Glucosamine alone worked for me. At age fifty was told both knees needed replacement and I had severe pain. Glucosamine was recommended and now at age eighty nearing eighty one am still running upstairs. No pain, no grating, no locking for thirty years. Only addition was MSM at age seventy.
No particular brand just Glucosamine 1000mg twice a day, told just need once a day, but if it works why change it? If you are not vegetarian can get it with chondroitin, which is I’m told especially good.
I'm 73 years old. I don't have arthritis. I run. I'm physically active. I do take Glucosamine and chondroitin. My study is my aging body. When I don't take it for a month or two my knees and hips hurt and keep me from running and even from long walks. When I get back on the glucosamine and chondroitin, after a few weeks the pain diminishes to no pain at all. I can sprint, top speed, the joy of flying on my feet. I feel good in my body. It feels great to feel good. That's my personal research. Onward.
I would never take this supplement as a solo. They work better in combination. The better supplements come in combination and made with Glucosamine sulfate and Chondroitin sulfate and not Glucosamine and Chondroitin hydrochloride . These are not drugs and represent the vital structure of joint tissue itself. It also promotes resiliency of other flexible tissue such as skin , arteries ,veins and heart valves. This is information found on the container of my supplement and the maker does not mess with supplements that are useless. He does years of studies before he makes the product. My husband and I both take and notice a difference when we stop. If you are allergic to the shells of shellfish ( shrimp, crab and crawfish ) do not take. Look at most studies that discourage supplements and encourage OTC or steroid injection with jaundiced eye. You have to take this supplement for a period of time to notice a difference. This is not a quick fix. This is not instant pain relief and temporary . It takes time to ruin joints and it takes time for them to heal and repair.
My mother took it and eventually was pain free. I have arthritis in my thumb joint that joins my rest in one hand and in the middle of my hand to mt wtist in the other hand. I have arthritic damaged several fingers. Wonder if it would work for these locations. Don't see why not.
I have been taking glucosamine and condroitin for 40 years. It has kept me on my feet and avoid knee replacement. I am not going to stop it now. I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my mid 20's. I am now 68.
I have been using 1500 MG Glucosamine Sulfate from Costco for about half the time of your usage. It was recommended by a friend and I was told to use it for at least 2 weeks. Even prior to that the severe pain I had with my R achiles tendon was eliminated. However, when stopping usage, the pain immediately returned and so I have never stopped using the product and likely never will but I might do another test to see if the issue has totally disappeared over the years.
Some supplements also include Elk Velvet Antler (Cervus Elaphus Canadensis) and Devil's claw. Others have white willow bark, Boswellia serrata extract, Boswellic acid, Lumanite, Selenium, Maganese, Pantothenic acid and collagen.
My own totally non scientific study with my own knees is that the supplement I take with glucosamine, chondroitin, collagen, msm, hyaluronic acid and a few vitamins means no pain in my knees. When I don't take it for a couple of days the pain comes back. You have to try different brands to see which works for you.
I just checked my glucosamine supplement, and bloody hell, there's no chondroitin in it 😂 Great vid, had to change the filter to recent to pickup this new update, otherwise first results are vids from 2 - 6yrs ago, and all consensus on the skeptical side, which didn't feel to good, considering I'm taking this stuff, but my man has reassured me that I'm on the right track, just gotta find one that includes chondroitin.
is there any way for us to eventually overcome the dependency with supplements? like sure, I'd want to take them on for a certain amount of time, but not ALL OF THE TIME. that to me is just not helping.
I will be 77 this summer .. I still xc and down hill ski….I ride a mt bike ….I have been taking glucosamine and chondroitin for more than 20 yrs … I’m VERY fortunate that I don’t have joint issues ..!! Studies or no…but it works for me …
I have a bad case of osteoarthritis in my knee and took Glucosamine & Chondroitin pills for approximately 30 years and it helped somewhat. Then I switched to a liquid Glucosamine & Chondroitin approximately 18 years ago and it made a big difference. I experimented a couple of times by stopping my intake of Glucosamine & Chondroitin for 3-4 days and my pain increased. Obviously, you body absorbs liquids more readily than tablet forms; if you use Glucosamine & Chondroitin, I highly recommend trying the liquid form.
@@Pellican516 Nature's Way Joint Movement Glucosamine, Extra Strength - each serving contains 2000mg Glucosamine, 1200 mg Condroitin, msm, and vitamin D3. I purchased mine online through Vitacost. I took 3-3.5 teaspoons every day. You may want to start out with a little heavier daily dose for the first week to get it into your system and back of to 3 full teaspoons a day. I also take psyllium husk every day and mixed the liquid Glucosamine and water with my powdered psyllium husk. It doesn't taste bad; you could take it by itself or mixed with water or juice.
I was skeptical, but I recently started taking glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, and it has helped my knee pain and overall aches. I take the triple strength.
Your presentation was clear concise and easy to understand. As a wellness nurse I firmly believe knowledge is the key to helping people engage in pursuing healthy sustainable habits over a lifetime. People generally will be willing to make positive lifestyle changes if they can see benefits early in the course of any potential illness.
Several years ago my left knee hurt so much I couldn't go up stairs. I saw a knee surgeon who said nothing can be done and I should schedule knee replacement. I asked to have a PT appointment. He said 90% of my knee pain would go away in 3 months if I did the ankle and hip exercises he recommended. I did and my knees are still pain free. I use Glucosamine and MSM just for insurance. I regularly do the ankle and hip exercises. My hips and ankles were extremely weak before doing the exercises. Bottom line, define the problem before scheduling treatment.
This is not a supplement that works short term. It takes time for it to work to feel a difference. It is a long term supplement. It took a long time to develop worn painful joints and it takes time for Glucosamine, Chondroitin and MSM to help in the healing process. We have become a society of instant gratification. The body heals but not in an instant. An ounce of preventation is worth a pound of cure . Look at medical studies with a jaundiced eye. Who is sponsoring the study?
My experience taking Condroitin and glucosamine (g & c)together took time (several months ) but performed 3 repairs for me . 1/ I had a tear in my miniscus (knee) causing clicking and locking up with pain . 2/ My big toe was locking up and bending my foot in normal or quick walking was very painful . 3/ I tore a tendon in my little finger knuckle . By taking g & c 2 times per day for 4 months my toe suddenly made a loud click . I exercised it back an forth further clicking . I was able to walk and run again without restriction and pain . My knee stopped locking up and clicking after 6 months . I stopped taking my 2 doses and my toe locked up again after 2 months so I took g & c again and it disappeared in days . I would take g & c for 2 days whenever my toe would lock up . My knee remained healthy for nearly 11 years when after kneeling on a hard floor for 5 minutes doing repairs I acquired a new clicking not miniscus but more like a tendon that was sliding out of its normal place and rubbing badly . Im working on that with g & c and limiting the incorrect sliding by using elastic bandage when exercising now . I also had the same issue in my little finger knuckle . I would bend it but could not straighten it . I wrapped it to keep the tendon from sliding to the side of the knuckle and took g&c and in 2 months regained normal function . Glucosamine with Chondroitin has helped me fix tendon /ligament damage , arthitic joint lock (big toe) and repaired a torn miniscus in my knee so far . I would say that it has really helped make repairs in my body . After its already in my system , I only take it when joint damage occurs for brief periods . It seems to work for a few months after . I feel that it is helping the damage to reattach itself and mend back to its normal .
In 1993 my wife and got rear ended by a truck on the freeway. After that my neck was trashed, so painful it literally limited me to muscle relanta and pain pills. Months after doctors, orthopedic surgeons and eventually chiropractors. Then I started taking a very heavy does of glucosamine/chondroitin. It took a few months to take hold, but eventually I believe my cartilage became more functional and possibly repaired itself. That is a fact and it made me functional once again. I’m now 77 work hard and take little meds. If I were to sustain another damaged joint, I would immediately turn to this supplement once again. It takes a steady intake of a sizable dose, and it takes several months to recognize its effects. See for yourself…
In my late 40s I had knee pain hiking and skiing. I even took up scuba so I would have a sport if my knees got worse. I also started G&C daily. It took a couple of years, but I was able to stop using neoprene compression on my knees. Now 76, my knees are fine and I'm still hiking and skiing, yes and taking G&C.
I also have been taking glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM since 1998 ! At that time I was suffering with pain and stiffness in my right hip, my family doctor ordered a X-ray and found that I had moderate to severe joint degenaration in my hip. He suggested that I could try glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM. I also would see Chiropractors for neck & hip adjustments. After about 3 weeks I could feel my mobility had improved as well much less pain . Not only did I get improvement in my hip but also my neck issues disappeared. Just to mention that Veterinarians also prescribe glucosamine and chondroitin to horses & dogs that have mobility problems where noticeable improvement is seen ! One more thing that I think needs to be said is that glucosamine and chondroitin won't work if your joint is bone to bone.
For me, glucosamine was a miracle. But probably not for everyone. I started a job delivering meat in my 50's. I would jump off the back of the truck, trying to give the impression I was young again. After a few months, my hand and knee joints were extremely stiff and painful in the morning when I woke up. I started taking glucosamine and it brought immediate relief. Because I had worked these joints for only a few months, maybe it would be different for say a carpet layer or bricklayer, who may have done it all their lives. I kept taking them, even after leaving the job after 10 months. After three years I changed brands and it seemed to produce blood thinning and low blood pressure, so I ceased taking the glucosamine. Amazingly, I felt as good as I did prior to doing the job.
4:13 started taking a glucosamine and chondroitin for joint achiness a few years back and definitely noticed they have a delayed which is easy to overlook both going on and coming off (about effect 3-5 days for me). That these also act to address inflammation helps me to put in perspective why they work for me.
Yes, agreed. G and C with HA and collagen, the last 2x-day. Right hip pain almost gone. Still cant sit lotus position, but now I walk 40 min/ day with no pain. Initially 1 year ago I couldn't walk 1 step w/o pain, and was taking acitaminophen to sleep- which is terrible for liver.
In my early thirties my elbows and knees would get horribly stiff and painful, I saw a 60 minutes show about msm, glucosamine and chondroitin and there were several older people talking about there experience with it, this was in the late eighties. I started taking it and it helped tremendously. I’ve taken them ever since and I’m 64 now. It worked for me. I started taking a prescription nsaid for arthritis several years ago in addition to the supplements because as I got older I got stiffer and it hasn’t helped near as much as when I first took the supplements
@joecook8352 I would like to get your opinion on the subject of GLUCOSamine. If you have an Instagram account, is it possible to write and share it here?
I compressed my spine twice and cracked 3 vertebrae along with damage to feet, knees and hips while in Vietnam. After the service I lived a normal working life including farming and commercial fishing until about 55, but not without pain. In the 80s I started using Glucosamine & Chondroitin regularly and later off and on. It helped the back and the other joints. I have xrays going back to the 1960s. There's more cartilage now. I'm an old man and have my aches and pains with some other issues, but don't take prescription drugs or recreational drugs. I live on a small ship and am still active.
@@rit20095 For a few months: Glu 3000mg, Chond: 2400mg. Then 1500 & 1200 for a year. Then none for a couple years. Then 1500 & 1200 for about 3 months a year.
I am 66. I started taking G & C in the 90s when I was still doing ballet. I kept taking it. I still do yoga, hiking, weight training, biking. I plant to keep taking it to stay off meds and nsaids. I also take turmuric and hyaloronic acid for my joints and ligaments.
I'm presently using a product from Solgar which combines, in 3 daily tablets, the recommended mg levels of these two nutrients, integrated with 1,500 mg MSM & 300 mg of their formulation of "Biocell Collagen II" (180 mg Hydrolyzed Collagen II, 48 mg Chondroitin Sulfate, 30 mg Hyaluronic Acid). I also drink a daily scoop of a collagen peptide powder mixed in water. My objective is focused on rebuilding cartilage rather than simply reduction in pain. Knee cartilage destruction results in damage to the meniscus. In theory the meniscus can heal, but degenerated cartilage will just continue to "grind" the meniscus like sand paper. So, the goal is to reduce degeneration of cartilage. I plan to continue on this formulation for 1 year and see where it takes me. My knee arthritis does not produce chronic pain, though most days low to moderate discomfort. I am 70 yo and exercise consistently including a return to measured weekly running. I am interested in reading your thoughts on this regimen. Thanks for your informative posts .... much appreciated.
I have been having knee pain..later diagnosed as osteoarthritis for almost a decade. The doctor suggested surgery but I did my own research on what is effective for me.. Collagen, omega 3, boswellia with turmeric and pepper besides glucosamine + chondrotine +MSN.. Very very effective for me.
@@rit20095 as of present I am only taking boswellia Himalaya brand and omega 3. Omega Plus Swiss med . Has cut down on the rest of the supplements. Now maintaining with only those two.
GREAT RESULTS! After taking a supplement with Collagen+Glucosamine+Chondroitin for 2 years, I have experienced much less pain, most of the time no pain at all, AND my MRI shows my osteoarthritis has reverted from an initial painful Stage-4 to a now easy-to-manage Stage 1. My doctor says this is not the same for everyone, but my body responded well. -- BTW: I took “Carticure Plus” (by a Spanish pharmaceutical): containing 5000mg Collagen (Bioactive Peptides), 1500mg Glucosamine hydrochloride, 1200mg Chondroitin sulfate, Copper, Vitamin C, Manganese. It’s an orange flavored powder you mix with water. As per Dr instruction: I took 1/day for the first 6 months, then 1 every-other-day forever. It has rebuilt my cartage, or maybe just allowed by body to do what it was meant to do.
Hi, great to hear your experience. Did you have knee osteoarthritis ? and whats your age, if i may ask? My mom has been diagnosed with knee osteoarthritis grade 2-3 almost. she is not experiencing that much pain but movement walking time is restricted to very limited, because of discomfort and slight pain. Doctor prescribed "cartibless" supplement which has collagen glucosamine chondroitin vitamin c hyaluronic ingredients and multi vitamin supplemetnts. she is taking for almost 1.5 months. I would love to hear how you did it or your journey, what was your experience for 2 years. It could really help us understand how to deal with it. she is just 53. Thanks
@@inhalingexhaling1852 Yes, I have osteoarthritis in both knees + meniscus tear in right knee. I am 61 years old. I force myself to walk 1 hours/day (3-6 km), this is key to move the joint so it lubricates well. I stopped taking Carticure for a few months last year (arrogantly thought I was "cured"), & the pain came back with a vengeance, could only walk very short distances. I went back on Carticure and after 2 months was again pain-free, however, I did have to incorporate strength training + daily stretching since I could not walk very much for a while. At my age it's surprising how quickly one loses muscle strength!
@@delsisabarc5790 oh nice. good to hear you are doing well with this. I also think movement, walking is the key here with supplements and physiotherapy or chiropractor. Because that helped my mother from getting exhausted now, able to walk without any discomfort. Thanks for sharing, Do update on it. Maybe we all can learn and grow from each other experiences.
I agree with digital.mente. I've been taking Osteo Bi Flex for years. I've tried other brands when the store was out, but they didn't work as well. And if I run out, I can really feel it!
I have found taking the Kirkland brand Glucosamine Sulfate, Chondroitin and MSM works for me. I just take 2 tablets each night. If I stop this routine I start getting arthritic pain again, so I keep it up. (Before getting on to this combination, I was using just Glucosamine with good effect, provided it was the more expensive sulfate rather than the cheaper hydrochloride form.)
Dr. Peng, Thanks for a very informative video. My personal experience is that the two meds when combined with MSM are very beneficial. I'm a 78 year old male with a family history of osteoarthritis. MSM definitely adds to the effectiveness. More studies should be done with the trifecta. I am living proof that it works.
And the next question would be whether the chondroitin could be supplanted by MSM? I've been taking glucosamine with MSM for 23 years. As always: "More studies are needed..."
Thank you very much Dr. Peng for the very useful lecture. From my own experience Glucosamine /Chondroitin as long term supplement helped me in summer months. Unfortunately, I suffer from extreme pain during Autumn/Winter season. So I tried with Hyaluron injection once a week all in all 5x to which the Orthopedic told me I can have up to 10 injections yearly. To date I have none or just tolerable pain during Autumn/Winter time.And that saved me to date from having artificial knee joint.
That study is completely wrong. My Basset Hound has arthritis and nearly could not walk. We started giving her glucosamine & condroitin and she improved on the very first day. (We didn't tell her what it was, so no placebo effect :) ). She has been taking it for about 3 months and her improvement has been consistent and dramatic. She is running again.
Most studies are funded by a pharmaceutical company with the goal of selling more drugs, and refuting any supplement that will not allow them to make money.
I was skeptical at first, as a physician. I tried a short course of Glucosamine / Chondroitin in the past with little relief. I had been active, going to gym, hiking , martial arts and work. Sudden onset of arthritis in my k red was extremely painful. Tried nsaids, then knee injections with steroid once then two injections with hyaluroninase gel. First gave some improvement. Wore off in a few weeks. Second was not terribly successful, needed, nsaid. Started combination Glucosamine/Chondroitin and relief started in about 3 weeks, and is better entering my second month. I am walking, with my dog which was difficult, not getting pain at rest bit driving, can do more squats and horse stance posture workouts , and able to perform martial arts kicking again. A study looking at poor response from gel with addition of Glucosamine/Chondtoitin. I was looking at knee replacements , which now do not appear to be necessary. I will follow up with repeat k we c rays to see what status of arthritis changes are
i take both Gluc and Chon and Syn Flex for 20 yrs...I stopped the synflex for a month and my knees started hurting...guess what, I went back on synflex and all the pain went away....I will take both for the rest of my life
I knew I had arthritis in my knees and the specialist said I would need a knee replacement down the track. In February 23 I started weight lift training. I now have no pain in my knees and I have ditched the cane. The replacement diagnosis 10 years ago. The weight lifting has built up the muscles around the knees supports the knees.
Well here's one for you then, I had a dog that was suffering from arthritis several years after knee reconstruction surgery, she had trouble walking and was acting like she was years older than she actually was. The vet suggested we give her a G&C supplement daily, where the first 6 weeks would be a double dose and then settling down to the normal dose. Well after years of struggling she started getting the bounce back in her step and remained like that until the last year or so before her death. OK, I accept she was dog, and maybe there is a bit of a metabolic difference but it can't have been a placebo effect because we didn't tell her what we were giving her and how she would feel better (you do get that I'm being facetious here), so the change had to be from the G&C.
YOU'RE right and the stuff sold for dogs is much more expensive .............I gave it to my Rotties as they aged up at about 6-7 years........One pill a day.....a 2nd if a limp or gimpiness persists.........
I have had DDD in one of my lower back discs, and last Sunday I had a massive flare up. I had extreme pain and could not stand up straight, couldn’t sleep well, and could not walk normally or even bend over without pain. The first morning following the day I took glucosamine and Chondroitin, my pain is basically gone. The pain level went from a 10 to a 2.
Hi so recently, i started feeling a low back pain untill i figure it out it was my sciatica never and my friend whos a personal trainer advised me to take msm glucosamine + magnesium + amino acids, fun fact i started yesterday and was i was feeling pain yesterday at night, today i woke up with a almost no pain 😅 its crazy but its true, i will keep taking it and see how i feel in the next few weeks
I’ve been installing carpet for 30 years and my knees are pretty rough. I’ve been taking a supplement that has glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM. It’s the MSM that makes all the difference. When I take it I can go up and down steps virtually pain free and can run as well. I HIGHLY recommend it. It’s been a game changer for this lifelong carpet installer.
The cited study said specifically, "in the short term." I think a completely different, and more relevant question is, "Does glucosamine chondroitin help in the long term with consistent use?" In my experience, it doesn't help much in the short term, but IT DOES HELP when taken consistently in the long term.
Been taking Osteo Bi-Flex or generic triple strength equivalent for decades after osteoarthritis started in my hands in early 40s. Works great. However, I take 2-3X what label says (2 pills per meal vs. label dose of 2 pills per day with food), which is also 2-3X dose that doc here suggested near end of video. At lower dose, my joint pain quickly returns.
I've tried just about everything known to Man without much success, i then tried Green Lipped Mussel from NZ & have found a great improvement :) I gave everything i tried 12 weeks & if i didn't feel any improvement i moved on to another supplement, the green lipped musssel showed improvement with in a few weeks. I've been taking it for about 2 years now & i have to say i'm really impressed with the results.
The first study mentions was has no effect on 'short term' pain and function, the other studies appear to look at a longer view .... glucosamine & chondroitin is a long term play. After years of knee pain (not arthritis) it took a few months of glucosamine and chondroitin for the pain to leave, and function improve.
I have been taking them since my thirty’s to avoid having problems as my mother suffered from arthritis. I’m nearly 60 and gave to say my joints are in good condition for my age
I take collagen daily. I also take a supplement containing glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM and tumeric. After 6 weeks, I am pain free! OA in the right knee.
My story is interesting. I was developing OA in my right hip from the mid 1990's on, but I thought it was a muscle problem. The pain was never in the hip, but in the inner thigh. By 2001, I was in severe pain and limping badly. A rheumatologist diagnosed mild to moderate OA and said I would need a hip replacement within 5 years. He asked me if I wanted a referral to a surgeon. I told him that I had just started to take glucosamine and wanted to see if it would work. Within a week of taking it, my pain was totally gone in all normal activities, sitting, walking, standing and sleeping. For the next 14-15 years, glucosamine worked for me, but not all brands. For example, the CVS brand did not work. During this entire period, I only experienced pain infrequently and then only for one to a few minutes. I felt normal. I would often sprint to catch a bus or race down the stairs to catch a train with no pain. I didn't always take glucosamine with chondroitin. Often, I took glucosamine by itself and it worked very well. I concluded that chondroitin was of no help for pain. Some of the products had proprietary ingredients like bromelain and other anti-inflammatories, but not all. I can't judge the effectiveness of the proprietary formulas, since they all contained glucosamine, 1500 mgs. The form of glucosamine did not matter. I want to emphasize that brand mattered. Glucosamine is a large molecule and you need a formulation that can be absorbed into the joint. You have to try things. My advice is to not go cheap. Some of the better products can run $40-50/month, but some in the $18-25 range worked equally well. There are often 2 for 1 sales with some products. Some products worked for a period of time like 2-3 years, then began to lose effectiveness. When that happened, I switched to other products and was lucky that several brands worked very well. After 14 years, I started to get some pain at times and none of the glucosamine products were left to try. I knew that I was going to need a hip replacement. I started to play sports again and sure enough I found myself in severe pain again, with no safe product to take. I got lucky though. I learned about hip resurfacing, a surgery in which the arthritis is fixed without removing the hip. I still have my original hip and it's strong enough to play any sport. I haven't had any pain since the surgery was healed. That was in 2018. Glucosamine can definitely work, though not necessarily for everyone, but you need to experiment with the brand. My experience was not unique. Also, it may work for the hip but not the knee, or vv. I would definitely do the exercises that Dr. Peng is demonstrating, and others. Thanks to Dr. Peng for this excellent video.
Great video! I have psoriatic arthritis. I’m on a biologic. I also have developed chondromalacia patella. These supplements I assume are tested by themselves not with any added rehab exercises. My hypothesis is that combination of these with a proper workout plan designed to promote cartilage health might increase the rapidity and total gains seen in the injury.
I have switched to using Turmeric and ginger with Black pepper extract for my kneecap arthritis. I used to be in significant pain while using Glucosamine and Chondroitin. I now have minimal pain and I never feel the grinding in my kneecap.This improvement took place within the first week of use. I walk about 10 K a day. I am 66 years old.
let’s say for instance that a maltracking of a patella has been resolved and there is no longer friction but there is some residual erosion to the cartilage. will glucosamine regenerate that cartilage
I found that my body does not make good use of glucosamine but I do get results with glucosamine sulfate. I had been using glucosamine sulfate for a couple of years and it seemed to help. Then over about a 3 week period it seemed to have stopped working. I starred looking to see what was up and realized I had purchased glucosamine rather than the glucosamine sulfate I normally bought.
I have been taking glucosamine and condroitin for a few years now. If I go without taking the supplement for a few days I can loudly hear by knees clicking as I walk down the stairs. You might be able to ignore pain, as in placibo effect, but it is hard to ignore an audible sound.
One or both of those is known to block glucose uptake in the gut. People with metabolic disease typically have greater pain/burning sensations when exposed to sugar/carbs, so that's a mechanism that would apply depending on when you ingest relative to a meal.
Beginning in my 40s my right knee didn't have pain but rather felt loose. When I stressed it, like running for a just a very short distance it would again, not hurt but felt even "looser". When going down steps it would pop when I bent that knee. I knew I needed to do something or I was going to eventually have to do knee replacement. I began taking a shellfish based liquid glucosamine/condroitin/MSM and I began feeling a positive change. I tried other types of powder glucosamine and eventually I would have the same loose feeling in my knee. I went back to the shellfish based liquid glucosamine and my knee would get better. I concluded that shellfish is the best source of glucosamine if you're not allergic. I've been taking a shellfish based gummy glucosamine/condtroitin/MSM supplement and it's been working just as well as the liquid, but I don't have to worry about refrigeration.
@@smarzig I was using Flexicose. But when my old fridge stopped working a couple times causing me to dump a couple of opened bottles I switched to gummy glucosamine since they don't have to be refrigerated.
I used to work in Singapore from 2000 to 2002, using MRT as the main mode of transportation. My knees hurt and began taking glucosamine. It helped but the pain returned once I stopped taking it. Luckily someone introduced me to Qi Qong and I have been practising it since 2011. I have not taken any glucosamine since then. The trick is the horse stances in Qi Gong strengthened my leg muscles. Actually horse stances of any martial art help strengthen leg muscles. Now I am 63 years old and hike once a week to maintain my fitness and overall well being.
I was given tablets by the wife and thought it was just vitamins. all of a sudden, my knee felt strange, like it was lubricated, stopped hurting. She gave be Glucosamine.
I have found that Glucosamine and Chondroitin work well with the osteoarthritis in my wrists. I was taking Glucosamine alone for some time before joint pain led to a referral to the local hand clinic. They confirmed the loss of cartilage between the lunate and capitate bones and recommended adding Chondroitin to my intake. Since then the wrist function has improved greatly and I have no pain at all.
YES, IT CAN'T GIVE IMMEDIATE RELIEF, BUT VERY EFFECTIVE IN LONG TERM, AND ONE WILL EXPERIENCE ITS EFFECTIVENESS IF ONE STOPS TAKING THEM ON DAILY BASIS FOR A WEEK OR TWO, THE ARTHRITIS PAINS COME BACK
Works for me. How do I know? My doctor first advised me to take it for knee osteoarthritis twenty years ago. This was after I asked her why my knees clicked when I climbed stairs. After several months the clicking went away. I got somewhat light minded about taking the supplements after ten years. The clicking returned. I resumed daily consumption and after a couple of weeks the clicking went away and has stayed away. I also now swim and bike on a daily basis but the glucosamine and chondroitin supplements have helped me for the last twenty years outside of the brief interruption that negatively proved the point.
I am 76, have used glucosamine and condroitin since my forties and walk 4-6 miles every day with my dog and most days ride a stationary bike approx 15 miles, and have no pain in any of my joints. Earlier in the year I broke my knee cap, upon having and MRI the doctor noted I had NO arthritis and the knee joint look like that of a twenty year old. Only problem is the knee cap. I'll continue to take the glucosamine and condroitin and no unknown youtube doctor trying to make money will change my mind,.
IT WORKS, PERIOD! Noticeable improvement in one week. Also notice return of pain when stop taking it after 5 days. The D/P companies just can't make any money from it., hence all the bought and paid for studies trying to condemn it. iF YOU HAVE JOINT PAIN DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND TRY. CAN'T HURT AND YOU WILL KNOW IF IT HELPS BY END OF FIRST BOTTLE.
I've been taking a combination dose at 1500 and 1200 for 25 years. I have noticed that when I run out it takes about 3 to 4 days for pain in my knees to start and by day 6 I can hardly walk. It takes about 3 weeks to get back to normal after. Ive also noticed that doses significantly below the 1200 of the chondroitin does not work. Nor does talking chondroitin on its own work. It has to be the correct combined dose. I have recommended this daily dose for both to others and 100% of those that take it as recommended fond the same results. I meet a wmen at work that came for a meeting the other day and we some how got talking about osteoarthritis, so I recommended Glucosamine & Chondroitin. She contacted me after about a month and said after years of pain this has been the best advice she has ever had. She said the pain was about 50% less.
I take these supplements. Often stop thinking they are not working. Always have to go back to them within a few week due to pain coming back. The longer I stay on them the pain almost goes leaving me free to walk regularly and play golf twice a week. I started them around 5 years ago and I am 80.
Started getting knee and joint pain in late 40s (after being put on statins for high cholesterol, and was told by friends that they felt statins were the problem). After stopping the statins mist of the effects seemes to decrease but not disappear. Doctor later recommended glucosamine & C) which Ive been on for almost 5 years and joint pain and weakness feels much better but I can't say my regimen is a guaranteed success. Thanks to Costco prices my G&C costs are low so I keep taking it. The recent discussion about unknown higher levels of microplastics in bottled water may explain a LOT of health issues and I hope THAT research ramps up immediately.
I took glucosamine and condroitin for my knees a decade ago and inexplicably started to get pain in both big toes. Tried it again (just two doses) two years ago and it happened again...and it lasted a long time. No mas.
I used to take the combined glucosamine/chondroitin, but then read that the one of them - I don’t remember which one - made no difference in studies so I quit and started taking MSM/chondroitin(?). Eventually, I started taking only the MSM. I really don’t notice much difference with any of the combinations - or when used alone and may quit. I do take the fish oil, or krill oil. I think it helps - but mostly, my first noticeable difference was in my thinking/brain. Lately, I’ve discovered red light therapy and I’ve been using a band that wraps around my back, hip or knees, and recently, my shoulder. It has made the most noticeable difference.
I have to agree with the other comments. I have been taking a combination of glucosamine/ chondroitin for at least 10 years and by X-ray I had severe osteoarthritis of my knees but not clinically severe. I do not have knee pain, occasional stiffness if I exercise to aggressively but that is to be expected. Pain is definitely subjective and tolerance levels as well. I believe from my personal experience that this supplement combination is essential and it does take weeks to start to feel an effect when first starting out. There is a supplement that I would appreciate your imputen call Alpha Lipoic Acid for inflammation. I stated this supplement in 2019 because even though I didn’t have pain, I did experience swelling most of the time to some degree. Well, I started taking the Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 mg once a day and with in 2 weeks the swelling was significantly better. I am truly a sceptic so when I was traveling I ran out of it and then forgot about it for 3 weeks until my swelling started to return so I thought okay let’s buy some and start it again. One week later the inflammation was gone and I have been stable ever since. These things are miracles, I still cannot jog, jump or anything that relies on my knees being stable to support me but hey I have a quality of life walking, swimming as long as I don’t take on very steep ups or downs. 😊
🙏 I’ve tried Activ8 Joint complete and found a helped reduce my pain 8 ingredients but is expensive I’m now trying Holland and Barrett cheaper turmeric and Boswellia and ginger they say helps I also bought glucosamine sulphate but found out it doesn’t help joints pain after test and you can have a reaction to the shell 🐚 fish 🎣 and blood 🩸 sugar levels so please check with your gp first good luck without prejudice 👍
My anecdote. I've been using glucosamine for 15+ years for hip problems. I had a THR 13 years ago. Subsequently I've started to experience knee pain. 2 years ago I switched to glucosamine and chondroitin and after 2 months the pain stopped and so far has not returned.
There is a big difference between repairing a damaged joint and maintaining joint health over the long term, many studies have focused on short term repair and many are very poorly designed using vague metrics- one widely reported study used vague measures of patient evaluated discomfort in patients with serious joint damage over a short period. Many people I know take supplements for maintenance and inflammation reduction- these are very active people with osteoarthritis. I take glucosamine/chondroitin/ASU as formulated by Dr Theodakis who claims clinical evidence for ASU is stronger than for G -C, even given clinically demonstrated benefits of G-C. I haven’t seen much on ASU in the popular media.
I’m 24 and concerned about future joint issues due to an injury in my left wrist and a family history of osteoarthritis. I hope it will help prevent it.
The research is flawed. Research needs to combine motion and exercise. Athletes used Glucosamine with Chondroitin for years. The supplement wasn’t expensive. However, very effective. Medical journals wrote favorable results. Then the cost quickly doubled. Healthy active people that combine these supplements will recover faster and get stronger after 6 to eight weeks of consistent use. Without combining motion, mild resistance training and refraining from inflammatory foods, people may not see positive results. This is why the studies vary so much. They intentionally leave out physical activity and diet to keep their research isolated to the product. This will fail a high percentage of the time.
Glucosamine and Chondroitin have been a real benefit to me , thus i belive in it as no other has been able to relive me of pain and miscomfort . I have 2 bad spinal discs plus 1 kracted disc. If you have found taking these have had no positive effect , the cause may be the amount taken is insufficent .
Prior to getting bilateral hip replacement and one knee replacement, I tried several different brands of each of clucosamine and chondritin, and as far as I could tell, they didn't do anything to relieving joint pain. It was long enough ago that I don't remember if I tried them together. There could be multiple reasons for them not working, including how severe my issues were.
it helps me vith curcu 4:31 min, collagen, omega 3 and k2d3 vitamins. i was like invalid vith my left arm fingers before i started using this combination of suplement s
I slipped on ice and tore up my ankle, ended up going to the physiotherapist for an evaluation (this was six months after the accident). The reason was my ankle was stiff in the mornings and it took ten minutes to loosen it up. I was recommended this supplement and after taking it for three months I noticed a improvement (took it for another three months before discontinuing). It has been twenty five years later and I have absolutely no issues with my ankle. Now I am not sure how long a severe sprain regardinging the ankle takes to heal but I can honestly say taking the supplements did not hurt.
I am 82...I take the combination for a few months to a few years at a time and heal to such a degree that I can stop taking it for years at a time and be fine...I think it allows the cartilage to rebuild.
My knee was bothering me when I was in my 30’s. The doctor told me my cartilage had gone down. So I couldn’t even kneel in church to pray nor change my baby’s diaper. I took the Glucosome Chondroitan. I took it for just a couple weeks. The pain went away and I never had to take it again
Glucosamine and chondroitin is improved by nearly double and within 2 weeks if you take it with Omega 3. I was on steroids for my neck and couldn't reduce the prednisolone until I took these 3 and it worked in days
Im 35 but use my arms so much to push my wheelchair and use my arms too move a lot. I started trying some glucosamine- and will try some other things, Im looking for something that actually helps repair soft tissue and cartilage. The problem with joint overuse or injury is that they have less blood supply to transport certain nutrients to repair this kind of tissue. If glucosamine is not ideal, than what is?
Hello sir, My doctor has given me glucosamine only but not chondroitin. Can you suggest medicines containing both the combinations. I am from India and I am taking Lubrijoint od. Thanks & Regards Swapnil kabra
Thank you for this post. I see that, along with the Glucosamine/Condroitin (G/C) some combinations include Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM). So how does this alter the equation? The majority of these supplements are manufactured using shellfish. There are some that are shellfish free, created by fermentation, I believe of corn. Further, what roll do GMO foods play? Both in causing inflammation in the first place and how the supplements manufactured with them differ in outcomes. Lastly, what about all the "other" ingredients? Magnesium stearate. stearic acid, etc. and how could they possibly alter the findings?
Microplastics and particle pollution - something we all have and cannot limit exposure to, lead to chronic inflamation. These have been found in umbilical cords so pass from mothers lungs into babies blood. We are setting ourselves up for shorter lives with more suffering. Ditching plastic and fossil fuels is needed to help our grandchildren.
My experience with hip joint pain runs counter - that Glucosamine and Chondroitin does not reduce hip joint pain. My experience is that hyaluronic acid 3.3mg/daily taken with Boron 5mg/daily and with Type II Collagen can temporarily reduce hip pain so pain killers like NSAID are not needed for hip joint pain.
The studies should focus on actual MRI to see changes on cartilage, improvement on pain could even mean these supplements block pain receptors, since many people report pain after stop taking them
I am some kind of outlier in this battle with arthritis: I seem to be allergic to chondroitin! I was having deterioration of my ankles and hip sockets so I faithfully tried G&C for a month. It did not help and I got worse, so I took MORE for another month. Worse! It dawned upon me that if the more I take the worse I get, then I should STOP. Within two days of quitting almost all of my pain was GONE! After a month of only mild pain I discovered glucosamine-sulfate, and since both chemicals are a factor in joint health I tried it twice per day. INCREDIBLE RELIEF! My joint arthritis is GONE using it only once per day! All along I was also taking capsules of hyaluronic acid powder twice a day which only helped a little, but the combination of the three is just what I needed. My joints were HEALED! I am building my cartilage back up. For a while glucosamine-sulfate was hard to find, and I made do with just glucosamine and another sulfate compound MSM. It sort of worked but I longed for the other; when glucosamine-sulfate became available again I went back to it with much better results.................................elsullo
I've been on it since 1993. If I stop (I have twice) my pain comes back. I take half the recommended dose and I use the Swanson brand. It's not a placebo. I notice how when something works, mainstream says it's the placebo effect. I'm a healthy 70-year-old man and have rarely taken doctors advice, also I have not had any kind of jab since 1999. Furthermore, I started studying natural health in 1993 and continued for 20 years of course work and applying what I learned. If you don't know how to take care of yourself by the time you are 40, then you deserve the doctors and the hospitals. Also, never had a colonoscopy.
This is very funny for me: "mainstream says it's the placebo", in stead of recognizing the reward and working of med in the desired direction. I would say, I will keep taking placebo. as it is working for me
I started dosing my German Shepherd and within two weeks she was moving like she hadn't for years. I never told her what I was doing so it's not like she responded to thinking she should be improving.
I'm 55 and ride BMX bikes on and off for the last forty years. I started with knee pain about three years ago, much physio, insoles for my flat feet and the pain came and went. in October of 2023 the pain retuned and I got an MRI scan in early 2022 , result onset of osteoarthritis, I've been recommended Glucosamine and have been told it could take up 6 to 8 weeks for the pain to go away. I'll try it and see if there is any improvement. If not I'll look to alternatives. Missing my bike riding a lot now.
My orthopedic surgeon promotes the use of Glucosamine chondroitin and CBD. He also uses them himself. He’s one doctor who has so much experience and instincts when it comes to recommending a treatment plan. I had a labral tear in my hip during a car accident that has lead to chronic trochanteric bursitis. I also have rotoscoliosis at base of my lumbar spine extending into my sacral nerve root. I developed hypertrophy of quadratis lumborum (QL)on my right nearly no musculature on my left. My life is like a house of cards but that said I’ve learned to find tools to ameliorate my symptoms. I’ve found acupuncture and chiropractic the most useful in managing my condition
Greetings Dr. Peng. I watched the above video, as well as dozens of your other videos, including the video on Tumeric & Curcumin. Since both videos indicate potential benefits to inflammation & pain reduction, do you recommend taking; Tumeric & Curcumin As well as Glucosamine with Chondroitin?
I take glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, hyaluronic acid, boswelia serrata, rosehip extract, curcumin, piperine and Type 1-2-3-5-10 collagen. I have no osteoarthritis or anything but just to keep my fitness intact. The recovery of joints is insane. After every hardcore workout, next day the joints feel like I haven't worked out in ages, I am ready to go another huge session.
The truth for me is that it doesn't work at all. The first sadness was that something in my Super Seed fiber supplement was not compatible with GC. Three hours after taking the fiber, I would get very nauseated to the point of vomiting. I tried a period of rest for nearly two weeks and then tried it again with the same result. I had been taking this Super Seed fiber for a few years with no problems at all. The second problem with GC is the nausea that I got when I got up to the full dose of three capsules a day. I reduced it down to two a day and the nausea went away, but I still was not having any benefits with my arthritis pain. I'm giving it up now as a waste of money. I'm currently waiting for boswellia extract to arrive and see if that works for me. I can't take anti-inflammatories anymore because I'm now in stage 2 kidney failure. If the boswellia doesn't work, I'm destined for lots of pain until I finally expire. 😥😭
I've been taking thorne joint support nutrients with glucosamine and msm with curcumin, bromelain and boswellia but now will be buying thorne glucosamine & chondroitin and try that out. Haven't really noticed a difference with the support nutrients as I was just told I have mild arthur and ostio. I exercise regularly. 🙏🏽
From my own experience as a long distance cyclist, if I didn’t take it I can’t do the riding I like to do. I started in my 20s and now in my late 30s. My knees get way too sore if I don’t take it. I also have a shoulder problem and it seems to help with that a lot too.
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Glucosamine alone worked for me. At age fifty was told both knees needed replacement and I had severe pain. Glucosamine was recommended and now at age eighty nearing eighty one am still running upstairs. No pain, no grating, no locking for thirty years. Only addition was MSM at age seventy.
Great to hear that. I have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis of knee
What brand my friend
No particular brand just Glucosamine 1000mg twice a day, told just need once a day, but if it works why change it? If you are not vegetarian can get it with chondroitin, which is I’m told especially good.
I started taking NOW glucosamine only 3 days ago for my shoulder bursitis. How long for the medicine to take effect on my body?
Would you mind what brand you're taking...many thanks God bless.
I'm 73 years old. I don't have arthritis. I run. I'm physically active. I do take Glucosamine and chondroitin. My study is my aging body. When I don't take it for a month or two my knees and hips hurt and keep me from running and even from long walks. When I get back on the glucosamine and chondroitin, after a few weeks the pain diminishes to no pain at all. I can sprint, top speed, the joy of flying on my feet. I feel good in my body. It feels great to feel good. That's my personal research. Onward.
I've heard similar stories from a number of runners.
Glucosamine works. Chondroitin is unnecessary.
I would never take this supplement as a solo. They work better in combination. The better supplements come in combination and made with Glucosamine sulfate and Chondroitin sulfate and not Glucosamine and Chondroitin hydrochloride . These are not drugs and represent the vital structure of joint tissue itself. It also promotes resiliency of other flexible tissue such as skin , arteries ,veins and heart valves. This is information found on the container of my supplement and the maker does not mess with supplements that are useless. He does years of studies before he makes the product. My husband and I both take and notice a difference when we stop. If you are allergic to the shells of shellfish ( shrimp, crab and crawfish ) do not take. Look at most studies that discourage supplements and encourage OTC or steroid injection with jaundiced eye. You have to take this supplement for a period of time to notice a difference. This is not a quick fix. This is not instant pain relief and temporary . It takes time to ruin joints and it takes time for them to heal and repair.
Amen! 🙌💯💪
My mother took it and eventually was pain free. I have arthritis in my thumb joint that joins my rest in one hand and in the middle of my hand to mt wtist in the other hand. I have arthritic damaged several fingers. Wonder if it would work for these locations. Don't see why not.
Same for me but I'm mid 50s.
I have been taking glucosamine and condroitin for 40 years. It has kept me on my feet and avoid knee replacement. I am not going to stop it now. I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my mid 20's. I am now 68.
Is it true ?? Are you able to manage this situation for 40 years...
I have been using 1500 MG Glucosamine Sulfate from Costco for about half the time of your usage. It was recommended by a friend and I was told to use it for at least 2 weeks. Even prior to that the severe pain I had with my R achiles tendon was eliminated. However, when stopping usage, the pain immediately returned and so I have never stopped using the product and likely never will but I might do another test to see if the issue has totally disappeared over the years.
Wow thank you for that information, I don't want surgery
Have you gotten recent mri it ct scans? I wonder if there was any improvement
Some supplements also include Elk Velvet Antler (Cervus Elaphus Canadensis) and Devil's claw. Others have white willow bark, Boswellia serrata extract, Boswellic acid, Lumanite, Selenium, Maganese, Pantothenic acid and collagen.
My own totally non scientific study with my own knees is that the supplement I take with glucosamine, chondroitin, collagen, msm, hyaluronic acid and a few vitamins means no pain in my knees. When I don't take it for a couple of days the pain comes back. You have to try different brands to see which works for you.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
I just checked my glucosamine supplement, and bloody hell, there's no chondroitin in it 😂
Great vid, had to change the filter to recent to pickup this new update, otherwise first results are vids from 2 - 6yrs ago, and all consensus on the skeptical side, which didn't feel to good, considering I'm taking this stuff, but my man has reassured me that I'm on the right track, just gotta find one that includes chondroitin.
Any side effects ?
@@malihahaque3710 For me none that I have noticed.
is there any way for us to eventually overcome the dependency with supplements? like sure, I'd want to take them on for a certain amount of time, but not ALL OF THE TIME. that to me is just not helping.
I will be 77 this summer ..
I still xc and down hill ski….I ride a mt bike ….I have been taking glucosamine and chondroitin for more than 20 yrs …
I’m VERY fortunate that I don’t have joint issues ..!! Studies or no…but it works for me …
Hello Martin , may I kindly ask which one you take and recommend please ?
I have a bad case of osteoarthritis in my knee and took Glucosamine & Chondroitin pills for approximately 30 years and it helped somewhat. Then I switched to a liquid Glucosamine & Chondroitin approximately 18 years ago and it made a big difference. I experimented a couple of times by stopping my intake of Glucosamine & Chondroitin for 3-4 days and my pain increased. Obviously, you body absorbs liquids more readily than tablet forms; if you use Glucosamine & Chondroitin, I highly recommend trying the liquid form.
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What brand?
@@Pellican516 Nature's Way Joint Movement Glucosamine, Extra Strength - each serving contains 2000mg Glucosamine, 1200 mg Condroitin, msm, and vitamin D3. I purchased mine online through Vitacost. I took 3-3.5 teaspoons every day. You may want to start out with a little heavier daily dose for the first week to get it into your system and back of to 3 full teaspoons a day. I also take psyllium husk every day and mixed the liquid Glucosamine and water with my powdered psyllium husk. It doesn't taste bad; you could take it by itself or mixed with water or juice.
Never heard of liquid form
How's it taste? Lol
I was skeptical, but I recently started taking glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, and it has helped my knee pain and overall aches. I take the triple strength.
What is the triple strength
@@Pellican516 probably 3 times more than the usual dosage sold on the market?
Your presentation was clear concise and easy to understand. As a wellness nurse I firmly believe knowledge is the key to helping people engage in pursuing healthy sustainable habits over a lifetime. People generally will be willing to make positive lifestyle changes if they can see benefits early in the course of any potential illness.
Several years ago my left knee hurt so much I couldn't go up stairs. I saw a knee surgeon who said nothing can be done and I should schedule knee replacement. I asked to have a PT appointment. He said 90% of my knee pain would go away in 3 months if I did the ankle and hip exercises he recommended. I did and my knees are still pain free. I use Glucosamine and MSM just for insurance. I regularly do the ankle and hip exercises. My hips and ankles were extremely weak before doing the exercises. Bottom line, define the problem before scheduling treatment.
Be very interested to know exactly which exercises you were prescribed if you don’t mind. Thank you
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Any video link on the exercises? Can pls share? Tq
Can you describe those ankle and hip exercises, please?
I love how the study says "in the short term" I have never been under the impression that these were beneficial unless taken for a while...
This is not a supplement that works short term. It takes time for it to work to feel a difference. It is a long term supplement. It took a long time to develop worn painful joints and it takes time for Glucosamine, Chondroitin and MSM to help in the healing process. We have become a society of instant gratification. The body heals but not in an instant. An ounce of preventation is worth a pound of cure . Look at medical studies with a jaundiced eye. Who is sponsoring the study?
Yes! I were late in ordering my supply once, and in just over a week felt the ache coming back.
Well for me usually 1-2 weeks pain free
My experience taking Condroitin and glucosamine
(g & c)together took time (several months ) but performed 3 repairs for me .
1/ I had a tear in my miniscus (knee) causing clicking and locking up with pain .
2/ My big toe was locking up and bending my foot in normal or quick walking was very painful .
3/ I tore a tendon in my little finger knuckle .
By taking g & c 2 times per day for 4 months my toe suddenly made a loud click . I exercised it back an forth further clicking . I was able to walk and run again without restriction and pain .
My knee stopped locking up and clicking after 6 months .
I stopped taking my 2 doses and my toe locked up again after 2 months so I took g & c again and it disappeared in days . I would take
g & c for 2 days whenever my toe would lock up .
My knee remained healthy for nearly 11 years when after kneeling on a hard floor for 5 minutes doing repairs I acquired a new clicking not miniscus but more like a tendon that was sliding out of its normal place and rubbing badly .
Im working on that with g & c and limiting the incorrect sliding by using elastic bandage when exercising now .
I also had the same issue in my little finger knuckle . I would bend it but could not straighten it . I wrapped it to keep the tendon from sliding to the side of the knuckle and took g&c and in 2 months regained normal function .
Glucosamine with Chondroitin has helped me fix tendon /ligament damage , arthitic joint lock (big toe) and repaired a torn miniscus in my knee so far .
I would say that it has really helped make repairs in my body .
After its already in my system , I only take it when joint damage occurs for brief periods .
It seems to work for a few months after .
I feel that it is helping the damage to reattach itself and mend back to its normal .
Thank you for sharing
what was your dosage? same or more than recommended in this video?
In 1993 my wife and got rear ended by a truck on the freeway. After that my neck was trashed, so painful it literally limited me to muscle relanta and pain pills. Months after doctors, orthopedic surgeons and eventually chiropractors. Then I started taking a very heavy does of glucosamine/chondroitin. It took a few months to take hold, but eventually I believe my cartilage became more functional and possibly repaired itself. That is a fact and it made me functional once again. I’m now 77 work hard and take little meds. If I were to sustain another damaged joint, I would immediately turn to this supplement once again. It takes a steady intake of a sizable dose, and it takes several months to recognize its effects. See for yourself…
Which brand?
In my late 40s I had knee pain hiking and skiing. I even took up scuba so I would have a sport if my knees got worse. I also started G&C daily. It took a couple of years, but I was able to stop using neoprene compression on my knees. Now 76, my knees are fine and I'm still hiking and skiing, yes and taking G&C.
I also have been taking glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM since 1998 ! At that time I was suffering with pain and stiffness in my right hip, my family doctor ordered a X-ray and found that I had moderate to severe joint degenaration in my hip. He suggested that I could try glucosamine and chondroitin with MSM. I also would see Chiropractors for neck & hip adjustments. After about 3 weeks I could feel my mobility had improved as well much less pain . Not only did I get improvement in my hip but also my neck issues disappeared.
Just to mention that Veterinarians also prescribe glucosamine and chondroitin to horses & dogs that have mobility problems where noticeable improvement is seen !
One more thing that I think needs to be said is that glucosamine and chondroitin won't work if your joint is bone to bone.
For me, glucosamine was a miracle. But probably not for everyone. I started a job delivering meat in my 50's. I would jump off the back of the truck, trying to give the impression I was young again. After a few months, my hand and knee joints were extremely stiff and painful in the morning when I woke up. I started taking glucosamine and it brought immediate relief. Because I had worked these joints for only a few months, maybe it would be different for say a carpet layer or bricklayer, who may have done it all their lives. I kept taking them, even after leaving the job after 10 months.
After three years I changed brands and it seemed to produce blood thinning and low blood pressure, so I ceased taking the glucosamine. Amazingly, I felt as good as I did prior to doing the job.
4:13 started taking a glucosamine and chondroitin for joint achiness a few years back and definitely noticed they have a delayed which is easy to overlook both going on and coming off (about effect 3-5 days for me). That these also act to address inflammation helps me to put in perspective why they work for me.
Yes, agreed. G and C with HA and collagen, the last 2x-day. Right hip pain almost gone. Still cant sit lotus position, but now I walk 40 min/ day with no pain. Initially 1 year ago I couldn't walk 1 step w/o pain, and was taking acitaminophen to sleep- which is terrible for liver.
In my early thirties my elbows and knees would get horribly stiff and painful, I saw a 60 minutes show about msm, glucosamine and chondroitin and there were several older people talking about there experience with it, this was in the late eighties. I started taking it and it helped tremendously. I’ve taken them ever since and I’m 64 now. It worked for me. I started taking a prescription nsaid for arthritis several years ago in addition to the supplements because as I got older I got stiffer and it hasn’t helped near as much as when I first took the supplements
@joecook8352 I would like to get your opinion on the subject of GLUCOSamine. If you have an Instagram account, is it possible to write and share it here?
I compressed my spine twice and cracked 3 vertebrae along with damage to feet, knees and hips while in Vietnam. After the service I lived a normal working life including farming and commercial fishing until about 55, but not without pain. In the 80s I started using Glucosamine & Chondroitin regularly and later off and on. It helped the back and the other joints. I have xrays going back to the 1960s. There's more cartilage now. I'm an old man and have my aches and pains with some other issues, but don't take prescription drugs or recreational drugs. I live on a small ship and am still active.
What was the strength of glucosamine chondritin that u took?
@@rit20095 For a few months: Glu 3000mg, Chond: 2400mg. Then 1500 & 1200 for a year. Then none for a couple years. Then 1500 & 1200 for about 3 months a year.
The science reveals itself through out the comments.
I am 66. I started taking G & C in the 90s when I was still doing ballet. I kept taking it. I still do yoga, hiking, weight training, biking. I plant to keep taking it to stay off meds and nsaids. I also take turmuric and hyaloronic acid for my joints and ligaments.
I'm presently using a product from Solgar which combines, in 3 daily tablets, the recommended mg levels of these two nutrients, integrated with 1,500 mg MSM & 300 mg of their formulation of "Biocell Collagen II" (180 mg Hydrolyzed Collagen II, 48 mg Chondroitin Sulfate, 30 mg Hyaluronic Acid). I also drink a daily scoop of a collagen peptide powder mixed in water.
My objective is focused on rebuilding cartilage rather than simply reduction in pain. Knee cartilage destruction results in damage to the meniscus. In theory the meniscus can heal, but degenerated cartilage will just continue to "grind" the meniscus like sand paper. So, the goal is to reduce degeneration of cartilage.
I plan to continue on this formulation for 1 year and see where it takes me. My knee arthritis does not produce chronic pain, though most days low to moderate discomfort. I am 70 yo and exercise consistently including a return to measured weekly running. I am interested in reading your thoughts on this regimen.
Thanks for your informative posts .... much appreciated.
Thanks for sharing!
Good video. Extremely informative. Thank you
I have been having knee pain..later diagnosed as osteoarthritis for almost a decade. The doctor suggested surgery but I did my own research on what is effective for me.. Collagen, omega 3, boswellia with turmeric and pepper besides glucosamine + chondrotine +MSN.. Very very effective for me.
Thanks for sharing
@harjitkaur5407 which brands do you use?
@@revathik9225 swissmed omega plus 1000mg , Himalaya shallaki (boswellia),
Which brand r u taking?
@@rit20095 as of present I am only taking boswellia Himalaya brand and omega 3. Omega Plus Swiss med . Has cut down on the rest of the supplements. Now maintaining with only those two.
All your videos are great! Also glucosamine works for me and my knee pain.
GREAT RESULTS! After taking a supplement with Collagen+Glucosamine+Chondroitin for 2 years, I have experienced much less pain, most of the time no pain at all, AND my MRI shows my osteoarthritis has reverted from an initial painful Stage-4 to a now easy-to-manage Stage 1. My doctor says this is not the same for everyone, but my body responded well. -- BTW: I took “Carticure Plus” (by a Spanish pharmaceutical): containing 5000mg Collagen (Bioactive Peptides), 1500mg Glucosamine hydrochloride, 1200mg Chondroitin sulfate, Copper, Vitamin C, Manganese. It’s an orange flavored powder you mix with water. As per Dr instruction: I took 1/day for the first 6 months, then 1 every-other-day forever. It has rebuilt my cartage, or maybe just allowed by body to do what it was meant to do.
Thanks for sharing
Hi, great to hear your experience. Did you have knee osteoarthritis ? and whats your age, if i may ask? My mom has been diagnosed with knee osteoarthritis grade 2-3 almost. she is not experiencing that much pain but movement walking time is restricted to very limited, because of discomfort and slight pain. Doctor prescribed "cartibless" supplement which has collagen glucosamine chondroitin vitamin c hyaluronic ingredients and multi vitamin supplemetnts. she is taking for almost 1.5 months. I would love to hear how you did it or your journey, what was your experience for 2 years. It could really help us understand how to deal with it. she is just 53.
Thanks
@@inhalingexhaling1852 Yes, I have osteoarthritis in both knees + meniscus tear in right knee. I am 61 years old. I force myself to walk 1 hours/day (3-6 km), this is key to move the joint so it lubricates well. I stopped taking Carticure for a few months last year (arrogantly thought I was "cured"), & the pain came back with a vengeance, could only walk very short distances. I went back on Carticure and after 2 months was again pain-free, however, I did have to incorporate strength training + daily stretching since I could not walk very much for a while. At my age it's surprising how quickly one loses muscle strength!
From stage 4 to stage 1. Is it real?
@@delsisabarc5790 oh nice. good to hear you are doing well with this. I also think movement, walking is the key here with supplements and physiotherapy or chiropractor. Because that helped my mother from getting exhausted now, able to walk without any discomfort. Thanks for sharing, Do update on it. Maybe we all can learn and grow from each other experiences.
I agree with digital.mente. I've been taking Osteo Bi Flex for years. I've tried other brands when the store was out, but they didn't work as well. And if I run out, I can really feel it!
Glad you found something that works for you!
I have found taking the Kirkland brand Glucosamine Sulfate, Chondroitin and MSM works for me. I just take 2 tablets each night. If I stop this routine I start getting arthritic pain again, so I keep it up. (Before getting on to this combination, I was using just Glucosamine with good effect, provided it was the more expensive sulfate rather than the cheaper hydrochloride form.)
Dr. Peng, Thanks for a very informative video. My personal experience is that the two meds when combined with MSM are very beneficial. I'm a 78 year old male with a family history of osteoarthritis. MSM definitely adds to the effectiveness. More studies should be done with the trifecta. I am living proof that it works.
Thanks for sharing
And the next question would be whether the chondroitin could be supplanted by MSM? I've been taking glucosamine with MSM for 23 years. As always: "More studies are needed..."
@shrinandan3458 Which brands of glucosamine and MSM do you use?
Thank you very much Dr. Peng for the very useful lecture. From my own experience Glucosamine /Chondroitin as long term supplement helped me in summer months. Unfortunately, I suffer from extreme pain during Autumn/Winter season. So I tried with Hyaluron injection once a week all in all 5x to which the Orthopedic told me I can have up to 10 injections yearly. To date I have none or just tolerable pain during Autumn/Winter time.And that saved me to date from having artificial knee joint.
Awesome, thanks for sharing
@@JeffreyPengMD I thank you Dr. Peng. I gained additional knowledge following your Vlogs. 👍👏
Take it with Omega 3 and it will double the effects
That study is completely wrong. My Basset Hound has arthritis and nearly could not walk. We started giving her glucosamine & condroitin and she improved on the very first day. (We didn't tell her what it was, so no placebo effect :) ). She has been taking it for about 3 months and her improvement has been consistent and dramatic. She is running again.
In Britain the health authority declared its effects to be only as a placebo. My first thought was how does that explain its effects on animals?
Most studies are funded by a pharmaceutical company with the goal of selling more drugs, and refuting any supplement that will not allow them to make money.
My neck vertebrae was trapping a nerve and within a week the pain was gone and I noticed a difference within a few days
Thankyou!
I was skeptical at first, as a physician. I tried a short course of Glucosamine / Chondroitin in the past with little relief. I had been active, going to gym, hiking , martial arts and work. Sudden onset of arthritis in my k red was extremely painful. Tried nsaids, then knee injections with steroid once then two injections with hyaluroninase gel. First gave some improvement. Wore off in a few weeks. Second was not terribly successful, needed, nsaid. Started combination Glucosamine/Chondroitin and relief started in about 3 weeks, and is better entering my second month. I am walking, with my dog which was difficult, not getting pain at rest bit driving, can do more squats and horse stance posture workouts , and able to perform martial arts kicking again. A study looking at poor response from gel with addition of Glucosamine/Chondtoitin. I was looking at knee replacements , which now do not appear to be necessary. I will follow up with repeat k we c rays to see what status of arthritis changes are
I'm encouraged by your post! It's been four months. Care to report on your progress? Still positive about G and C? Thanks.
i take both Gluc and Chon and Syn Flex for 20 yrs...I stopped the synflex for a month and my knees started hurting...guess what, I went back on synflex and all the pain went away....I will take both for the rest of my life
I knew I had arthritis in my knees and the specialist said I would need a knee replacement down the track. In February 23 I started weight lift training. I now have no pain in my knees and I have ditched the cane. The replacement diagnosis 10 years ago. The weight lifting has built up the muscles around the knees supports the knees.
Well here's one for you then, I had a dog that was suffering from arthritis several years after knee reconstruction surgery, she had trouble walking and was acting like she was years older than she actually was. The vet suggested we give her a G&C supplement daily, where the first 6 weeks would be a double dose and then settling down to the normal dose. Well after years of struggling she started getting the bounce back in her step and remained like that until the last year or so before her death. OK, I accept she was dog, and maybe there is a bit of a metabolic difference but it can't have been a placebo effect because we didn't tell her what we were giving her and how she would feel better (you do get that I'm being facetious here), so the change had to be from the G&C.
YOU'RE right and the stuff sold for dogs is much more expensive .............I gave it to my Rotties as they aged up at about 6-7 years........One pill a day.....a 2nd if a limp or gimpiness persists.........
I have had DDD in one of my lower back discs, and last Sunday I had a massive flare up. I had extreme pain and could not stand up straight, couldn’t sleep well, and could not walk normally or even bend over without pain.
The first morning following the day I took glucosamine and Chondroitin, my pain is basically gone. The pain level went from a 10 to a 2.
How are you doing now ?
I have DDD too and this gives me hope.
How much G/C were you taking, I’ve just started taking 2 capsules a day for my osteoarthritis and hoping it helps after a few weeks.
Hi so recently, i started feeling a low back pain untill i figure it out it was my sciatica never and my friend whos a personal trainer advised me to take msm glucosamine + magnesium + amino acids, fun fact i started yesterday and was i was feeling pain yesterday at night, today i woke up with a almost no pain 😅 its crazy but its true, i will keep taking it and see how i feel in the next few weeks
I’ve been installing carpet for 30 years and my knees are pretty rough. I’ve been taking a supplement that has glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM. It’s the MSM that makes all the difference. When I take it I can go up and down steps virtually pain free and can run as well. I HIGHLY recommend it. It’s been a game changer for this lifelong carpet installer.
Great shout and I also now use MSM but It worked great with Omega 3 the best
The cited study said specifically, "in the short term." I think a completely different, and more relevant question is, "Does glucosamine chondroitin help in the long term with consistent use?" In my experience, it doesn't help much in the short term, but IT DOES HELP when taken consistently in the long term.
I agree and have been taking the least expensive i can find , for about 20 years..........Couldn't or wouldn't be without it..! I'm 70 now....
Been taking Osteo Bi-Flex or generic triple strength equivalent for decades after osteoarthritis started in my hands in early 40s. Works great. However, I take 2-3X what label says (2 pills per meal vs. label dose of 2 pills per day with food), which is also 2-3X dose that doc here suggested near end of video. At lower dose, my joint pain quickly returns.
I've tried just about everything known to Man without much success, i then tried Green Lipped Mussel from NZ & have found a great improvement :) I gave everything i tried 12 weeks & if i didn't feel any improvement i moved on to another supplement, the green lipped musssel showed improvement with in a few weeks.
I've been taking it for about 2 years now & i have to say i'm really impressed with the results.
The first study mentions was has no effect on 'short term' pain and function, the other studies appear to look at a longer view .... glucosamine & chondroitin is a long term play. After years of knee pain (not arthritis) it took a few months of glucosamine and chondroitin for the pain to leave, and function improve.
I have been taking them since my thirty’s to avoid having problems as my mother suffered from arthritis. I’m nearly 60 and gave to say my joints are in good condition for my age
I take collagen daily. I also take a supplement containing glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM and tumeric. After 6 weeks, I am pain free! OA in the right knee.
I take turmeric, glucosamine, chondroitin. All help my OA, but just started on Hyaluronic Acid. Results are stunning.
My story is interesting. I was developing OA in my right hip from the mid 1990's on, but I thought it was a muscle problem. The pain was never in the hip, but in the inner thigh. By 2001, I was in severe pain and limping badly. A rheumatologist diagnosed mild to moderate OA and said I would need a hip replacement within 5 years. He asked me if I wanted a referral to a surgeon. I told him that I had just started to take glucosamine and wanted to see if it would work. Within a week of taking it, my pain was totally gone in all normal activities, sitting, walking, standing and sleeping.
For the next 14-15 years, glucosamine worked for me, but not all brands. For example, the CVS brand did not work. During this entire period, I only experienced pain infrequently and then only for one to a few minutes. I felt normal. I would often sprint to catch a bus or race down the stairs to catch a train with no pain.
I didn't always take glucosamine with chondroitin. Often, I took glucosamine by itself and it worked very well. I concluded that chondroitin was of no help for pain. Some of the products had proprietary ingredients like bromelain and other anti-inflammatories, but not all. I can't judge the effectiveness of the proprietary formulas, since they all contained glucosamine, 1500 mgs. The form of glucosamine did not matter.
I want to emphasize that brand mattered. Glucosamine is a large molecule and you need a formulation that can be absorbed into the joint. You have to try things. My advice is to not go cheap. Some of the better products can run $40-50/month, but some in the $18-25 range worked equally well. There are often 2 for 1 sales with some products.
Some products worked for a period of time like 2-3 years, then began to lose effectiveness. When that happened, I switched to other products and was lucky that several brands worked very well. After 14 years, I started to get some pain at times and none of the glucosamine products were left to try. I knew that I was going to need a hip replacement. I started to play sports again and sure enough I found myself in severe pain again, with no safe product to take. I got lucky though. I learned about hip resurfacing, a surgery in which the arthritis is fixed without removing the hip. I still have my original hip and it's strong enough to play any sport. I haven't had any pain since the surgery was healed. That was in 2018. Glucosamine can definitely work, though not necessarily for everyone, but you need to experiment with the brand. My experience was not unique. Also, it may work for the hip but not the knee, or vv.
I would definitely do the exercises that Dr. Peng is demonstrating, and others. Thanks to Dr. Peng for this excellent video.
You must be using the "sulfate" form of the two. I also take MSM.
You didn't take it with Omega 3 that is important
Great video! I have psoriatic arthritis. I’m on a biologic. I also have developed chondromalacia patella. These supplements I assume are tested by themselves not with any added rehab exercises. My hypothesis is that combination of these with a proper workout plan designed to promote cartilage health might increase the rapidity and total gains seen in the injury.
My own independent study over past 10 + years. Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM helped my knees but not my hip.
I have switched to using Turmeric and ginger with Black pepper extract for my kneecap arthritis. I used to be in significant pain while using Glucosamine and Chondroitin. I now have minimal pain and I never feel the grinding in my kneecap.This improvement took place within the first week of use. I walk about 10 K a day. I am 66 years old.
Dr.Peng, thank you so much to your such a good information...
I take Amlodipine. That and my Don Joy unloader brace are total game changers for me.
I was taking NAC for some flue symptoms and it fixed my knees, so now I'm taking NAC everyday and my knees are back to a 20 years old athletic guy
let’s say for instance that a maltracking of a patella has been resolved and there is no longer friction but there is some residual erosion to the cartilage. will glucosamine regenerate that cartilage
I have been taking Glucosamine on its own, which works really well for me. I don’t take Chondroitin as I have a bad reaction from it.
I found that my body does not make good use of glucosamine but I do get results with glucosamine sulfate. I had been using glucosamine sulfate for a couple of years and it seemed to help. Then over about a 3 week period it seemed to have stopped working. I starred looking to see what was up and realized I had purchased glucosamine rather than the glucosamine sulfate I normally bought.
I have been taking glucosamine and condroitin for a few years now. If I go without taking the supplement for a few days I can loudly hear by knees clicking as I walk down the stairs. You might be able to ignore pain, as in placibo effect, but it is hard to ignore an audible sound.
One or both of those is known to block glucose uptake in the gut. People with metabolic disease typically have greater pain/burning sensations when exposed to sugar/carbs, so that's a mechanism that would apply depending on when you ingest relative to a meal.
It works for me as i had Hip Flexor pain. Thank God I found this miracle 😊
how many dosage of g&c did you take?
Beginning in my 40s my right knee didn't have pain but rather felt loose. When I stressed it, like running for a just a very short distance it would again, not hurt but felt even "looser". When going down steps it would pop when I bent that knee. I knew I needed to do something or I was going to eventually have to do knee replacement.
I began taking a shellfish based liquid glucosamine/condroitin/MSM and I began feeling a positive change. I tried other types of powder glucosamine and eventually I would have the same loose feeling in my knee. I went back to the shellfish based liquid glucosamine and my knee would get better. I concluded that shellfish is the best source of glucosamine if you're not allergic. I've been taking a shellfish based gummy glucosamine/condtroitin/MSM supplement and it's been working just as well as the liquid, but I don't have to worry about refrigeration.
what brand?
@@smarzig I was using Flexicose. But when my old fridge stopped working a couple times causing me to dump a couple of opened bottles I switched to gummy glucosamine since they don't have to be refrigerated.
I used to work in Singapore from 2000 to 2002, using MRT as the main mode of transportation. My knees hurt and began taking glucosamine. It helped but the pain returned once I stopped taking it. Luckily someone introduced me to Qi Qong and I have been practising it since 2011. I have not taken any glucosamine since then. The trick is the horse stances in Qi Gong strengthened my leg muscles. Actually horse stances of any martial art help strengthen leg muscles. Now I am 63 years old and hike once a week to maintain my fitness and overall well being.
What is Qi Qong?
Google it to find out more
I was given tablets by the wife and thought it was just vitamins.
all of a sudden, my knee felt strange, like it was lubricated, stopped hurting.
She gave be Glucosamine.
If you were told it was just vitamins you didn't get the placebo effect
I have found that Glucosamine and Chondroitin work well with the osteoarthritis in my wrists. I was taking Glucosamine alone for some time before joint pain led to a referral to the local hand clinic. They confirmed the loss of cartilage between the lunate and capitate bones and recommended adding Chondroitin to my intake. Since then the wrist function has improved greatly and I have no pain at all.
Merhaba kıkırdakta yırtık mı oldu yoksa diz kıkırdağında yırtık mı var bu glukozamin vitamini işime yarar mı?
@othmansamara8470 it might be. I can't say but it would be worth trying for a couple of mo ths to see if it helps. It helped my wrists a lot.
YES, IT CAN'T GIVE IMMEDIATE RELIEF, BUT VERY EFFECTIVE IN LONG TERM, AND ONE WILL EXPERIENCE ITS EFFECTIVENESS IF ONE STOPS TAKING THEM ON DAILY BASIS FOR A WEEK OR TWO, THE ARTHRITIS PAINS COME BACK
Works for me. How do I know? My doctor first advised me to take it for knee osteoarthritis twenty years ago. This was after I asked her why my knees clicked when I climbed stairs. After several months the clicking went away. I got somewhat light minded about taking the supplements after ten years. The clicking returned. I resumed daily consumption and after a couple of weeks the clicking went away and has stayed away. I also now swim and bike on a daily basis but the glucosamine and chondroitin supplements have helped me for the last twenty years outside of the brief interruption that negatively proved the point.
Awesome!
I am 76, have used glucosamine and condroitin since my forties and walk 4-6 miles every day with my dog and most days ride a stationary bike approx 15 miles, and have no pain in any of my joints. Earlier in the year I broke my knee cap, upon having and MRI the doctor noted I had NO arthritis and the knee joint look like that of a twenty year old. Only problem is the knee cap. I'll continue to take the glucosamine and condroitin and no unknown youtube doctor trying to make money will change my mind,.
IT WORKS, PERIOD! Noticeable improvement in one week. Also notice return of pain when stop taking it after 5 days. The D/P companies just can't make any money from it., hence all the bought and paid for studies trying to condemn it. iF YOU HAVE JOINT PAIN DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND TRY. CAN'T HURT AND YOU WILL KNOW IF IT HELPS BY END OF FIRST BOTTLE.
I've been taking a combination dose at 1500 and 1200 for 25 years. I have noticed that when I run out it takes about 3 to 4 days for pain in my knees to start and by day 6 I can hardly walk. It takes about 3 weeks to get back to normal after.
Ive also noticed that doses significantly below the 1200 of the chondroitin does not work. Nor does talking chondroitin on its own work. It has to be the correct combined dose.
I have recommended this daily dose for both to others and 100% of those that take it as recommended fond the same results. I meet a wmen at work that came for a meeting the other day and we some how got talking about osteoarthritis, so I recommended Glucosamine & Chondroitin. She contacted me after about a month and said after years of pain this has been the best advice she has ever had. She said the pain was about 50% less.
I take these supplements. Often stop thinking they are not working. Always have to go back to them within a few week due to pain coming back. The longer I stay on them the pain almost goes leaving me free to walk regularly and play golf twice a week. I started them around 5 years ago and I am 80.
I agree. More studies need to be done about whether Glucosomine and Chondrotin is an effective sopplement to help hip, knee and other joint pain.
Personal experience is good enough study for most people
Started getting knee and joint pain in late 40s (after being put on statins for high cholesterol, and was told by friends that they felt statins were the problem). After stopping the statins mist of the effects seemes to decrease but not disappear. Doctor later recommended glucosamine & C) which Ive been on for almost 5 years and joint pain and weakness feels much better but I can't say my regimen is a guaranteed success. Thanks to Costco prices my G&C costs are low so I keep taking it.
The recent discussion about unknown higher levels of microplastics in bottled water may explain a LOT of health issues and I hope THAT research ramps up immediately.
I took glucosamine and condroitin for my knees a decade ago and inexplicably started to get pain in both big toes. Tried it again (just two doses) two years ago and it happened again...and it lasted a long time. No mas.
I used to take the combined glucosamine/chondroitin, but then read that the one of them - I don’t remember which one - made no difference in studies so I quit and started taking MSM/chondroitin(?). Eventually, I started taking only the MSM. I really don’t notice much difference with any of the combinations - or when used alone and may quit. I do take the fish oil, or krill oil. I think it helps - but mostly, my first noticeable difference was in my thinking/brain. Lately, I’ve discovered red light therapy and I’ve been using a band that wraps around my back, hip or knees, and recently, my shoulder. It has made the most noticeable difference.
I have to agree with the other comments. I have been taking a combination of glucosamine/ chondroitin for at least 10 years and by X-ray I had severe osteoarthritis of my knees but not clinically severe. I do not have knee pain, occasional stiffness if I exercise to aggressively but that is to be expected. Pain is definitely subjective and tolerance levels as well. I believe from my personal experience that this supplement combination is essential and it does take weeks to start to feel an effect when first starting out. There is a supplement that I would appreciate your imputen call Alpha Lipoic Acid for inflammation. I stated this supplement in 2019 because even though I didn’t have pain, I did experience swelling most of the time to some degree. Well, I started taking the Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 mg once a day and with in 2 weeks the swelling was significantly better. I am truly a sceptic so when I was traveling I ran out of it and then forgot about it for 3 weeks until my swelling started to return so I thought okay let’s buy some and start it again. One week later the inflammation was gone and I have been stable ever since. These things are miracles, I still cannot jog, jump or anything that relies on my knees being stable to support me but hey I have a quality of life walking, swimming as long as I don’t take on very steep ups or downs. 😊
🙏 I’ve tried Activ8 Joint complete and found a helped reduce my pain 8 ingredients but is expensive I’m now trying Holland and Barrett cheaper turmeric and Boswellia and ginger they say helps I also bought glucosamine sulphate but found out it doesn’t help joints pain after test and you can have a reaction to the shell 🐚 fish 🎣 and blood 🩸 sugar levels so please check with your gp first good luck without prejudice 👍
My anecdote. I've been using glucosamine for 15+ years for hip problems. I had a THR 13 years ago. Subsequently I've started to experience knee pain. 2 years ago I switched to glucosamine and chondroitin and after 2 months the pain stopped and so far has not returned.
There is a big difference between repairing a damaged joint and maintaining joint health over the long term, many studies have focused on short term repair and many are very poorly designed using vague metrics- one widely reported study used vague measures of patient evaluated discomfort in patients with serious joint damage over a short period. Many people I know take supplements for maintenance and inflammation reduction- these are very active people with osteoarthritis. I take glucosamine/chondroitin/ASU as formulated by Dr Theodakis who claims clinical evidence for ASU is stronger than for G -C, even given clinically demonstrated benefits of G-C. I haven’t seen much on ASU in the popular media.
Everytime I stop taking glucosamine my knees hurt
I’m 24 and concerned about future joint issues due to an injury in my left wrist and a family history of osteoarthritis. I hope it will help prevent it.
The research is flawed. Research needs to combine motion and exercise. Athletes used Glucosamine with Chondroitin for years. The supplement wasn’t expensive. However, very effective.
Medical journals wrote favorable results. Then the cost quickly doubled.
Healthy active people that combine these supplements will recover faster and get stronger after 6 to eight weeks of consistent use.
Without combining motion, mild resistance training and refraining from inflammatory foods, people may not see positive results. This is why the studies vary so much. They intentionally leave out physical activity and diet to keep their research isolated to the product. This will fail a high percentage of the time.
interesting
Good point. Motion is how joints heal through the synovial fluid so that would make sense.,
Glucosamine and Chondroitin have been a real benefit to me , thus i belive in it as no other has been
able to relive me of pain and miscomfort . I have 2 bad spinal discs plus 1 kracted disc. If you have found taking these have had no positive effect , the cause may be the amount taken is insufficent .
Prior to getting bilateral hip replacement and one knee replacement, I tried several different brands of each of clucosamine and chondritin, and as far as I could tell, they didn't do anything to relieving joint pain. It was long enough ago that I don't remember if I tried them together. There could be multiple reasons for them not working, including how severe my issues were.
it helps me vith curcu 4:31 min, collagen, omega 3 and k2d3 vitamins. i was like invalid vith my left arm fingers before i started using this combination of suplement s
Thank you for your research and all you do to inform us. YOU ROCK! 🙌 BTW: I have been taking it for awhile now and it is deff God sent🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for commenting!
I slipped on ice and tore up my ankle, ended up going to the physiotherapist for an evaluation (this was six months after the accident). The reason was my ankle was stiff in the mornings and it took ten minutes to loosen it up.
I was recommended this supplement and after taking it for three months I noticed a improvement (took it for another three months before discontinuing).
It has been twenty five years later and I have absolutely no issues with my ankle.
Now I am not sure how long a severe sprain regardinging the ankle takes to heal but I can honestly say taking the supplements did not hurt.
I am 82...I take the combination for a few months to a few years at a time and heal to such a degree that I can stop taking it for years at a time and be fine...I think it allows the cartilage to rebuild.
My knee was bothering me when I was in my 30’s. The doctor told me my cartilage had gone down. So I couldn’t even kneel in church to pray nor change my baby’s diaper. I took the Glucosome Chondroitan. I took it for just a couple weeks. The pain went away and I never had to take it again
Glucosamine and chondroitin is improved by nearly double and within 2 weeks if you take it with Omega 3. I was on steroids for my neck and couldn't reduce the prednisolone until I took these 3 and it worked in days
Im 35 but use my arms so much to push my wheelchair and use my arms too move a lot. I started trying some glucosamine- and will try some other things, Im looking for something that actually helps repair soft tissue and cartilage. The problem with joint overuse or injury is that they have less blood supply to transport certain nutrients to repair this kind of tissue. If glucosamine is not ideal, than what is?
Hello sir,
My doctor has given me glucosamine only but not chondroitin. Can you suggest medicines containing both the combinations. I am from India and I am taking Lubrijoint od.
Thanks & Regards
Swapnil kabra
This supplement saved my life
Thank you for this post. I see that, along with the Glucosamine/Condroitin (G/C) some combinations include Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM). So how does this alter the equation? The majority of these supplements are manufactured using shellfish. There are some that are shellfish free, created by fermentation, I believe of corn. Further, what roll do GMO foods play? Both in causing inflammation in the first place and how the supplements manufactured with them differ in outcomes.
Lastly, what about all the "other" ingredients? Magnesium stearate. stearic acid, etc. and how could they possibly alter the findings?
Microplastics and particle pollution - something we all have and cannot limit exposure to, lead to chronic inflamation. These have been found in umbilical cords so pass from mothers lungs into babies blood. We are setting ourselves up for shorter lives with more suffering. Ditching plastic and fossil fuels is needed to help our grandchildren.
My experience with hip joint pain runs counter - that Glucosamine and Chondroitin does not reduce hip joint pain. My experience is that hyaluronic acid 3.3mg/daily taken with Boron 5mg/daily and with Type II Collagen can temporarily reduce hip pain so pain killers like NSAID are not needed for hip joint pain.
The studies should focus on actual MRI to see changes on cartilage, improvement on pain could even mean these supplements block pain receptors, since many people report pain after stop taking them
I am some kind of outlier in this battle with arthritis: I seem to be allergic to chondroitin! I was having deterioration of my ankles and hip sockets so I faithfully tried G&C for a month. It did not help and I got worse, so I took MORE for another month. Worse! It dawned upon me that if the more I take the worse I get, then I should STOP. Within two days of quitting almost all of my pain was GONE!
After a month of only mild pain I discovered glucosamine-sulfate, and since both chemicals are a factor in joint health I tried it twice per day. INCREDIBLE RELIEF! My joint arthritis is GONE using it only once per day! All along I was also taking capsules of hyaluronic acid powder twice a day which only helped a little, but the combination of the three is just what I needed. My joints were HEALED! I am building my cartilage back up. For a while glucosamine-sulfate was hard to find, and I made do with just glucosamine and another sulfate compound MSM. It sort of worked but I longed for the other; when glucosamine-sulfate became available again I went back to it with much better results.................................elsullo
I've been on it since 1993. If I stop (I have twice) my pain comes back. I take half the recommended dose and I use the Swanson brand. It's not a placebo. I notice how when something works, mainstream says it's the placebo effect. I'm a healthy 70-year-old man and have rarely taken doctors advice, also I have not had any kind of jab since 1999. Furthermore, I started studying natural health in 1993 and continued for 20 years of course work and applying what I learned. If you don't know how to take care of yourself by the time you are 40, then you deserve the doctors and the hospitals. Also, never had a colonoscopy.
This is very funny for me: "mainstream says it's the placebo", in stead of recognizing the reward and working of med in the desired direction.
I would say, I will keep taking placebo. as it is working for me
I started dosing my German Shepherd and within two weeks she was moving like she hadn't for years. I never told her what I was doing so it's not like she responded to thinking she should be improving.
I'm 55 and ride BMX bikes on and off for the last forty years. I started with knee pain about three years ago, much physio, insoles for my flat feet and the pain came and went. in October of 2023 the pain retuned and I got an MRI scan in early 2022 , result onset of osteoarthritis, I've been recommended Glucosamine and have been told it could take up 6 to 8 weeks for the pain to go away. I'll try it and see if there is any improvement. If not I'll look to alternatives. Missing my bike riding a lot now.
My orthopedic surgeon promotes the use of Glucosamine chondroitin and CBD. He also uses them himself. He’s one doctor who has so much experience and instincts when it comes to recommending a treatment plan. I had a labral tear in my hip during a car accident that has lead to chronic trochanteric bursitis. I also have rotoscoliosis at base of my lumbar spine extending into my sacral nerve root. I developed hypertrophy of quadratis lumborum (QL)on my right nearly no musculature on my left. My life is like a house of cards but that said I’ve learned to find tools to ameliorate my symptoms. I’ve found acupuncture and chiropractic the most useful in managing my condition
Greetings Dr. Peng. I watched the above video, as well as dozens of your other videos, including the video on Tumeric & Curcumin. Since both videos indicate potential benefits to inflammation & pain reduction, do you recommend taking;
Tumeric & Curcumin
As well as
Glucosamine with Chondroitin?
Both seem like low risk high upside and worth a try, especially turmeric/curcumin.
I take glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, hyaluronic acid, boswelia serrata, rosehip extract, curcumin, piperine and Type 1-2-3-5-10 collagen. I have no osteoarthritis or anything but just to keep my fitness intact. The recovery of joints is insane. After every hardcore workout, next day the joints feel like I haven't worked out in ages, I am ready to go another huge session.
The truth for me is that it doesn't work at all. The first sadness was that something in my Super Seed fiber supplement was not compatible with GC. Three hours after taking the fiber, I would get very nauseated to the point of vomiting. I tried a period of rest for nearly two weeks and then tried it again with the same result. I had been taking this Super Seed fiber for a few years with no problems at all. The second problem with GC is the nausea that I got when I got up to the full dose of three capsules a day. I reduced it down to two a day and the nausea went away, but I still was not having any benefits with my arthritis pain. I'm giving it up now as a waste of money. I'm currently waiting for boswellia extract to arrive and see if that works for me. I can't take anti-inflammatories anymore because I'm now in stage 2 kidney failure. If the boswellia doesn't work, I'm destined for lots of pain until I finally expire. 😥😭
I've been taking thorne joint support nutrients with glucosamine and msm with curcumin, bromelain and boswellia but now will be buying thorne glucosamine & chondroitin and try that out. Haven't really noticed a difference with the support nutrients as I was just told I have mild arthur and ostio. I exercise regularly. 🙏🏽
From my own experience as a long distance cyclist, if I didn’t take it I can’t do the riding I like to do. I started in my 20s and now in my late 30s. My knees get way too sore if I don’t take it. I also have a shoulder problem and it seems to help with that a lot too.
The problem with these studies is no mention of dosages!!! What were the dosages taken & studied???