Fujifilm X-H2S vs SONY FX30｜Do I regret buying the Fuji after one month?
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- After going back and forth between the Fujifilm X-H2S and Sony FX30 for about a year, I eventually ended up going for the Fuji. But do I regret going for the Fuji instead of the Sony? These are my thoughts after owning the Fuji for about one month.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 INTRO
0:17 My Fujifilm backstory
1:05 The SONY presence on UA-cam
1:50 The X-H2S and Vuhlandes
2:15 Going back and forth for months
2:22 Lenses
3:07 CF Express Cards
3:20 A True Hybrid system
4:05 Price
4:45 Do I regret going Fuji?
5:15 Autofocus
6:39 F-Log 2
8:47 I kind of did at first
9:15 I decided to make it work
10:32 The FX3 remains my dream camera though
yo, don't regret anything, I switched from A7IV to X-H2s, SLOG is also noisy when underexposed. Also even tho Sony AF is better, it's not out of this world better by any means. I am still getting familliar with the fuji, but so far the AF is keeping up with my toddler no problem what so ever (and yes a toddler is the ultimate AF test). Also even tho not marketed as dual native ISO, the X-H2s is cleaning up at 3200 ISO which is pretty much identical to 2500 ISO on FX30 (fuji and sony seem to masure ISO slightly different at least to my eye). By choosing Fuji u gained an EVF, better screen, actuall shutter, faaar less rolling shutter, thanks to the stacked sensor, better DR, less crop in 4k120, film simulations, 6k open gate, internal pro res recording etc.There is no better true Hybrid APS-C camera on the market - enjoy it!
Thanks a lot for sharing your point of view! Feels good coming from someone who actually used Sony and Fuji. Apparently, as you state, the X-H2S cleans up at 3200 ISO which I didn't know when I purchased the camera. Still have to test that. Eventually it came down to the lenses I already had + the fact that this is indeed a true hybrid and the FX30 is absolutely not. Your comment made me feel even better about my purchase, thank you ;).
Can’t forget he gained that 14bit readout. The XH2s is a true gem.
@@AntonJDCreativescleans up is at 3200 only when using flog2 profile and the rolling shutter performance taking a hit becoming like the Sony fx30 given that it's 12bit log file.
Using an external recorder will output braw which is just amazing to grade and overwork and tweak
It's a dream.
Also has a different range in flog1 as the second base kicks in at iso 2000 like the previous Fuji xt4
If you self grade the log on Fuji ,it's alot less noisier than applying the official lut from Fuji then grading further
The thing about the sensor is that's alot more organic noise wise and looks more like grain which gives the footage some character.
It's abit too sharp for my taste but nothing a good promist filter can't solve or even better getting a cine lens with lots of character
Cook released some amazing lenses for APSC systems which are fast primes that match the real deal.
Siriu has a set of budget conscious cine primes that also are also plenty fast and have that digital look edged down just right.
If you wanna go super budget
There are also the viltrox trinity primes cine lenses
Those do need a good promist filter though to emulate classic vintage look.
There are lots of options for this sensor
Also the open gate formate unlocks the ability to use anamorphic lenses or adapters like the Siriu.
The colors of this camera combined with a nice set of lenses that have a certain character would create magic ,specially have two powerful lights (300 watt + fernel Bowens focusing beam lens for cob lights) and a huge bounce would let you make some super AAA like shots.
The sensor is very very capable.
I do wish Fuji would finally dip into the cine scene with a camera oriented only and only for video ,maybe a box shaped body with that stacked sensor and with anamorphic desqueeze plus on board xlr and gain audio mixer.
I would buy it in a heartbeat
As a owner of both FX30 and XH2S I can give you answers. But maybe you (and other Sony users) won't like them. First of all, I'm a filmmaker and content creator. I don't review cameras for the sake of it or to get views and likes, these are tools and I make a living out of them.
So, the facts after owning both for a little less than 6 month, again as a filmmau : XH2S is just better in every single way. What do you need : colors? Dynamic range? Open Gate? 6.2K? Noise patterns? IBIS? Menu? Exposure tools? Frame rates? Codecs? All of that is better on the XH2S, and/or are non existent on the FX30. In 2023, I cannot work without ProRes personally. The FX30 or any other camera that cost less than $6k in Sony's lineup don't have it. Instead you're forced to use these tiny codecs. Same for the DCI 4K. Even though the FX30 offers some flavors of it, you have to put the camera in another weird mode to use it. And it doesn't work with all the codecs. If you want regular 4k, you won't be able to playback your DCI files and vice versa, none of these weird things with Fuji. You can access 24, 25, 30, 60, 120, 240 fps all on the same menu without going into a weird mode or even rebooting the camera. Oh, and 4K 120 is not available if you don't have a v90 SD card or a proprietary cf Express type A card on the FX30. The Xh2s boast and industry standard Cf express type B slot. To sum it up : the fx30 doesn't have cf Express type B, good IBIS, good colors, ProRes, 6k, open gate, the dynamic range is passable, not great, the menu has weird limitations and reboots all the time, and the noise pattern is uglier. I personally find the autofocus on the xh2s very good (not as good as Sony) so I really don't care about that part. But the camera looks good though 🤣 So, specs and facts wise XH2S>FX30. I would even argue it's better than more expensive Sony full frame cameras. Unfortunately the UA-cam and influencer gods will always push for the brand that can pay most 🙃
Thank you so much for this elaborate and detailed comment! All very valid points. My mind always rationally knew the X-H2s was the smarter and (much) better option overall. Especially when owning some x-mount lenses. But I was so drawn to the Sony system to see what it's all about and to see if S-Log 3 is so good as it appears to be to me. F-Log 2 will probably give me similar results, although as I've said previously, I'm not getting the most out of F-Log 2 right now because it's pretty grainy and muddy at times... CF Express Type B is awesome, relatively affordable and just lives inside my X-H2s as it gives me so much storage. I would arguably say the IBIS on the FX30 is better from what I've seen from it on one hand and my experience with the Fuji on the other. It's really not great in my opinion. I even feel it was better on my X-S10 I had before, which sounds crazy. But for all the rest, you're spot on I think. Autofocus is indeed pretty good in video, in photo it's amazing even. Nails focus on walking subjects and is really sticky. Thank you for making me feel better about my purchase again 🤣.
Yeah, you right...mostly. 😂 Definitely, the codecs on Fuji are great and from what I see, the fuji has very sharp video quality. My xs-10 has a much sharper FullHD than my sony a7iii. The photos out of Fuji are very sharp, the xs-20 has indeed sharper image then a6700 as an example. But in photography world, when I use sony damn, i get all in focus, dark, foggy, eye, everything is in focus and focuses super fast. In video mode, Fuji is better everywhere, except the damn focus and sometimes the build quality. Drives me nuts sometimes. You literally have to use new fuji glass to come close to sony's AF. Even then, it hunts and is unreliable. If you use for cinematic videos, then mostly you use MF so its good. For events, tracking people, animals, etc. Hard time with Fuji. If you use non-native lens, God help you. It does the job but you have to be very careful with AF. Also the fuji cameras are prone to lags, errors, etc and the build quality is not up to sony. If Fuji improve the AF a lot more, oh yes, that would change a lot
Thank you for sharing your story.
I just got my fujifilm x-s20. Was saving for the camera you have and realized I can do similar or same work with the x-s20
Totally true ! but a couple features had me more at ease with this one and I had the ability to shell out the extra 1000 euros.
@jdcreatives8667 yes!! That camera is next on the radar.. liking this 1 right now.
DR isn't the same , Xs20 has more noise in shadows over 6400 Iso
I went back and forth on the same issue. Wanted to jump in to talk about f-log2 noise. Something I found super helpful is to obviously try to slightly over expose if it’s possible, or go to 3200 ISO but nothing in between. The other thing that has minimized noise in my experience is to raise the midtones instead of the shadows. The mid is where most of the detail is, and it will give you a much better result. Leave the shadow dark.
Thanks a lot for the helpful tip man. Will definitely be trying this out. Sometimes the noise is just... very there. But I haven't really been shooting at either 1250 or 3200 but probably somewhere in between in dimmer conditions... maybe this will help. I do have a feeling the shadows indeed carry the most noise. Like you said, sometimes it's perfectly fine to leave shadows completely black. It even adds to the cinematic feel in certain situations. Thanks again!
@@AntonJDCreatives no problem! I hope it works out for you!
For anyone contemplating between Fuji and Sony, I'll say that both have pros and cons like anything else, but so far, for my wedding shoots I find my Fuji XH2 more intuitive and provides more confidence in the image I'll get than my FX3.
I'm a long time Fuji fanboy and I just happened to pick up an FX3 that I got for a steal, so I'm still getting used to the FX3. I've just shot a wedding with it this weekend and I have another one coming up soon, so after that I'll make a review of actual user thoughts comparing the two for wedding films, but so far here are my thoughts on the FX3 compared to my XH2.
Fx3 doesn't have full resolution coverage on a typical monitor. I believe you may get full coverage on a small HD or atomos, but not on my portkeys. It's cropped an tiny. You can't also have both LCD and monitor display with info overlay. It's one or the other.
No one mentions how annoying the on/off switch for the FX3 is. For weddings, you have to be quick, so it's much simpler to just have the switch by the shutter button on the Fuji.
Fuji xh2 screen is much sharper and gives me more confidence in what I'm seeing is what I'll get. Also, maybe I"m used to flog, but I find it very easy to expose whereas I'm not always sure I'll get the image I'm looking for on the fx3. Something about how it shows exposure with it's metering feels off. With the fuji, I just go a touch over zero and make sure my highlights don't clip. with the FX3, sometimes it says around plus 2, but the shadows still look too dark.
So many items in the menu on the fx3. I know it's more production oriented, but feels like things are buried.
And most importantly, image quality -- from short tests, I don't see a massive difference between the two in terms of dynamic range, but I will say the FX3 does feel like it has more depth, a certain richness to it. I also really like the way the ibis works on it. Very natural feeling and what I was looking for.
I shoot my fuji's at 10,000 iso when needed and I think the grain looks nice, so it's ok. I was really hoping battery was going to be good on the fx3, but it drains quick. I can see it run down just from having it on and looking through the menu.
I also do hybrid work, so having the xh2 to take photos is also a plus.
The sharpness and full frame look of the fx3 is really nice though.
Autofocus is great, but not miles ahead of the xh2. The xh2 is quite good and much better than my xt4.
So, I'll shoot another wedding and see if I can deal with the quirks, but not being completely sure about the shots I'm getting is another stressor I don't like having on wedding days.
Again, I'm new to sony so I realize things may take time, but wanted to share with you guys who may be wondering about both systems.
Wow, really really enjoyed this in depth POV from someone who has really used both systems. Always so hard choosing something unknowingly and just off standalone reviews. I actually think you stating the AF isn't THAT much better on the Sony is worth more to me than watching a review on UA-cam. Other small things you mention on the FX3's quirks, I also didn't know. Makes me feel better about my Fuji purchase. Coincidentally I recently shot my first wedding with the X-H2S and it went quite well! AF wasn't always super reliable, especially in dimmer conditions. Still learning the camera but the footage I was able to shoot at low ISO's was great! Higher ISO's were quite grainy to my eye... Still editing that video though.
@@AntonJDCreatives happy to help! I would say autofocus in general has its limitations. Even the fx3 hunted in super low light. So know when you need/can use autofocus and when it’s is critical, use manual focus.
As for high iso noise, I find Fuji noise to be pleasing, not distracting, so it’s never bothered me, but I’m sure there are ways/software to denoise if you prefer it cleaner.
I think the biggest difference I’m noticing is the the full frame look.
That being said, our clients won’t notice the difference. As long as there’s a certain level of polish and we capture great memories, that’s all they care about.
The gear really is for us and other fellow creatives. Lol
Cheers brother!
Sorry, are you talking about XH2 or XH2s?
XH2. I don't think one would see real life differences between the xh2 and S, but that's just my thought.
Now, having used Sony more, I've completely switched to Sony for my wedding and commercial work (fx3 and a7iv). I sold all my fuji gear, but would like to pick up an x100 series for family/life documenting
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That's pretty helpful, good to know, thanks. All my gear is Fuji X, but I am not sure I like the direction they're heading. For example, I like the vintage dials on the X-T4 and X-T5, but then I shoot a lot of video, and I am not liking the ergonomics of the X-H2s, nor do I see a massive improvement in video image quality. Perhaps it's time for a switch to Sony. I'm even looking at the ZV-E1 at the moment. Philip Bloom's review is pretty compelling. Cheers.@@AtomicPixel
I was choosing between these two cameras but I chose the xs20 for my filmmaking style. Love everything about it. Nice insights👌
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I was about to do the same, but I got into a position where I was able to buy the X-H2s. The dual card slots brought me peace getting into wedding videography where a card failure is a disaster. Also the EVF gives me a pro photography camera. I would like that fr*cking red record box around the LCD you have though!
you're welcome. I totally get where you're coming from. I'm in no way filmmaking professionally with clients so I have more wiggle room to fail. For all my purposes, the xs20 is enough for me.@@AntonJDCreatives
What made you choose xs20? Im torn between that and xh2s..
@@idgafaboutbs xs20 has 6.2k, ibis, smaller body, good battery and $1000 cheaper than xh2s. These were my factors.
@@RonMiki8 very reasonable. Thanks.
What software are you using for noice reduction?
I use BM with a MBA M1, though I bought a 16GB version. Did you check if it is the RAM, CPU or GPU overloaded?
NR in Davinci or Final Cut was both a disaster. I now have bought a M2 MacBook Air 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD which it handles way better. My M1 Pro is even under orange pressure with light editing so I think pushing it to the limit for 2 years and a half has really taken a toll and it just slowed down because of constant high swap memory being used.
What settings do you have for the Fujifilm XH2s audio (for example auto or manual and if so what DB) and the DJI Mics, it sounds legit!
Hey thank you for the comment! I started using the DJI mic with the receiver plugged into my camera and basically just plugged and played, letting the db setting be where it was. I had some trouble, sometimes loud audio and sometimes quiet, which a compressor wouldn't totally fix. In this video, I actually used the transmitter as a standalone and synced up the audio in post. This is just quicker for me to get my recording going. Didn't touch the settings either! I did some processing here but still have some pops here and there and I was surprised how sensitive it was to air moving from my arms and stuff without the little fur on the mic. Definitely always gonna have it on there from now on. Still figuring it out to get it perfect but thanks for the compliment!
Have u tried V6 for the XH2S? Thoughts?
Which firmware update created the AF issues? Was it 3.0.0?
Fellow fuji shooter/UA-camr here. I shoot with xh2s as well professionally in all scenarios. What noise reduction software do you use? I use davinci noise reduction on my M1 Pro and i😢 takes nowhere near 1 hour. I would say a 10 second clip takes maybe 8-10 minutes…. Mine has 16gb of Ram maybe that helps.. Also 3200 ISO is the second gain like others said. Anything at 30 Fps or less gives you 1 extra stop of dynamic range because the sensor reads out this frame rate at 14bit 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
Hi Adnan! I have watched some of your videos in the past so thank you very much for the comment! My M1 MacBook Pro had 8gb of RAM and 256gb SSD and was super slow the past couple of months. Memory pressure was huge even with light editing so that probably had a lot to do with it. I bought a new M2 MacBook Air with 16gb of RAM and 512gb SSD and this is blazingly fast in comparison (made a video about it). So noise reduction won't be such a huge problem anymore I think (probably still slower than your Pro but that's okay). I just use the noise reduction inside Resolve and Final Cut Pro. I have tested the 3200 ISO the last couple of weeks and it does seem a lot cleaner. I don't know if it's a clear cut second native ISO like Sony uses where it's the cleanest it can be, but it certainly cleans up compared to 2500. Didn't know about the extra stop of DR in 30fps or less. Thanks again for the educational comment!
Congratulations on the baby, I've got a 12 week old, how you're finding the time to make a video I have no idea 😆😆
Thank you man, you too! I have to credit my wife for a lot of that. She supports me so much, handles our daughter and leaves me alone for a couple hours when I need to create. She even asks about it herself. Can't be any luckier. I see it's been a while since you've posted, got to get back on that train if you can! Thanks again.
I was also debating between Fuji or Sony and came to the conclusion thats Fuji for me has better texture, better color, its easier to expose, its got 2 sd cars slots opposed to the A6700 which i was looking at..i also already own Fuji glass, accessories, ect...i own the X-T5 so instead of going with sony, ill jusg go for the XH2s, or well, thats the plan. Oh did i mention its 6K insted of sonys 3K
Kind of the same train of thought here. I already had some fuji lenses and was familiar with the system. So in order for me to switch to Sony it would have to be miles better than Fuji, which I eventually just don't think it is. Sony AF and IBIS would be nice, though. The X-H2S IBIS gives me some real deal wobbles sometimes. No camera is perfect though, just like us humans.
I used XT3 and 4 before using XH2S, on those cameras I turned the NR and Sharpness to -4 in the body because it just made everything more natural and had no issues, but the same settings on XH2S I find are noisy and dull, so I use either -2 or 0 on XH2S and find it matches -4 on XT cameras I still use
Thank you for the valuable insight! I typically either don't touch the sharpness or, like you say, don't go below -2. F-log 2 gives me enough noise as is when under- or overexposed.
Interested information thinking of upgrading my fujifilm x-s10 to an H2
You won't be disappointed I think. You can create some dope stuff with the X-S10 though. How about the X-S20? You don't get dual card slots and slower speeds but other than that it's pretty packed. Unless you need the 40MP resolution of course.
I don't have a lot of experience with my XH2-s but the channel cinedailes talks about shooting F-Log and I'm pretty sure he talks about how you should be overexposing in F-log 2
Yes I've seen that video but eventually they conclude you should not really overexpose Flog2. I've been experimenting with overexposing it for a while now and I'm sort of conflicted whether this helps or not. 1 to 2 stops over is definitely too much, since then you lose the highlights which you can't get back. For me right now, I try to be down the middle or 0.3 over but not much more. Still struggling with F-Log2 though 😅. Thank you for the comment!
Ran into your Portugal video and came to see your latest video! I think Fuji sensors capture such beautiful colors - the fuji x-h2s seems to me a solid choice in the APSC world for sure. Btw I make short films, I’ve just filmed one about a young painter in Sweden, if you don’t mind I’d greatly appreciate it if you checked it out Anton, thank you! :)
Thank you so much for the comment and support man! Bro, I just went to your profile and your "England in G minor" trailer started playing... Those colors and 'cinematicness' are wild. Then that documentary just keeps that same look and tells a great story. I mean his head in that water, how beautiful can such a shot be? Amazing. Instantly subbed, so cool you've watched some of my video's. Thank you.
thanks a ton for your kind words!! Keep up the good work@@AntonJDCreatives
Great video! Like many have already said here, it is a crippling decision to make especially when you can only afford one camera. The many viewpoints shared in the video and then the comments were very helpful. I just wanted to add that when I think of upgrading, selling is out of question. I have a Fuji X-T30 and I'm looking to upgrade but selling is never an option. Where I come from, I never got a hand me down camera so keeping a camera that I can pass down to my kids is always at the back of my mind and is an important factor to consider while making the purchase.
Thank you very much for your comment and kind words. What a great and loving way of looking at your old camera like that. Maybe I should think about that as well. I would love to share my love for documenting moments with my daughter. Thanks again 🙏
@@AntonJDCreatives Haha I had forgotten about this comment. I got my XH2S 2 days back :)
The noise should clean significantly at iso 2000 when shooting LOG, at least on the XT3 it does.
ISO should clean up a lot at 3200 on the X-H2s, and as far as I have seen it really does. But it doesn't feel like a real second native ISO either.
Was in a similar dilemma recently and after almost A year of use ,i have only recently fell in love with the Fuji xh2s its a allround fantastic camera and wouldnt change this for a fx30 anymore.
I've been loving the footage at times, and struggling with it at other times. I've been experiencing some image quality issues (banding, pixelating blotches and holograms in the shadows when shooting low light). Probably will make a short video about these issues as I want to know if anybody else is experiencing them. Not really thrilled to be sending it off for warranty so I want to make sure it's really a problem with the camera/sensor. Other than that + the AF I think the camera is indeed pretty great! Thank you for your comment and forgive my lateness in my response, daily life sometimes gets a hold of me and keeps me off my YT journey.
@@AntonJDCreatives hey ,that is interesting ,i have not noticed that in particular however i have not done much lowlight with it ,looking forward to the video on that ,ill check on my side once you have posted if i have the similar issues .
I feel with you. I paid 2750 and do I regret? Yes and no. If I had the money I would go with the A7S3.
Kind of in the same boat, sometimes a little regret but then 5 minutes later pretty happy with the purchase. We just need to be grateful that we are in a position to be able to afford such cameras (but of course we always want more). That was pretty far away for me 2 years ago. A lot of people dream of a 2.500 dollar camera. A7S3 is pretty bomb, though...
@@AntonJDCreatives what I really are the 7 custom modes
after buying Fuji xs20 I have the same feelings ( and actually the same green/blow color spot like is on your video at the left corner )
But there is smth I dont how to explain it but there is smth that brings magic to this camera)
Yes , on Sony everything looks more clear , more technically right , but I prefer more Fuji look in photo and video .
I don't know which color spot you mean but I'm sure you are right. I struggle with getting crispy images probably due to weak AF at times. But a lot of poeple say what you are hinting at, which is that filmic "magic" image compared to other brands like Sony. Never touched a Sony camera so I can't speak for myself. I just believe all the people that had/have used both systems and prefer the Fuji look so I feel good about my purchase 😂. Thank you for the comment!
@@AntonJDCreatives I have both systems now ) And yes , Fuji is more like Blackmagic , but Sony more clear and more for everyone . With Sony its easier to film wedding , Fuji not so)
The A7S3 only looks clean because it doesn't allow you to disable the heavy in camera noise reduction. If you shoot RAW on the A7S3 be prepared for a lot of noise.
Use any cinema camera Venice, Alexa or RED and there will always be noise. If I don't want any noise on the Alexa I over expose by 1-2 stops. 800 iso is base (most even distribution of highlights and shadows), but if I want no noise in a dimly lit situation I'd shoot at 200 iso. You are essentially getting two stops less highlight detail but getting cleaner shadows. It's never really an issue with the Alexa as you have so much highlight room, not as much with other cameras.
I mean the nice thing with the FX6 (or RAW with the A7S3) is that at 12,800 iso you could overexpose a lot of dimly lit situations and get a cleaner image. But exposing normally at 12,800 is going to have a lot of noise.
I still hate Sony SOC colors though. Canon and Fuji look so much nicer out of camera. I just got the FX30 and was kind of surprised how bad it looked without grading.
Thank you for this elaborate comment and sharing your experience! It seems like you have quite some experience in the field and shot with the Alexa yourself, so you make me feel better about m purchase again 😆. In camera noise reduction affects the sharpness as well as far as I know. But the footage I see online from the Sony camera's (FX's and A7s3) looks so crispy and sharp while also having very little noise, so that's why I'm intrigued. That said, I have yet to get my X-H2s to look as crispy as footage from it online too, so that's probably on me. Thanks again!
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All these cameras use Sony sensors. The Pocket 6k and the FX30 is the same Sony variant sensor. The difference is processing. Sony uses noise reduction and then sharpening. The FX3 sensor is natively only 4k so it resolves a lot less detail then the XH2S. To be honest the higher end the camera is the more noisy and softer it'll look as there is no internal processing.
The XH2S has more dynamic range than the FX30 though. It has a 14bit readout, where as the FX30 is 12 bit. I don't know why Sony didn't use the same sensor for the FX30, probably so they could sell it for cheaper. The XH2S processor is also faster so you have less rolling shutter and it can do almost full sensor 120fps. Open gate and internal prores are also great.
The Sony auto focus is next level but the sensor itself in the FX30 is meh. It's not terrible by any means but the XH2S is pretty amazing.
I prefer a softer organic look. To be fair doing noise reduction is post as well as sharpening makes your renders take a long time. Easy for big productions not so much for small ones. I'd rather live with some noise then be forced into the processed DSLR look. But that's just me.
I have owned the XS-20 as well as 3 other Fuji cameras and I’m now on Sony a6700. I can confirm all of your Fuji complaints. I found that autofocus was actually worse on xs20 compared to my xs10 and have seen others confirm this. Fan boys will make excuses but I’m not new to Fuji and the autofocus is a real issue for video. The Sony is significantly better and dynamic range is roughly the same. With the phantom luts being out for both systems, I can get equal image quality with all the Sony advantages.
Never touched a Sony camera so I can't speak for their camera's. But compared to my Canon M50 which was my first camera years ago, the autofocus is definitely (much) worse. I can also confirm that the autofocus on my X-S10 felt better than the X-H2s (at times). Sometimes it seems like the footage coming out of the X-H2s is not that sharp or mushy too, but I'm starting to think it could be the autofocus being slightly off here or there giving me that feeling. I still own my GH5 and that camera is much crisper, but I always use manual focus on that camera. Maybe I should test out manual focus on the X-H2s and see what's what. The A6700 is also a super appealing package to me. FX30 sensor, Sony AF and small inconspicuous camera. How is it treating you so far? Thanks for the comment!
@@AntonJDCreatives The a6700 is awesome so far. It took a bit to get used to the workflow but the image coming out is awesome. The only downside for me is not having those awesome jpegs straight out of camera. The image doesn’t look as good on the screen also but when you get it into Lightroom it’s perfect.
@@AntonJDCreatives I’m starting my own channel and I’ll have a full review of the a6700 so I’ll let you know when I post that.
@@ShaneAndersonProductions The image doesn’t look as good on the screen also but when you get it into Lightroom it’s perfect. Oh yes , I know this pain , lol ) That's why I prefer shot on Fuji cuz . I found photos and video on Fuji are more colorful , it looks like Raw files have more bit , but I know that isn't true . The same about video, Sony has so techically right look and Fuji more artist .( comparing xs20 and Sony a7IV)
Hello, about "noise" - I guess you are doing something wrong with the settings. Iris? Shooter speed? ISO? Focus hunting on Fuji- it's not about the camera it's about Lenses -it's well known.
Definitely not setting related. Shutter at 1/48 and ISO 1250 are pretty much fixed when shooting in daylight F-Log2, so I adjust exposure with two things remaining being aperture and VND and making sure my exposure is correct. Shots could be a tad under or over but that shouldn't really be a problem to recover in post without having a lot of noise. Just something I noticed and I don't know why it occurs. Sometimes I think I have a faulty X-H2s unit, then the day after it appears to be a lot better. Weird. I mostly use the Sigma 18-50 so while not a Fuji native lens, still third party native and should perform well. Thank you for your comment!
@@AntonJDCreatives Dear Anton, I thought you were shooting in low light..Your situation is very strange. There must be no noise in the footage from daylight shooting! I have a strong suspicion that it's a faulty camera or lens. Also, you mentioned "..Shots could be a tad under or over .. ' How strongly you are doing this? Footage has to be exposed just correct. My extra reminders: 1. Higher ISO generates noise. You just must keep your ISO at a minimum letting more real light (information) come throw the lens. The native minimum ISO of this camera is ISO 125 so you have to keep on it, especially when you shooting FLOG! (In F-Log mode is probably another number, but keep it at a minimum). 2. Open. max your aperture - let the light come to the sensor 3. Reduce light With ND if is too bright.
Fuji is so dependent on lenses and autofocus settings… maybe one day they’ll get on Sony level. Still prefer the image tho
I expected the AF to be better than it is on the X-H2s, should have known better I guess 😆. Sony will probably remain the AF king. I just keep holding on to the thought that, like you, almost everybody prefers the Fuji image over the Sony. Never held a Sony camera so I couldn't know for myself. Thank you for the comment!
they should've added af touch tracking. such an omission..
Breaks my heart everyday. We are sending people into space but a 89-year old photography gear company can't add touch tracking in 2023.
And "red box" when recording a video. Still waiting for it since the X-T5 was released.
@@infantfrontender6131 my Fuji xs20 has it from stock
Both great cameras. I've been tempted by the FX30 as it's a great camera, killer AF and nice features. But for me, the Fuji wins out because of CFB cards are half the cost of CFA, 6K open gate means not having to flip the camera to shoot vertically for intelligence challenged clients who think shooting vertically is a wise idea, Fuji colors are far superior to the FX30 colors, Internal ProRes rules. I know the Sony has superior AF but I just bought a set of X Mount Cine Primes for my X-T3s and I own a few Fuji XF lenses, so like you, already owning Fuji lenses would mean starting over with E Mount lenses.
If I was in the Sony FX ecosystem, I'd buy the FX30 but I'm not and objectively, owning and loving shooting with three X-T3s, the XH-2S is the best fit for me, by far I know the AF isn't as good and probably the IBIS isn't as well but the other factors are more important to me. I am weaning myself off of using AF anyways so not a huge factor, I really don't like AF, although it's handy for events and run & gun. But I used to shoot S16 and spent a good portion of my career NOT having AF and in most situations, AF kind of sucks, it always looks robotic and hunts, even on the Sonys at times (I rent and shoot the FX3 and FX6/9 often) I'll have to get up to speed using Flog 2, but Flog 1 is a breeze to use.
Unlike most younger shooters, I'm not obsessed with squeaky clean "noiseless" images, those just resemble soulless digital video to me, having shot shot a ton of film over my career, I kind of like grain and noise if it's not too overbearing. That's always been my issue with REDs, they look good to me but they look digital, unlike the ALEV sensor in the Arris. I find the Fujis have a similar vibe to me as the Arri sensor and the grain is usually pretty nice.
It seems like you have a lot of experience in the field using various cameras, so I rate comments like this very highly. All really valid points. I have an image quality issue with my X-H2s though, and last weekend it became pretty apparent again. It's a kind of banding or blotchy situation in the darker parts of my image. This is why the camera hasn't clicked for me as of yet. In some shoots everything goes well, and then the next shoot this issue ruins numerous shots. I'm going to make a video about it this week to see if somebody has experienced this as well or what the causes of this issue could be. I'm dreading to send it off to warranty. Thank you for your elaborate comment !
@@AntonJDCreatives I’d like to see your take on this image issue too. First I’ve heard of this possibly being an XH-2S issue.
I don’t know I would 2:03 say the complete opposite, there is something about particularly the cinematic Sony stuff out there that feels overly digital and lifeless. I shoot xt-3 and I would still prefer the footage that comes out over the fx30, and so much more fun to shoot, I have both cameras btw. Didn’t buy the Sony tho, and wouldn’t
I like crispy and fairly sharp images though, but maybe if you put them side by side I would go for the more organic one like you. There is some amazing X-T3 footage to be found online so I'm sure you can definitely still do great things with it. Glad to hear from you, who has both, that you are team Fuji. Thanks for the comment!
The noise in F-Log 2 has been specifically designed to a) look filmic and b) be absolutely easy to clean in post. NR is a constant thing in all pro workflows, so I'd say you should get rid of that 8GB M1 and buy yourself a decent Mac.
I just bought a M2 MacBook Air 15" with 16gb RAM and 512 SSD and it seems to be handling it way better. I think putting my M1 Pro under a lot of memory pressure for 2 and a half years has really tore and slowed it down. Even light editing on it right now is stuttering with memory pressure being in the orange.
@@AntonJDCreatives I'm glad you are doing better but I don't really see how a fanless M2 laptop can handle NR better than a properly cooled M1 Pro. Unless you are referring to the Macbook Pro M1, which is different than the M1 Pro Macbook Pro. God, I hate Apple's current naming of pro chips lol.
If you indeed have 8GB M1 Macbook Pro and then switch to the M2 Air with 15", 16GB and 512GB SSD the jump will be noticeable thanks to memory alone. However, I'd still argue that for NR purposes, the M2 Air is rather lackluster. I'd suggest to have a favorite setting for NR as a preset and add it right before exporting.
Cheers and thank you for your content!
Sell that Mac right now and have someone build you a pc
Haha for the price I am always telling myself what a moron I am for always buying apple when you can have a massive big boy windows laptop for a fraction of the price. But always used mac, iPhone, edit most of my stuff on Final Cut and make my own hiphop music on Logic Pro as well so I guess it's just the way it is for me...
that microphone is better when you clip it on you
I know, still figuring out the DJI mics to get the best result possible. Thanks for your input
@@AntonJDCreatives thanks for a civil response. I have a cheaper version also clip on and they rock as long as you are wearing a collar. I did grab a nice shotgun mic from woot not long ago that really sounds good too. For talking head I don’t even need a clip on mic
I appreciate the honesty, but the Sony is only mentioned, not used for comparison. And it seems you're not completly sold on the Fuji. I get it.
I just wanted to point out my path of thoughts between these two camera's with ultimately going Fuji and sharing whether or not I regret the decision. At times I do, but if I went Sony it probably wouldn't have been perfect either. You can find tons of comparisons on UA-cam, where there is never a cut clear answer as well in my opinion. Nothing in this world is perfect, which is probably a good thing 😆.Thank you for the comment!
I sell my fx30 to buy a XT3, the F Log is so much better, no regrets, i think the XH2S is far sueprior
In many ways it certainly is. I ended up buying the FX30 too but for very different reasons.
Just get Lumix S5 Mark ii fam
Seriously considered it since I have the GH5 and I love the footage coming out of it along with grading v-log. But if I was going to be buying expensive full frame glass I only wanted to do this for a Sony FX3.
I wish to buy S5xii for wedding videography. How is the auto focus ?
It's good on the mark ii @@saroshchothia5021
Who in their sanity uses log for wedding? In that kind of jobs you use footage straight out of camera and make the less edit and corrections as possible.
Guess I'm insane. I really like having that blank log canvas, but it sure is a lot more work! I definitely wouldn't use it for every wedding so I'm with you there!
1:51 that focus was :(
I know, it's definitely not perfect!
Привет! Видео хорошее. Ты ленивый, нужно показывать свою работу, не нужно болтать языком.
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Lol just sell ur mac and buy a windows pc on occasion for the same price u gonna have 10x times more power. Especialy the rtx 3080 grafic card price is very low at the moment.
You will probably be very right here. I've just been an apple user my whole life and hate using windows every time I have to. Personal preference and price wise there is obviously no comparison! thanks for your comment.
haha i understand! U gonna make enough cash with the xh2s for sure, this is the best camera i ever bought and had plenty of happy customers with it😉@@AntonJDCreatives
Sony for video. Fuji for photo
In an ideal world this would be perfect for me, FX3 for video and my X-H2S for photo (or X-H2/X-T5). I don't have a donkey who shits money, unfortunately...
@@AntonJDCreativesif you ever want to swap your XH2s for my XH2, I’m here! Lol. XH2 is great too, but I’m doing mostly video now and want that rolling shutter performance and 14bit Flog2 :)
AF is bad , ibis is bad , that's it .
AF isn't necessarily bad, it's not up to par with Canon though (personally haven't used Sony yet). IBIS again isn't that bad, but then again isn't up to par with my GH5. You give and take with each camera brand. Thank you for the comment!
@@AntonJDCreatives comparing with other brands I mean.