Sony a6700 vs Fuji X-S20 || Who Will Be CROWNED Crop Sensor KING??
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0:00 Intro
0:23 What We’re Covering
1:00 Lenses
1:50 Overview
3:00 About Both Cameras
4:33 Price
4:49 SD Cards
6:51 Camera Bodies
9:40 Ports
10:47 Timebolt
11:59 Usability
14:25 Image Quality
15:14 Frame Rates and Resolution
16:02 Open Gate
17:48 Color Profiles
18:40 Stabilization
19:57 Vlog/Native Audio
21:03 Photography
21:39 Low Light
22:41 Autofocus
23:33 Conclusion
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The amount of work and effort behind this video is astounding. Amazing job!
Thank you Dr Wasim. I appreciate that you recognize the front end thought/effort/research/testing that went into this one. It was fun but challenging.
@@thefilmalliance Astounding work on the production quality yes, but way too little actual research done beforehand. I'm not trying to be rude, but so many of you UA-camrs are way too quick at making the video itself before actually learning how the stuff you're making the video about works. You DID put an amazing effort into the video production itself, but you didn't spend enough time trying getting the actual foundation (information) right. Try the other way around.
As just a casual shooter, it’s hard to beat Fuji in my opinion. I don’t shoot raw and do not want to do any post processing what so ever, so the film simulations that Fuji provide is really fun with very little effort. I wonder why other companies don’t provide more profiles? Sony has S-cinetone which is nice, but even just 5 more useable fun profile for casual shooting would do wonders for 95% of casuals camera enjoyers.
Exactly. ...."casual photographers"...thats the key difference. If I want to have fun and shoot my family I would take fuji. If I have a client, especially and event, wedding, etc I would pick sony. I have both systems and trust me....I am afraid to take fuji to shoot a wedding😂😂
I can’t agree more. Give us something like Eterna or a cinema profile.
Great point. I would like to go hobby filming with the Fuji but when it comes to client work, it will only be Sony Acam and Bcam
I Have the 6700 but would consider myself a casual user I would have loved to have films simulation and for that reason for a casual shooter the XS 20 would be the way to go I do intend on leveling up and being more than just a casual shooter Messing with raw and S log so I am still content but it would be nice to get film like pictures straight out of camera
This is very subjective. I have both system and for casual I still prefer to bring my Sony over the Fuji because it is more reliable and compact.
Switched from Sony system to Fuji. I still have a lot to learn, but I'm very happy with my choice. I think the Sony is excellent if you have to do a lot of post-processing afterwards. If you want to get almost ready-made material from the camera and use it immediately, then Fuji has won.
The X-S20 footage just looked more pleasing to the eye in most cases
Me too. I can't get over how he was heaping praise on the sony, while the fuji was clearly better.
@@donwilliams6266 yeah the colours are insane on the fuji, like some sort of LUT is applied to all of it
You can shoot open gate 3:2 video with the XS20. That's 6k instead of 4k. That alone is a big win for video or cinematography
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I'm more of a Sony user so probably the a6700! I've made loads of Zv1 stuff so I'm more used to it 👍🏿, recently made a film with it and it's super easy to use
Sony for most parts with an clear added advantage of being weather sealed but what's alarming are those overheating results for country like mine where temps would be 30°c/86°f during the day for most of the year getting even 15 mins of outdoor video might be difficult.
That’s awesome. I agree. I think it’s easier to use with better stabilization
I know what you mean. Have you tried the Ulanzi cooling fan? I’ve been hearing good things. I’ll have to make a vid about it
i have been using their lens@@thefilmalliance
Really appreciate your informative comparison. I decided to get the Fujifilm X-S20 after waiting for both to release the newer models & been absolutely loving it. I'm just a regular Joe, who runs a trucking company & always like photography since my 1st camera a Yashica loan from the University. Thks for all you do, "ESPECIALLY " being unbiased in your analysis of other systems even though you a Sony shooter. Blessings
That was a nice comment. I don’t blame you on the X-S20. It’s a fun little camera
Love the super straightforward introduction at the beginning!
Thank you, normally I try to be a little more creative but we had a lot of ground to cover
Thanks, professional and awesome delivery as usual! Your level of professionalism is super pro brother! Thanks again.
The side-by-side camera brand's delivery speed, pace and overall presentation were excellent! Good content quality and I can imagine a lot of effort went into preparing this video, enough for me to surely appreciate.
Thanks man, appreciate it and glad you enjoyed it
The video I needed...totally satisfied with the way you presented everything 👍
12:25 This is one of those little things that doesn't seem like much until it really gets in the way when it matters. It's one thing that I really appreciate about my a7iv: when the articulating screen is folded out and tilted the EVF sensor is automatically disabled.
Exactly! It’s the real world usage that highlights this stuff. It could be a decision maker for someone. I love the A7IV
I have an xs20 and what i did to resolve this issue was customize the button to the right of the evf to be a toggle between the display, evf, or sensor.@@thefilmalliance
@@DaJayDMon the X-H2s there’s a button by the viewfinder that does that by default. On my a7iv I turned off the EVF for that same reason and now I can’t be bothered to dig through the menu to turn it back on 😂
The X-S20 definitely has more of a filmic look. I really like it.
Impressive production value. I can see you put a lot of effort into this.
Awesome comparison and thanks for all the hard work put into this video.
Thank you for that. It was a fun/challenging edit
Finally, a superior content (beside superior visualizing effect as always).
For beginners, I might lean towards recommending sony over fuji. I use the xs20 but it works for me because I've not been pampered with sony autofocusing powers so fuji felt sufficient from my previous nikon dslr and olympus camera. However, I already had the pleasure of trying out sony auto focusing system from A1 and a7iv and it is alien technology (ridiculous!). I'm not selling my fuji though, love the film sims and flexibility of having a huge community sharing their recipes.
You got me at the end with the colors and open gate. When you show the "straight out of camera" material, I think the fuji colors are bolder. I had a6400 before and I like sony, but yeah I think the xs20 makes it
I am a Fuji user and lately I shortly tested a6700. My findings were better IBIS on A6700 and option of Catalyst Browse is such a great feature. I will take that extra step and ditch gimbal totally. Autofocus was another big one. People are saying that Fuji is catching up but nope they are not. With Fuji you always have that little devil on the back of your head that is saying "maybe this shot is out of focus or maybe not, maybe you just lost this crucial moment of your beloved kid blowing candles on their second birthday party". It was such a liberating feeling when I tested A6700 and I knew that everything will be perfectly in focus especially in video. Colors for photos it's a tie where with RAWs I easily got great colors from both. Colors in video I preferred Fuji by a lot but I totally don't know how to setup Sony. I find it strange that you mention magenta cast on Sony (is that in S-log specifically ?). My experience is still yellow/green cast in Sony while Fuji many times have too much magenta especially on skin tones (perfect example of this is in latest video of Camera Conspiracies about Viltrox 75 f1.2 - he compares Fuji to A7SIII). As mentioned in this video you really need to be cautious of highlights in Fuji as they are really easy to blow out. Fuji is more ergonomic but I really love smaller rangefinder style of Sony plus weather sealing. Rolling shutter, 4k120, 4k60 with no crop and photo/video switch are also big pluses for A6700. LCD screen is a big plus for Fuji though - makes shooting experience much nicer in daylight. Although I love Fujis colors and fun factor I think I will switch to A6700 or A7C II. Autofocus being the biggest reason.
Hi
I own a 6300 alpha and with few lenses ( am not a professional), is t worth switching to fuji xs20? Or 6700?
@@shephyk.u2573 It really depends what you are looking for in a camera. If you shoot stills or do some video as well. Do you shoot people, street, sports. What kind of lenses you already have. I can tell you on my example that I shoot X-E3 + 35 f1.4 since 6 years. Now I have kids which are very demanding for autofocus and wanted to do some video as well. Those are the only reasons why I look for an upgrade, especially video as X-E3 without IBIS is not very well suited for this task. Apart from that I wouldn't change as sensor technology shows nothing new. Meaning you won't gain great improvements in image quality. Usually it is better to invest into lenses and travel unless current body is limiting you severely.
Agree I don’t trust Fuji AF.
@@shephyk.u2573better buy lenses
Just go a7cii of you switch
I knew this was going to be an epic comparison, and you, Sir, delivered 😀 Great video and thank you very much for the work. I think I am going to stick to Sony for now, I sold my 6600 recently and will switch to the 6700. The new somewhat more organized menu, the ability to import luts, better stabilization plus the Catalyst Browse option are my main reasons for the switch.
Excellent video! Appreciate the level of detail with side by side comparison. No need to watch any other reviews on these two cameras. Thanks
man that was great! One of the best your videos ever!
Wow, thanks!
Absolutely bang on it!! The video I wanted to see. 🎉
Hey Joe, Thank you for that. I just want to share with you all what I have learned while I’ve had the X-s20 camera for a month.
Great comparison and both are great tools. Which one is the best one depends on your own ecosystem. If you have a full frame Sony then you can actually mixed things and it will look pretty much the same.
Hi Gary, I can’t agree more. I think one Sony lens would dictate purchasing the a6700 rather than selling it and picking up a Fuji ecosystem
As an X100F user I prefer Fuji colors for photos, but for video the Sony wins hands down - better autofocus, better stabilization, better framerates.
Hi Tim, well said. I’m not Fuji user but it was a lot of fun to use
I've been researching this for months and this is by far the most comprehensive video on it - thanks! The side by side footage makes me lean Sony, but then the open gate + simulations got me leaning Fuji. Such a hard choice between these 2.
Thanks for the compliment, appreciate it! I put a lot of work into it, hoping it helps people out. Good luck on your big decision!
Thank you very much for your work ❤️👍
Well presented...much awaited video...thank u😊
Thank you, which did you prefer?
Awesome video.I basicly want a light setup for traveling, that would do better photos than my old Note 10+ (I have no other cameras), so I was leaning more towards sony a6700 with sigma 18-50 lens, but after watching this video started wondering about xs-20. In my local market sony (only body) basicly is like 320 EUR more than a fuji xs20. So should I give in and buy a fuji with a same lens combo, or sony a6700 is worth it those extra 300EUR?
This is a really good comparison. Thank you!
Thanks Steven, I had fun with it
Great comparison! I switched from Fuji to Sony earlier this year; based on my experience with both, this comparison was well-thought. Currently own an FX30 and am getting the A6700 soon as a B cam.
For me, it came down to which system made it easier to tackle the projects I was starting to work on, which is now primarily lots of video stuff. I don't think Fuji is awful for video, but after using some Sony gear I really loved how their products integrated with my workflow, especially with the current lineup allowing for integrating LUTs into the cameras.
Your videos have helped me a lot in making decisions with gear, and I hope this one helps people pick between these two great cameras!
Thanks for taking the time to input your experience. Yes, I agree with everything you said. The lut import feature is super nice and now you’ll be able to do it on 2 cameras so colors will be on point
I have an FX3 & a ZV-E1 but bought an X-T5 for stills (the X-S20 was not out or I would have got that instead). The Fuji stills experience its second to none. Not only can you shoot with the gorgeous simulations, but if you shoot in RAW you can apply simulations after the fact on your computer. But I dislike the video out of the X-T5. It is too sharp (like the 4k on the A7IV); I just love - for video - the inky, organic look from the FX3/ZV-E1 (& AzS3/FX6) sensor. Sony for video & Fuji for stills! Awesome video BTW; just so much value here (as there always is with your videos). Thank you !
Yes, I agree about the film simulations
I agree, Fuji X is great on video but not as satisfying as the Sony FX3 or 6. However I tried recently the Fuji GFX100II on various photo and video shoots.. After the first few shots I just immediately fell in love with the camera. I very very highly recommend it, especially if you have the ecosystem to support it ! If not, Red, Canon or Sony is probably the way to go.
Very helpful and unbiased video...
Alway giving such quality content!!
Thanks man!
Went for the A6700, extremely happy. Never looking back.
Good choice
perfect review. thank you👍
Great video . Nice comparison. As a Fuji shooter I can say it was unbiased .
That’s great, thanks for letting me know. I really tried to stay middle of the road
Great video! Both wonderful cameras, but I disagree about them being close when it comes to specs. Here are the notable advantages of each from my understanding. According to this, I’d say it isn’t as close as it may seem
XS20 ($1,299):
-Shoots 4k DCI 24/30/60, and 6k 24/30
-6k Open Gate recording
-Shoots True 24 frames per second
-Has ProRes Raw recording output
-Nearly 3x the burst capability (30fps v 11fps)
-16bit raw files (stills) v a6700’s 14bit.
-Uncompressed RAW shooting (non existent on the sony)
-*Automatic* Subject Detection (birds, planes, bikes, cars, insects, people, dogs, etc)
-Compatible with fuji’s cooling fan attachment
-Built in flash
-80% higher resolution LCD
-50% more battery life (which is a huge difference in the field)
-Premium APSC lenses
-Has a joystick
-$100 less
A6700 ($1,399):
-4k 120 (although at a sensor readout smaller than m4/3)
-No crop 4k 60
-Able to use Sony’s fullframe lenses
-Focus breathing compensation
-Autoframing in video
-Import LUTs
-Better autofocus performance
Is the fuji 4k60 with no crop like 6700
@@ShajiCee nope! Thanks for reminding me. Added that to the list of the sony’s advantages
Fuji's buffer and shutter speed is way better vs Sony.
where I live(Turkey) sony a6700 is 1750 USD, fuji x-s20 is 1230 USD. Huge deciding factor.
@@zddddddben de bunu dusunuyorum.Adamlardaki gibi 100 dolar degil fark.Ama xs20 de stokta görünmüyor.
Really loves your efort to make this beautiful and helpful video.. Godbless u man
Great video! I've been looking at new and used APS-C cameras. I'd be very interested in comparing mounts and lenses. One of the things I've always heard from photographers is they wish they knew more about lenses. Thanks!
Wonderful video, they are both great cameras
One of my go-to’s is to just dive into this stuff, figure it out, and then share it with you. Thank you
there's a button right beside the EVF meant for switching between EVF and LCD
Thank you
most useful feature of xs20 is 10bit 422 in 6.2k opengate and 6700 is the clear image zoom with tracking and 4k 10bit 422. Its sad that no reviewer mentioned the updated clear zoom in details.
what u mean updated?
Any idea regarding the dual gain iso when using flog and flog 2?!
Xt4 for example has a second gain iso that kicks in at iso 2000 and cleans up the noise pattern
In xt5 and xh2s when using flog 2 the second base iso kicks in at iso 2500 and cleans up the noise about 70%
Can you confirm please if this is available in xs20?
Fuji kinda drops the ball on this matter for some reason it's not even in the manual ?!
Great video, I just subscribed! I like how you speak, and you come from a creator point of view instead of a gear review, which I like because it sounds more real. Some gear review channels hype up features too much so it gives you the idea that you need it but in real life it affects your shooting experience just a little.
I would choose the a6700 because the weather sealing is so important when you are traveling. The last thing you want is to be in a good location and not being able to shoot.You have to make the best of it when you travel because you may never be back for better weather conditions.
It was surprising to see the difference in sharpness though, it's a bit concerning, but I guess you only notice it if you zoom in a lot or print big.
Thank you. I agree with you. The weather sealing is huge! I’m a huge fan of the a6700
Why did they drop the flash on the A6700? I love it on my A6500, i use it to bounce the light when indoors.
THIS is how a comparison is s'pose to be made! Very good!
I'd kill for either one of those cams lol
the lonely overlander
Great video. I watched it on the big screen with my new Meta Quest 3. It was either that or buy the sigma 10-18mm but it had mixed reviews. Ha I think both cameras are great. Fuji’s menu and stabilization need some work. Hoping they add some things they put in the new GFX like touch tracking and video tools. I prefer Fuji for photos because of film recipes.
Haha that made me laugh. On the big screen you will see all of my mistakes. I agree with everything you said. Touch tracking in a firmware update would be huge
Recently watched your ZV-1 video and took onbaord your advice - great video as always
Thank you, I love the ZV-1
What is the conclusion about high ISO? Who performs better?
Thank you for demonstrating the amazing capabilities of both cameras. New DSLRs are so good, it's hard to go wrong with either Sony or Fujifilm.
There wasn't any DSLR cameras in the video?
Hello Sir. First of all, such an awesome video and presented very nicely. Kudos to that. I own a A6700 and I love it to max. The dynamic range and its capabilities are second to none in the aps-c world. Now looking at the Fujifilm, the colors is what that astounds me. The Black is actually Black, whereas Sony is a bit greyish. Also in the Log format Fujifilm had better flat profile, as you mentioned the Sony had a bit of Magenta. Autofocus Sony wins hands down. Overall I love Sony but the Colors in Fujifilm is mind blowing. This is the first time I seeing a depth review on Fujifilm. The price range is within my limit, so I am thinking I shall buy a second camera to have this Fuji experience.
Fuji’s menu system is the easiest you can use. You didn’t even need to go into the menu to turn off the EVF they have a button right by it to switch from LCD to EVF
Dang, thanks for telling me
Thank you for this comparison. I’m a Fuji shooter but have been thinking of upgrading my X-T20 for better video. I’ve come close to buying the X-S20 but have held off at the last minute. Still looking at the 6700 and maybe even the A7Cii.
A lot of work comparing these two camera. For me very educational as I didn’t know about the S20 except for a few days ago. I’ve been looking only at the 6700 for weeks. I’m attracted to it for the focusing and software. I’ve owned an X-T4 so I’m familiar with Fuji. Thanks for your comparison, I’m sure I’ll be happy with the Sony.
Thanks Steven, yes you will be happy with Sony. There are so many lenses to choose from. It makes it a really nice portable camera although Fujis sure are fun
Thank you for this great video. Amazing job.
Just fyi, Fujifilm Announced Major Kaizen Firmware Updates for X-S20 (And some other models as well): "Touch to track autofocus in video."
Thanks for the info!
Great video 👍
Thanks for that. One of my go-to’s is to just dive into this stuff, figure it out, and then share it with you
This is incredible! In the sharpness comparison in photography, X-trans actually defeated the Bayer sensor. I‘d like to confirm with you, are you sure they both have accurate focusing? Have you taken a few more shots to confirm the focusing accuracy? If possible, could you share some raw files? Thank you.
My point is that Fuji is sharper not because Sony wasn't on focusing. Please let me know, thank you.
Youll get a like for the production value alone. Takes a lot of time and effortto finalise productionand post. 👍⭐⚙️📸
Much appreciated, thank you for the encouragement. Yes this was a challenging one.
@@thefilmalliance most people don't realise how much time, planning and narrating it takes to produce a high quality video
I know it. Thank you for taking the time to say it
@@thefilmalliance How much time do you spent on scripting and b-roll prodiuction?
Great comparison. Thanks!! I have the X-S20, upgraded from the X-S20 and I also own the X-H2.
Menu issues: I add those difficult to find menu items to the MY menu slot at the bottom of the menu list. Don't know if Sony has this feature.
AF: Sony wins hands down if for the simple fact that Fuji separates face/eye detection from subject detection. I have to customise a button to switch between them. Fuji has auto subject detection but only in fully automatic mode. Perhaps this will change in a firmware update. The X-S20 has the best AF of all Fuji cameras.
Bottom line from the comparisons I've seen: Sony for AF, Fuji for image quality and the film simulations.
Ah ha thanks for telling me, I love Fuji cams
Hi can you tell me which camera to buy as my first fuji camera? xs20 or xh2?
@@ancient3186 Depends on budget and purpose. The X-H2 is a weatherproof workhorse. However, you'll be dealing with 40mp files. That means you'll also need more disk storage space. The X-S20 is more than capable of doing what the X-H2 can in MOST respects.
The only real drawback I have for the X-S20 is lack of weatherproofing. I like that it's smaller.
I now have both and it would be difficult to say which one I would sell. I USE the X-s20 more.
Hope that helps.
Not sure if anyone solved your problem about the computer reading the camera. I ran into the same issue: In the fuji settings - menu > network/usb setting > CONNECTION MODE. Default is set to webcam or something. It needs to be switched to USB RAW/BACKUP RESTORE and it should be visible in the computer as an external drive.
Thank you for telling me. Now why would that be the default setting??
XH2s is the flagship apsc camera that everybody sleeps on, but then at that price point, casual users would rather go full-frame, and pro users would rather go Sony.
Especially xh2s is more expensive than Nikon ZF
Good review, especially knowing that you knew very little on the Fujifilm. Cameras today are all excellent. In short, I think that for me Sony feels like a fine tool while the Fuji feels like a camera that gives you the inspiration to go out and be creative.
Thank you for that, Your conclsion couldnt have said it any better.
yes , that's true but this inspiration fails when your AF fails )
@@mex5341 you know, it's always the same story. Yes Sony has good autofocus, but Fuji is catching up and will soon be on par.
I have shot photos and videos with this little camera and not once did it fail me. What more could I ask for. And I won't even get into how incredible fuji colors are.
Honestly you can be creative with any camera. Creativity comes from photographer not the camera.
Perfect comparison video
Thank you for all of the positive feedback and the motivation.
Thank you for this review. I googled for this comparison and your video popped up on top, which was great because I've been watching a bunch of your other videos lately on other Sony cameras. I'm a hybrid shooter currently in the Fuji eco system, but I also own a Sony ZV-1 and keep getting tempted to build up a Sony kit.. It's hard to find the X-S20 right now so I've had my eye on the 6700. Only downside would be having to buy some new lenses to go with it! 😄
Hi Dave, thanks for that input and feedback. I guess Google is letting me ride the algorithm. As a Sony user, I can tell you Sony cameras are very easy to learn pickup and get fantastic shots. Have you thought about buying used Sony lenses?
Xs20 is on Amazon and always was there .
@@mex5341 not on the Canadian site.. third-party sellers, need to pay extra + shipping.. no thanks
Good to know
Aw man, sorry to hear that
Can you change/repair focus or dynamic range in post? U cant.
this man should be has over million subscriber
Dang, thanks. I’m so happy u are enjoying my content
Fuji XS10 Owner here. I love it. But the Fuji just doesnt communicate consistently with my Macbook. The Webcam app used to work and no longer does ever since I upgraded my Macbook Operating System, others have experienced the same. The Fuji is a charming camera that's a very fun photo taking experience. But it's frustrating not being able to use it as a webcam or point and shoot with it for video, as easy as it perhaps should be.
Thank you for this! Yes that's what my problem was. I appreciate the heads up!
Comparing cameras is always difficult.... First of all... It comes down to what is needed (by the user)... Do you shoot video only? Do you do photography only? Or both? Then we're talking bang for buck.... How much camera do you get for your money? And how do the lenses perform as well as... Are there many lenses for the camera I have picked... Also what do they cost? Multiple factors to consider as well as in what areas will the gear be used?!
What I really notice, is that both are just really good cameras, and there isn't really any real major difference enough to really be able to notice, especially when you aren't really trained for it. Ultimately I found myself enjoying the "vibe" of the Fujifilm look a bit better, but if I was forced to use either one, I don't think I'd have any issues.
24:35 You need to set it in the settings to hook it up to the computer.
Thank you
You are obsessed with Sony A6700 and I love it 😃
How could I not be? Haha
Special Question, Can you Tell me, The Song by 15:10 😊. ? Kind regards
Excellent video, a6700 all day!
12:20
All cameras have a button beside their viewfinder that enables live view mode/disables the eye sensor. How did it take you one hour to figure it out?
Also, it's LITERALLY FASTER TO GOOGLE all of these!!!!
I've struggle with both system. Sony is known to be bad also, but fuji, sony, canon... Just pick the PDF manual, and type what you're looking, and there's a list. Super easy and fast. And of course, it's just habit. Now (after 4 years) I know all fuji settings, as I did after 4 years on sony.
As a pro videographer, I'm just waiting to fin on internet Braw or ProresRaw... That's the thing which can change the game for a wider oportunity of use.
For me, 600MB, it's too much, especially for a bad h264/h265 codec. That's where Raw come in the game for me. I really don't understand why it's not THE thing tested by videographer ^^'
anyway, thank you a lot for this test. I would have loved some Raw test.
Lumix cameras are the only ones that appears to have mastered the "walking" stabilization
I have to get my hands on one
If anyone has opinions/experience, what would you choose between Sony A6600 and Fuji XS20? Both on sale atm where I live; the A6600 with the 18-135mm kit lens ~ 1400USD and XS20 15-45mm ~ 1370USD? 🌼
Thats hard to say. It depends on what you’re using them for. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for you Have you taken it yet?
@thefilmalliance No, I haven't! I'll do that, thank you sm!🌸
great job
Can u do new osmo pocket testing video?
At 21:31, when you are doing the sharpness test, I think the sony is slightly out of focus. Its too blurry. There should be barely any difference. I wonder is the image was actually in focus
I took 7 shots and they all were like that. I thought Sony would be sharper as well
@@thefilmalliance now that definitely shows how great the sensor is from zt4, xs-10 and zs-20, despite being a bit old. Thank you for the video👍👍
Thank you, yes I agree
Where I live,the price difference is 500 dollars.1750$ for a6700 1230$ for xs20.Do you think it is worth 500$ more for a6700?
Really liked your video, like that you went in so much detail for me i could see the video comparisons and in most of them fuji does look better. Ive been really confused with these 2 for a week now need to buy one. Sony isnt available in my country rn. You could do just a camparo where you talk about the footages more and photos? While sony hands down is better for me for 4 reasons autofocus/stabilization, lens availability, service if something breaks and some editing apps like davinci resolve supporting sonys log but not fujis.. though i really like how fujis footage looks and its almost as good as the sony in the above mentioned scenarios while its availble in India rn. Personally i want a camera with both photo and video capabilities but professionally id like to use it to create content for people. What would you do? Wait for the sony which might be a tad expensive or just buy the fuji rn? Thanks for your reply 😊
Sounds like you got it figured out. I would wait for the Sony. I just think it’s easier to use. It’s like a Mac and Fuji is a PC
@@thefilmalliance then send me a a6700 with someone who is travelling to India. Pretty please 🥺🙏 I'll give them the money on arrival ☺️😁
Haha I wish I could. It really is a great camera - One of my favorite
is it possible that in the image test the sony just locked focus on another point or missed focus? it would be very surprising if it was that soft compared to the fuji, and also inconsistent with other testing like dpreview's
Which image test are you referring to? Please give a timestamp
@@thefilmalliance the sharpness test at 21:28
Ahha, well I used the same method to ensure focus. That was scaled in almost 1200% so we are talking very fine detail. I probably could have done several different shots but couldn’t due to time constraints. The X-S20 is already in the mail back to BH
@@thefilmalliance thanks for the info, and great video!
and about IBIS test ... Did you use just Ibis or Ibis + boost mode on Fuji or even electronic ?
Ibis plus boost mode on Fuji and Active on Sony
@@thefilmalliance i think this was a mistake . I found that on my Xs20 works well only IBIS . I only use Ibis+Boost for horizontal panning or static shot . For walking shots - Ibis only
Oh I see. Wow. Interesting. So leave boost off when walking?
@@thefilmalliance yes , I mostly of the time use only Ibis . Even Fuji recommends use boost for panning only. But , yes, Sony with Active mode gives better results
Thank you for helping me out with this
Why does that picture with you in all of the gear carrying your video camera remind me of Charlie Frost from 2012 Woody harrelson's character😂
Haha
Could you add wireless tethering to your tests? Nobody tests that these days and only a few people show how to set it up.
Do you mean like transferring files wirelessly? Yes I could add that to the list. Thanks
@@thefilmalliance Yes, I have a weird use case as an eBay seller. I need to be able to turn on the camera, shoot photos and have them show up on a computer automatically.
It’s a very niche request, not sure if it’s worth some video time.
I’m pretty sure the Sony will do it, I think the Fuji will do it and Panasonic can do it after a bunch of messing around.
Not many videos on the subject.
What a great idea and very interesting. Ok it’s definitely worth some video time. Thanks
Probabilmente acquisterò la XS20 perché il rumore video nelle scene scure della 6700 non va bene
I know what you mean. It depends on what you’re using them for. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for you Have you taken it yet?
I like Fuji colors more. Sony ones are way too light, but maybe this could be fixed by setting default exposure -1 or so. Fuji also costs less. So, to me Fuji is slightly better.
Yes, I think you right. I can see what your saying. I believe both cameras are good for different situations.
Well done! Both seemed like nice cameras…neither had good stabilization, but Sonys did seem OK. On other reviews I have seen IBIS results were about the same, OK, but not for use if walking. I found sometimes I prefer the looks of the Sony and other times I liked XS20. I would lean more towards the Sony for video, largely as the AF very reliable, but suspect either tool would work well with experience.
Yes, I actually like that not so smooth look now and again. It’s hard to pull off without being unusable
Did you test with the latest Fuji firmware? It has substantial auto focus improvements. Also Fuji XApp is much better than Sonys - not only can it easily syn photos and videos but firmware updates too.
I mentioned in the video not updating the camera because it wasn’t mine. Thanks for letting me know
it was minor improvement . If we talk about Xs20 and 1.13 firmware
@@mex5341 i found v.1.13 much faster and snappy.
did you use slog3 vs flog on fuji? If you only use sdr on both thr dynamic range makes no sense
I used both. What camera did you end up liking more?
Anybody working on this category of mirrorless that support Ultra Sync Blue time code?
Great question, I don't know of anybody
Not really biased but just get gh5 for video. And it will like forever and easy run and guns.
Sorry, I didn’t quite understand the results of the low light part. Was the a6700 worse and noisier in low light?
Fuji has a higher iso range. The footage looked worse on Sony comparatively but most would not shoot at the high iso ranges anyway.
Well said, Thanks Ken
When I scale in, you can see all the noise in the dark areas with the Sony
That clears it up, thanks both of you!
Good to hear. My pleasure
great sharing 👍👍👏👏
Fuji all the way. Thanks for your review, very informative.
Thanks, my pleasure
Great video and balanced review between two cameras but in my opinion the XS-20 beats Sony for 'simplicity' of using film sims .
I think it all depends on the user and what they’re using it for but I agree with you. Do you shoot professionally or as a hobby?
Hobby only , mainly family stuff :)
Despite the higher price for the a6700, I think it's actually cheaper to run effectively because of the lenses. You can get a TON of used E-mount lenses and there are great and cheap adapters for it, so you can even use old Nikon-F or Canon-EF lenses, if you got those. I got three Nikon-F lenses, one of them being a pretty damn great 35mm f1.8 prime that I got used for less than 150 USD. If you want to use the same thing on the Fuji, you're looking at either having no electronic functions on it, or paying about 250 USD for an adapter. Bloody horrendous. Not to mention there are way fewer lenses to choose from when it comes to the X-mount with used ones still being pretty expensive.
Fuji takes it for me. Better dynamic range and colors 👌
At 16:12 while walking towards the camera, there is this moment where the camera refocus on Fuji. Man, I hate when it happens. Is ruining the shot. So many of my clips have this and I always get good framing but sometimes the camera is like "yeah, lets refocus, to make sure the subject is in focus". 😂 it is a pain for filming and I have no idea why the market it as a video camera🤦. Still is a great camera for stills
Hi Daniel, I’m happy you saw that and can relate. Yes, that’s the big difference right there when it comes to the autofocus systems on both cameras. Sony never does that
I think this is a awesome comparision...
I chose Fuji coz of its film recipies. Also Any specific gimbals would you recommend? @thefilmalliance