how to test a vtc gear
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Awesome information Jabo. Great job.
Bro, it’s been such a long time since I had to do this repair. Thanks for the amazing reminder
Thanks my friend you are absolutely expert.I appreciated very much your demonstration.
Thank you very much. extremely helpful!
Thanks for your expertise and knowledge
Thanks Man!! working outside in 38 degrees to change the VTC, you make it look so easy. The dirty oil is caused by the rings blowing combustion gasses by, the end gaps are not staggered properly, and compression is blowing right by.
Glad it helped! Its experience my friend!
Very helpful video, Thank you 👍💯
This help me and solved my problems
Great job thank you for share
This video is excellent
Easy explanation and understandable
Thanks from Brazil.
Thank you this was very helpful I could not find any other video that shows how the sprocket was suppose to function. My 2010 prius has a P0011 I replaced the cam shaft sensor and still same code I believe the sprocket is locked in the advance position.
Did you have a no start on your car when your vtc is stuck in advance position
Thank you
Thanks, that helped me understand how that actuator works
Yes, video was very helpful. Why does Honda recommend unlocking VTC when installing? And after you install and torque, when do you lock it back?
Outstanding work abt VVT testing sir! Thanks million!
After you got it going, can you still re use ghis vvt gear? Pls advise.
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Thanks for showing this video we have finish on Moto 66 CC I have their some noise for this gear tell me what is the problem some mechanical say this is the must be you change there is coming for problem sometime my car is working 10 to 15 km after their coming noise
Good video.
My question is; if you install new one and you mistakenly lock it before installing it in the engine. Can the engine oil pressure on running or driving the car unlock it and make it start working normally. Or you have to unlock it before installing it in the engine ?
Thanks bro! \m/\m/
Glad it helped
My honda accord 2014 making rattling sound for 2 seconds in the beginning while cold start.. What do u suggest.. Why is this prb occurring?
The oil that was gushing out was the one blocking the gear from moving when pressurized otherwise it is okay. Working perfectly.
Thats normal because you are blowing out the remaining oil
Do you have to lock it before installing everything back so that you get the right timing or what?
Know of any reason my 08 element would have multiple vtech solenoids Gail back to back even with fresh oil and filter?
I’m currently working on a Optima with the same fault
Will this work on 1.8 liter Toyota Corolla 2009. I’m trying to get literature or information of how to test those VVT on both the exhaust and intake and I have found nothing yet?
When reassembling the cam,must it be put in the lock position.
Bad oil , fragments , tiny particles got in and blocked the oil pressure ports , obviously if those fragments got in and blocked the intake cam phaser ports it also made its way in the oil pump , oil filter , hydraulic tensioner, v tech solenoids and the list never ends , keep your oil clean with a genuine honda oil filter and from my personal honda tech experience, cam phasers never go bad unless the is a lack of oil pressure due to invasive obstruction in main oil galleries in the engine or bad oil .
What the suitable pressure for this test
If this fail will it keep the car from cranking?
Hey thanks for the info, Great video. Is there anyway to open the gear to inspect the internals? Got one from a junk yard and took the gear out while it's still in the locked position I believe. Cannot seem to open it up. Any suggestions?
You've probably already learned and gone and done what you wanted/needed to do, but perhaps my comment may help others looking for answers. (not to sound like some sort of know-it-all...)
5-Point Torx head bolts. I asked my local machine shop to bust the bolts loose, because that bolt head is so uncommon. The only store in town that sells the correct size 5pt Torx socket, sells it in a *specialty set for $30. I replaced those bolts with 5mm allen heads (typical hardware store stuff); M6 x *1.00 x 35 I.I.R.C.
There's 4 major pieces that make up the VTC gear aside from bolts, and inside it has 4 "Apex Seals" and a spring-loaded plunger.
You've probably noticed already, but bolts on the face are not square with each other, so the exterior at least can not be put together incorrectly.
I have a 2014 accord with the k24 gdi engine and im getting this rattle noise at start up and i have been using 0w20 pennzoil full synthetic (4k miles intervals). Rattle went away for about a week after i drove the vehicle on the highway at high rpms but then it came back
Sounds like the tensioner is going bad
Jabo The Mechanic it only does the rattle/grind noise after sitting for couple of hours or overnight. Still could be the tensioner?
Yes
@@jorgecastaneda7644 the tensioner relies on oil pressure and over time wears out.
The tensioner could just be waiting for oil pressure to build for a few seconds on start up. if you dont have any timing codes, i wouldnt worry about it
would a bad vtc cause the 2046 code to come on. sometimes it runs fine then when you slow down out of vtec and get going again the code resets this is after checking the timing and the solenoid and both screens were checked everything checked out
I think im running into the same issue. Did you end up fixing it?
What is it not one of those things where the oil drained out of it because the valve built into it caused the chatter
If you're swapping from conventional oil to full synthetic, the new synthetic oil will get dirty very, very quickly because the synthetic oil has a much greater film strength and a much better detergent package, so it tends to creep under buildup left by conventional oil and free it from metal surfaces.
The procedure if you're going to swap oil is to do an engine flush, change to synthetic, new filter. Run the car for 1-200 miles, change the oil/filter again with full synthetic, then change the oil/filter again at 3000 miles, at which point you can resume using the manufacturer's recommendations.
That'll get most of the junk out and into the filter in a hurry. Also worth making sure you're using good filters for this process, as they're what keeps the junk out of sensitive areas of the motor, like hydraulic lifters and VVT assemblies.
Mine dosent unlock no matter how many times I put air on the holes ?? Any help
I've read multiple reports of people having this replaced only to have the noise return a year or two later? Also, but debate about whether this will damage the engine if not resolved?
Well if the noise returns obviously there is still debris in the oil system. It can later on down the road
Was there a code associated with this? You can do the same thing with the engine running then jump the terminals of the oil control valve and when the engine stumbles it confirms that the phaser is working!
Need this answer ASAP
Maybe it has sludge somewhere
What position should the VTC be in when you install the timing chain.Locked or unlocked ?
Doesn't matter. As long as you prime the engine(cranking it to make sure oil passed through the whole motor not running just cranking)
@@JaboTheMechanic So I really don't have to rotate it to a set point before installing? How do I know if it's locked or unlocked? I'm going to be leaving the timing chain but backing off the tensioner so I can undo the solid cam gear and THEN remove the actuator.
Unlock the vtc then install in camshaft .tighten bolt and ince tightened you lock the gear by hand turning it .reinstall with timing marks lined up .
Could you tell me how i can do all this and replace it without removing the whole cam but just the Vtc i have a K24.
It is possible i have done it before. But you still loosen up the cam caps. But its easier to remove the whole cam gear and take the gear off
Hi, I have some rattle noice only in about 3k rpm do you think that it could be the VTC?
I would check your timing chain tensioner
Thanks for sharing. What model car engine is it out of. I know. Honda engines are very prevalent with this problem. First video I’ve. Seen on. How it actually works. I’ve taken. Webinars on variable valve but. Seeing a actual cam versus a schematic is so much more helpful. Thanks buddy for sharing stay safe and well Artie. 😊
Glad it was useful
The K20Z3 engine is found in the 8th generation Civic Si and Acura CSX Type S, which is the Canadian version of the Civic Si that we have here in the States.
what code did you get when it was failing that you decided that the vtc gear was bad like i mentioned before i keep getting the p2646 code i"ve already replaced the vtec solenoid cleaned out both screens the one in front of engine and there are times that it the vtec operates great then suddenly the code comes back on my question is if the vtc gear have anything ti do with the vtec solenoid i did do a head gasket and yes the timing chain is right on what do you think. how often do you return the replies.
The vtc gear is not your issue. Did you put back new oring between the cam cap and head
have anyone tried just the clean engine? what if pieces in oil cause this... mine actually started doing rattling sound in start up after I changed oil to 0W-30 Castroil and Honda original filter. I actually forged to put oil into filter once I replaced it... rattling happens in 1500 rpm for half second about 1 or two second after start up. Has anyone actually resolved this problem for years?
You could use transmission fluid to clean engine
Thanks for the video! I had to recently replace vvt and went ahead and put a new timing chain, tensioner, water pump, and serpentine belt. The car would rattle at cold startup. 130,000 miles. I subscribed to your channel. You mentioned at the end not to use a certain replacement part. (ITM I believe you said) What do you mean by that sir?
Itm is a cheap ebay brand (timing kit) that will fail right away. Make sure you use oem parts or high end performance parts
Jabo The Mechanic okay, gotcha. I will take note of your advice. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
Cloyes makes dependable parts
How I will set maximum 45degree? Everything is about tune?
Make sure its in the locked position
Got the code P0011 on ny mk7 gti, took out the intake camshaft found out that the cam gear ⚙ doesn't lock, what can i use to lock it?
Need to replace
Iont get it...is it or is it not working?
On cold start engine rattles massively....
Its usually first time in morning ?
Could it be this or timing chain tensioner ?
2nd after i cleaned throttle body my timing on idle is zero or -5 .... before cleaning timing used to be at +10
Thank u
Its k24 cl9 i think k24 a3
It could be the tensioner, the guides, vtc gear, oil control valve,
Did you fix the CL9?
@@gustavoalvarado8651 my engine was high mileage... it was probably tensioner n chain both
Ultimately my crank bearing failed n there was noise... so now i have changed the whole engine with a better conditon one
I bet it is a honda crv. I wish u stayed here I would let u do mines.
The gear cam came from a crv and the cam was from a honda si
What happens if U put a bad gear on ur engine?
It will either jump a tooth, rattle throw a check engine light on and be very hesitant during accelerating
No lock can even mean valves remain open when they should be closed leading to bad compression
so the cam is fixed now, because its cleaned...you don't need a new one...
My FD2R is having the same issue P0341
This would be a different code. P0011 would be the code.
Yours is a camshaft sensor issue
@@JaboTheMechanic currently my setup is K24 with K20A head. I've already changed the "RBB" solenoid three times. Appreciate your help in this issue.
@@subzerohorus did you ever find out what was making it throw out that code?
josh moua nope not yet
SolidSnake
Did you find the solution to your problem I’m having the same issue
Quiero saber porque mi auto honda civic Si 2008 tiene un sonido al encenderlo únicamente en la mañana después no mas hasta el día siguiente
Where are you located, I need that fixed
Oceanside California
RENAULT CLIO 2 1.4 16V DOESN'T REV WHA CAUSE THAT
Poor maintenance
Yes that is true
The whole maintenance reminder system is a joke. You could probably drive close to 12k miles before it told you to get a oil change
Harbor freight ??? Come on man.
RENAULT CLIO 2 1.4 16V DOESN'T REV WHA CAUSE THAT