i got the hangthang 18 hp last year . very good motor so far, took it out yesterday. 2 pulls to crank- no paint issues yet. thanks for your knowledge and advice. i like Chinese food too!!!!
Thanks for sharing your experiences, it is appreciated. I live in Florida, USA. I purchased a used 18hp with 40 hours last year. Besides the corroded paint, my tilt spring rusted and broke. It took some time to find a good replacement. I used Yamaha 90506-20M27, not exact shape, but works. I'll have to check how rusted my throttle cable is.
I have a 1963 Johnson Evinrude 6 horsepower that has the original spark plugs from Factory everything is original it runs absolutely like brand new and idle for days. Paint is still perfect. Find american made boat stuff. It's simply better in every aspect. Mine is 62 years old and start on first pull every time
None of these issues are a reason to not buy this motor. Every one of those issues are general maintenance issues. Per your video the biggest issue you had was the paint, what happened was electrolysis. These motors do not come with sacrificial anodes from the factory, you need to add your own. The pattern and type of chipping you had in the paint was classic elecrtolysis. Buy some Tohatsu anodes and install them to prevent this issue. The exact same thing will happen to a $10,000 motor if you do not have sacrificial anodes, especially in salt water. If you repaint and do not install anodes, you will have the same issue again. You should always grease all your cables and bolts exposed to the water in any marine engine to prevent these issues. Hangkai saves on cost by not pre-greasing all these areas before shipping, they expect you to do it. And the fuel filter cracking isn't really an issue since you should replace those every year anyway.
@Meatnewdadbod The same thing can be said about a lot of things. Did you watch the video? They are very low quality. Just because I can buy 3 Kia's for the price of my Toyota doesn't mean Kia is a smart purchase. 🤦 Have you ever heard the saying, "You get what you pay for?"
@@erocker78 the important things on the motor that matter are literally made the same. By the way horrible analogy because Toyotas are built like shit these days. They are no better than kias. And consumer reviews and Edmund’s reports will fact check what I just said
@Meatnewdadbod I don't agree with your statement and if Toyota's are built like shit these days and are no better than Kia, then that's not saying much for your Chinese made Hangkai. Good luck on the water bro. 😆
If really want to remove the old (but good) paint, using a grinder with flap disc is easier. Wire brush on drill take too long to remove the good original paint, but can remove the peeled paint easy easy.
The area that he scraped appears to have a galvanized finish on it.... If that's the case, special primer is needed to adhere to that galvanized surface... regular primer won't cut it... It will let go like this black paint is doing... It is a chemical reaction between the galvanization and normal paint... Get the paint off and wipe it all down with mineral spirits or paint thinner.... Galvite metal primer is specifically designed for galvanized metal.. apply as directed and allow to dry... just about any paint can go over that primer. It isn't cheap, but it's a good product.
@@1956tojo yaya, the regular car primer is not ideal. Will try to find the proper marine primer . The car primer is sticking on the body but my cheap regular spray paint after few trip in the salt water, the paint surface is like having rough skin. I will spray with marine paint next time if i can find the paint. Tq for your advise😁
This is the hardest test for these engines.Hot salt water. May as well be in acid. Would be nice to have been primed with old school zinc chromate. I am worried what is going on the other side of the metal. It must be a fresh water only engine. No alkaline fresh water either.
I had a 1988 Mariner 115, last year of the strait 6 for 35 Years and it was in better shape than that - I am in South Fl and flushing every time you come back in and hosing it down with fresh water (never open the cover and hose the block while hot) I was thinking of a Hangkai for an inflatable, not a chance after seeing all this corrosion -
The hangkai isnt bad except the paint😅. If one is planning to use only one outboard for 10 or more years , maybe is best to get a branded outboard because of their spare parts and services. For someone like me, if this cheap outboard can serve me for maybe 3 to 5years or more, it is a win and money well spent😁.
It is not for saltwater. Mine 12HP same after 3 months. Unless you repain it b4 touching saltwater and change the Anode (i modified Tohatsu 9.8HP Adnode to fit it). For throttle cables, clean it every time after boating.
For hangkai use in fresh water ,the paint problem will still happen but not as fast as salt water. My previous hangkai12hp also change the anode to tohatsu 9.8 one, but better to add additional anode somewhere on the body because the 12hp anode is tiny😁
I have the 12hp the main issue is the pain as well, very lazy to repain so the appearance is quite bad now but the engine performs like new for 2 years now
Good suggestion for new user 👍,but mine is too late for that. now the hangkai is 3yrs old and 300hrs already, i am kind of get used to the look, i just need to sand and repaint it ..maybe once a year😋
Your video is very good friend!! I am very interested in buying one like this based on your experience! I think it will be a good purchase!! Can you tell me what mixture of gasoline and oil I could use? I mean the proportion you use!! 1 gallon of gasoline for how much oil!! thank you
For the first 10hrs the mixture should be 25 : 1 (gasoline : oil) , after 10hrs the mixture 50 gas :1oil. The above ratio is the recommendation of the factory requirement. For me, the first tank of fuel i mixed 25:1, then 2tank onward till now are 50:1.
@@chong7091 Aaaa same with me. Im from Terengganu Malaysia. Pantai Timur sea punya haha. Yeah dah nampak macam ada bengkak sikit could be corroded inside. Maybe this weekend i will try to repaint it and do some layering like 2-3 layer. Another issue is that my tilting steel easily corroded as well :(
The tilt steel, i just apply grease once in a while. Undercoat use the car undercoat/marine grade undercoat. I use car undercoat only, bought at the car paint shop
@@chong7091 Thanks. That hopefully makes it easier to find parts. I’ve owned a few 20hp Yamahas the past few years and they were fantastic, but they’re pretty expensive. I wish you good luck with the Hangkai. It’s an intriguing motor considering the price.
@@scottgoodson5132 this is not a bad engine (beside the paint). The parts are way cheaper to by the hangkai original instead of yamaha parts. But if you have no choice to acquire the original cheap hangkai parts, you can always use yamaha parts , most of the parts are equivalent beside the conrod( the holes diameter is smallerfor hangkai compare to yamaha)
Yes, All the Hankais are like this. I have the 6.5hp 4 stroke. Lives in salt water. Started to corrode after the first season. They do not prep the aluminum correctly at the factory for painting. They use 1 coat of black enamel paint with no primer coat. I took my outboard completely apart, sand blasted all the pieces down to the raw aluminum, prepped the aluminum for painting, heavy coat of primer, two coats of black enamel and two coats of clear coat. This season no sign of any corrosion living in salter water for 6 months. These outboards are cheap because they do cut corners (one being the paint). LIke he said the engines are bullet proof. The paint job stinks. @@denisdezan1309
or just a get a mint used 9.9/15hp OMC motor and corrosion issues will be a thing of the past with $ to spare. yamaha still corrodes, although much better than this trash.
The outboard is not bad you just need to "Engineer the Chinese out of It" I redid my paint job and changed out a few bearings and seals with quality German/Japanese made bearings/seals. I have a very reliable outboard that will last me many years. You just need to be willing to take the thing completely apart and reengineer into a quality halfway decent outboard.
@@dgomes1967 haha or just rebuild a classic 20-35hp OMC motor for 1/2 price and have more power, similar weight. But i hear you... lots of work on a brand new motor doesnt sound ideal but what can you do?
Hangkai 18hp paint job done video
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i got the hangthang 18 hp last year . very good motor so far, took it out yesterday. 2 pulls to crank- no paint issues yet. thanks for your knowledge and advice. i like Chinese food too!!!!
I would still get one of these though. They're definitely worth it for the price
@@2bit2strokes38 i agreed
Thanks for sharing your experiences, it is appreciated. I live in Florida, USA. I purchased a used 18hp with 40 hours last year. Besides the corroded paint, my tilt spring rusted and broke. It took some time to find a good replacement. I used Yamaha 90506-20M27, not exact shape, but works. I'll have to check how rusted my throttle cable is.
It the throttle cable broke ,you can replace with yamaha 15hp throttle cable but remember to buy the longer one ( there are short and long type)
I have a 1963 Johnson Evinrude 6 horsepower that has the original spark plugs from Factory everything is original it runs absolutely like brand new and idle for days. Paint is still perfect. Find american made boat stuff. It's simply better in every aspect. Mine is 62 years old and start on first pull every time
looks good enough for average use
None of these issues are a reason to not buy this motor. Every one of those issues are general maintenance issues. Per your video the biggest issue you had was the paint, what happened was electrolysis. These motors do not come with sacrificial anodes from the factory, you need to add your own. The pattern and type of chipping you had in the paint was classic elecrtolysis. Buy some Tohatsu anodes and install them to prevent this issue. The exact same thing will happen to a $10,000 motor if you do not have sacrificial anodes, especially in salt water. If you repaint and do not install anodes, you will have the same issue again. You should always grease all your cables and bolts exposed to the water in any marine engine to prevent these issues. Hangkai saves on cost by not pre-greasing all these areas before shipping, they expect you to do it. And the fuel filter cracking isn't really an issue since you should replace those every year anyway.
100% on the money, maintenance is the issue, which is not an issue it is a user error.
I'll just save up my money for a Mercury or a Yamaha. Thank you for the video. It provided a lot of insight.
😂😂😂😂 you could buy 3 of these for the price of your overrated name brand motor
@Meatnewdadbod The same thing can be said about a lot of things. Did you watch the video? They are very low quality. Just because I can buy 3 Kia's for the price of my Toyota doesn't mean Kia is a smart purchase. 🤦 Have you ever heard the saying, "You get what you pay for?"
@@erocker78 the important things on the motor that matter are literally made the same.
By the way horrible analogy because Toyotas are built like shit these days. They are no better than kias. And consumer reviews and Edmund’s reports will fact check what I just said
@Meatnewdadbod I don't agree with your statement and if Toyota's are built like shit these days and are no better than Kia, then that's not saying much for your Chinese made Hangkai. Good luck on the water bro. 😆
All you need is to add an anode. This will happen to any motor without an anode.
A wire brush on a drill might make it easy to remove the old paint 😊
If really want to remove the old (but good) paint, using a grinder with flap disc is easier. Wire brush on drill take too long to remove the good original paint, but can remove the peeled paint easy easy.
It is always easier to use a paint removing solvent. Sanding and brushing rarely work.
The area that he scraped appears to have a galvanized finish on it.... If that's the case, special primer is needed to adhere to that galvanized surface... regular primer won't cut it... It will let go like this black paint is doing... It is a chemical reaction between the galvanization and normal paint... Get the paint off and wipe it all down with mineral spirits or paint thinner.... Galvite metal primer is specifically designed for galvanized metal.. apply as directed and allow to dry... just about any paint can go over that primer. It isn't cheap, but it's a good product.
@@1956tojo yaya, the regular car primer is not ideal. Will try to find the proper marine primer . The car primer is sticking on the body but my cheap regular spray paint after few trip in the salt water, the paint surface is like having rough skin. I will spray with marine paint next time if i can find the paint. Tq for your advise😁
This is the hardest test for these engines.Hot salt water. May as well be in acid. Would be nice to have been primed with old school zinc chromate. I am worried what is going on the other side of the metal. It must be a fresh water only engine. No alkaline fresh water either.
Excellent video. Thank you.
I had a 1988 Mariner 115, last year of the strait 6 for 35 Years and it was in better shape than that - I am in South Fl and flushing every time you come back in and hosing it down with fresh water (never open the cover and hose the block while hot) I was thinking of a Hangkai for an inflatable, not a chance after seeing all this corrosion -
The hangkai isnt bad except the paint😅. If one is planning to use only one outboard for 10 or more years , maybe is best to get a branded outboard because of their spare parts and services. For someone like me, if this cheap outboard can serve me for maybe 3 to 5years or more, it is a win and money well spent😁.
All it needs is an anode lol
I have a 50 year old Yamaha 8A on my zodiac and it is is better shape than that Hangkai😁 Allways starts on the second pull and works like a charm😊
Good to know. I hand onto my 1969 Evinrude since I run in salt water.
It is not for saltwater. Mine 12HP same after 3 months. Unless you repain it b4 touching saltwater and change the Anode (i modified Tohatsu 9.8HP Adnode to fit it). For throttle cables, clean it every time after boating.
For hangkai use in fresh water ,the paint problem will still happen but not as fast as salt water. My previous hangkai12hp also change the anode to tohatsu 9.8 one, but better to add additional anode somewhere on the body because the 12hp anode is tiny😁
I have the 12hp the main issue is the pain as well, very lazy to repain so the appearance is quite bad now but the engine performs like new for 2 years now
Like me.....lazy to repaint. But this time because the sea is rough and i cannot go fishing.... Nothing to do so repaint the enjin lo😅
This guy might be slagging it off my one I was so impressed with I got a second just so you know instead of just listening to the haters
Try ceramic coat or wax before using new.
Good suggestion for new user 👍,but mine is too late for that. now the hangkai is 3yrs old and 300hrs already, i am kind of get used to the look, i just need to sand and repaint it ..maybe once a year😋
Your video is very good friend!! I am very interested in buying one like this based on your experience! I think it will be a good purchase!! Can you tell me what mixture of gasoline and oil I could use? I mean the proportion you use!! 1 gallon of gasoline for how much oil!! thank you
For the first 10hrs the mixture should be 25 : 1 (gasoline : oil) , after 10hrs the mixture 50 gas :1oil.
The above ratio is the recommendation of the factory requirement.
For me, the first tank of fuel i mixed 25:1, then 2tank onward till now are 50:1.
Sir where are u from sir. Malaysia is it? i also have Hangkai 18hp the problem I had is that the paint. Corrode as well :(
Haha, paint only ,just repaint it like me, i will make a video when i repaint it, not professinal way of course. Yes i am from Kuching ,malaysia
@@chong7091 Aaaa same with me. Im from Terengganu Malaysia. Pantai Timur sea punya haha. Yeah dah nampak macam ada bengkak sikit could be corroded inside. Maybe this weekend i will try to repaint it and do some layering like 2-3 layer. Another issue is that my tilting steel easily corroded as well :(
The tilt steel, i just apply grease once in a while. Undercoat use the car undercoat/marine grade undercoat. I use car undercoat only, bought at the car paint shop
The metalic paint, i bought at mr diy..... Cheap paint😅
Man, just wash and wax it, like you would your car !
I was scrolling on some hang thangz today too and almost pulled the trigger, then decided maybe watch some YT videos for a bit first.
Actually, i am very satisfy with the hangkai..... Beside the paint of course😁
Great video. Are these based on Yamaha or Mercury, so you can buy parts for them?
This outboard is based on yamaha 15hp 😁
@@chong7091 Thanks. That hopefully makes it easier to find parts. I’ve owned a few 20hp Yamahas the past few years and they were fantastic, but they’re pretty expensive. I wish you good luck with the Hangkai. It’s an intriguing motor considering the price.
@@scottgoodson5132 this is not a bad engine (beside the paint). The parts are way cheaper to by the hangkai original instead of yamaha parts. But if you have no choice to acquire the original cheap hangkai parts, you can always use yamaha parts , most of the parts are equivalent beside the conrod( the holes diameter is smallerfor hangkai compare to yamaha)
Is there a sacrificial anode?
Yes. The anode did its job well.
@@chong7091 hmm .. why the paint is coming off then. You think because of bad quality?
The paint is only good for fresh water only. Cheap paint job
Yes, All the Hankais are like this. I have the 6.5hp 4 stroke. Lives in salt water. Started to corrode after the first season. They do not prep the aluminum correctly at the factory for painting. They use 1 coat of black enamel paint with no primer coat. I took my outboard completely apart, sand blasted all the pieces down to the raw aluminum, prepped the aluminum for painting, heavy coat of primer, two coats of black enamel and two coats of clear coat. This season no sign of any corrosion living in salter water for 6 months. These outboards are cheap because they do cut corners (one being the paint). LIke he said the engines are bullet proof. The paint job stinks. @@denisdezan1309
What does the 18hp weigh?
About 38 kg
or just a get a mint used 9.9/15hp OMC motor and corrosion issues will be a thing of the past with $ to spare. yamaha still corrodes, although much better than this trash.
The outboard is not bad you just need to "Engineer the Chinese out of It" I redid my paint job and changed out a few bearings and seals with quality German/Japanese made bearings/seals. I have a very reliable outboard that will last me many years. You just need to be willing to take the thing completely apart and reengineer into a quality halfway decent outboard.
@@dgomes1967 haha or just rebuild a classic 20-35hp OMC motor for 1/2 price and have more power, similar weight. But i hear you... lots of work on a brand new motor doesnt sound ideal but what can you do?
What a bell end