hear John's genuine vocals is just still crazy to me but it’s an absolutely great song and I’ve been listening to it so many times so far. I love it
I was born in 2000, yet I have been a Beatles fan my entire life, they are my favorite band of all time, and never in a million years did I think that I would be able to actually experience the joy of being able to have a Beatles song released in my lifetime. What a privilege to finally be able to hear the completed song and the final song of the greatest band in history, and I can't wait for the music video's release tomorrow. Thank you, Paul, John, George, Ringo, Olivia, Yoko, and everyone who made this possible. I literally cannot thank you enough.
Ya thanks Yoko, for breaking the greatest band of all time
beatles are mid af
@@umbreonben now you can say that, but back then, no sir
@@anshuuu9708this song isn't doing the Beatles legacy any good. They Should've stopped with let it be
@@anshuuu9708This Yoko character must be strong to break four guys all by herself. You'd think the numbers advantage would be overwhelming
They peaked at “Bohemian Rhapsody” tbh
Idk, I feel like “Dark Side of The Moon” overshadows Bohemian Rhapsody
I have to agree
cue spit take.
That's a Rolling Stones song, idiot.
Highly debatable
Still waiting on Mozart to drop. Blud fell off big time
He's still trying to master the 808 drum machine 😅
i absolutely adored it and cried endlessly
Don’t get dehydrated now.
Its not the end of the beatles until they release carnival of light
I understand the viewpoint but i still like it and disagree. This tape was made by john and is in the styling of a john song, not a beatles song. They then also had to get what little of george they had for one day of trying to make this in the 90s and then mix it all together. The fact that it even sounds as good as it does is an achievement in itself. Paul and ringo have also both had their own solo careers and their own sounds, so for them to manage to turn this into a beatles esque song while not sounding dated is just so impressive to me.
I know paul proved he could make a lennon song with let me roll it but to turn lennons tape into something that feels like a bookend a sound that they havent really made for 60 odd years, its just cool
It's also cool that the ended their career with industry changing technology, very on brand
What is the style of a Beatles song exactly?
@diddybopper2052 it's difficult to explain its just a feeling
@@pinkbeatle2012a feeling deep inside?
Agree
@@diddybopper2052Oh yeah!
It's beautiful melody and John's voice is great
The Love Me Do remaster is absolutely incredible with a good sound system. You should go over that/the new remasters when they come out. It makes me thrilled to hear all these songs in a new light.
please no. Fantano has a very poor understanding of The Beatles' music
releasing their final song altogether with a remaster of their first song from their very first album was such a genious move!
Remix, not remaster.
@@machiel5888 "Fantano has a very poor understanding of The Beatles' music" how so?
Yes, the remaster is excellent, very crisp. there is a bit of reverb on the harmonica solo, at least a slightly odd effect.
What I find so strange is that The Beatles technically had the best finale with Real Love (which some feel shouldnt count as a Beatles song as the demo had been released years earlier on bootlegs and compilations, but by that logic Now and Then doesn't count either). It's a much better song than Free As A Bird and Now and Then and hugely satifying finale to what many consider the greatest band of all time. Its amazing that for a band as overdiscussed as them, Real Love is barely mentioned.
I agree Real Love is one of the most undiscussed songs of theirs that doesn’t deserve to be at all
I used to prefer Real Love, then found new appreciation in Free As A Bird, and now think maybe Now and Then is my favourite, but too early to tell.
Let it be is the best farewell song they overdid this we're retiring gimmick but that's what most great artists and athletes do they retire then unretire most times
i don't really like Real Love all that much, it's very much in there on john's cornier side that showed up a lot at the end of his career, really catchy but not my vibe. but i think you're right. they managed to give it a really Beatley sound in a way that sounded authentic, whereas Now and Then feels more contrived. The backing vocals, Ringo's booming tom fills, the little guitar licks, simple piano, a catchy pop melody with a surprising, slightly moody chorus, even a little harpsichord. it's also fitting that it feels like a song that could play over the credits of a beatles doc lol
@@artistaccount actually Abbey Road was their farewell, chronologically speaking. Can't get a better finale than that. You make a valid point though. They're kinda overdoing it lol
The Beatles dropped before carti
What a universe we live in
I'm personally more amazed they dropped before Jamiroquai.
i think this could've been one of their great hits back then. its just that good.
cant stop listening. really delivers the surreal, haunting feelings of a past john lennon.
Idk I really liked the bass in it. I’d say drums were slightly too prominent, and George’s guitar part could’ve been a little more prominent. But I’m not gonna whine, I’m very grateful we got this. Can understand why you might think it’s too dense compared to the demo
Ringo and Paul are both in their '80s at the time of this coming out. A pretty solid entry for rocking that old! Makes you think about what your grandparents do?! The mix is a bit off tho
I love this song. I think the fact you can hear a 60s Lennon, 90s Harrison, and 2020s McCartney and Star really adds to the story of the track. And overall I just connect to it.
I'm not even a huge Beatles fan but I liked it. Felt wistful and melancholic but also thankful for all the wonderful people in your life. A fitting swan song.
The juxtaposition of the somber-ish vocal with the progressively more upbeat accompaniment encapsulates their range pretty well. Not the best Beatles track of course but pretty decent considering the context.
Almost every time you say something is bad, it is actually good.
Typical that he doesn't like any song
I think you nailed it, technically speaking, from around 5.10 onwards. I concur 100%. . . BUT . . . I still found the song incredibly moving…How could you not?
He ain’t called the internet’s most sentimental music nerd.
I've been a fan of the Beatles for all my life and anticipated this song and I'm not really moved by it. I won't even call it a cool track as Fontano. Cause I don't really like Paul's solo work. And this sounds more like a Paul's solo song than a John's song.
Because the song sucks
Yeah, it really pulled at the heart strings for me personally
It's a scrap song. If this was on one of his solo albums in the 70s, nobody would care about it
I didn't like it on first listen but after watching this video I think that it is the best song I've ever heard. Thank you Anthony
Are you joking or being serious? Genuinely asking
@@KingCrimson68 no joke it actually feels inauthentic and trying to give an end to something that has already ended
@@user-up4xi8go9lI don't think it's trying to end something, it's more of a tribute
@@user-up4xi8go9l you say this but the track was labeled "for paul" and they indeed TRIED to finish it in the 90s and put it down. oaul and ringo are getting older, more sentimental. thinking EVERYTHING is a money grab is dilusional
It is the story about making the song coupled with modern technology that makes it a good tribute to the band
I feel like the density of the song was a bit of a necessity. I don’t think an intimate song would live up to the 30 year buildup. They had to pump it up a bit and make it exciting.
Also from what I've heard of the vocals without any of the instruments, a single word does end up sounded artificial and needs instruments to try and hide it.
A "mess"? That's not fair. Sounds great.
I’m definitely loving the new direction they went on with the drill beat and the great choice of King Von as a feature
I think the "Chopped and Screwed" version is a bit much, but other than that, I agree with your points
@@beaualoevvstop outing yourself
Can't wait for the club remix 😅
Isn't that Paul McCartney guy from FourFiveSeconds on this track?
I’m so glad that the Beatles can put aside their difference after all these years and make some more music. Really touching
The bass and drums really aren't that obnoxious, lmao. They're pretty comfortable in the mix IMO.. because it's a song that's driving forward. I get why the original demo gives more slow and downbeat vibes that could have been stuck to here.
But I think following that structure would have been a big mistake. They clearly wanted this version to be more uplifting, rather than walk away with a downer.
Perhaps you can intellectualise it and say the downer would be a better song. And maybe it would be. But I also think that's massively missing the point in this case.
I dunno I did find the drums horrible to listen to. Completely agree with melon here and am sad about it cause I had high hopes after Real Love.
if it's a sad song, let it be (heh) a sad song. that would be more emotionally impactful for a final Beatles song than trying to jazz it up Phil Spektor stylee
@@rodsterlingoftwilightzonefamehorrible.
you called it horrible
What a time we’re living in
bro these beatles people are pretty fire they should make more music
I totally disagree with your take. The guitar licks sound great to me, and the drums and bass sound appropriate to me, they’re pretty low in the mix compared to the singing and rhythm guitar. I think you’re being over critical, as I often feel.
I liked the song. It’s quite powerful in the lyrics and Lennon’s voice. The unfairness of his death rings through. It has this parting feeling transcending a relationship extending to one’s mortality. The extra voices and instrumentation I could do without but they don’t ruin it.
I enjoyed the song, its not like it blew me away or anything but it is certainly nice to hear a Beatles song I havent heard 10000000 times already.
If you’ve heard every Beatles song 10,000,000 times you have been listening to them without pause for over 12 millennia.
@@daviebananas1735 i have…its been rough
I’m going to disagree here. It actually did blow me away on first listen.
not a lot of beatles songs are commercialized because they're expensive af, either someone near you always blasts their music or your parents or grandparents always plays them, because I have not heard a single beatles song being played in malls or other places
@@daviebananas1735 Not if you listen to all songs simultaneously
Come on fantano this song is quite good, you're right about the verse change,
They also deleted off the best part of the demo being John's falsetto, quite sad but its still a great track
I still consider Free as a Bird to be better but maybe this track might grow on me
Everybody complains: "It's too safe. it needed more experimentation, more instruments", and "this was over-produced, it needed to be more minimalistic and melancholic like the demo".
*BE HAPPY WE GOT A NEW BEATLES SONG!*
That paul and Ringo got out of retirement, had fun in the studio and made this gift for us fans and for Lennon and Harrison.
Something with so much hype as "the final beatles song based on one the most beloved Lennon demos" will never please everyone.
I agree, it needs remixing and the strings and guitars do fight in the mix, but it's still great and has the feels of a classic beatles song which is an achievement.
I can imagine this song being an Abby Road B-side.
Paul and Ringo set out to make a tribute song for their lost friends and play the final note of their legacy, and they got the job done.
Saw Macca two weeks ago was epic. This new track is like a delicious dessert.
PJ needs some credit for what he's done for the "revival" as of late.
It sounds more like a Double Fantasy outtake than a Beatles song.
It’s a great song. I was calling it just a “good song,” for a bit now. but it really is a great song, and the only reason people would diss on it is because the beatles discography is so strong
No, THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995.
GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION!
The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME!
It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had!
They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song!
IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER!
Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
This song feels like John not being in the studio stopping Paul from doing anything he wants to his song.
Imagine a world where Sting died in the early nineties and Trudie digs up personal demos of Sting music destine for The Soul Cages or Ten Summoner’s Tales and hands them over to Andy & Stewart to get produced and marketed as “The final Police song”.
Something that might be important about Paul's guitar work is he supposedly meant it as a tribute to the instrumental George recorded for what would've been the Anthology 3 version of Now and Then. How accurate that is we'll never know, but Paul said that in the short film they released for the song. I can understand if Paul and Ringo wanted a big stamp from George to be there on the song, that they'd go ahead with what he envisioned the guitar to be in 1996.
I think what Anthony fails to appreciate is the fact that us zoomers didn't grow up with Anthology, and it was our parents who had the privilege to be able to go out and buy the then-newest Beatles singles "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love". For the first 20 years of my life, I legitimately thought they'd never finish "Now And Then" and that there would never be a new Beatles single for our generation. It was a bit of a nihilistic thought, considering I'm a huge Beatles fan, but it was realistic for the 20 years that it lasted. When Paul announced this in June, I jumped in the air with joy. Finally, a Beatles single that's brand new for my generation! That's the aspect of the song that historically makes a lot of sense, and I'm so sad that nobody has ever touched on this aspect before. Also, when the news that this track utilized AI stem separation technology initially came out in June, Anthony made this dumb little video on his UA-cam Shorts channel where he proclaimed it to be 'the worst idea ever'. I wish he could admit he was wrong about that instead of sidestepping that viewpoint in this video. Sure, it was a UA-cam Shorts video from 4 months ago, it's disposable, nobody's seen it since. But I went back to it. It wasn't funny.
I highly doubt Anthony will ever read this, because he has better things to do than sit around and even touch my comment. I just wanted to say this anyways, because it's worth knowing all the things that he neglected to mention in this video regarding his views on the track. (By the way, the track is gorgeous in my view.)
Yeah, he won't admit that because he is always right yah. Sometimes he makes this weird reviews for clicks. Seen it with some other bands. Wish we have reviewers who are open minded and unbiased.
He's a big foo. Laughable
@@riezexeero7392he literally just doesn't like it, what are you talking about? This isn't a fake opinion for views
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995.
GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION!
The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME!
It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had!
They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song!
IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER!
Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
i think its spot on for late 60s beatles sound, just sounds much cleaner in general, also has the essence of free as a bird and real love, that without peter jackson make johns voice a lot more raw
Who what? No it doesn't sound like late 60s Beatles at all. It's definitely not psychedelic. It sounds like a Lennon demo with extras.
@@sainthuckelberry bass licks are straight out of revolver, orchestration sounds like anything george martin made for them, harmonies… i really don’t think i need to explain myself, or you need a new set of ears lol
@@sendjamin idk agree to disagree. The guitar lines sound like 70s George Harrison solo. Drum mix also sounds 70s solo work (Ringo drummed on at least some of Lennon's solo stuff). The harmonies and orchestration do, I agree, but they are only in 1/3rd of the song. Like, most of this sounds like a Lennon solo project at best
THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995.
GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION!
The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME!
It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had!
They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song!
IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER!
Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
Of course, he wasn't gonna like it... what a surprise...
It is shit to be fair. And I say that as a huge Beatles fan.
My only thought listening to the first minute was. "MAN the piano on this is loud"
So they can release this but not Carnival of Light?
man. this song is still a beatles song, that means its still 10/10 in comparison to music in general.
i liked it
I think what mr fantano doesnt understand is that they didnt intend to create a good John lennon solo song, but wanted to create a beatles song and were obviously limited to what they could do. They could have made this an imagine era piece but that would mean taking out all the beatles elements of the song (like pauls licks, over stylish bassline typical in post revolver work, and their signature strings with a counter melody). I think this was a lovely send off to the Beatles and a reminder of what we used to have
Its a great song Anthony, if you don't get too hung up on the demo, it cannot be a Beatles song if other members don't play on it, so it being dense and also modern, was pretty much expected. And since it is the last ever song, strings added a nice extra layer of ornamentation. IMO, its masterfully done.
But many Beatles songs don’t have all 4 members playing on them?
@@daviebananas1735many abbey road songs and white album songs are missing members
It would still be nice to have a finished version with just John. Get it done Yoko!
@@daviebananas1735it's completely different because this is their last song
Its not a beatles song though, its a demo from the late 70s. They took a late John solo demo and made it something that just isnt it.
Why do I feel like I listened to a completely different mix than him?
Could be his speakers. On my headphones and car, I didn't feel like the drums were overly prominent. They kind of sounded like in the background for me, like am echo
What's bad about this version is that they delete a huge part of the song which has John's falsetto. Really takes away a lot.
Probably because the quality on that part of the recording was bad
It’s an overrated and unfinished section - I see nothing wrong in them not including it
@@badgasaurus4211your comment is bullshit smh ✌️
I'm 100% certain they had to cut that part because the software being used couldn't adequately seperate that section of the vocals from the piano. What is included in this release is all they would have been able to salvage.
I assume that you mean the "I don't wanna lose you" part. I think it's because of the quality and the lyrics in that part is not complete.
Honestly my only gripe with the song is that Paul just isn’t able to harmonise with John any more. I think the song would sound a million times better if we had 80s Paul’s voice singing along John.
Absolutely spot on with this review. It was the type of melody that needed a delicate arrangement/production, which a final Beatles song was never going to get.
Personally I think it's kind of average by Beatles standards, but it's more powerful for being the last piece of music we'll ever get from them
i thought apple bottom jeans was the final beatles song
I'm waiting for the john lennon hologram
Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if this actually happened within the near future
This isn’t the type of song you can criticize on its technical merit. The emotional weight behind makes it beautiful (it’s also a good song). This is Paul and Ringo’s goodbye to John and George. Yes it’s mixed a little weird and overproduced but when the instrumental section came in, I got a warm feeling in my chest.
I knew melon wouldn’t like it, he has no emotion.
That's a bit unfair, I've been a huge Beatles fan for years and have been invested emotionally for just as long. I really appreciate this as a goodbye to John (tho I think that was already achieved with Real Love/Free as a Bird, which I loved), but I was pretty disappointed in the actual song. Gotta agree with Melon on this one.
If you have a background in production or engineering you unfortunately can’t not evaluate it on those terms. It’s sad when a prolific mixing engineer brick walls the hell out of a nice song.
@@ginggrimson424give it another lesson
@@ramoniboy Tbh I did and it grew on me lol
@@ginggrimson424 same thing happened for me, it kind of just clicked. it’s not a masterpiece but it’s far better than what i had expected
That's the thing. The first thought I had was: Too much. No space. And it just just sounds like Grandpa Paul style. But hey as a piece of "All Beatles back together" art I appreciate it.
I think what people forget is that these 3 songs were Lennon home demos of songs that were unfinished musically and lyrically.
Yeah and these "critics" expect more... from an unfinished demo. Wtf 😂
@@riezexeero7392 If it’s silly to expect a good song, then it shouldn’t have been released. The Beatles shouldn’t be releasing dreadful rehashes of weak demos.
We're never getting carnival of light are we?
No. The End.
@@CGR0620Oh YeAh!1! AlRiGhT! ArE YoU GOnna be in ma DREaMs ToNiGhT?!?!?!?’vvvvbv
Most predictable review of this track.
I wish I could write just one song that could be so touching. In my book, The Beatles were it.
i think that if theyd worked on it more in the 90s George would have put on a lot more lead slide guitar, I learned the song today and worked out a lil slide solo ala George for it hehe
Wow Melon, you finally actually read the articles about the song and not just the headlines? So proud of you.
Absolutely incredible send off for the greatest band ever
Just because music is now over doesn’t mean you have to retaliate with a middling review, Anthony
I think your criticisms are valid, but I think you're thinking of this as a John Lennon song because that's what you want it to be. Sure it might've been more touching if it was just John and a piano, like Imagine, but then it wouldn't have been a Beatles song and it would've stayed a demo.
Commenting before I watch cause I feel like Fantano gonna be a bitch and call it trash. I fucking love this song. The way the title and the lyrics make for a perfect bookend to the Beatles catalog and perfectly capture the circumstances surrounding the song is amazing. It’s very fitting and poetic. It’s cool how life does that sometimes. I’ve listened to it like 100 times already and it gets better everytime. It captures now and it captures then. The two meet in love. Jolly good tune.
Yep, he is doing it for the clicks and we all got baited! 😂
The final Beatles song should have always been "The End"
You simply can't get a better closer than that.
The end, her majesty, old brown shoe, get back, I want you (she’s so heavy), I me mine, you know my name (look up the number) free as a bird, real love and now now and then. Take your pick on these hotly debated last Beatles songs
It reminds me of one of those tribute concert performances, where the stage is packed with extra musicians strumming along just to be there. I feel if just the acoustic guitars were removed, the other instruments in the mix would sound much better.
Would have preferred Paul to finally release 'Carnival of Light,' but this honestly wasn't that bad.
"Carnival of Light" is just 17 minutes of noise
@@overlookers Oh, I don't expect it to be listenable at all. I just *need* to hear it.
"Why did the other Beatles record more parts for the song, why didn't they make it a John Lennon solo track?" -Anthony Fantano. I don't love the song either, but your critique is kinda silly. It feels like The Beatles, it doesn't feel any more saturated than other Beatles fair.
You put a lot of thought in a song where two of the members are dead. Its a nice nostalgic piece of music, just that. If you want the beatles they have lots of albums they all contribute. Now this, is just a gift. Licks are not even that exagerated xD Paul played like that all the time, and the more he aged the more he did
Classic Fantano L
Best Beatles song ever…nope.
A sweet little song with all of the Fab Four that is pleasant and catchy…yup! I am glad it exist. It didn’t have to be released…but it was…and I am here for it.
2:57 Anthony’s AI hologram glitches for a second
There was some fan mix that had a more psychedelic feel and was filled with a lot of stuff but I enjoyed more. I was disappointed they cut the parts "I don't want to lose you, oh no... Lose you or confuse you, oh no, but if you have to..." Etc, etc
While the cut line was amazing it was not complete and clean. John's pitch on the high notes are not good and some words are mumbled or just "do do doos" which is understandable, it's a demo. I'd rather they cut it off than use full AI to recreate his voice and add some lyrics. On a side note, I don't think it is bad to have a backing vocal " I dont want to lose you..." only, on the bridge while the solo slide is played. But I guess the lyrics won't fit for what they are going for.
@@riezexeero7392 Personally, I don't mind some pitch corrections. John is no longer with us, and while I am sure he would have wanted to do it right and natural, so many living artists already use it at this point. Backing vocals from Paul and Ringo could have fixed some parts like they did on the other two Anthology tracks to cut in and out on his weak parts or unfinished parts.
My only real complaint with it is that Paul didn’t really attempt to fill it out lyrically like he & George did with “Free as a Bird.” Part of what made Beatles songs great was the interplay between Lennon&McCartney’s very different approaches to lyricism in the same songs. I can’t help but feel he could’ve added something to distract from/ even replace the godawful rhyme of “because of you” with “because of you” which was probably only meant to be a fill-in line to fit the syllables for something else later, and as it stands it’s the most obvious giveaway that the Lennon vocals weren’t finished.
I’ve been saying the song sounds unfinished to me and I couldn’t put my finger on why. I think you might have perfectly captured why I felt that way. They took John’s sweet, melancholy little demo and tried to make the song something that didn’t fit it. So you have John’s voice and demo doing one thing and everything else in the background doing something else. And I don’t know if it works. That background music would be so pretty with a different song, that solo is nice, the strings are nice. But it doesn’t work.
well said. As much as i want it it work, it doesnt. Its a basic premise for a late 1970s song, that doesnt go anywhere. It needed a new lyrical angle, to augment the basic lyrical idea. Plus, they have hijacked Johns idea, snd taken it in a different direction. The original was most likely aimed at Yoko. The other problem, and the same issue existed with Free as a Bird, the track is over produced.
It is because THEY CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF THE NOW AND THEN DEMO! I’m so angry fantano didn’t mention it. Paul and George, Jeff Lynn and Ringo going along CUT OUT THE BEST PART OF NOW AND THEN IN 1995.
GO LISTEN TO THE ORIGINAL DEMO IT HAD 2 HOOKS AND THEY CUT ONE OF THEM THE “I DON’T WANT TO LOSE YOU” SECTION!
The song was written in 1978 and the John demo has a chord change and section that sounds like something Lewis Capaldi might do SUPER AHEAD OF ITS TIME!
It was a much darker section but it was so emotionally powerful and added to that somber feeling the song had!
They missed the mark completely. This song was a somber masterpiece 40 years ahead of it’s time. All they had to do was make it sound like a modern piano ballad with some floor to drive it. Instead they turned it into a tik tok pop song for the Beatles and cut out the best part of the song!
IM DEVASTATED AT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY. This honestly could have been one of Johns BEST songs EVER!
Pls Pls go listen to the original demo and hear how amazing the “I don’t wanna lose you” part is!
All this and yet the new stones album only got a UA-cam short :/
Oh of course Fantano doesn’t like it, always has to be the contrarian. You can’t listen to this in a vacuum , they told us what this was going to be and as an encapsulation of everything Beatles, it works very well - all the trappings are in there. Production like Imagine is the last thing anyone wanted. If you want the song presented as a John Lennon solo track, go listen to the demo. It’s not going anywhere.
Poetic that Paul spent years raging about how Phil Spector (recommended by Lennon) destroyed his simple piano song The Long and Winding road by adding strings and too much overblown stuff, only for him to do now the same to Lennon's song.
I thought it was ok. It definitely wasn't the "mind-blowing, final Beatles song" that I feel it was hyped up to be, but I still think it's worth a listen if you're a Beatles fan. It definitely feels more modern than what one would expect from a Beatles tune; it reminds me a lot of Paul's newer albums with hints of Radiohead on the production side. I wasn't initially sold when I heard the isolated John vocal in the video, but in context with the rest of the instruments, I thought it really did sound like him.
I agree with what you're saying, but a song that wasn't released for 50 years isn't the band's best song and sounds more modern after being given modern production? Crazy.
@@Billiamwoods I'm not saying I thought it was gonna be their best song. I'm saying that it was hyped up as the "Final Beatles Song." A title like that plants a lot of expectations in a listener's head, so people who buy into the hype are definitely gonna be disappointed.
We making it out of Liverpool with this one, mates
Cant believe they revived john to do the song
I like the song’s mix in the context of the music video, like that was clearly what it was mixed for.
I couldn't disagree with everything you said more. It's a haunting, quiet, empathetic tune that ties up a legacy unmatched by any other musical group. It reminds me of a quiet grandparent humming a song of their past.
Of course this is not groundbreaking or new. It's raw and sentimental. I loved it and it made me reflect on all of what the Beatles have given to the music world.