Still loving mine...doing daily commute to work on it currently, hit a secret trail or two on the way home. Love it. The tablet on full brightness still sucks in bright sun. It really is a gimmick to make it feel like a Rally bike. It does come with DMD2 though and I've not had any issues with it getting me where I want to go. The bike is such a change from all my other big ADV bikes.
The PR7 really is a peach. And it‘s fully DIY serviceable. Sadly the dealer-network isn‘t everywhere well established, sure, it‘s an exotic bike, but Husky tech knowledge is available at many places and it‘s easy anyway. The portuguese at AJP do this business since the mid 80s, a niche manufacturer with focus and proudness on quality offering of an alternative to the mainstream bikes.
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Really appreciate your insight. I looked hard at the AJP a few years ago, but the bike seemed to have some electrical issues (cold starts being a particular problem as I remember). I think they figured out most of those items. I bought a Kove instead and now I'm working on an after market seat. Agree that the AJP seat is excellent and I think its a prettier bike than either the 690 or the Kove.
@@PatchedBandit I like the bike. It's light, nimble and always starts up the first press of the button. It's easy to work on so far. I don't have much mileage on it yet because I had to have open heart surgery in February which put me on the shelf for a while. I am hoping to rectify that in September.
@@PatchedBandit i have been running the Kove for almost 5000 km. Always fresh, always out for play. Really nimble and ….hmm….i will call it very neutral in handling, nothing surprises you, no funny reactions to road/ terrain surface. Using it as a light adventure bike, brilliant. EU5 is not good for such bikes, but the positive surpass any negativity reg EU5. If you pass through Denmark, you are welcome to try
I tried to open my thoughts in the video description (it's a long but at the very bottom 😅). I tried to think about the nyances on these bikes. They are very different and it all depends on the buyer as per usual 😄 If someone is more used to Tenere they might feel more at home with the AJP. It's definitely a fun bike but it's not as agile as the Kove in technical riding and in general the AJP feels more sluggish due to the bigger displacement on the engine and probably the Kove carries it's weight a bit lower on the frame. Check the description too there might be some points there I forget now. One annoyance on the Kove is definitely checking the oil levels.. it has no sight glass or even an oil stick 😅
@@PatchedBandit Thanks man, and I always tell my viewers to read the frickin description before asking 😂 Se you soon! Looks like you're attending Outduro. Looking forward to meet up again
This is basically a rally bike. They are made to go fast for long distances in medium heavy terrain. This is also why the seat is more comfortable in comparison to a standard Enduro bike.
Everything I've seen about this bike makes me want one. The problem is that I live in Australia, so they're rare as rocking horse poo here. To buy and modify a 690 is just way too expensive also
I tested both and went with a 701 that I built into a rally bike. 701 is much more powerful and a lot smoother on longer rides. The PR7 is a really great bike tough but the engine is just a bit too vibey.
They vary a lot especially with KTM now for some reason. KTM in finland is super expensive. But some price difference is undestandable between AJP and KTM as AJP comes fully equipped if someone is looking at a rally build.
IMHO a willing mechanic can service this bike, The bike is simple, the husquarna engine manual is available, AJP made the parts list available. Getting parts can be sometimes problematic (waited 2-3 weeks for spokes), It can be done, if you willing to make an effort.
@@PatchedBandit Used price, nearly new. North of Germany. Your tracks are much faster than the ones I like in Bavaria. Hence a small bike for me. On the way to Northern Italy in Mid October 500 km in one day? We'll find out ;-)
That tablet appears to suffer from the same issue all tablets have... unreadable in direct sunlight regardless of brightness (I've watched a bunch of reviews and they all look the same, black in direct sun). The vibration comment was surprising since the dual balancer 701 I have (2020) has very little vibration (no hand numbness even during 16 hour days during touring)... but it clearly indicates the PR7 has great vibration control (at which point it doesn't matter which is less)
Not sure why but the PR7 didn't feel annoyingly viby even though the engine is older type. Maybe they did something with damping some of it from the handlebar.. Not sure. The tablet was set to low brightness on the video so I can't say much about that. DMD has some more pricy options with >1000 nits which are definitely better.
You missed the obvious points……far better suspension than KTM, + longer suspension travel than KTM, and the obvious fact: its very stable at high speed offroad, takes care of you, contrary to….you name it.. And simplicity and access to everything on the bike.
Quick Ride series is not supposed to be a full review. Its a very limited time I get access to these bikes so I dont have the time or place to fully test the bike. The concept is to tell my audience everything I immediately notice with a short test ride. Also point in these is not to list all the specs that every other reviewer does. Simply there are a 1000 reviews out there. I’m providig the honest initial feedback I get from the bike with a short ride. What immediately stands out good or bad.
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Or there was a problem with your 890? 😅 I've ridden 3 variants of the 690 and they all shake more than most bikes. It's nor ruining the bike for most people but it's something I have to mention 😄
@@PatchedBandit could be.. there is a reason I traded it for an Africa Twin 😂. The 890 was just buzzy at higher speeds and would only start on one cylinder when cold. My Tenere 700 is definitely smoother than my 690. The Twin was smooth at higher speeds but at say anything under 60mph my 690 was smoother.
@@Jarvis60 690 has an awesome suspension compared to most adventurebikes. Makes it very nice off the paved foad. But I would say the suspension on the AJP is comparable.
@@PatchedBanditwell the KTM Xplor suspension is their cheap version of an open cartridge fork. Once I dug into the working of it I was pretty disappointed and replaced the valving with the Dal Soggio SP1 Pro setup. Now I was looking at the PR7 suspension and it seems very interesting. 300 mm fork travel - 50 mm more than the new 690’s…. Plus you have a larger fuel tank on the PR7 which can come in handy
Explanation of the issue with the KTM XPlor fork. A funny and expensive thing happens when messing with suspension - nice suspension is like crack cocaine. ua-cam.com/video/mDrltACxaPs/v-deo.htmlsi=qbRUo9s68olmn3yZ
So piggy backing on a previous question on your CFMOTO 450 MT video. For doing the TET would you choose the AJP, the KOVE, or the CFMOTO? Thanks for the video!
I'm conna pick a wild duo. MT450 and Kove 450. That would be a nice duo on anybodys garage. AJP on the other hand doesn't really go well with either. Like if you buy the AJP there is no real need to own either of the others as it's pretty nicely in the middle and also the most powerful out of the 3. If I would be going on TET norway I would pick the CFMoto or AJP any day of the week. Roads are so easy and comfort is the key there. But TET albania I would pick the Kove every day of the week 😁 So very hard question. All 3 are very good in what they do but also very different. Offroadability best to worst: 1. Kove 2. AJP 3. CFMoto On road: 1. CFMoto 2. AJP 3. Kove If I could only own one. I would take AJP or Kove personally. But that would be a very difficult pick between those two. CFMoto is not a bad bike but nowadays I prefer a more offroad cabable bike and I'm willing to lose some on road comfort for that.
@@PatchedBandit Thank you! That is a really helpful answer. The other factor for me would probably be the cost of the AJP versus the other two, but I was interested in the answer when not considering that variable. One more question (for now 😉). For on road is it the power and wind protection as to why you would choose the AJP over the lesser vibrations of the KOVE?
Yeah wind protection is better on the AJP and it pulls harder on those highway speeds so it feels more comfortable doing it. Vibrations are worse but all other aspects are better on higher speeds on the AJP. Kove is not terrible by any means but in this trio I would put the AJP as the better bike for "on road" use. Oh yeah and also the seat is far better on the AJP. Might even be the best seat out of all 3.
cool bike but Less HP & more weight vs the 690 and then dealer support makes that an easy choice for most , id sure look at one if there was a dealership anywhere near me ,, 60hp & 363Lb's vs 73hp & 323 Lb's thats significant
For some people that is definitely so. For myself I couldn't notice any significant power differences test riding them. The Doma version is definitely a strong puller even though KTM is that little bit more racey on the HP figures.
I have the AJP so I am biased, but I have also testrode the 690/701. AJP has a bigger tank, rally tower, more comfortable seat. Also suspension travel is larger on the AJP (300/2820 vs 240?) Offroad I rarely want more power, more torque maybe :) And I have the standard version.
The engines are as different as chalk and cheese. 690 engine revs out like a two stroke but struggles to “lug” itself at the low end whereas SWM/Husky 630 motor can tractor with also very good mid and while it will rev out quite nicely it is nothing like the 690 up top. The key thing here is the 690 is hampered by having very narrow spread of gears whereas the 600 swm motor has a wide set ratios which work well to put power down and can actually cruise comfortably in 6th. No such luck with the 690 where it is buzzing ridiculously at cruising speed. The characters of these two bikes are very, very different.
@ very true. In my mind I am trying to imagine how the PR7 feels and where it sits relative to the old TE630 and the 690R both of which I owned. Ts funny because people say the 690R is like a giant dirt bike but as a novice I struggled with it off road . I then went over to lighter bikes like the 200 and 300 two stroke and then came to the TE630 and found it very user friendly compared to my memory of the 690R. I think the 690 suffers from using the same platform as the super moto version, ie lack of a wide ratio gearbox and just that super agressive high revving motor. Anyway it’s really good to see your review it is much appreciated. I am pretty sold on the concept of the PR7.
Did you ever ride a RE Himalayan 411, especially the late 2022-current edition with earlier flaws ironed out...plus the Benelli TRK 502X? I would be interested to know your thoughts.
@@PatchedBandit The last 411's are a great bike, so much character, the earlier flaws ironed out. The 450 more refined, better on the road, but not as good off...in my opinion. I have both
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Glad you liked it, I'm picking up my new PR7 tomorrow 🥳
Good choice! That's a badass bike
Still loving mine...doing daily commute to work on it currently, hit a secret trail or two on the way home. Love it. The tablet on full brightness still sucks in bright sun. It really is a gimmick to make it feel like a Rally bike. It does come with DMD2 though and I've not had any issues with it getting me where I want to go. The bike is such a change from all my other big ADV bikes.
Let’s go PR7 crew 🙌🏻💪🏼
Just collected my new PR7 and planning on riding your way from the UK shortly.
Nice! Late summer visit to Finland? Hit me up on discord or whatsapp of you ride close to Vaasa at some point and wanna grab a coffee 👍
That will be great! Will do.
Yeah the lighter the bike the more fun I have. Great chat thanks for sharing
Regards Steve
I can agree on that!
The PR7 really is a peach. And it‘s fully DIY serviceable. Sadly the dealer-network isn‘t everywhere well established, sure, it‘s an exotic bike, but Husky tech knowledge is available at many places and it‘s easy anyway. The portuguese at AJP do this business since the mid 80s, a niche manufacturer with focus and proudness on quality offering of an alternative to the mainstream bikes.
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Thanks for this episode, much appreciated!
My pleasure!
@@PatchedBandit I have just put a deposit down for one of these (rather than a 690/701), so your video is very timely 🙂
Really appreciate your insight. I looked hard at the AJP a few years ago, but the bike seemed to have some electrical issues (cold starts being a particular problem as I remember). I think they figured out most of those items. I bought a Kove instead and now I'm working on an after market seat. Agree that the AJP seat is excellent and I think its a prettier bike than either the 690 or the Kove.
How have you like the Kove so far? How many km do you have on it? 😊
@@PatchedBandit I like the bike. It's light, nimble and always starts up the first press of the button. It's easy to work on so far. I don't have much mileage on it yet because I had to have open heart surgery in February which put me on the shelf for a while. I am hoping to rectify that in September.
@@PatchedBandit i have been running the Kove for almost 5000 km. Always fresh, always out for play. Really nimble and ….hmm….i will call it very neutral in handling, nothing surprises you, no funny reactions to road/ terrain surface. Using it as a light adventure bike, brilliant. EU5 is not good for such bikes, but the positive surpass any negativity reg EU5. If you pass through Denmark, you are welcome to try
Kove is brand not bike. So u talk about 450 or 800x?
@@Angry-Lynx 450.
Great to hear your thoughts on the bike I just tested. You have more experience in different bikes than me. So it begs the question... AJP or Kove? :)
I tried to open my thoughts in the video description (it's a long but at the very bottom 😅). I tried to think about the nyances on these bikes. They are very different and it all depends on the buyer as per usual 😄
If someone is more used to Tenere they might feel more at home with the AJP. It's definitely a fun bike but it's not as agile as the Kove in technical riding and in general the AJP feels more sluggish due to the bigger displacement on the engine and probably the Kove carries it's weight a bit lower on the frame.
Check the description too there might be some points there I forget now. One annoyance on the Kove is definitely checking the oil levels.. it has no sight glass or even an oil stick 😅
@@PatchedBandit Thanks man, and I always tell my viewers to read the frickin description before asking 😂 Se you soon! Looks like you're attending Outduro. Looking forward to meet up again
I decided to come even though it's a bit tricky with work. See you there! 😄✌️
Hehe two legends chatting here ;)
This is basically a rally bike. They are made to go fast for long distances in medium heavy terrain. This is also why the seat is more comfortable in comparison to a standard Enduro bike.
Good episode, even KTM is still better approved by
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AJP PR7 💪🏻
Everything I've seen about this bike makes me want one. The problem is that I live in Australia, so they're rare as rocking horse poo here. To buy and modify a 690 is just way too expensive also
FAMEL and AJP finest portuguese World bikes for sure.
I tested both and went with a 701 that I built into a rally bike. 701 is much more powerful and a lot smoother on longer rides. The PR7 is a really great bike tough but the engine is just a bit too vibey.
Thats surprising to hear. Thought the PR7 was a bit smoother myself but it has been a while since I last rode the 701.
Both pretty vibey though 😄
Here in Sweden the AJP is more expensive than the 690. Interesting that there are such big diffs with price for bikes in Europe
They vary a lot especially with KTM now for some reason. KTM in finland is super expensive.
But some price difference is undestandable between AJP and KTM as AJP comes fully equipped if someone is looking at a rally build.
It's always been a very desirable bike. But no dealership, so it stays a rare choice. Pity for such a capable machine. Günter/Nürnberg
That is a pity. You might like it as far as I have gotten to know your taste in bikes 😊 Definitely a contender for the Kove too.
@@PatchedBandit You know me. That AJP has always been high on my list. At least 11,500 € in Germany.
That's a good price. I might consider one for next season.. we shall see if the AJP will be a channel bike in the future.
IMHO a willing mechanic can service this bike, The bike is simple, the husquarna engine manual is available, AJP made the parts list available. Getting parts can be sometimes problematic (waited 2-3 weeks for spokes), It can be done, if you willing to make an effort.
@@PatchedBandit Used price, nearly new. North of Germany. Your tracks are much faster than the ones I like in Bavaria. Hence a small bike for me. On the way to Northern Italy in Mid October 500 km in one day? We'll find out ;-)
That tablet appears to suffer from the same issue all tablets have... unreadable in direct sunlight regardless of brightness (I've watched a bunch of reviews and they all look the same, black in direct sun). The vibration comment was surprising since the dual balancer 701 I have (2020) has very little vibration (no hand numbness even during 16 hour days during touring)... but it clearly indicates the PR7 has great vibration control (at which point it doesn't matter which is less)
Not sure why but the PR7 didn't feel annoyingly viby even though the engine is older type. Maybe they did something with damping some of it from the handlebar.. Not sure.
The tablet was set to low brightness on the video so I can't say much about that. DMD has some more pricy options with >1000 nits which are definitely better.
You missed the obvious points……far better suspension than KTM, + longer suspension travel than KTM, and the obvious fact: its very stable at high speed offroad, takes care of you, contrary to….you name it.. And simplicity and access to everything on the bike.
Quick Ride series is not supposed to be a full review. Its a very limited time I get access to these bikes so I dont have the time or place to fully test the bike.
The concept is to tell my audience everything I immediately notice with a short test ride. Also point in these is not to list all the specs that every other reviewer does.
Simply there are a 1000 reviews out there. I’m providig the honest initial feedback I get from the bike with a short ride. What immediately stands out good or bad.
Quote from the series description:
🏍️ What is the Quick Ride series meant to be?
Quick Ride collection is not meant to be this rigid "review" style video that most youtubers are making. There is definitely a place for actual reviews but as I don't have access like that to these bikes I thought I would do things a bit differently than just list you a bunch of specs and hilights of these machines.
I make these videos just to bring you along on a test ride of these bikes. Some episodes might be longer if I get access to a bike for more time but mostly these are short test ride style videos where I try to tell you the audience everything I'm feeling from the bike at that moment and maybe do a closing thought at the end if needed.
Welcome aboard!
@@PatchedBandit All good, just wanted to point to one of the main differences. Yes, time is limiting factor, and you did great
Interesting.
My 2020 690 Enduro R was smoother than my 890 Adventure R on the highway.
Seems like there is some variation between the bikes.
Or there was a problem with your 890? 😅 I've ridden 3 variants of the 690 and they all shake more than most bikes. It's nor ruining the bike for most people but it's something I have to mention 😄
@@PatchedBandit could be.. there is a reason I traded it for an Africa Twin 😂. The 890 was just buzzy at higher speeds and would only start on one cylinder when cold.
My Tenere 700 is definitely smoother than my 690. The Twin was smooth at higher speeds but at say anything under 60mph my 690 was smoother.
@@Jarvis60 690 has an awesome suspension compared to most adventurebikes. Makes it very nice off the paved foad. But I would say the suspension on the AJP is comparable.
@@PatchedBanditwell the KTM Xplor suspension is their cheap version of an open cartridge fork. Once I dug into the working of it I was pretty disappointed and replaced the valving with the Dal Soggio SP1 Pro setup.
Now I was looking at the PR7 suspension and it seems very interesting. 300 mm fork travel - 50 mm more than the new 690’s….
Plus you have a larger fuel tank on the PR7 which can come in handy
Explanation of the issue with the KTM XPlor fork.
A funny and expensive thing happens when messing with suspension - nice suspension is like crack cocaine.
ua-cam.com/video/mDrltACxaPs/v-deo.htmlsi=qbRUo9s68olmn3yZ
So piggy backing on a previous question on your CFMOTO 450 MT video. For doing the TET would you choose the AJP, the KOVE, or the CFMOTO? Thanks for the video!
I'm conna pick a wild duo. MT450 and Kove 450. That would be a nice duo on anybodys garage.
AJP on the other hand doesn't really go well with either. Like if you buy the AJP there is no real need to own either of the others as it's pretty nicely in the middle and also the most powerful out of the 3.
If I would be going on TET norway I would pick the CFMoto or AJP any day of the week. Roads are so easy and comfort is the key there.
But TET albania I would pick the Kove every day of the week 😁
So very hard question. All 3 are very good in what they do but also very different.
Offroadability best to worst:
1. Kove
2. AJP
3. CFMoto
On road:
1. CFMoto
2. AJP
3. Kove
If I could only own one. I would take AJP or Kove personally. But that would be a very difficult pick between those two. CFMoto is not a bad bike but nowadays I prefer a more offroad cabable bike and I'm willing to lose some on road comfort for that.
@@PatchedBandit Thank you! That is a really helpful answer. The other factor for me would probably be the cost of the AJP versus the other two, but I was interested in the answer when not considering that variable. One more question (for now 😉). For on road is it the power and wind protection as to why you would choose the AJP over the lesser vibrations of the KOVE?
Yeah wind protection is better on the AJP and it pulls harder on those highway speeds so it feels more comfortable doing it. Vibrations are worse but all other aspects are better on higher speeds on the AJP.
Kove is not terrible by any means but in this trio I would put the AJP as the better bike for "on road" use. Oh yeah and also the seat is far better on the AJP. Might even be the best seat out of all 3.
cool bike but Less HP & more weight vs the 690 and then dealer support makes that an easy choice for most , id sure look at one if there was a dealership anywhere near me ,, 60hp & 363Lb's vs 73hp & 323 Lb's thats significant
For some people that is definitely so. For myself I couldn't notice any significant power differences test riding them. The Doma version is definitely a strong puller even though KTM is that little bit more racey on the HP figures.
@@PatchedBandit i like oddball stuff like that & i do wish there was a dealer anywhere near me but there isnt so its off the list
I have the AJP so I am biased, but I have also testrode the 690/701. AJP has a bigger tank, rally tower, more comfortable seat. Also suspension travel is larger on the AJP (300/2820 vs 240?) Offroad I rarely want more power, more torque maybe :) And I have the standard version.
The engines are as different as chalk and cheese. 690 engine revs out like a two stroke but struggles to “lug” itself at the low end whereas SWM/Husky 630 motor can tractor with also very good mid and while it will rev out quite nicely it is nothing like the 690 up top. The key thing here is the 690 is hampered by having very narrow spread of gears whereas the 600 swm motor has a wide set ratios which work well to put power down and can actually cruise comfortably in 6th. No such luck with the 690 where it is buzzing ridiculously at cruising speed. The characters of these two bikes are very, very different.
Longer ride back to back would definitely point out some key differences but with a quick ride they feel very similar.
@ very true. In my mind I am trying to imagine how the PR7 feels and where it sits relative to the old TE630 and the 690R both of which I owned. Ts funny because people say the 690R is like a giant dirt bike but as a novice I struggled with it off road . I then went over to lighter bikes like the 200 and 300 two stroke and then came to the TE630 and found it very user friendly compared to my memory of the 690R. I think the 690 suffers from using the same platform as the super moto version, ie lack of a wide ratio gearbox and just that super agressive high revving motor. Anyway it’s really good to see your review it is much appreciated. I am pretty sold on the concept of the PR7.
Did you ever ride a RE Himalayan 411, especially the late 2022-current edition with earlier flaws ironed out...plus the Benelli TRK 502X?
I would be interested to know your thoughts.
Absolutely going to try and ride the new REH if I can find one to ride. Sadly there is only 1 place in Finland that sells it.
@@PatchedBandit
The last 411's are a great bike, so much character, the earlier flaws ironed out.
The 450 more refined, better on the road, but not as good off...in my opinion. I have both
vem tillverkar ajp?
AJP Motos is a Portuguese manufacturer. The engine is an older Husqvarna unit that has been in many bikes.
€1,000-€1500 more than the KTM 690 in Germany, the tablet is junk and I don't want a rally tower.
Exactly why I usually never talk prices. Country differences are big.
AJP are nowhere in Australia. Hardly any dealers and a range of niggles in the earlier model equates to a non event. Promised a lot.
No, nothing is better than a KTM. God gave us KTMs and we should accept his almighty gift
True. I just need to annoy the KTM riders here and there so they wouldn't feel so high and mighty all the time 🤣
KTM even gives us edible camshafts (cheese) for those survival situations...
KTM is not that what you think, way too havy and the quality ins´t there
I think it's more from hell than from heaven... 😂