Remember on water cooled you have to change the impeller every year and if it goes out while away from the sailboat you could overheat the expensive mercury or paddle back if you notice the water not spraying out the back.😮
If your going to run in salt water , you need to disassemble and paint with marine epoxy pint. That will keep it from caroding...fill throttle wire tube with grease to keep it moving....
I think we've all been done this track before....it's just so tempting trying to save a dollar by buying the cheaper product only then end up throwing more good dollars at the better product ,after the one we just bought breaks or falls apart..! Well done on the a good honest overview and assessment of the motor and likewise also agree with Scott and yourself that its not really suited to the salt water 😂 cheers
Thanks guys - staying warm over there? Sure has been cold here. My dad used to say "penny wise, pound foolish". I think I didn't listen well enough haha
Yeah, in fresh water the motors are holding up nicely. Also the OP has freely admitted there were steps he did not take to prevent the damage the salt caused. I found a 6 year review earlier.
I have a Tomking 4 cycle. Much quieter than a 2 cycle and it's dependable. I'm in the position of feeling sorry for boaters with water cooled and heavy motors. It's easier to service than a Hangkai and it has an aluminum prop. On a sailboat, you might prefer a TK140FC 1 HP 18 LBS over my TK144FC 23 LBS. I don't leave fuel in the tank overnight. If you point it in a direction, it will get there. 4 cycles are a snap to start and they are quieter. Gulls and Elgins are an unusual exception.
Is this in the ocean? How is this so rusty after 6 months wow. You should try rust spraying the metal parts to help keep your machine working for years to come :)
It is water cooled . I've been there and done that and gave up very soon. When I bought mine on eBay it laeked water from the cooling jacket over the cylinder. I tred to return it but they offered me a full refund and had a free motor. I gave it to a mate. He chucked it after 3 months. If you like tinkering hmmm but the novelty wears off
Did you spray Marine Grease all over the engine and components that would have prevented the rust buildup specially if you are in salt water just wondering because I'm looking at getting one
No Stephen, I didn't but wish I had. Also a lot of good advice in the comments I wish I knew beforehand. They are noisier than other motors but it got me where I wanted to go.
its probley at the bottom on where they were tied up there, that thing was dead weight lol, they dont need that an from what hes showed us, we dont need one either lol
Your biggest mistakes were buying the 2 cycle and no preventative maintenance. I have a Tomking TK144FC 4 cycle. Same size. I changed the centrifugal springs for trolling, filed and shimmed the flywheel slot for far less advanced ignition, greased the throttle and screw threads, 85W 140 oil for prop gear, and put a hand finish on the aluminum propeller. The same cheap start unit will last far longer because 4 cycles start much easier. They don't foul plugs. Water cooling means jellyfish.
i think that's becouse you didn't a great maintance to it. I mean, if you regurally spray on it crc marine and wash it every time it may last more. Even mercury are all rusty if you don't do a great maintance
Was that Chippie I saw at about 0.20-0.22 seconds? It looks like the same style grey t-shirt he was wearing in ep 151. Good evaluation on the outboard, from the state of the metals, completely agree it is ill suited for salt water environment. CS & FW
Yeah im with everyone else on this, You failed to break it in right. You failed to maintain it well. Maintenance incl Bees wax on the pull cord, Gear oil in lower unit.. Clean rinse of fresh water and store away from weather. Its light enough to lift.
My father calls chinese metal monkey metal, My father worked for British Steel for years. And said Chinese metals are very poor quality. As a biker id never own a Chinese Bike they just rust out quickly and the wiring is very thin and poor.
Clearly you havnt looked after the motor, nor maintained it in any way shape or form. If you are running it maj ly in salt water you need to keep all exposed cables greased, the pull cord needs bee wax applying and before storing it away it needs to be run in non salt water for 5 mins. That's of course only my opinion.
Not a good engine but you guys are horrible with tools....I hope you don't work on anything that requires the use of tools for a living. Oh my god I wrote this comment under the influence of alcohol and can't believe how much of an understatement it was.
Doing a pros and cons review with a 200 dollar motor in saltwater with no maintenance really .And i dont care if you have a yamaha if you dont do maintenance especially in saltwater you will ruin the motor this is not a fair review
What maintenance is there to do on a simple two-stroke, especially after only six months? It’s still a brand new motor. And it’s not like the starter is a maintenance item. There are Yamahas (among other brands) from the 1980’s still in use without ever needing anything other than spark plugs.
@@christianronn5301 maintenance isn't only wrench time it's also making sure in salt the motor is properly flushed every time out spray down with wd or such lubing up your throttle lever cables and pivot points that's maintenance Means to maintain .keeping it in good condition not running the crap out of it in salt water especially then going home and throwing it in the garage till next weekend .that's how any motor budget or a brand name lasts along time . I've seen the most expensive brand motors not make it past a season due to poor maintenance . And please show me any motor brand name or not that's last long with just changing a sparkplug and not flushing it out with fresh water and lubing it .I don't know what the salt content of the water you boat in but here in the real world salt is the most corrosive thing to boats and even vehicles alike .
@@bdanielcal4608 I’d like to think I live in the real world, a five minute walk from the Baltic sea. Nobody “flushes their outboards” except in fall, when the season is over. Maybe.
@@bdanielcal4608 do you only need to do this when using it in salt water? We have no idea. The first time we used the engine, some random people had to start it for us. If you need to clean it every time you use it in a river or canal, then I guess ours is already wrecked as we haven't done anything. I guess we need to learn a lot before we invest in an expensive motor
@@sfbluestar it does. i have had one for a year now and it has hold up great even if i have used it for a few months in the baltic sea wich is saltwater
Thank you for taking the time and energy to report 6 months later. Very, very helpful. Good on you.
glad we could
Remember on water cooled you have to change the impeller every year and if it goes out while away from the sailboat you could overheat the expensive mercury or paddle back if you notice the water not spraying out the back.😮
If your going to run in salt water , you need to disassemble and paint with marine epoxy pint. That will keep it from caroding...fill throttle wire tube with grease to keep it moving....
I really should have thought of that! Great idea and I wish I had done it!
Do you need to do that if you use it in lakes and canals?
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I think we've all been done this track before....it's just so tempting trying to save a dollar by buying the cheaper product only then end up throwing more good dollars at the better product ,after the one we just bought breaks or falls apart..!
Well done on the a good honest overview and assessment of the motor and likewise also agree with Scott and yourself that its not really suited to the salt water 😂 cheers
Thanks guys - staying warm over there? Sure has been cold here.
My dad used to say "penny wise, pound foolish". I think I didn't listen well enough haha
The old adage the the most expensive tool you can buy is a cheap tool seems to apply to outboard motors too!
Yeah, in fresh water the motors are holding up nicely. Also the OP has freely admitted there were steps he did not take to prevent the damage the salt caused. I found a 6 year review earlier.
Hey can you share manual? I'm looking for spare parts code's
I have a Tomking 4 cycle. Much quieter than a 2 cycle and it's dependable. I'm in the position of feeling sorry for boaters with water cooled and heavy motors. It's easier to service than a Hangkai and it has an aluminum prop. On a sailboat, you might prefer a TK140FC 1 HP 18 LBS over my TK144FC 23 LBS. I don't leave fuel in the tank overnight. If you point it in a direction, it will get there. 4 cycles are a snap to start and they are quieter. Gulls and Elgins are an unusual exception.
Cheers guys !
Hope you enjoyed it
@@sailingsalaciastarinformative thanks
Great video. Tells me I need to lubricate all the screws when I receive it. Thanks
IT WAS IN A SALTWATER ENVIRONMENT 24/7 ID SAY THAT IS REALLY GOOD FOR SOMETHING THAT DIDNT BELONG THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
Yep me too
Is this in the ocean? How is this so rusty after 6 months wow. You should try rust spraying the metal parts to help keep your machine working for years to come :)
You should've packed it with grease to keep the saltwater from corroding everything.
It is water cooled . I've been there and done that and gave up very soon.
When I bought mine on eBay it laeked water from the cooling jacket over the cylinder. I tred to return it but they offered me a full refund and had a free motor. I gave it to a mate. He chucked it after 3 months.
If you like tinkering hmmm but the novelty wears off
Did you fill the gear case with oil..... They are shipped dry
Yes Geoff - saw it on a UA-cam, otherwise wouldn't have known to do that.
Did you spray Marine Grease all over the engine and components that would have prevented the rust buildup specially if you are in salt water just wondering because I'm looking at getting one
No Stephen, I didn't but wish I had. Also a lot of good advice in the comments I wish I knew beforehand.
They are noisier than other motors but it got me where I wanted to go.
@@sailingsalaciastar beautiful boat by the way
@@stephengalvan7722thanks, she's an oldie but a goodies.
Do you watch our sailing channel on YT?
Sailing Salacia Star
but is that saltwater and has it been sitting outside the whole 6 months
Yes it is always outside and is only used in salt water - so the poor thing never had a chance.
Think it would be great if only used in fresh water.
So you can run it without being in the water?
Not for long, its water cooled. Needs the water flowing.
Does it still run?
its probley at the bottom on where they were tied up there,
that thing was dead weight lol, they dont need that an from what hes showed us, we dont need one either lol
Your biggest mistakes were buying the 2 cycle and no preventative maintenance. I have a Tomking TK144FC 4 cycle. Same size. I changed the centrifugal springs for trolling, filed and shimmed the flywheel slot for far less advanced ignition, greased the throttle and screw threads, 85W 140 oil for prop gear, and put a hand finish on the aluminum propeller. The same cheap start unit will last far longer because 4 cycles start much easier. They don't foul plugs. Water cooling means jellyfish.
Did you ever do an accurate speed test on it?
No, never did. Wish I had though :)
i think that's becouse you didn't a great maintance to it. I mean, if you regurally spray on it crc marine and wash it every time it may last more. Even mercury are all rusty if you don't do a great maintance
Rusty...your fault!
Was that Chippie I saw at about 0.20-0.22 seconds? It looks like the same style grey t-shirt he was wearing in ep 151.
Good evaluation on the outboard, from the state of the metals, completely agree it is ill suited for salt water environment.
CS & FW
That sure was Chippee, he is a great mentor to us.
I do not recommend these engines for long term use in salt water, you would go alot longer with say a yamaha 2hp
Totally agree Chey - fresh water use only. Would absolutely love a Yamaha but the cost here is considerably more than a Mercury - which we now have.
should have opened up the lid and greased the insides to prevent rust. i guess that this outboard wasn't for the average joe.
not for saltwater maybe.😅😅😅
Yeah im with everyone else on this, You failed to break it in right. You failed to maintain it well. Maintenance incl Bees wax on the pull cord, Gear oil in lower unit.. Clean rinse of fresh water and store away from weather. Its light enough to lift.
My father calls chinese metal monkey metal, My father worked for British Steel for years. And said Chinese metals are very poor quality. As a biker id never own a Chinese Bike they just rust out quickly and the wiring is very thin and poor.
Chinese outboard motor.....maybe only Parsun.....
Clearly you havnt looked after the motor, nor maintained it in any way shape or form.
If you are running it maj ly in salt water you need to keep all exposed cables greased, the pull cord needs bee wax applying and before storing it away it needs to be run in non salt water for 5 mins.
That's of course only my opinion.
I still don't know why you people take a perfectly good boat and put it in salt water. I like my Great Lakes freshwater
Not a good engine but you guys are horrible with tools....I hope you don't work on anything that requires the use of tools for a living.
Oh my god I wrote this comment under the influence of alcohol and can't believe how much of an understatement it was.
Doing a pros and cons review with a 200 dollar motor in saltwater with no maintenance really .And i dont care if you have a yamaha if you dont do maintenance especially in saltwater you will ruin the motor this is not a fair review
Umm, what maintenance needs to be done? I guess we're going to wreck our motor because we don't do anything to it
What maintenance is there to do on a simple two-stroke, especially after only six months? It’s still a brand new motor. And it’s not like the starter is a maintenance item.
There are Yamahas (among other brands) from the 1980’s still in use without ever needing anything other than spark plugs.
@@christianronn5301 maintenance isn't only wrench time it's also making sure in salt the motor is properly flushed every time out spray down with wd or such lubing up your throttle lever cables and pivot points that's maintenance Means to maintain .keeping it in good condition not running the crap out of it in salt water especially then going home and throwing it in the garage till next weekend .that's how any motor budget or a brand name lasts along time . I've seen the most expensive brand motors not make it past a season due to poor maintenance . And please show me any motor brand name or not that's last long with just changing a sparkplug and not flushing it out with fresh water and lubing it .I don't know what the salt content of the water you boat in but here in the real world salt is the most corrosive thing to boats and even vehicles alike .
@@bdanielcal4608 I’d like to think I live in the real world, a five minute walk from the Baltic sea. Nobody “flushes their outboards” except in fall, when the season is over. Maybe.
@@bdanielcal4608 do you only need to do this when using it in salt water? We have no idea. The first time we used the engine, some random people had to start it for us. If you need to clean it every time you use it in a river or canal, then I guess ours is already wrecked as we haven't done anything. I guess we need to learn a lot before we invest in an expensive motor
Looks like a piece of junk
It did work OK for a bit but the salt water killed it quickly. We get what we pay for I guess.
@@sailingsalaciastar I wonder if it will hold up better if more protected. For example, use only in fresh water, wash/flush it after use, etc.
@@sfbluestar it does. i have had one for a year now and it has hold up great even if i have used it for a few months in the baltic sea wich is saltwater
@@sfbluestaryeah, taken car of, it will last a while. Will need spare parts though.
junk!
yep
Come on, yourrunning it in SALT WATER ! What do you expect ?
Yeah, salt water and no care will kill everything.