The 5 MYTHS About Wheel Spacers
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Here are the TOP 5 MYTHS about wheel spacers! We get questions on spacers CONSTANTLY, so we finally got around to making a video to cover some of the frequently asked questions. Ready to go wide? Head to www.customoffse...
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To address a bunch of the comments, when we say "eBay Spacers" we don't mean to classify ALL spacers on eBay in the same category. There are good brands out there, but this is just common terminology for cheaply made spacers that are often found on eBay or Amazon and made overseas. Bora spacers are made in the USA! www.customwheeloffset.com/store/?cat=Spacers
@@JohnDoe-bk4ci Yes we can! Follow the link, select your size, and let us know the specs! Spacers are custom made to order - www.customwheeloffset.com/store/?cat=Spacers
Custom Offsets hi can yall do a vedio on a 2 piece adapters? And how big can yall go with a 2 piece adapter?
What makes the cheap spacers shear off the studs & how do the Bora spacers work differently that prevents shearing?
Are supreme wheel spacer good quality?
Jafet Vera just make sure they’re hub centric and read the reviews
Can I get a thumbs up for the Chair Pulling Guy?
Chair pulling guy: "yanks the shit out the rope"
I was about to say who is the guy pulling the chair that was a cool idea
Totally agree
He'll yea
Chair pulling guy my fav part
I cant believe this video: no hours long talk and yet simpler! Got tears in my eyes man. Keep it up
I actually have never tied down by trq per pound, I’ve always tied down stuff as much as possible or when i feel them really tight and never had any problem on all the vehicle I’ve installed stuff or simply taken off the tire..but i guess everything works with common sense
It takes 10 seconds to torque a tire. Why not just do it.
Good info, good pace..
I run 2" on rear of my 1 ton dually. 10's of thousands of miles. Towing heavy a lot. Do it right and they won't fall off, break or get stolen.
boost lord Who in the fuck goes around stealing wheel spacers 😂
Anonymous Savior meaning nothing will happen to them. Sarcasm
Are your spacers between the two rear wheels, or between the inner wheel and axle hub? Rim rim spacer hub, or rim spacer rim hub?
Michael brown in between rear wheels. It's so you can run a wider tire and not rub sidewalls.
boost lord I gotcha. 👍
Should you apply anti-seize anywhere? and do you only re-torque the wheel?
Yes. Red thread lock works great
My question has always been “ do wheel spacers or highly offsetted wheels prematurely burn out wheel bearings”
I believe the Silverado / Sierra 1500 torque spec is 140 for all models since like 1999
I read online that it should be torqued to 95. Guess I’m going to do it again.
140 it says in most manuals for silverados
The question is: Which one carries the weight of the vehicle: the clamping force created by studs/nuts or the hub?
Eibach produces 25mm or 1 inch spacers without protruding lip for centering the wheel. The Eibach spacer is hub-centric but the wheel will be centered by lug nuts to the spacer.
I have searched online and find 50/50 people saying the hub carries the weight and others say the shear force carries the weight. I think it makes sense that the shear force created by the studs/nuts carry the weight and the hub is only to help out in centering the wheel to prevent vibrations. If the hub would carry the weight the wheel should be pressed very tightly to the hub which is not the case in any wheel since the removal of the wheel from the hub would require a special tool. Also if you think about that aftermarket wheels come with center bore plastic adapters. Would plastic actually withstand the load of the car?. OEM wheels come with the right CB to fit the hub because it would be stupid to put different CB than the hub if you produce both the vehicle and the wheel. Obviously it is desireable to have hub-centric spacer and wheel to help out with the centering of the wheel to prevent vibrations. As a conclusion the hub is just for centering the wheel not to carry weight. Thus it is called "Hub-centric".
Didn't know Ben Shapiro cared so much about wheels
Mark B bro...dead af
Oy vey shut it down
Best comment for sure, dude talks faster than even Ben does though.
Omg now i can't un-hear it 😂
Mark B...thats funny bro...
Either mumble or talk fast but please don't do both.
Exactly
😂😂😂nice one
Could you talk faster I can almost understand you.
Will do 😂
Thanks, bryan.
Idk if they had it a year ago but click the three dots and you can change the video speed
@@tylerpuff2662 wowwwww holy cow thanks 🤣🤣
Lol the whole video, I was like, "ten bucks he's got some poor intern pulling him around lol"
Nailed it! -Fuller
litewatefitr 2:23
Us poor interns
I don't know, I bought 2 inch spacers off eBay and haven't had any issues with them. Been running them for 8 years.
How about amazon spacers
I’ve had some for a year now, never re-tightened the tops, done 160mph+ multiple times, never vibrations, car drivers straight, never had a issue, doesn’t rust, just don’t get the cheapest eBay ones, I got billets
@@SanAntonioNewHomesForSale most important thing about wheel spacers is HUB CENTRIC. If they're not hub centric, don't even consider them.
Matthew Pincoski hub centric does nothing more than aid in installing and lining up wheel, when everything is tight the studs carry the load by clamping force. Cheap studs use bad metallurgy and will just snap, same goes for all cheap metal parts.
@@matthewpincoski785 yea the most important thing is good studs.
didn't you know, we rock it til the wheels fall off, man 😒
Been running spacers for 3 years on my M1 Abrams tank and launching it at the drag strip with all 6,000ft. lbs of torque from its 4 rotor wankle and never had a problem.
Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Can confirm. I was there.
Dorito power
1:37 Straight edge is not so straight
Doesn't know how to use a level. Flip it and use the bubble to get it plumb and then measure... wow.
@@24revealer you are assuming the truck is sitting on an absolutely level surface. Best way to measure with tires installed is to
1)chock front wheels and jack up the rear so both rear tires are just about off the ground, but not completely so they won't turn
2) use a long straight edge up against the entire tire (dead down the center of the tire) and measure to the fender
3) set the rear down and repeat for the front.
But doing this also assumes that your front fender and rear fenders are equal distances from the center line of your truck. Best method is to measure hub to hub, subtract the two and divide by 2...this will give you exact measurement for spacers if you are trying to space your rear wheels to equal the front. But this will increase your turning radius
@@benjaminberan7645 No, not assuming anything, he has no clue how to use a level.
They are like the guys on AutoZone ...if not on the computer doesn't exist...they don't even know what a caliper is ..
The 2" spacer question was pretty dumb. Lol. Great video man. You do talk a little fast though
I have put spacers for social distancing.
He's got the old 6.0 chair......getting towed everywhere
6.0 power stroke.... getting pulled by a junk yard 6 liter LS
My favorite thing when people talk about how dangerous wheel spacers and adapters are is when I point out and show them that they actually come on most medium duty semi trucks and most 1 ton 4x4 trucks and have since at least the 60s
Hi. GM tech here. The wheel torque for a 1500 is 140ft lbs not 120
Got eBay spacers replaced the studs and they are 6160 aluminum. Never broke
Read the first comment
I had 2 inch spacers on my tacoma back in the day, i did a lot of crazy shit in that truck and i never had an issue. Spacers arent bad; just buy quality stuff and torque your stuff properly
instructions that came with my Bora spacers said to use factory wheel torque....on a 2018 Silverado that number read in the manual 140ft lbs
I love the no chit chat approach. Also, I bought 2" spacers off Amazon for my ½ ton pickup with camper - no issues for 5 years now.
There is no such thing as an "eBay" anything. They aren't a manufacturer. They simply connect sellers with buyers. I hate this mistake. You can buy a Lamborghini on eBay. You can buy a Camry on eBay. Etc etc
Pollo, anyone who says "ebay lighting" or "ebay generic item" means, an ebay item, sold by an ebay only seller, with no name products. Yes, if you sell a Camry on ebay, it is still a camry. But when you by Sylvania light bulbs, vs "ebay bulbs" one doesn't have a name to them. Hopefully that clears that up
Used lighting as an example.
Custom Offsets
I guess I'd simply say "generic online no-name Chinese garbage" or something. 😊 Thanks for the reply. Good video.
I bought some cheap unbranded Ebay spacers for my Jeep Wrangler- went off roading pretty hard and they were just fine- then I got tboned from a car going 60 mph on the highway, And totaled my Jeep- the wheels and the spacers held up just fine through that accident too. So I guess it can be hit or miss on Ebay 🤷🏼♂️
Need new adapter for my old pickup truck international 1950 bolt pattern is 6x7"1/4 do you have something
There is so much wrong with this video! Never use wheel spacers in the first place and never "trim" your studs. This is why dumb kids should not be driving trucks or even worse pretending they are some kind of off road vehicle.
fucks with scrub radius and causes premature wear on all parts. That's a fact! When you cobble, you get cobbled results.
Ok so I’m going to do 2 inch spacers now. Just have to choose a company that’s got a good history with their products. Thanks guys. Years later your videos are still kicking knowledge to us truck lovers.
😅😅😅😅😅 0:34 😅 0:34 😅😅😅😅
Good vid. I like the sliding office chair thing!!
Did you install wheel spacers in your chair....it rolls sooo smooth 👍
Huge spacers are gross in every single way. Maybe safe but ugly as fuck
Good points, but the simple fact is, that the further you move the wheel from the hub, the more stress you’re putting on the first lugs, so it does become more dangerous, the wider you get...
1 inch isn't worth debating.
I guess no one has ever head about Steering Axis Inclination... Spacers ruin that angle for sure. And a spacer also extends the length between your rim flange and hub, obviously, which a longer length equals for leverage which means more stress on the hub.
I'd also add that if ruins your scrub radius as well
I've never like the thought of spacers for many reasons. In Ontario Canada they are actually outlawed now from idiot installation issues. (Wheels falling off)
I am just trying to find spacers that allow bigger tires on dually wheels. What should I be searching for specifically different than these kinds of spacers?
Send an email to sales@customoffsets.com and they should be able to help you figure out what would work best for dually setups with larger tires!
Just a tip, check your country's laws regarding spaces as here in Australia they are illegal.
Depends on the state
1:09 step 3 is definitely the step I came here to see and glad so I know what to order with out trimming
New shop looks 💯
in the late 90s every one got the stupid offset centerlines and 60 series tires and put them on there truck but that fad was over pretty quick when ball joints didnt last more than a set of tires ...........guess i was the only one paying attention
Proper maintenance is the biggest factor Gary! Also trucks have evolved heavily since then!
Custom Offsets id have to disagree vehicles still use ball joints however older vehicles had grease zerks so that they could be serviced newer trucks come from the factory un-greaseable. and a ball joint still on average enjoys about 125k life before it causes poor tire wear and should be replaced . the dynamics of spacers and extream offsets has not changed the further the inner most contact area of the tire is from the actual pivot point of the ball joint the further stress of the weight of the vehical acts on said ball joints one thing has changed then from now and that is the weight of trucks today a chevy 1/2 ton which. was most common back then has a base weight of about 4500 to 5000 lbs and most trucks today typically being diesel that receive these spacers and extream offsets weigh in at about 8500 to 9500lbs 3/4 tons
TheGarywilliams yep, I remember the 1/2 ton chevies with the "Lund" body kits and the centerlines. Also remember quite a few of them on the side of the road, wheel facedown from broken uppers lol.
Custom Offsets 3/4 ton chevies still use the exact same torsion bar setup they started using in 87. They'll have the exact same issues.
Wheel spacers so not change the geometry of your suspension so I just don't see how this could happen. Now if you want to say a lift kit can wear ball joints you would be on to something.
What about rough country spacers?
I wanna get spacers but I've heard from a couple mechanic friends good and bad things. One of them was trying to tell me how the studs on my truck, 01 ram 2500 are stronger no matter what and spacers are always going to fail because the stud is the weak part
As long as the spaces are a good brand they will be just as strong. I don't know about the US, but in Europe Eibach or H&R are the ones to get.
Fuck those 20” off-road wheels
I've had 1.5" wheel spacers on my last 3 trucks in the course of 10 years. I've gone mud bogging, baja-ing, bombing down dirt roads, and pretty much anything else u can do with a truck. Never had one problem with my spacers...and ppl still tell me they're unsafe. Mine aren't hub centric either, never have been.
Hahaha love the continuous pan with the chair… #entertainingvideography
I was going to put like 1" spacers on my S10 since they have a really narrow wheel base as anyone who has seen an S10 knows. Great video by the way
Wow what an awesome car to own!!
Recorded horizontally😀👍
Just took off 15mm spacers off the front of my G37. You wouldn't think a little over a inch total would make a difference but it does. The steering became noticeably heavier and the car didn't handle as well.
yeah, for some reason myNotEbayStuff company "forgot" to mention that putting on whatever spacer causing change in the whatever suspension geometry. Among many others scrub radius which affects steering of the car.
Putting on a spacer alone makes your car look cooler, not faster at corners.
Maybe if whateverIknowEverything were able to fine tune a suspension they would have somewhat more sophisticated tools ... than a straight edge :D
In colder climates. Drive 60 miles and retorque your spacers. Then put your wheels back on torque... drive 60 miles and retorque the wheels again. This is the only way to torque wheels with spacers. Lots can happen in 500 miles. Most would complain it's too much work to take all the wheels off but so is organizing a funeral.
Good overview, thanks for throwing in some numbers too!
Myth 6: that chair stops moving at some point
Hate lug centric. Love hub centric. Tried both. The vibrations on lug centric made me retire them quick.
Craigslist job's post: "chair pet walker"
I've always wondered what that was.....
Now I know - lol
I got cut off spun into a curb and snapped an axle still using the same spacers after i put in a whole new rear due to a tweaked housing tell me spacers are weak
Jake Browne damn. That's proof of quality.
Jake Browne what spacers to you have?
Probably a stupid question but will I have to get an alignment after wheel spacer installment
No such thing as a stupid question when youre learning. And that is a very commonly asked question, you should not need an alignment after installing wheel spacers.
I’m late but hopefully someone can answer my question, for the re-torque, are you re-torquing the spacer to the hub or the wheel to the spacer?
Do you have wheel spacers on your chair? Because your rolling sideways in your video and not tipping...
Hey need some help I just got 2" Boras for my 2013 3500 duramax dually my plans are to put spacer wheel spacer wheel in the rear please if anyone knows how much to torque it at 🤙🤙🤙
Boras come with spacers, but if you by chance didn't get 'em or lost them, email info@customoffsets.com and our team can gladly get you info on torque specs!
Adding spacers adjusts the wheel geometry and adds extra stress points to the suspension.
It's in no way different from wheels with low offset. But yes, that is still true even if it doesn't matter in most situations.
So does wider wheels.
So either way, you're still gonna have added stress on the same parts.
@@codyrockwood15 wider wheels do not adjust the geometry because the hub face is in the same location and no further leverage is added. Extra stress points are added on the opposite side of the spacers and are not present on wider wheels.
What bout added bearing stress is what im wondering
it will add some stress. but not the huge misconception of wheels destroying the bearing in a few months like alot of people think!
Custom Offsets this is why I love your company I’ve been wondering this for a while. Your videos are so helpful and your website is great and easy to use. I’m recommending you to all my friends and I can’t wait to but a set of wheels myself!
What size spacer could I use on a 20 by 9 Moto Metal wheel with a 0 offset running 35s on a leveled Ram. Don't want the wheels to stick out huge but would like a little bit more and not have to trim my lug nuts as well thanks
Custom Offsets does it add anymore stress then a higher offset wheel though?
I had to help a customer move his entire Corvette collection over 150 miles, one or more models of Vette from each redesign, so more then a dozen. I was driving a c3 that had spacers, then a wheel bearing gave out and the wheel passed me on the highway. Are you saying that not having the weight centered under the bearing is suddenly no longer a bad thing?
I mean go ahead use spacers and watch your wheel bearings disintegrate
The wheel spacers themselves arent exactly going to cause wheel bearings to wear out prematurely, its whatever you put on the end of the wheel bearing such as a stock wheel and tire or a 26x16. That makes a world of difference.
Great vids! Subbed! Got a question for you. I have a 2006 sequoia that I want to put 35" tires on. The factory wheel size is 17x7.5, and offset is +15mm, and most people have to run a 1.25" (or 31.75mm) spacer with factory wheels to make it work, but I really dont want tor un spacers. When buying new wheels, does that mean that I need to have an offset now of -16.75mm to make up for the spacers? looking at getting into 17x9 or 17x8.5. Any help is greatly appreciated!
@Ryan you a part time asshole or working your way through life as one?
Thanks bro 👍🏻👍🏻
Where could I find a good adapters not to expensive but has good quality
Custom Offsets, Ebay, Amazon, your favorite app or whatever....
Just make sure is a hubcentric spacer that fits or matches your hub and wheel specifications...if not, don't buy it !
Check out our Hubcentric spacers here!
customoffsets.com/spacers
@@CustomOffsetsTV
Yes, thanks... I looked around and yes! great materials good design and very well built.
Thank y'all for selling parts that keep drivers and passengers safe out there, while looking cool and having fun all at the same time.
Hubcentric the safest way to roll! 👍🏻💯
You’re not kidding man, cheap spacers are not your friend!!!!!!!!! I had a wheel fall off getting off the freeway. 3 of 5 lug bolts sheered off completely and the other 2 the threads were just rubbed smooth...scary shit, DON’T BUY CHEAP CAR PARTS!!!!!
2:23 his chair broke down and had to get towed lol
Just replaced hubs on a Jeep that had spacers before I got it. Had to force every hubs bolt through, with great difficulty and none of them had threads left . The torque/moment changes substantial withe the distance.
Now I'm about to add 1" spacers. Cause they're awesome
Do you have to re-torque wheel to spacer & spacer to hub every 500 miles?
Or do you just re-torque wheel to spacer?
We recommend Re-torquing about 50 miles or so after installation
Yes but do I have to re torque spacer to hub every 50 miles after installation?
Custom Offsets also I re torque wheel to spacer every 500 miles?
Guadalupe Ruiz no, just once at 500 miles after you put them on and drive
From what I know the e bay spacers are lug centric meaning the a corn lug nuts will center the spacer.the hub centric black spacer is ok but I would imagine it's for a wheel that needs to fit snug on axle hub to center it so that's why spacer has lip on it and also a wheel that uses lug nuts that are round like washers are the ones that definitely need hub centric spacers like the black one he was showing.I think each spacer will work fine no issues and serve it's purpose.the trick is to tighten them up very good to vehicles axle.this guy seems to be trying to sell his black spacer it's about the money and advertising..I use the e bay spacers on 2500 and 3500 chevy and pull 20-30k lbs and never had one give out.
Idk why you're calling them "ebay wheel spacers", ebay doesnt manufacture them... i buy alot of my stuff off ebay cus its cheaper, and have YET to have any problem with anything I've bought
Word of advice from someone who installs spacers on a regular basis. Use blue locktite on your lugs from the spacer to the hub. This will keep the lugs from coming loose over time.
It helps. But you should not have to use loctite on them if you are torquing and re-torquing them correctly
@@CustomOffsetsTV Why torque 2x when you can loctite once?
Hello I am putting 17” Raptor wheels on my 2019 F150 do you know if I will need spacers? If so how large. I want the wheels to be flush with the fender w/flares.
I am looking at purchasing 3 inch spacers to make my f350 dually turn like a f450 dually. 1. will it work with stock tires and is it hard on my wheel bearings? Also do I need to purchased aluminum or steel. I tow a heavy 3 axle fifth wheel toy hauler
I have a 14’ Chevy Silverado with 3” level lift up front and 2” rear blocks I got 20x12 -44 with 285/50 street tires but I’m gonna be running 275/45/20 All Terrains over my 20x12s cuz I want a stretched look. So my question is can I run 2” spacers without rubbing..??
How about just buying rims with the correct offset so you dont get death wobble. Myth bust that! Do not use spacers on the front of a daily driver. Ever!
Well, for many cars that just isn't the reality. So unless you can spend some big money on custom wheels, you pretty much will need spacers.
I’ve been running 2 inch spacers from eBay for five years now absolutely agree with installing them correctly with the correct Lugnuts my Ford uses flat base Lugnuts from stock you have to use acorn The spacer has a taper and so does my wheel. Do not over torque! If you don’t trust the studs replaced them
Question on use of red locktite on studs holding spacer to hub. They recommend 90 foot pounds for my 3/4 ton because it’s a wet torque using thread locker. What are your thoughts?
Hey man I got a 85 bronco with five lug ttb an wanna change my rig to a six lug what's best idea to also be able to keep the ttb
I'll stick with steel spacers and adapters. Aluminum is just not good enough for me.
Problem is they don’t have any Bora spacers to fit a new ram 2500! Fact is I have waited 30 days now and got updated 2.5 weeks maybe. Great job custom offsets anybody know where I can get some?
How do they hold up on pickups that spend a way above average amount of time on rough dirt roads?
Mines have held up 6.5years and still running strong, been through mud sand and floods most of its time
The same physics hold your spacers on your hub that hold a wheel on the hub. There's no difference.
Will hold up fine but with spacers and offsets your wheel bearings will wear 5x faster than normal
Jake Garzo That’s what I figure I bet they have no issues as a daily commuter but I put 15k 20k a year on rough dirt roads and I can’t see how they wouldn’t cause issues.
Definitley will cause extra wear. Don't know about 5x.
Maybe explain to folks what "hub centric" means. Yes, I already know, but others may not, and buy the wrong spacers.
We touch on that in some of our other spacer videos!
@@CustomOffsetsTV Great! Thanks for the informative video.
These bora wheel spacers are American made and very good quality,,, however!! If you plan on ordering them through the custom offset website ,.....DONT!!! They can’t help you with technical questions and will spend months feeding you BS about why their not at your house yet. Order these spacers directly from Bora and cut out the ignorant sales people at C.O.! My money will never go to them again.
anyone with a 2023 Trailboss LT all stock with 20 inch tires, if so what size spacers should i use that wont rub 1.5 or 2
Thank You
Hi, need urgent help. I bought good 2 inch spacers from ebay but found out later that my studs originally installed by Toyota are not long enough thus couldn’t install 2 inch spacers. Ordered 1.5inches spacers, tried to install, it didnt work. Checked on ebay/amazon long studs, found something, bought it but when it reached here, the studs were same as oem size. Hell sick from this. Since weeks I am searching on internet long/extended wheel studs, but no luck. Do you know any where on ebay or amazon who sell extended studs for tundra 2012?
Huh centric eBay spacers.... $35 & $55 bucks per pair, been running them on my 525whp 02 trans am for 4 years and my 95 m112 supercgarched sc400 which i drift hard on at least 20 events a year for the past 3 years. Zero issues - but hey I'm just a regular nobody I guess get the ones these guys sell because I'm sure they have no $$$ agenda behind their dealership agreement with "Bora" spacers!!!
Chevy already burn through wheel bearings, now you're going to add spacers.... I give it 15k. On the other hand 700$ every 15k miles is a small price to pay to look like a badass😎
They talk about wear and tear on suspension components and bearings. WHen using a 2" spacer with a stock wheel ( not a huge negative offset) what kind of wear and tear are we talking. Bearings or other components will last 100k miles vs 200k miles. They always talk about wear and tear but give no context as to what we might see
The only real problems with spacers are what it does to your paint. Even with mud flaps the wheels fling road grime all over the side of the truck.
How much should I torque a wheel spacers for my 2019 ranger?
I just bought a 2007 Jeep Liberty...paid a good price for it...will a one and a half wheel spacer hurt bearings or much of anything? I am NOT going off road nor planning on racing. Just a daily ride in the snow. Mostly for looks
500 miles for a re-torque is overkill. 5-10 miles would likely work better and eliminate any immediate loosening of the wheels and spacers. Any alloy wheel needs to be re-torqued after removal and reinstallation. Incorrectly torqued wheels is the single greatest cause of brake rotor warping.
Heres a myth 6061 aluminum is good! Its actually the cheapest most commonly used aluminum that is the least strong of the modernly excepted and used aluminum. 2024 and 7075 would be much better but steel being the best. Guys say silly stuff like its aero space or military grade aluminum the same could be said about anything the military uses. Its just normal aluminum.
Can you Talk a little faster introducing your Company's name? Slow down... Cant understand what your saying..
So your spacers will work up to a point they will fail with on a high power car or truck.700 plus HP.Secondly they will fail if to large of a wheel assy is used and stud size is not increased and used for 4 wheeling.I have had to do on the spot repairs on vehicles in the MUD to many times or tow jobs to many times.
Why don't you just buy the correct wheels the first time. Double the nits double the risk. How many people do you know that actually properly torque their Lug nuts. If you can't find a wheel company that can't find the correct wheel for your car then don't do it.