Cheating in Competitive TF2 Leagues

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @SolarLight
    @SolarLight  Рік тому +1895

    Update: The demo record/stop bug was fixed in the 8/13/24 update. Also, the 100 player Medieval server isn't being hosted anymore, but maybe I can bring it back some time.

    • @youngthinker1
      @youngthinker1 Рік тому +28

      100 Melee mode is the new best mode

    • @_dinnerbox
      @_dinnerbox Рік тому +25

      Imagine just 50 Demoknights which is commanding by Solar and Fat magic commanding 50 snipers using Huntsman xD, wait right?

    • @jasonbrody6837
      @jasonbrody6837 Рік тому +1

      Make wummer update video!!!

    • @mroostache
      @mroostache Рік тому +1

      YES

    • @Technobridger
      @Technobridger Рік тому

      M

  • @JackScavs
    @JackScavs Рік тому +6721

    Now I don't have to blame myself for being a bad spy and just assume everyone else is cheating

    • @loverofstars5676
      @loverofstars5676 Рік тому +244

      ya man should've just stopped your opponent from abusing cheats L spy get good

    • @O5MO
      @O5MO Рік тому +124

      But in all seriousness, Crit and Minicrit particles dont disappear for a while even if you are cloaked. If you have been healed by an enemy vaccinator, the icon above your head may persist until you switch classes, and in general a lot of effects in a non modified game can show your position. Not to mention spawning wallhacks, but those are disabled in competitive.

    • @eliescobis9922
      @eliescobis9922 Рік тому +18

      let's be real everyone in this game cheats regardless so better safe than sorry

    • @yourdemiseishere
      @yourdemiseishere Рік тому +1

      Just hold out your knife.

    • @munchythetf2fan
      @munchythetf2fan Рік тому +10

      @@O5MO it once happened to me with the vaccinator thing an enemy spy just kept dying to me cuz of that bug, its kinda sad but funny at the same time

  • @Mcskill
    @Mcskill Рік тому +2729

    Back on etf2l we had a really stupid strat. Run a heavy and spy disguised as friendly heavy, then while the other team is typing about us breaking the rules you just win the push 😂

    • @danielbailey2937
      @danielbailey2937 Рік тому +453

      this is such a gigabrain play haha

    • @DISCONSOLATION
      @DISCONSOLATION Рік тому +72

      lmfaoooooo

    • @evanever
      @evanever Рік тому +51

      that's awesome

    •  Рік тому +47

      Gold gameplay.

    • @Labyrinth6000
      @Labyrinth6000 Рік тому +21

      Could you explain this further? How was it a strategy

  • @ElliotKingStuff
    @ElliotKingStuff Рік тому +2925

    This video has taught so many people how to cheat in a pseudo-legitimate way. On one hand, that'll hopefully result in fixes, on the other hand the game is gonna be wacky as all hell for those who choose to abuse it

    • @theowainwright7406
      @theowainwright7406 Рік тому +298

      Ahahahahahahahah ‘hopefully this results in fixes’. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

    • @apple-de8tx
      @apple-de8tx Рік тому +160

      I remember delfy used to get shit on for spreading map exploits lol

    • @PlagueDoctor-87
      @PlagueDoctor-87 Рік тому +126

      I'm here for the Banana explosion effect. That sh*t is hilarious

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 Рік тому +157

      Valve has had a strange pattern of fixing problems a bit after Shounic highlights them in a video, so hopefully that pattern extends to this.

    • @kuba4ful
      @kuba4ful Рік тому +27

      On the other hand it actually made me interested in getting some particle mods, like the banana one showed in the video lmao

  • @ninthfloor
    @ninthfloor Рік тому +602

    i remember back in, like, the early 2010s there was this one guy on tftv/ugc who was absolutely 1000% convinced one of the best snipers in highlander was cheating. like constantly accused them of it with increasingly shoddy reasoning. this eventually expanded to him accusing so many snipers of cheating that people felt bad for the people that *weren't* accused lol

    • @antusFireNova
      @antusFireNova Рік тому +70

      If you get accused of cheating while you weren't, in a way it's a compliment

    • @lPuffalo
      @lPuffalo Рік тому +5

      Are you referring to Axiomatic?

    • @jewels3846
      @jewels3846 Рік тому +30

      ​​@@antusFireNovait is such an ego boost 😂
      Especially since im mid-tier to trash in most competitive modes

    • @Hildreth1101
      @Hildreth1101 11 місяців тому +2

      M4risa? I remember

    • @korhol2065
      @korhol2065 4 місяці тому

      I honestly just blame the design of the sniper more than anything

  • @bernardmontgomery8645
    @bernardmontgomery8645 Рік тому +774

    Fun fact:
    At 1:19 in the list of "cheaters" banned by the Anti-Cheat team there is at least one non-cheating player. That player is the guy in last place - fidus. He got banned circa a month ago for WH and as proof there is a SINGLE clip that could be summarised as:
    The map is KOTH Viaduct. There are 4 people in the clip, our "cheater" (pyro), his medic and heavy and the accuser (enemy spy). Spy is on top of the sniper cliff with the remaining three bellow it. They have no idea spy is there. Pyro is looking slightly up checking the ridge of the cliff, he sees nothing so he turns around to spycheck. There is noone behind him so he turns back to see the accuser disguised as a teammate jumping from the cliff towards our pyro (not to the health pack, rather directly at pyro's head while turning mid air). As anyone would do he presses M1, then he panic airblasts the spy into his own medic. The medic gets stabbed and spy runs away. End of the clip.
    One more note, the clip itself was recorded while inspecting the replay and we can hear audio of poeple inspecting it, we havetwo guys there the accuser and the Anti-Cheat team member. And I ALMOST feel sorry for the poor guy, cause the accuser is screaming into his ear that this is "ONE HUNDRED % PROOF THAT PYRO HAS WH! THERE IS NO WAY HE KNEW I WAS THERE! HOW DID HE KNOW IT WAS ME! HE HAS WALLS!" (you know the classic lines).
    As I said I almost felt bad for the admin. But like c'mon you're supposed to be good at spotting cheaters. First there was nothing wrong with the clip and second a single clip like this is nowhere near enough evidence to ban someone.
    Anyways thanks for reading all of this. I'm not trying to say that all banned people are innocent, just that banned does not mean 100% guilty. After all the ETF2L admins are just normal people like us. And everyone makes mistakes.

    • @Starlit_Juno
      @Starlit_Juno Рік тому +45

      I ain't reading allat
      I'm happy for you
      Or sorry that it happened

    • @maxhadanidea
      @maxhadanidea Рік тому +271

      @@Starlit_Juno why did you even reply then

    • @diming7616
      @diming7616 Рік тому +215

      @@Starlit_Juno I hope this notification 3 months later slightly annoys you

    • @Stewie_eating_Heisenburger
      @Stewie_eating_Heisenburger Рік тому +6

      ​@@maxhadanideaLike he said, he ain't reading allat

    • @simonnachreiner8380
      @simonnachreiner8380 Рік тому +141

      I’m always sused out when a spy calls cheats. Like dude you’re playing spy sometimes you just get fucked.

  • @TheDormantP
    @TheDormantP Рік тому +108

    Im sorry but this 13:14 part of the video had me dying. My humour is so broken for laughing at the spy radiating fart shockwaves with the fart sound effect

    • @menofmayhemmm
      @menofmayhemmm 7 місяців тому +4

      the Banned sticker is also cherry on the top.

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 Рік тому +1168

    Does feel crazy that even the highly skilled players would go down that road of cheating that I’m not surprised that some people get accused of hacking because of this

    • @MrDarkcrap
      @MrDarkcrap Рік тому +28

      Bruh do you even sleep

    • @Bnvnu
      @Bnvnu Рік тому +89

      it's in fact more likely the more skilled you are, at some point you get frustated by the time it takes to make a miniscule gain, that almost becomes based on chance, so you cheat

    • @The-Random-fool1697
      @The-Random-fool1697 Рік тому +3

      “Crazy I was cr-“ nuh hu get out of my head

    • @tav_ish
      @tav_ish Рік тому +1

      hello good sir.

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 Рік тому +49

      @@Bnvnu "speedrunners don't cheat to get a fast run, they cheat to get a fast run faster"

  • @TheDandyChap
    @TheDandyChap Рік тому +386

    Wow, this takes me back. I used to be a bug hunter on TF2 near to the game's launch because I had experience modding source engine games from CS:S. I found a lot of these issues and pointed them out to Valve hoping they would update either the game *or* their engine, under the assumption that they would still make competitive games in Source, and god forbid they be inherited into Source 2. Instead, I equipped a bunch of cheaters with easily executed and unbannable cheats. :(
    Excellent deep dive though! Great video. :)

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 Рік тому +45

      You were inadvertently the villain while trying to be the hero.

    • @simonnachreiner8380
      @simonnachreiner8380 Рік тому +44

      This is a joke and I’m just taking the piss. That out of the way.
      “Nice job Oppenheimer, I’ll see you in hell”

    • @TheDandyChap
      @TheDandyChap Рік тому

      @@simonnachreiner8380 Lmao. I would have felt worse if people hadn't already discovered "$nocash" placed in the game's .vmt (material) files renders objects and players through walls (an exploit that was always known on the Source engine, even before TF2, so NO clue why it was never patched), but at least that problem was correctable with the sv_pure setting. For some reason cheaters focused on making injections to bypass sv_pure instead of doing the thing that took even less effort and brainpower, which was modifying other folders. Still, a pox on my house, I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @FenexDragonis
      @FenexDragonis Рік тому +14

      Valve just hopes someone like you or me eventually gets sick of their apathy and creates the fix for them..
      Funny thing is, fixes exist for many exploitable issues, but the creators refuse to submit them to valve, out of protest of what they have turned the game into over the last decade

    • @MatiasMaldona3
      @MatiasMaldona3 Рік тому +8

      Like the guy who created dynamite to help miners yet made a killer weapon lol

  • @indecency7631
    @indecency7631 Рік тому +512

    did not expect to see my crosshair get clowned at 11:33, ITS GOOD OKAY

  • @ShayyTV
    @ShayyTV Рік тому +140

    8:03 oh my god this got a great laugh out of me
    great video as always! your editing has only gotten better and better

    • @vastunliking3817
      @vastunliking3817 Рік тому +2

      oh hi shayy

    • @absoultethings4213
      @absoultethings4213 Рік тому +2

      since you already did undertale while cheating, do undertale as a demoknight

    • @mikubrot
      @mikubrot Рік тому

      shayy undertale???

    • @cewla3348
      @cewla3348 6 місяців тому

      is that the real shayy nutdealer? no way, hes gonna deal my nuts!

    • @Stefan2010a
      @Stefan2010a 4 місяці тому

      Shayy sans Shayy sans Shayy sans Shayy sans Shayy sans Shayy sans

  • @crackdog1914
    @crackdog1914 Рік тому +297

    I just wanna say, thank you for the amazing subtitles! I love how there are different words in bold, italic and in different colors. Makes the video feel like you put even *more* effort into it.

    • @lunarrity
      @lunarrity Рік тому +10

      really, it was helpful to just read instead of following the words when i'm in bed, eating, or just dont feel like listening

    • @patrlim
      @patrlim Рік тому +1

      i thought they were baked into the video, theyre actually youtube's subtitles

    • @blondeepartygirl
      @blondeepartygirl Рік тому

      It helped me a lot im actually blind but it made me read better

    • @finmin2k
      @finmin2k Рік тому +2

      @@patrlim no they are not, these are so very clearly custom made ones

    • @patrlim
      @patrlim Рік тому +1

      @@finmin2k what I meant was they are made using UA-cam's subtitle tools.

  • @sleepy1066
    @sleepy1066 Рік тому +415

    Ive talked to quite a few competitive players who ended up closet cheating, usually its because of this one major reason, and i quote one of them : *"after a certain point you become so good that you barely see any improvements anymore which really demotivated me because i thought i was never gonna get better"*
    Its basically like muscle growth when you start going to the gym or doing sports, first year or two you see alot of progress but as you continue to improve you start seeing it less and less, which to someone who enjoyed seeing rapid improvement can be mentally draining, so they tend to go to a more "darker" route, whether in tf2 with cheating or steroids in the gym.
    *this does not however excuse cheating in any shape or form*

    • @thataintfalco7106
      @thataintfalco7106 Рік тому +38

      Imagine feeling that insecure

    • @zerefoex
      @zerefoex Рік тому +6

      "Darker route" BAHAHAHAHAH YOU ARE A CIVILIAN!

    • @sleepy1066
      @sleepy1066 Рік тому +46

      @@zerefoex you good bro?

    • @zerefoex
      @zerefoex Рік тому +1

      @@sleepy1066 ye u civi. I am a marine you subhuman.

    • @SioxerNikita
      @SioxerNikita Рік тому +33

      @@thataintfalco7106 Feeling that insecure?
      Imagine that most people are quite insecure in their life, but you still always have room for improvement... you are now at the top of your game, you wont really be better... that sucks...

  • @crimsonray9414
    @crimsonray9414 Рік тому +513

    An Uncle Dane and SolarLight video in the same day, must be Christmas

    • @RickTests
      @RickTests Рік тому +1

      indeed

    • @Innuya
      @Innuya Рік тому +10

      And both videos in non-standard formats!

    • @Renorick1
      @Renorick1 Рік тому +10

      "It's like Christmas mornin'."

    • @alex.g7317
      @alex.g7317 Рік тому +3

      Or Smissmas

    • @RedshirtAfficionado
      @RedshirtAfficionado Рік тому +5

      Uncle dane did an unboxing video. I would hardly call that contemt

  • @BlackHole22410
    @BlackHole22410 Рік тому +22

    I need more videos of people explaining to me the rules of tf2 comp like this, this was way too comforting to watch.
    Danke mate.

  • @Casual_PKBeats
    @Casual_PKBeats Рік тому +47

    Ever since I heard about ETF2L banning the market gardener and loch n load I've been kinda put off by them LOL, but this is a really interesting video, it's great to hear about these types of rules that you don't see often. The sniper one was a new one for me, too! I don't have too much experience in competitive, but it's nice to see a lot of things like this explained. Lord knows third party competitive could use more videos on it in general. Great vid!

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter Рік тому +11

      @@BloneJ it's such a good ban reason, both of these bans are EU exclusive. oh did u know eu has the lowest level of 6s when looking at the highest level? they get owned by all other regions. but yeah their choice to ban the MG and lnl is obviously the right move... 🤡

    • @ryvn_ryvn_18
      @ryvn_ryvn_18 Рік тому +1

      @@BloneJ loch n load allows demo to pipe shit from really far away (such as the enemy medic) and in very non committal positions which makes it really annoying. the reduced clip and lack of rollers are definitely downsides but the fact that it's less enjoyable to play against is enough for eu to ban stuff. but i'd say that the case for banning/unbanning the mg and loch are both really divisive esp since rgl allows both weapons still

    • @largin386
      @largin386 Рік тому +3

      @@ryvn_ryvn_18 why is the direct hit ok then?

    • @ryvn_ryvn_18
      @ryvn_ryvn_18 Рік тому

      @@largin386 direct hit requires more skill to use and you lose splash damage, which is essential to soldier's kit. you need to hit a direct when you use pipes anyway so it doesn't change much when it comes to the loch

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 Рік тому +13

      ​@@BloneJWow that's broken, it would be REALLY broken if there was a entire class that could do that at any range, every second while being on the opposite side of the map.

  • @bonafikam
    @bonafikam Рік тому +1437

    Every day third party comp gets mentioned is a good day

    • @TFNCP
      @TFNCP Рік тому +27

      third party comp is a cesspool

    • @ozone_au
      @ozone_au Рік тому +43

      @@TFNCP not really tbh

    • @lilthreadd
      @lilthreadd Рік тому +19

      @@ozone_au tf2center is horrible but everything else is quite good

    • @phuroon
      @phuroon Рік тому +3

      @@lilthreadd if u r from eu and que into zack lobby thats where shit gets rough

    • @TFNCP
      @TFNCP Рік тому

      @@ozone_au you're au right? ozfortress fucking sucks

  • @acee555
    @acee555 Рік тому +24

    Great video, I absolutely love the custom captions. Such love, effort, and creativity put into a thing no one will ever see. Thank you!

  • @SyToX
    @SyToX Рік тому +65

    I always suspected that people modified the decloak sound, but never bothered to look it up if it was possible. Some people do a sudden 180 even if you decloak a mile away from them, during a chaotic team battle, and some snap a 180 as you're approaching them.

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 Рік тому +24

      That is normal if the spy is active
      Players memorize the time it takes for the spy to arrive from spawn, and once it could be possibly around they start checking often

    • @rainchopper898
      @rainchopper898 Рік тому +1

      Same feels here.

    • @Red_Star_robin
      @Red_Star_robin 11 місяців тому +3

      There is also a script that turns you 180 pulls out your melee and holds down mouse one and when you impress it it snaps you back to where you where looking

  • @RoundusMongus
    @RoundusMongus Рік тому +97

    6:53 This can also be done without the exploit by using an infinitely looping taunt.

    • @twpsyn
      @twpsyn Рік тому +26

      which is why most of them are also banned on comp item whitelists too

    • @AnAshenSpirit
      @AnAshenSpirit Рік тому +16

      @@twpsyn they are banned cause you can see around walls in third person which makes them objectively pay to win this is a niche application

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, even SoundSmith brings it up

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@twpsyn To be honest, it's kinda stupid over the Beggar's Bazooka exploit, because that honestly jidt serves as another way to force comp players into running extremely specific weapon loadouts (namely, stock rocket launcher for Soldier)

  • @theclown2257
    @theclown2257 Рік тому +21

    If you use the box trot taunt the bots have a harder time killing you. Fitting that metal gear taunt helps you sneak around them.

  • @tappajaav
    @tappajaav Рік тому +18

    Nice showcase.
    Hilarious how large advantages can be gained through editing the TF2 files

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter Рік тому +3

      yeah really 'funny' how casual will be full of ppl with game modifications, record demoname; stop binds and all of these other ways to cheat for free

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Рік тому

      @@tf_lecter First of all you're overestimating how many players actually want to spend the effort to get ahead others
      - and second, yes, it is HILARIOUS that the developers allow so much purely through customization.

  • @SkeleGamer102
    @SkeleGamer102 2 місяці тому +3

    11:10 gave me a really stupid idea; TF2, but the heavy is crippled and needs another player to push him around while he's in a wheelchair.

    • @agent0931
      @agent0931 Місяць тому +1

      tf2 but heavy is payload

  • @Bossatron9000
    @Bossatron9000 Рік тому +34

    As a spy main i felt my soul leave my body during this section 12:59

  • @mixamasl
    @mixamasl Рік тому +39

    0:06 That transition.🤣

  • @Fatmagic
    @Fatmagic Рік тому +22

    1:21 lmaooo I bumped into that imperator guy a bunch a few years back and he got sooo damn salty at my presence every single time even if I was barely doing anything. I was able to keep up to him as Sniper too so if he was cheating then, then that is a fucking RIP haha

    • @PenguinBoi27
      @PenguinBoi27 21 день тому

      Fatmagic with no comments is wild

  • @Travingel
    @Travingel Рік тому +8

    the ipad exploit is a bit hilarious, but mostly because i see it used in friendly servers or vs hale.
    but i would be miffed to see it in an actual match to hide information that would help me estimate and predict someones next action.
    great video!

  • @LuckyAceCard
    @LuckyAceCard Рік тому +40

    Kind of related, but I honestly have developed such huge trust issues with gaming now when it comes to cheating. Over the past 5 years, a solid 30-40 % of my friends ended up cheating in some way in games whether its through clients, ghosting, etc. I don’t understand it at all and I hate it.

    • @Dap1ssmonk
      @Dap1ssmonk 8 місяців тому +3

      Sounds like you jsut have bad taste in friends. I think I’ve had one “friend” ever cheat and he wasn’t even a friend, jsut a guy we traded with who turned out to be cheating when we tried to get him in the group.

  • @JKDontJudgeMe
    @JKDontJudgeMe Рік тому +5

    12:34
    "These explosion mods are actually pretty cool"
    Yes, sir. The Michael Bay Mod is still my favorite. ;)

  • @lemon4538
    @lemon4538 5 місяців тому +4

    Whoever did the subtitles, you did a phenominal job! i hope your work gets more appreciation.

    • @orangeaurora
      @orangeaurora 3 місяці тому +1

      solar does them himself actually!

    • @Grayson-tk5hn
      @Grayson-tk5hn 2 місяці тому

      the subtitles are great

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 Рік тому +179

    i'm gonna be honest, I think Phlog cancelling should count as tech rather than cheating. I know it's not a popular sentiment since everyone kinda hates the phlog but in a competitive environment I think it's a cool edge to a weapon that'd only really come out in hyper aggressive situations.

    • @EzekiesAcheron
      @EzekiesAcheron Рік тому +41

      Yeah most of these aren't really cheating, just a creative use of game mechanics.
      (Obviously the shit like editing game files is cheating. I just mean like the upward resupply through walls thing.)

    • @FletcherGoo
      @FletcherGoo Рік тому +15

      ​@@EzekiesAcheronMechanics implies its intentional. Abusing a bug is accurate.

    • @spectacledman
      @spectacledman Рік тому +11

      @@FletcherGoothis is not a bug; the game is behaving exactly as it is supposed to in this circumstance.

    • @Bean41
      @Bean41 Рік тому +36

      @@spectacledman
      I’d tend to call this an exploit, though kinda agree that it should be allowed because the Pyro must
      A: Deal 300 fire damage
      B: Get into a position above an enemy player or use the Thermal Thruster to get onto a part of map geometry (if there’s any on the map)
      If the Pyro uses the Thruster then they must deal 300 damage without a damaging secondary and if they use a flare gun then they must get above the enemy with positioning or a Det jump, both of which will likely just result in death. Lets be honest if a Pyro pull off a successful cancel the enemy team probably wasn’t paying attention and will get punished accordingly.

    • @asadi145
      @asadi145 Рік тому

      ​@@Bean41respond to my comment with "no you 😎" to say that your gay

  • @leoergen766
    @leoergen766 Рік тому +9

    3:41 this is beyond spaghetti, this is fettuccini.

  • @miltaire3235
    @miltaire3235 Рік тому +35

    I remember over half a decade ago I had some of those exploit mods as a kid. One that removed the scope model from the sniper along with the black area when scoped in and another that replaced the spy decloak with the "surprise buttsecks" meme. Hell my entire game was almost unrecognizable because of the many skin mods I had from gamebanana.
    It didn't seem like much at the time, but that extra information was actually so OP. The spy decloak in particular because out of nowhere you'd just hear that stupid meme in the background alerting you of where the spy was.

    • @Kewertate
      @Kewertate Рік тому +4

      Casually playing the game
      "Surprise buttsecks!"
      Turns around and kills spy because of a shitpost

  • @heyitsmeobama4335
    @heyitsmeobama4335 Рік тому +2

    Solid ass video, especially since I’m not a TF2 player, but I find the overall game and community very interesting.
    Also wanted to compliment the closed captions- it’s ABUNDANTLY clear you put in a lot of effort, the highlighted words and different colors and the opacity being toggled between certain shots, so no important info is blocked.
    I think you’re one of, if not the only, UA-camr I’ve seen fully utilize the captions like this. Small details but very impressive and respectable.

  • @asckey
    @asckey Рік тому +23

    I think whenever the player count spikes up, it's generally a good thing because that gives a lesser chance that a new player sees bots, and quits the game right then and there.

    • @cewla3348
      @cewla3348 6 місяців тому

      how wrong you were lmao

    • @Stefan2010a
      @Stefan2010a 4 місяці тому

      @@cewla3348 oh how wrong YOU were

  • @puzzlepuddles6712
    @puzzlepuddles6712 Рік тому +10

    11:31 one of the most iconic screams in tf2 competitive

  • @DeletedTaters001
    @DeletedTaters001 Рік тому +88

    10:14 honestly though, this is just geometry.
    What if you crouch peek an angle? This one seems really easy to do accidentally.
    Good to see RGL is smart enough to realize this.

    • @autocorrect5456
      @autocorrect5456 Рік тому +12

      when people are corner sniping it's very clearly intentional and it forces the other sniper to peek with a charge. sniper is garbage and should be banned anyways because highlander overemphasizes the class way too much. btw rgl allows rampant cheating anyway. extremely blatant aimbots and the sort that go unpunished, but if you say a bad meanie word then you're done.

    • @Leeloo-Foxx
      @Leeloo-Foxx 5 місяців тому +1

      you dont just accidentally set yourself up into a spot that hides your head.

    • @korhol2065
      @korhol2065 4 місяці тому

      @@autocorrect5456if they banned sniper that would put many pros off of comp, and that wouldn’t be good for anyone

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 місяці тому

      @@korhol2065 Lol. Let's be real, Sniper being banned would be perfectly appreciated. Remember, he can kill anyone, at any range, at any time, anywhere on the map, in one shot

  • @Bone_Incidents
    @Bone_Incidents Рік тому +4

    Now I can set the spy decloak sound to the Fallout 3 version of the Mysterious Stranger appearing sound.

  • @SpinosaurusStudios_
    @SpinosaurusStudios_ Рік тому +18

    11:04 you made the mod get taken down, why solar why

    • @AAAsFr
      @AAAsFr 8 місяців тому +3

      Is there any archive or any alternative way to install it? Asking for a friend

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 Рік тому +76

    I didn't really get why skilled players would take up cheating, just to see what it was like, whatever. But now that i see how easy it is to do some of these to gain a slight edge i get it. Just isn't worth having that label above your head if you get caught.

    • @admiraltonydawning3847
      @admiraltonydawning3847 Рік тому +12

      They get frustrated at not being able to pull something off despite being already skilled, so they shortcut.

    • @tomp-f9543
      @tomp-f9543 Рік тому +5

      They also do it because they feel pressured by team members / viewers to perform well

    • @jty9631
      @jty9631 Рік тому +3

      It really isnt easy to cheat in leagues, skilled players can see it easily. Bans get served liberally.

    • @ilmel1381
      @ilmel1381 11 місяців тому

      The answer is obvious, I will personally answer for myself 1:20 (ilmel), I got tired of the game and started resorting to third-party software, outside of official matches I just played and enjoyed the process, no more than I got a lock - a kind of vacation for several years to clear my head of junk and burnout.

  • @maxie3022
    @maxie3022 Рік тому +20

    the retry thing got banned because people started using it to just go back to spawn when too many people would chase you behind in pugs 🔥

    • @maxie3022
      @maxie3022 Рік тому +5

      It spread to scrims after as well

  • @Breadn
    @Breadn Рік тому +57

    thank you demoknight guy for niche cheating scenarios tutorial

  • @SkyTied
    @SkyTied Рік тому +9

    Even as someone who's pretty much never played this game in my life this video was super interesting, keep it up dude!

    • @iminumst7827
      @iminumst7827 Рік тому +1

      play the game more :)

    • @SkyTied
      @SkyTied Рік тому

      @@iminumst7827 I should definitely

  • @CobaltIngot
    @CobaltIngot Рік тому +82

    Wonderful video! Really love the editing, pacing, visuals, etc on this one.
    Although I'd like to say that the majority of community fixes don't get added because they either:
    -don't actually have any code, it's just a suggestion/concept
    -the code is not their own
    -the code is not well written
    -the code may cause regression bugs AKA, bugs caused by fixing another bug, which is rather common for TF2

  • @brennencramer2497
    @brennencramer2497 Рік тому +1

    Just wanted to comment for "engagement" and to thank you for the work you did on the subtitles. I am not hard of hearing, but some people put fun stuff in there and you most certainly did.

  • @crazycactus729
    @crazycactus729 Місяць тому +3

    14:41 he really did it the bots got snaped

  • @Myahster
    @Myahster Рік тому +5

    And it's because of this that people are learning how to update their mods to work on casual servers.
    It's actually pretty cool

  • @alface935
    @alface935 Рік тому +9

    13:30 That was a Jumpscare of a Joke

  • @sgas
    @sgas Рік тому +1

    I so appreciate the caption edits and captioning everything

  • @blubberking100
    @blubberking100 Рік тому +6

    For the sniper part, You can still hit the head hitbox but it becomes extremely thin. Basicly if they are able to still hit you, you can still hit them, its just a much harder shot.

  • @FurryNonsense
    @FurryNonsense 6 місяців тому +1

    13:30
    As a 2,000 hour Spy main, I can confirm that it do be like this

  • @arcadiatf2
    @arcadiatf2 Рік тому +8

    great video! happy to answer your questions 😀

  • @Hildreth1101
    @Hildreth1101 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazes me to see Comp TF2 still going over 15 years since it began, it isn't as strong a scene but there were legendary moments and great memories, this video also reflects how hard it is to be a moderator, specifically a Senior one / Anti-cheat one, some accuse them of being fairly strict but I do think it is necessary for the integrity of the game.

  • @scuot666
    @scuot666 Рік тому +23

    13:11 best part😂

  • @V1ultrakillomg
    @V1ultrakillomg 10 місяців тому +2

    i like how he changes the color of subtitles and moves them around

  • @Kris-2
    @Kris-2 Рік тому +9

    Thanks for showing everyone how to do these exploits.... i'm sure people wont start doing them in casual now...

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter Рік тому +3

      literally the most braindead video to have been released in years, but can u be surprised. ppl in csgo promote gambling to children bc it gets them traffic. no surprise tf2 mfs will trade the ability to play the game for clicks on their video

    • @zelbekon
      @zelbekon Рік тому +1

      Blame Valve for not fixing them for so long.

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter Рік тому

      thats a strawman argument and holds 0 ground@@zelbekon

    • @ThyBigCheddar
      @ThyBigCheddar Рік тому +1

      ​@@tf_lecter No it really isn't

    • @tf_lecter
      @tf_lecter Рік тому

      @@ThyBigCheddar mfw u dont know what a logical fallacy is... ur literally shifting the blame to valve and off of the rats exploiting

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Місяць тому +2

    "Even if Gabe Newell Thanos-snapped all of the bots and hackers out of existence.."
    That aged well.

  • @trashcanartist
    @trashcanartist Місяць тому +3

    2:53 pov: there was a sentry

  • @themomorain
    @themomorain Рік тому +1

    As a fellow neighbour of yours beeing a cs player I really enjoyed to watch this video! Man people are so nerdy figuring all this stuff out I love it! :)
    Of cause not cheats or all the exploits but when something creative is beeing found.

  • @funtimes9670
    @funtimes9670 Рік тому +9

    8:30 Velocity and speed aren’t the same thing in real life either

  • @DreamGuyKk
    @DreamGuyKk Рік тому +1

    The captions are well done, good job!

  • @MidnightFlight378
    @MidnightFlight378 Рік тому +5

    Well... Not playing spy for a month after this video for sure. Casual lobbies will be nightmare.

  • @Dayreaverthe_Theo
    @Dayreaverthe_Theo 5 місяців тому +2

    _"DIGGING A HOLE, JUST ONE MORE TIME UNTIL I SCORE THIS I'LL STRIKE RICH ON DIAMONDS IRON GOLD AND BUILD OUR DECKED OUT FORTRESS" -[unassigned], 2023_

  • @StormTrooperEX
    @StormTrooperEX Рік тому +9

    7:50 so thats why bot can see invisible spys thats so annoying

    • @SolarLight
      @SolarLight  Рік тому +18

      Nah, the bots use something called ESP. After all, they're hacking. Don't need exploits if you're already hacking.

  • @abdul.rawi215
    @abdul.rawi215 Рік тому +2

    7:14 i love how you almost broke down after that joke

  • @TashiTheChildOfApollo
    @TashiTheChildOfApollo Рік тому +10

    I love how every Tf2 UA-camr is dunking on Pyrocynical for using the fat mod so funny

  • @boqk
    @boqk Рік тому +2

    11:13
    I swear this is just a group hallucination

  • @UnluckyCharacter821
    @UnluckyCharacter821 Рік тому +6

    2:14 wow what a beautiful fire model

  • @Cow845
    @Cow845 8 місяців тому +1

    Anyways, here is a brownie recipe.
    Ingredients:
    - 1 cup unsalted butter
    - 2 cups granulated sugar
    - 4 large eggs
    - 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
    - 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
    - 1/2 cup cocoa powder
    - 1/4 teaspoon salt
    - 1/4 cup meth
    - 1 cup chopped nuts or chocolate chips (optional)
    Instructions:
    1. Preheat oven to 350 F (175 C) and grease a baking pan.
    2. Melt 1 cup butter, mix with 2 cups sugar.
    3. Add 4 eggs and 1 tsp vanilla; mix well.
    5. Sift in 1/2 cup flour, 1/2 cup cocoa, and
    1/5 tsp salt; stir.
    1. Optional: add 1 cup nuts or chocolate chips.
    2. Pour into the pan, bake 25-30 mins.
    3. Cool completely, Cut into squares, and enjoy your brownies!

  • @SilliestBricklol
    @SilliestBricklol 5 місяців тому +6

    14:41
    foreshadowing

  • @Vexcenot
    @Vexcenot Рік тому

    11:33 that secondary voice gave me high anxiety i didn't know sound mixing like that was possible

  • @lordkaos31
    @lordkaos31 Рік тому +5

    11:38 if I zoom in on the crosshair on my phone it vibrates it’s power is emanating.

  • @loy2195
    @loy2195 7 місяців тому +1

    4:50 only thing I got from that is that the Demoman is inhumanely good at throwing it back.

  • @TheSpokenBanana
    @TheSpokenBanana Рік тому +7

    8:14 that's real life logic too...

  • @jeffboy4231
    @jeffboy4231 Рік тому

    i just wanna say i appreciate these captions! they are really awesome

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Рік тому +14

    This game truly is held together by globs of chewed bubble gum, Elmer’s glue, scotch tape, and morally grey intentions.

  • @Tuii
    @Tuii Рік тому

    Love the Pokemon Gale of Darkness music!
    Great video, now i can break every competitive rule at once!

  • @MegaPokeman1
    @MegaPokeman1 Рік тому +4

    Part of me wants the sound file for the distorted boom at 14:00

  • @jackdaniels4547
    @jackdaniels4547 Рік тому +1

    epic editing and humor. loved the video!

  • @EvelliosE
    @EvelliosE 10 місяців тому +3

    Cheating in tf2 has always been a strange case to me

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner Рік тому +2

    The whole bot thing has been weird for me. I ran into them now during Scream Fortress, but they are insanely obvious about it and are... well, stupid. The bots don't even vote to save each other, just take up spots for a few seconds before getting kicked. Its super weird.

  • @geometrydasher7665
    @geometrydasher7665 Рік тому +7

    "The bots will never make a good mashup"
    0:11

    • @Anarqism
      @Anarqism 10 місяців тому

      they were right

  • @tomynaumann
    @tomynaumann Рік тому +8

    Thank you for exposing the reverse quantum crouch solarlight, now everyone who tries it will find out that it only works very rarely and they'll just be feeding the engies all the kills 😂

  • @alsnana00
    @alsnana00 Рік тому

    these subtitles are so good compared to the non-stop subtitles most youtubers/shorts use nowadays, thanks.

  • @champion99999
    @champion99999 Рік тому +18

    bro really taught us how to cheat

  • @FurryEskimo
    @FurryEskimo 10 місяців тому

    8:14
    “In TF2 logic, velocity isn’t the same thing as speed.”
    Wait until you hear about real life..

  • @OmegaCorsair
    @OmegaCorsair Рік тому +8

    2:30 i like exploits are gold in Subtitles

  • @kittentrucker7353
    @kittentrucker7353 7 місяців тому

    Wow, i have Closed Captions on and you put a lot of effort into those.

  • @Raelyn
    @Raelyn Рік тому +28

    Oh boy. While I do understand that exposure is how some of this stuff gets fixed (in theory), I can't say I'm excited to know this video will teach a lot more players how to install that Spy cloak sound exploit. It's already an incredibly hard to detect mod in the comp scene unless the player is being very obvious about it. Again, exposure is hopefully what will lead to it being fixed, I'm just dreading it being more commonplace.

    • @Spokenword
      @Spokenword Рік тому +6

      Valve is entirely to blame. They had ample time to fix it.

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 Рік тому

      @@Spokenword They still *HAVE* time to fix it, they just choose not to give a shit.

    • @Xx_SuperPenis_xX
      @Xx_SuperPenis_xX Рік тому

      I feel like people who are willing to cheat would already know about this

    • @chost-059
      @chost-059 Рік тому +3

      Gatekeeping sound mods

    • @stitchfinger7678
      @stitchfinger7678 Рік тому +4

      @@chost-059 its literal cheating

  • @theoneandonlybananafrom1776

    Hahaha you put moist critical right after he mentioned jesus. Absolutely amazing video!

  • @olitory
    @olitory Рік тому +6

    thank god my country is too poor to run bots lmao
    only a few locally hosted bots join but they're gone the next day, most bots here in brazil are from other countries
    when we did have a large scale bot invasion last smissmass everybody went to play on uncletopia
    edit 12 of august: yep history repeats itself, bot evasion, uncletopia is full in 2 weeks i can play casual again
    note: it may have been last halloween instead of smissmass but i dont remember
    10:00 pretty sure etf2l also made the decision to ban that sniper lol, poor wizat

  • @nodoxxintoday
    @nodoxxintoday Рік тому +1

    My goodness both the vid and the subtitles are amazing

  • @Eremalauda
    @Eremalauda 9 місяців тому +6

    10:47 why tf is jynxzi here??

  • @driprappy
    @driprappy Рік тому

    Your editing style is becoming the AsumSaus of TF2. It’s beautiful.

  • @COCRushed
    @COCRushed 9 місяців тому +4

    5:50 how did you get the sky to look like that?

  • @mp5_Puppy
    @mp5_Puppy 8 місяців тому +1

    Your subtitles are fucking amazing, thank you!

  • @Brown95P
    @Brown95P Рік тому +3

    l love how most of the lightning round exploits are completely exclusive to Upward.
    It still baffles me that such a buggy map has been allowed in comp for this long.

    • @getaround1276
      @getaround1276 Рік тому +2

      If you ignore the bugs it's a contender for best designed map in the gane

    • @Techhunter_Talon
      @Techhunter_Talon 11 місяців тому +1

      Wonder if anyone got banned because of them getting launched up into the ceiling by someone on the enemy team and hitting the resupply through the ceiling?

  • @CornCamp
    @CornCamp Рік тому +2

    For community fixes to be added at a decent rate, I would assume a robust suite of automated tests to be necessary to catch the inevitable wave of regression bugs. It is safe to assume tf2 doesn't have a comprehensive suite of tests like that. To build one would be a gargantuan task. TF2's reliance on name strings will not make it any easier as code compiles regardless of misspellings. In 2007, games weren't built to accomodate routine content updates.
    On the bright side, Spy getting screwed is funny.

  • @lPuffalo
    @lPuffalo Рік тому +4

    13:22 Ah, the Roadkill! special

  • @Lhamb
    @Lhamb Рік тому

    Solar, my beloved, you never said you were a yakuza gamer. That is gameplay I would love to see