One thing I’ve found is taping the edges before you cut the fiberglass makes it a lot more manageable. You can easily remove the tape if/when you need to, but it helps hold the fibers together while you move it around.
Anybody see this as a fugazi infomercial?? Nobody puts out content like this to make their product look inferior obviously . Makes me think if he actually tried to make the the diy version not half ass how much better is his product? Its done way better on other videos
Right. I’ve legit never seen anyone’s DIY armor videos made this shabby. It’s like he’s more concerned with sewing than anything else 😂 I’ve never seen a video using a welding blanket that didn’t use resin to make it solid. This video is just embarrassing.
I worked with the same stuff but used resin with 35 layers. Advice with working with fiberglass or carbon fiber is to wear gloves. Tiny sharp particles will stick to your skin and are a pain to get off.
Yes, but it the DIY stuff minus a key component. Glass fiber is like cotton candy and will never stop a bullet. Add some resin, 15 minutes later you have a decent bullet proof shield. This video only reduces trust in the poster.
I have a stainless "steel net coffee filter". Do you think it's possible to use stainless steel net sheet in between several layers of fiberglass; but... with resin? How does your fiberglass only pad work for stabbing
You are right, we should have just folded it half to see the results from that. Didn't think about that on the spot. We will get a follow up video for this one with more layers and show the results.
@@predatorarmorfolding it wouldn’t have helped. Let me know if you want me to send a soft level 3A homemade body armor. I love doing this stuff BTW, I have some of your body armor in my carrier 👍.
@@3RBallistics Awesome to hear! If you have some 3A soft armor then we would be happy to test it out. We always like testing out armor on the channel. Shoot us a message at our contact email and we can make some arrangements.
Have you made "soft" armor that would stop those handguns? If so go ahead and contact us we would be happy to recreate and test out the product. There are plenty of homemade "hard" armor options. We were looking to make a soft armor option with commonly available items.
Thanks for the video, but please say it right, couse "fiberglass and resin " make people buy the white stuff, but as an former aircraft builder at fokker in the netherlands, i know you must have the "yellow " the aramide/kevlar! Otherwise you will end with an "ali expres helmet " not bullet resistant, like the russians are supplied with
Tensile strength varies from 28.25 MPa to 78.83 MPa for Fiberglass.... Aramids have a typical tensile strength about 3000 MPa, so for 9 layers of aramid ~ 9 * [3000/ ((28.25+78.83)/2)] = 505 layers of fiberglass blanket to make it equal in tensile strength capacity. But that is a very rough estimation ... there Is much more that must be taken into consideration to make it work. Wait for next video :D
you guys said in the beginning that panel makers put their stitch count on the product. why didnt you stitch the entire panel?maybe a spiral that goes to the center? or a cross hatch?that would make it super stiff.
when you grow up you can buy your own scissors. i have a large set of the one you have i believe. quinn right? great ones. edit: dude dont think im raggin on ya but when you handle that stuff and sling it around like you did, it falls apart. and, when you sew it sew it up like a quilt. side to side and top to bottom so there are squares an inch big. then double it. hmm that will make it 5 pounds though, but its cheap.
I will stick to the automated cutting machines and lasers and keep borrowing the scissors from someone else. We do not use scissors to cut kevlar or materials in our shop. The whole point was to show that you can make this with common household items. In the video we discussed that different sewing patterns would make a difference on plate performance. With as flimsy as this material is you would probably have to go with a sewing pattern that you discussed. We state that in the video. It will add weight for sure. We would want to stop the round while keeping the weight down as much as possible. This was a first test run to see if it would stop the round and what kind of backface deformation would happen. Seeing as it did not stop the round we will move on to another rendition.
In ancient greece they glued the fiber pannel using animal grease ( i think ) and it stopped arrow. Im wondering how would this work with modern material
Fascinating I am just starting to look into hard body armour but your video is now shifting my notions away from rigid panels, great video, thanks.! With the news here in the UK of potentially starting conscription should a war startvwith Russia, I believe this kind of marerial could be needed sooner than later!!!
I can create a level 2A/2 with 16 layers of the welding blanket plus 12 layers of s-glass (Bondo Autozone stuff) and 2 bottles of $10ea “matrix” materials and one other $2 item - and it will be “soft” just as Hyperline, Hardwire, Alpha Elite soft-panels are … can’t “crumple” but you can bend and fold it and it will contour to your body in conceal carrier … both plates and full coverage (with sides&shoulder coverage). If you send the materials I’ll create, record, and send finished plate back for you to shoot ….
This is the first time I have seen fiber glass without the resin! Most folk use a band saw, yet you use a sewing machine. Would I trust you to protect me?
If you add resin it is no longer soft armor.... It becomes hard armor. The whole point of the video was to make soft armor. There would be no need to sew it if you use resin either.... And yes you would need something akin to a band saw to cut it if resin is used.
One day I'll just do body armor for cosplay purpose, cause I'm bored with way too much free time. I mean there's shops selling 300g/m² kevlar, maybe it could work.
I do have a question if you have one of those full-size soft body armor, the kinds that the military used around 2005, that wraps around a little bit on my waist, and if you want to cut it down to a normal like 10x12 how would you do it?
I'd say don't, the fabric seams to fray fast and easy and you may not be able to make the cover waterproof again, dryrot and moisture pretty much mess up normal fabric so I'm sure it will mess up the Kevlar as well. (only know stuff about clothing fabric but woven fabric is woven fabric)
Electric fabric cutter or handheld cutoff wheel saw (or like a dremmel with a cut off wheel)…you can use a jigsaw too, but have to be sure to clamp down the material you are keeping right up to the edge of the cut or else the fibers will “tear” and pull rather than cut (a fine wood or ideally a blade for cutting polycarbonate it best) I just place a 12-14” x 3-4” x .25” piece of wood or a 14g piece of metal sale dimensions but only 3/16” height. **If you can, get polycarbonate to sandwich it and have it cover the entire are (both sides of where you want to cut, and clamped both sides, and then cut your material along with the polycarbonate (that gives you the best “clean cut”)
@@SeñorDossierOficial Yes. In response to your comment about 25 layers of kevlar would stop it. That depends on the type of kevlar used. For this video we used products that you can get at your local hardware store. We tested a fiberglass welding blanket.
this is why the diy armor guys make their armor hard because alot of them have put in the work to test materials n in diy, soft isnt really viable. i will say this would probably make a great backer to the diy hard plates
PART TWO OUT NOW!
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You can reduce fraying by adding basic clear packing tape over the lines drawn before cutting
Just stopped by to say I appreciate this comment, saved me time.
One thing I’ve found is taping the edges before you cut the fiberglass makes it a lot more manageable. You can easily remove the tape if/when you need to, but it helps hold the fibers together while you move it around.
The rapper?
@@Ollywood2.0First of all, I’m not a rapper.
Anybody see this as a fugazi infomercial?? Nobody puts out content like this to make their product look inferior obviously . Makes me think if he actually tried to make the the diy version not half ass how much better is his product? Its done way better on other videos
Right. I’ve legit never seen anyone’s DIY armor videos made this shabby. It’s like he’s more concerned with sewing than anything else 😂 I’ve never seen a video using a welding blanket that didn’t use resin to make it solid. This video is just embarrassing.
I worked with the same stuff but used resin with 35 layers. Advice with working with fiberglass or carbon fiber is to wear gloves. Tiny sharp particles will stick to your skin and are a pain to get off.
AND A MASK.
@@Kit-vb5rmmy respirator has probably saved my lungs from fiberglass multiple times yeah
Great vid, good to see the professional guys experiment with the diy world also
We are always experimenting with new stuff. The limitation of keeping it sourced from your hardware store adds a nice challenge to it.
Yes, but it the DIY stuff minus a key component. Glass fiber is like cotton candy and will never stop a bullet. Add some resin, 15 minutes later you have a decent bullet proof shield. This video only reduces trust in the poster.
You have to put epoxy resin on each set of 5
I have a stainless "steel net coffee filter". Do you think it's possible to use stainless steel net sheet in between several layers of fiberglass; but... with resin? How does your fiberglass only pad work for stabbing
A guy did it using latex coated fiberglass it works. But not for fmj 9mm
Thank you. More layers? Fold in half.
You are right, we should have just folded it half to see the results from that. Didn't think about that on the spot.
We will get a follow up video for this one with more layers and show the results.
@@predatorarmorfolding it wouldn’t have helped. Let me know if you want me to send a soft level 3A homemade body armor. I love doing this stuff
BTW, I have some of your body armor in my carrier 👍.
@@3RBallistics Awesome to hear!
If you have some 3A soft armor then we would be happy to test it out. We always like testing out armor on the channel. Shoot us a message at our contact email and we can make some arrangements.
......PURPOSE.....
To get people to buy theirs. 🤔
I've made Armour that would easily stop those hand guns.
Have you made "soft" armor that would stop those handguns? If so go ahead and contact us we would be happy to recreate and test out the product. There are plenty of homemade "hard" armor options. We were looking to make a soft armor option with commonly available items.
Thanks for the video, but please say it right, couse "fiberglass and resin " make people buy the white stuff, but as an former aircraft builder at fokker in the netherlands, i know you must have the "yellow " the aramide/kevlar! Otherwise you will end with an "ali expres helmet " not bullet resistant, like the russians are supplied with
Tensile strength varies from 28.25 MPa to 78.83 MPa for Fiberglass....
Aramids have a typical tensile strength about 3000 MPa,
so for 9 layers of aramid ~ 9 * [3000/ ((28.25+78.83)/2)] = 505 layers of fiberglass blanket to make it equal in tensile strength capacity.
But that is a very rough estimation ... there Is much more that must be taken into consideration to make it work. Wait for next video :D
Most homemade will use resin in conjunction with carbon fiber, and it does do the trick. they don't just sow them together.
Ok so here’s one for you.
Mythbusters S9E18 - Bed liner as a blast proofing coating.
Try coating tile based armor with bedliner.
you guys said in the beginning that panel makers put their stitch count on the product. why didnt you stitch the entire panel?maybe a spiral that goes to the center? or a cross hatch?that would make it super stiff.
when you grow up you can buy your own scissors. i have a large set of the one you have i believe. quinn right? great ones.
edit: dude dont think im raggin on ya but when you handle that stuff and sling it around like you did, it falls apart. and, when you sew it sew it up like a quilt. side to side and top to bottom so there are squares an inch big.
then double it.
hmm that will make it 5 pounds though, but its cheap.
I will stick to the automated cutting machines and lasers and keep borrowing the scissors from someone else. We do not use scissors to cut kevlar or materials in our shop. The whole point was to show that you can make this with common household items.
In the video we discussed that different sewing patterns would make a difference on plate performance. With as flimsy as this material is you would probably have to go with a sewing pattern that you discussed. We state that in the video. It will add weight for sure. We would want to stop the round while keeping the weight down as much as possible. This was a first test run to see if it would stop the round and what kind of backface deformation would happen. Seeing as it did not stop the round we will move on to another rendition.
Not gonna matter when he shoots himself in the dick with that appendix carry
If It doesn’t stop a bullet, will it stop fragmentation?
Dude I see your face and expect Hugh Jackmans voice lmao
In ancient greece they glued the fiber pannel using animal grease ( i think ) and it stopped arrow.
Im wondering how would this work with modern material
As far as I can remember the Monguls used heavy silk shirts, with multi layers to stop arrows!
Fascinating I am just starting to look into hard body armour but your video is now shifting my notions away from rigid panels, great video, thanks.! With the news here in the UK of potentially starting conscription should a war startvwith Russia, I believe this kind of marerial could be needed sooner than later!!!
What about if you spray poly urea. Would that do the job
I can create a level 2A/2 with 16 layers of the welding blanket plus 12 layers of s-glass (Bondo Autozone stuff) and 2 bottles of $10ea “matrix” materials and one other $2 item - and it will be “soft” just as Hyperline, Hardwire, Alpha Elite soft-panels are … can’t “crumple” but you can bend and fold it and it will contour to your body in conceal carrier … both plates and full coverage (with sides&shoulder coverage). If you send the materials I’ll create, record, and send finished plate back for you to shoot ….
Question, can you cutdown old soft armour, like a full-size Safariland
I wish closed captions were available
You should use resin on each set of five, then put them together
This is the first time I have seen fiber glass without the resin! Most folk use a band saw, yet you use a sewing machine. Would I trust you to protect me?
If you add resin it is no longer soft armor.... It becomes hard armor. The whole point of the video was to make soft armor. There would be no need to sew it if you use resin either.... And yes you would need something akin to a band saw to cut it if resin is used.
Now I know why there are so many Harbor Freights in the hood
One day I'll just do body armor for cosplay purpose, cause I'm bored with way too much free time.
I mean there's shops selling 300g/m² kevlar, maybe it could work.
Why no ppe with the fiberglass? Makes my skin crawl.
And you need a kevlar sissors haha, special one
How many layers of XP KEVLAR does it take to stop a rifle round. Say, 7.62.
I neuer saw a DIY soft body armer the Video saw the fiberglass Was saturated with resin
Why do they make the so small?
I do have a question if you have one of those full-size soft body armor, the kinds that the military used around 2005, that wraps around a little bit on my waist, and if you want to cut it down to a normal like 10x12 how would you do it?
I'd say don't, the fabric seams to fray fast and easy and you may not be able to make the cover waterproof again, dryrot and moisture pretty much mess up normal fabric so I'm sure it will mess up the Kevlar as well. (only know stuff about clothing fabric but woven fabric is woven fabric)
Electric fabric cutter or handheld cutoff wheel saw (or like a dremmel with a cut off wheel)…you can use a jigsaw too, but have to be sure to clamp down the material you are keeping right up to the edge of the cut or else the fibers will “tear” and pull rather than cut (a fine wood or ideally a blade for cutting polycarbonate it best) I just place a 12-14” x 3-4” x .25” piece of wood or a 14g piece of metal sale dimensions but only 3/16” height. **If you can, get polycarbonate to sandwich it and have it cover the entire are (both sides of where you want to cut, and clamped both sides, and then cut your material along with the polycarbonate (that gives you the best “clean cut”)
I didn't get what did you use for the panel
Fiberglass layers or kevlar layers?
Fiberglass, he just compares it to kevlar here and there as a reference
@@bakionigeri6414 ha, thats why it failed, if it were kevlar those 25 layers would have stopped the 9mm
That depends on what type of kevlar is used. There are ton of variations and use cases of kevlar.
@@predatorarmor but you used fiberglass for the tests?
@@SeñorDossierOficial Yes. In response to your comment about 25 layers of kevlar would stop it. That depends on the type of kevlar used.
For this video we used products that you can get at your local hardware store. We tested a fiberglass welding blanket.
this is why the diy armor guys make their armor hard because alot of them have put in the work to test materials n in diy, soft isnt really viable. i will say this would probably make a great backer to the diy hard plates
Epoxy resin
good content. keep it coming! (3+ stahlhelm, shoulder plates and thigh armor)
More to come!
Hi, i buy UHMWPE for 32.4 dollars per kg, what price do you buy, could you say it? Have a nice day.
Well atleast the welding blanket will keep you warm while you’re dying…
стекло ткань????нужно было брать "капрон" ,"лавсан", стропы в магазине тканей из полиамида,стеклоткань не тянется
Bro the test 😂😂😂😂
How can I buy it
Fold it in half😂 shoot it again...pretty simple stuff here kids
Too much energy, you'd still need some sort of hard plate in front of that to take some energy away
size matters that is why my wife is small lol
Had to match parts somehow
What a nothing burger this video is...
Callar some steel plate shaped
so no useful information then. what a waste of my time.
Didn't pass Level 1, Plywood does a better job.
Try cross stitching.
Long leave armor ?like a shirt , no .
What a waste of time.... Omg
You didn't use fiberglass resin between each layer. That's why it didn't work. Come on Guy don't be dumb.
He didn't use fiberglass resin. So this is a half baked failure.
WELP, better go out and buy your armor just to be safe!!