@@predatorarmor :D in my prior experiences generally M855 can be shopped by some grades of PE given thickness is there. I wasn't sure if you all had made any tests with seeing how it would handle a 7.5" or 10.5" M855, although generally 10.5" velocity is the limit
@@predatorarmor That lack of ability to stop green tip, or at least lack of reliable ability to defeat it, is the only real drawback of poly plates. In the plus column, they're light enough to actually wear, and that's a factor badly overlooked by many proponents of steel or Level IV as the only acceptable choices. On paper it's great to have armor that can stop every round you can think of and unkind words, but a person's perspective changes pretty quickly when they strap on a rig that weighs as much as a cinder block. What heavy armor really means is that you won't be wearing it, ever. Your only hope is that the enemy will give you a sporting chance to dig it out and sling it on, and provide you with a threat environment where you won't have to wear it for hours or days at a time. Another cool feature of poly plates: If you fall into water, they won't drag you down to your death. If you fall in with steel, chances are they won't find your remains until the next prolonged drought.
In our part of the country the cold weather lasts at least half the year. So it was either wait 3 months for the weather to warm up or test it in the cold. Also who said we left the clay outside all day to get cold and hard? We took the clay box from our shop (which happens to be heated) out to the range for testing. We by no means are trying to say this is an official NIJ test. All our plates are officially tested at an NIJ approved testing facility. We have those lab results on our website.
@@predatorarmor I have a question for you ? I’ve been watching videos on armor the ones I like anyway . But i seen a video on you tube a guy testing body armor and he tested yours but the new 855 and the I want to say m193 round out of a regular rifle I’m saying 22 to 24” barrel 46 yards or feet but had some pass through on your armor ? And I don’t want any spalling fragments from the armor I buy
ay if anyone is afraid of the backface deformation you can get yourself a steel trauma plate that can mitigate most or all backface deformation another alternative I've seen is people using either a 1 inch eva foam mat or a 0.5 mat with a thin paint canvas creating a spaced cushion to mitigate the impact of the BFD
@@ajax1137 yeah, thats why trauma plates exists along with trauma pads if you want a nice alternative you can get yourself a thin metal sheet and put it on top of a half inch thick foam pad and that will do quite well against backface deformation
Glad you busted out the 20" 556 with M193 but I have to be a stickler and tell you thay you need to record velocitoes on these shots. It will increase the credibility .
This was actually a typo on the video it should say 147 grain. The NIJ Standards designate that armor should be tested with 147 grain (U.S. Military designation M80). This was shot with M80 ammo.
Rip. Off. Don't spend the money for the multi curve They're not multi curve at all. The craftsmanship and quality of the coating alone is second grade, and then why would you spend 30 bucks more just to have a quarter inch of the very Corner curved?!!
After tge first shot, ill stick to steel. This is a waste of money unless youre putting it on your kids. But if my kids wear plates, theyll be steel. No weak kids here.
For folks to know. Just buy a trauma armor pad. It will be tight. But if I am correct it should help with shock resistance.
Nice clay box you have there
It is some fine craftsmanship, also nice and heavy
@@predatorarmor Extra exercise with every range trip :D
The real test it putting a foam trauma armor pad behind that polymer to see if it has shock resistance
and a platecarrier also
Cmon man that back force is tremendous. Folks remember those holes he’s measuring is your body
What is the M855 limit on this plate? Are you pressing these yourself?
This plate is not rated to stop M855. It is rated to stop higher velocity M193 but not M855
@@predatorarmor :D in my prior experiences generally M855 can be shopped by some grades of PE given thickness is there. I wasn't sure if you all had made any tests with seeing how it would handle a 7.5" or 10.5" M855, although generally 10.5" velocity is the limit
@@predatorarmor That lack of ability to stop green tip, or at least lack of reliable ability to defeat it, is the only real drawback of poly plates.
In the plus column, they're light enough to actually wear, and that's a factor badly overlooked by many proponents of steel or Level IV as the only acceptable choices. On paper it's great to have armor that can stop every round you can think of and unkind words, but a person's perspective changes pretty quickly when they strap on a rig that weighs as much as a cinder block. What heavy armor really means is that you won't be wearing it, ever. Your only hope is that the enemy will give you a sporting chance to dig it out and sling it on, and provide you with a threat environment where you won't have to wear it for hours or days at a time.
Another cool feature of poly plates: If you fall into water, they won't drag you down to your death. If you fall in with steel, chances are they won't find your remains until the next prolonged drought.
Matt, could you say which PE plates contained m855 in your experience? Thanks.
@@andymorales6907 at full velocity ? So far the prime armor thick one. Otherwise a lot top out at 10.5” barrel velocities
Why would you wait until cold weather to test ? And after you left the clay out all day to get real cold and hard.
In our part of the country the cold weather lasts at least half the year. So it was either wait 3 months for the weather to warm up or test it in the cold. Also who said we left the clay outside all day to get cold and hard? We took the clay box from our shop (which happens to be heated) out to the range for testing.
We by no means are trying to say this is an official NIJ test. All our plates are officially tested at an NIJ approved testing facility. We have those lab results on our website.
@@predatorarmor I have a question for you ? I’ve been watching videos on armor the ones I like anyway . But i seen a video on you tube a guy testing body armor and he tested yours but the new 855 and the I want to say m193 round out of a regular rifle I’m saying 22 to 24” barrel 46 yards or feet but had some pass through on your armor ? And I don’t want any spalling fragments from the armor I buy
ay if anyone is afraid of the backface deformation you can get yourself a steel trauma plate that can mitigate most or all backface deformation
another alternative I've seen is people using either a 1 inch eva foam mat or a 0.5 mat with a thin paint canvas creating a spaced cushion to mitigate the impact of the BFD
Thanks for this. The clay deformations were freaking me out a little bit. Looks painful.
@@ajax1137 yeah, thats why trauma plates exists along with trauma pads
if you want a nice alternative you can get yourself a thin metal sheet and put it on top of a half inch thick foam pad and that will do quite well against backface deformation
What about 7n6 from AK74?
Glad you busted out the 20" 556 with M193 but I have to be a stickler and tell you thay you need to record velocitoes on these shots. It will increase the credibility .
7.62x51 why in the world would you use 144 grain it should be around 168
This was actually a typo on the video it should say 147 grain. The NIJ Standards designate that armor should be tested with 147 grain (U.S. Military designation M80). This was shot with M80 ammo.
6 rounds of m80?
That is correct. At just over 3 pounds it will stop 6 shots of m80 ball round
Rip. Off. Don't spend the money for the multi curve They're not multi curve at all. The craftsmanship and quality of the coating alone is second grade, and then why would you spend 30 bucks more just to have a quarter inch of the very Corner curved?!!
If it EVER costs more than a Spall coated Steel plate ill never buy it. Not worth it. I need multi hit plates.
If you're planning on getting hit more than once, you're probably in the wrong spot bud
After tge first shot, ill stick to steel. This is a waste of money unless youre putting it on your kids. But if my kids wear plates, theyll be steel. No weak kids here.
Relax bud 😂
Your kids should wear ceramics