I moved to Portugal 5 years ago…. I flipping love it here! *The trails, the food, the clean air, the kind people, the low crime, the weather … I could go on*
@@primeira_milha era uma generalização, tens de concordar que a AJP merecia muita mais apoio por cá. Mas infelizmente é quase sempre a última escolha 🤷♂️ Seja a PR7 ou os modelos de Enduro
Great to see you testing the PR7. I've had mine since 2019 and it's been a fantastic UK / Euro TET bike and held it's own on Illyria Raid as well. The engine is old but a real treat and will both tractor on the torque and rev high when you want to fly....but the real beauty of the bike is the chassis which is so stable at speed, accepting your caveat of a very small turning circle. Fitted a Tractive rally shock with remote preload to mine to stiffen up the rear, which also makes it feel more planted at the front and and allows quick adjustments when carrying luggage ( wine box plus extra water for the next day = 1 extra click rear preload 😄).
this is without a doubt the best motorcycle you tube channel, what hooked me was the cinematic quality of the Aprilla Tuareg review..........just incredible
I've been owning this bike for 13 months now, done 7500km (about 5000 offroad) including 2x week long trips. Let me say a couple of words about what met my expectations and what didn't. Mine is standard version, no power-up kit. Same rear tire as in the video, similar front one. Okay, let me start from the disapointments: RELIABILITY and parts quality. I wish I could make this bold here. So far the bike has been towed to the AJP "dealership" twice. Barely came home on its own 3 times. One injector changed (warranty claim pending), one "free" dealership repair, aftermarket fuel pump (not as an upgrade but as a must to keep the bike working). I've had fuel issues since the bike was 5 months old. Injector died, fuel pump died. My country has good fuel quality as far as I know. Exhaust is very disappointing. Sounds like a chinese 4t 125 moped. Ridiculous. Pipes become rusty instantly. I really mean instantly, after first ride. I'm sure it was developed and tested by a tall rider. This is not my case, I'm rather short/mid.Gear lever is ridiculous not only by its positioning for very large feet but also by its design very prone to damage (length being one of them). Steering angle is indeed pathetic. However, my bike came with adjustment screws pretty wide open so that I nearly crashed when riding first couple of meters. After adjusting them to max possible angle it is bearable but could be better. A lot of parts is not accessible outside AJP factory and this lot is full of parts you're very likely to break (e.g. gear and both brake leves, mirrors ). Now why I love this bike: HANDLING is as good as promised. PR7 is a dream in that matter, I believe. This really feels like a 350 enduro, yet has very adventure-friendly features. Very offroad capable, I can feel it's gonna take long time for me to be able to ride 100% juice out of this bike. The tablet is slow but once warmed up becomes ok for the nav. Browsing apps, internet is possible but not comfortable. Pre-installed and lifetime paid DMD2 app is spectacular! Outstanding compared other apps I've tried. Direct answer to dual sport riders' needs. Seat is comfy, I've once done 8 hours net of asphalt riding one day and felt no pain the next day. Even in standard version power is sufficient. I wish low throttle control was better but maybe this is what single cyl engines do. Take the power up kit. It is expensive but a must, solving 2 major problems. Summing it up, it's a bike with design focus massively aimed at rider, not engineer which has pros and cons.
Low throttle problem tends to be emissions. 701 Husky I'ved ridden alot became like a new bike with PowerCommander and good tune. Gone are the annoying traits of dying when slowing down for stop and coughing on low rpm's, Just smooth and easy low/midrange. Also the ON/OFF throttle jerkines was taken care and works more like a carb.
Glad someone told it how it really is and some miles to back up the claims 👌👏. Made my decision as easy as possible 😝🤣😂. Just another cool “ knock off “ adventure/rally bike 🤦♂️👎
There is something about AJP bikes, about their simplicity and their way to ride… when in Japan I used to ride a PR4 Extreme and far from being the best bike on the trail, it has this magical power of making you the best rider you could be! I loved it!
i have seen AJP first time in 2006-2007 years in POrtugal.. i loved it. i feel in love with them.. only 125cc bikes were out... --- it is nice to AJP still alive!
Rode a Standard one today for a couple of miles offroad. Deeply impressed. What a leisurely and competent bike. Mr. Pinto used top-act parts and mixed them together like a world-class chief. The whole riding experience is better than the single parts. Your impressions of that AJP PR7 are spot on, Llel. Wish that more people would get the chance to ride it, what a wonderful bike! Günter/Nürnberg
I own this bike. Dirt, sand, gravel... I really enjoy riding this bike. I'm not very experienced rider and I feel most confident riding this one offroad.
The DMD2 is a joy, mine goes with me on every bike i have. There is one very important point to make about the DMD2, the support, if you join the DMD2 user groups on the Web or Facebook and report an issue, the very developers are there on these groups and more often than not, a fix is out quicker than a shake of a lamb's' tail. If you don't ride the AJP, don't worry, the DMD2 is available to buy in two formats, the tablet or phone sizes and if you have your own Android device, you can install the software on to that, so you don't even need to buy the hardware, having said that I'd always recommend the hardwere route as it's a tough bit of kit. As you might have guessed, I'm a big fanboy of the DMD2 and I've used all of the other GPS platforms.
We always enjoy your vids this one was really great not cus of the bike, location or review but simply when you said your dad rides and Dakar in particular. I'm sure he is proud as punch to see your motorcycle ventures and success on UA-cam. Rock on mate.
Crikey Llewellyn, you almost got me regretting buying my 690 back in 2020 instead of a PR7. Cracking video stunning bike but after countless trips and many many miles the 690 and myself are stuck with each other 👌🏻
I bought my standard PR7 in May 24...the only PR7 actually available in Germany at that time. I have enjoyed this bike more than anything else I ride since I bought it including my HP2 Enduro. I have not been on a single cylinder big bore in more than 15 years and coming from big ADV bikes this bike is a revelation. I keep waiting for something to break or go wrong but so far its been almost perfect. As we get to the cold weather in my first year of ownership I'm waiting for the cold start issues to begin. I have had an occasional warm start issue but just a bit of extra starter time a pop then she goes...and this is only random. The Samsung pad itself may not be the latest tech, but it work pretty darn good and the DMD2 installed is fabulous. I will upgrade to a real unit over the winter because I want a real computer to use between the PR7 and the HP2. I will just use the A7 for personal use after that or as a backup. All of my fellow riding buddies have begged me to ride it (because finally this bike is getting reasonably well known and drooled over) and all come away liking it (most of them are on large ADV bikes). I will likely get a T7 next year, kit it out the way I like, and use that for larger touring and keep the AJP for short and mid distance riding and tours. Fingers crossed it stays this good for the foreseeable future!! Great video Brake Magazine!!
The PR7 has been on ny wishlist ever since I was able to demo ride it offroad for an hour. I'm saving up for it... But now I want the gold edition even more!
I have owned my 21 plate PR7 for nearly 2 years, and these bikes are not as reliable as you say! You should check the owners group pages for more info. The crank cases are made of cheese, and sadly quite a few of us owners have had them crack, and AJP wants nothing to do with it! The mapping on these bikes has taken a very long time to get right and I still have flame out issues on mine!, and that's with the very latest map! I f'ing love this bike for how it feels and how it handles but it is far from a bike I would trust to take on long travels (Which is why I wanted it in the first place!)
I think this is likely always going to be a problem. I'm intrigued as to the problems with the mapping? The one I rode was rock solid. It's very 2014, but it wasn't a problem. What's happened with the Crank Cases? When I mentioned reliability, I was talking about he original design of the Husky motor, not specifically this engine.
@@BrakeMagazine The crank case issue seems to be related to the head bolts being overtightned at factory. it's not 100% confirmed at this point as the owners are still trying to work it out, I do know it cost the last onwer 1100 euros to fix the issue himself. I feel that since SWM tock over the factory in Italy, standards have dropped and they just don't care! As for the mapping, my flame out issue seems to be very rare, which for most owners is a good thing, but personally I am very frustrated and just want to ride the bike without worring all the time.
As an swm owner, I think some of what makes me sceptical with AJP is they sorce there engine from swm yes it's an old Husqvarna engine but still needs a little R&D work to make it wright! I would never recommend anyone to have to deal with swm they have just cloned the old Husqvarna platform but have fitted very poor quality plastics to disguise this and have cheaper out on certain parts and don't respond to feedback or issues that are raised, AJP seem to make a good quality product but are unfortunately tied to SWM! Just my opinion!
I currently own a 21’ with the power kit, 16kkm. The one thing that I really dislike about it is the absolute trash of the kick stand…I had it welded 2times this year to fix the tabs, last one was in Hungary. And of course the fuel cap, I tried to clip the rubber gasket on it but that didn’t resolve anything so the elongated fuel neck was a must. I am a bit broad shouldered and my elbows tend to obstruct at least 3/4 of the rear view mirrors for street riding. Other than that the bike handles really good, on the street and in the dirt with a 50/50rear tire and a motocross front.
I wanted this bike for so long. At least so long as it exsists. Rode with someone who has one about 2 years ago. No way my 6'8" extremely non-average-bear will even fit this bike with whatever mods. It felt kinda tiny? But it was a great bike and i've recommended it to many just because it's good everywhere and 'enough'.
Great review - the PR7 is my unicorn after having a fantastic Tuareg and before that a highly enjoyable V85TT.. yes for my riding lighter is better, yet the AJP sits on 120km/h just fine, a little over 5k rpm in 6th - the balance shaft just works 😊 Never had a problem with the turning circle myself 🤔 Super reliable on a number of multi day trips..😅
@@dustyroadsnl Yes I would have kept the Tuareg yet moved to the country so now the dirt is close by - whereas in the city it was an hour + away and the twin made more sense. Also the dirt has single tracks worth exploring too and hence lighter is better..
Great bike, early ones had some issues but they seam to have sorted out those problems. I like that its got little to no electronics and rides like an enduro but is comfortable like an adventure bike. Very similar to riding a 690/701 set up for adventure.
Great review. Well done. Own a 2020 PR7. Doesn't come with the Ohlins, but the ZF Sachs do a great job, also. Great machine, with some things here and there, but overall, a very good adventure bike, that will probably take you anywhere on the planet.
Well.. this is quality. I couldn’t agree more.. i wish I could be as articulate! PS.. There must be something wrong with mine, it doesn’t wheelie like that and it can’t possibly be me. 😬
My unicorn bike to upgrade from a Tenere 660Z, that great go around the world on machine. one day I will own one, super rare secondhand in the uk tho. Missed one at a dealer a couple of months ago, some day I’ll have one, and yet again another great video 👌
They used to be a screaming deal, like $10K in the US. Those days are gone. I had one, briefly. I didn't gel with it at all. Not the right bike for ME. Where I live, where I ride, how I ride, etc. It was my dream bike, guess i'm not living the dream life though. It found a better home, better trails, better rider. Win win. I do think you need to have a dealer close by, even if it's older technology and 'easy' to wrench on, having a new bike with a warranty doesn't help if there's not a dealer around. I still consider getting one of their smaller bikes just to ride some dirt. They aren't cheap anymore, but good value for the money.
Have ridden one from MHB Motorcycles in Cumbria and it was brilliant. Riding one around its ‘back yard’ looks like a great place to do it though. Great review
One significant difference between the gold edition and the regular one: the standard clutch lever is a Magura unit, where the gold edition is Brembo. The Brembo is SIGNIFICANTLY lighter and easier to use. Officially the seat height is higher than the KTM690 but you actually get to the ground a lot easier on the PR7. I regret choosing the KTM because although it is technically quicker than the pr7 it takes more money to deck it out for touring
Just saying I love the adverts. Normally I skip through the embedded adverts, but you seem to pick and choose who you'll work with and only bring interesting and useful stuff. I did stop this advert, so I could turn the resolution up and rewind to the beginning.
I was very close to grabbing a used PR7 last year. I was just gun-shy because there aren't enough of them around in the US, dealers, etc. Cool bike though!!!
Excellent video as always! I’ve been looking at this Bike for a while. Unfortunately not available in the USA at least not yet. Personally I love it t and would love to ride it.
2023 model here and sans issues after >6k kms mostly enduro type riding with some long tar too. Some of the older bikes had fuel filter/pump concerns that have been addressed by new parts - what year is yours?
I love this bike. Simple, light and it makes sense. It also great value for money. Hmmm… Yamaha T7 or PR7…? Thanks for the video. There’s not a lot of good reviews out there even though this bike has been around for a while now👍
A tablet would be fine but it doesn't look very bright. Yes you do need to muck with the suspension (in addition to a bunch of other stuff) of the 690 to match the PR7... think "$20k usd or so" to get there (at least that's what it cost me... but I have 2 ktm shops in a 35minute ride and the closes AJP shop is a couple hours). the PR7 is a great bike.
Interested in the AJP ever since I first stumbled across it. Very interesting concept and very detailed (off road) review in this video. But how does it handle on the street, especially at highway speeds etc? Since it is still (at least marketed as) an adventure bike, there will be some road travelling until you get to the off-road spots, at least for most of us ;)
Alre, Salir and Tor , just north of Loule. 100s of Kms of trails created by dozens to harvest Cork once every decade . Just keep an eye out for Tourist Jeep Safaris bumping along at walking speed when coming round blind corners fast. 3 nice Moro X tracks in the area as well.
I am Llel Pavey. I am a Moto journalist based in the UK. My dad is Simon Pavey. He was a good Dakar rider. He finished 8 from 10 starts. I finished one from one.
fine review, these old 4S Hva /SVVM blocks are really good : i mean 250, 300, 500, 610 ..... Why didnot you put " AJP PR7" in title? If I could I'd bought it :)
Nice review, it reinforces another good review of the AGP I've watched. How does the gearing compare to the KTM690? Particularly on the low end where many KTM 690 owners have replaced the rear sprocket with one with an extra tooth.
Wonderful to hear your thoughts on this bike. I only tried the "non-gold edition" and it's great! However, I would really prefer this bike without the tablet. Question: Are enduro bikes better for tight turns? It would be GREAT to see you ride and review the AJP SPR 510R. :)
@@BrakeMagazine I want to enjoy the scenery while riding and take a break from screens, so when I ride it's either with no digital devices or with the Beeline Moto. Any chance you would review the AJP 510? I'm really curious about that bike, and highly value your opinion.
This bike has all the ingredients of the class leader but here in Australia, you never see them for sale or hear about them. The problems mentioned in these comments allude to the reasons why it is a failure, including lack of dealers and support. The boat has well and truly left, here the CFMOtO 450 is now a runaway winner and the RE450 Himalayan will be snapping at its heals and the 390 Adventure is soon coming out.
Having ridden an AJP PR7 quite abit, and having had to tow one 120km behind another husky amid an 8000km dirt trip through Aus, comparison between it and heavy, slow, limited travel turds like the 390 adv, himalayan and CF450 is disrepectful to the PR7. The PR7 is a serious bike capable of serious speed and punishment off road safely. Now admittedly we had one blow a head gasket 150km from the nearest town resulting in an labourous off road tow but I'd expect it was operator error post a lazy coolant flush & change amid trip frankly, I also saw this same owner abuse, overload and crash this same PR7 over 20 times, some at decent pace too (multiple sets of bent bars etc.) and I even got it through some hard enduro style terrain when I dragged the same mate threw some tracks I take my Beta on. I would actually own a PR7 as an only bike and ride the pants off it anywhere, given what abuse and neglect I saw that bike take (not his though it's flogged). Frankly if you're the kind of person worried about dealer support and services/maintnenance being done for you - this bike and lumping it in with the likes of a drz400, ktm 390, cf450 himilayan & other random bikes you can ride on the dirt is probably a fair concern - this bike in my view is aimed more at owners that have the skills/experience to strip any dirtbike/anywhere, would never trust a dealer touching a bike their ride at pace and remotely and are looking for the performance of a rally/heavy enduro bike with the durability closer to touring adventure bikes. My experience cetainly suggests it is a brilliant machine and one I'd happily,/probably will own amidst others here in Aus when I have the room/cash :)
I was on the point of getting one around 3 yrs ago but my nearest dealer was somewhat less than confidence inspiring. They couldn't/wouldn't make a demonstrator available and i wasn't prepared to slap (in the region of) £10k on the table with out trying it so game over..🙄 I still think it's a lovely bike though. 👌
At my local dealer they had two new ones in the showroom, and the salesman couldn't get either to start. Just the same noise as my horrible old Husky 610. Lost interest at that point, and now have a GasGasES700. Seeing this video, perhaps I should have been less hasty...
Did you check the service intervalls? Crazy! The engine needs a service every 5000km including valve check, the rest of the bike is at 3000km intervalls. AJP wants all these services to be performed by an authorized workshop. So they expect you to be at the workshop at 1000, 3000, 5000, 6000, 9000, 10.000, 12.000, 15.000, 18.000 and finally at 20.000 (if you do as the manual claims) when the complete valve drive needs an overhaul (including timing chain). Wtf??? There won't be time left to ride that thing! Now imagine the trip I did this year: three weeks, 7000km, from Stockholm to Albania and back. Three services required. No thanks. Quote from manual: "It is owner’s responsibility to assure that the motorcycle is serviced within the periodic maintenance schedule, in an authorized dealer workshop (preferably at the dealership where the vehicle was purchased). AJP does not take responsibility for any damage if maintenance was not performed as recommended schedule, which can lead to lose the warranty."
You can ride it, I am 5'2 with a 26.5 inch inseam. I have one and I love it !!! I did lower the suspension 50mm both rear and front. At 125 pounds I don't need all that suspension travel anyways.
My concern is if the bike got broke will be a lot harder to repair. In remote places people ride Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki's , 125cc till 350 cc mostly. The answer is to modify popular dual purpose bikes with top parts . That way repair can be done in far way isolate places ...... Africa, Brasil , etc.
Amazingly, I've liked all the bikes I've owned, but wouldn't go back to one. I think it's possibel to get a new bike at the technology level of my old bikes. Some I would be more inclined to take some places and others not.
Never seen a video with this guy before. But damn it sure sounds like he knows what he is talking about! :-) Ofcause I hated the add in the middle. But on youtube thank god you can skip. How is it on paper a regression?
A great concept. It rides nice because it's got Ohlins from OEM but it lacks any real parts or dealer support in larger markets and it's far too expensive for what it is. Drop the tablet in favor of a basic bitch digital dash, swap out the Ohlin's for conventional Showa 49 forks, knock the MSRP down to no more than $7k with an out-the-door less than $8, offer the tablet and Ohlins suspension as a premium add-on package or as a special edition and I don't think they'd be able to make enough of them. However even then my choice for 'we have rally bike at home' role would still be a 2019-2023 (pre-TFT display) Tenere 700 with a 100% aftermarket suspension solution.
I mean, getting this out the door for 7K sans developing world labour is wild. Also, making a T7 like this is probably near impossible. There is a very big weight difference.
All I'm going to say is more than a third the cost of that machine can be directly attributed to the ohlins suspension while a 690 variant is the better dual sport and the Tenere is the better 'adventure' bike. Faced with that reality, who is their target demographic?
Accurate. Having ridden an AJP PR7 quite abit, and having had to tow one 120km behind another husky amid an 8000km dirt trip through Aus, any comparisons between it and heavy, slow, limited travel turds like the 390 adv, himalayan and CF450 is disrepectful to the PR7. The PR7 is a serious bike capable of serious speed and punishment off road safely. Now admittedly we had one blow a head gasket 120km from the nearest town amid said trip but I'd expect it was operator error post a lazy coolant flush & change amid trip frankly, I also saw this same owner abuse, overload and crash this same PR7 over 20 times, some at decent pace too (multiple sets of bent bars etc.) and I even got it through some hard enduro style terrain when I dragged the same mate threw some tracks I take my Beta on. I would actually own a PR7 as an only bike and ride the pants off it anywhere, given what abuse and neglect I saw that bike take (not his though it's flogged). Frankly if you're the kind of person worried about dealer support and services/maintnenance being done for you - this bike and lumping it in with the likes of a drz400, ktm 390, cf450 himilayan & other random bikes you can ride on the dirt is probably a fair concern - this bike in my view is aimed more at owners that have the skills/experience to strip any dirtbike/anywhere, would never trust a dealer touching a bike their ride at pace and remotely and are looking for the performance of a rally/heavy enduro bike with the durability closer to touring adventure bikes. Brilliant machine even if I did hate the sight of one after having it tied to my footpegg for 120km back to Arkaroola :P
I moved to Portugal 5 years ago…. I flipping love it here!
*The trails, the food, the clean air, the kind people, the low crime, the weather … I could go on*
Pretty rad part of the world. Where did you move from?
same here. I moved from New York...what a change for the better and the trails...just wow and Morocco is very close 👌
@@mototrailz That's a huge change!
The smoking, the constant barking dogs, the unfavourable tax system, the ageing population...
@@transmitthis sounds like you are due fir a ride my friend 😁
Finally someone mentions Lyndon and R2P, absolute ADV legend, more ppl need to watch Races to places :)
As a Portuguese, I never expected you to review an AJP!!!!
If it's cool and we can get one, we'll review it!
AJP is more popular than you think, I'm in Serbia and everyone who is into off road riding knows about it.
@@OriginalUsername9000 AJP is known and loved everywhere but Portugal. It's sad :/
@@ricardoneto13 também temos, por cá, quem reconheça e aprecie as qualidades da PR7
@@primeira_milha era uma generalização, tens de concordar que a AJP merecia muita mais apoio por cá. Mas infelizmente é quase sempre a última escolha 🤷♂️ Seja a PR7 ou os modelos de Enduro
Great to see you testing the PR7. I've had mine since 2019 and it's been a fantastic UK / Euro TET bike and held it's own on Illyria Raid as well. The engine is old but a real treat and will both tractor on the torque and rev high when you want to fly....but the real beauty of the bike is the chassis which is so stable at speed, accepting your caveat of a very small turning circle. Fitted a Tractive rally shock with remote preload to mine to stiffen up the rear, which also makes it feel more planted at the front and and allows quick adjustments when carrying luggage ( wine box plus extra water for the next day = 1 extra click rear preload 😄).
I've had an AJP. Never again, sadly. Spares in UK were a nightmare, despite the various UK agents being decent people trying their best.
this is without a doubt the best motorcycle you tube channel, what hooked me was the cinematic quality of the Aprilla Tuareg review..........just incredible
Very kind words 🥹
I've been owning this bike for 13 months now, done 7500km (about 5000 offroad) including 2x week long trips.
Let me say a couple of words about what met my expectations and what didn't.
Mine is standard version, no power-up kit. Same rear tire as in the video, similar front one.
Okay, let me start from the disapointments:
RELIABILITY and parts quality. I wish I could make this bold here. So far the bike has been towed to the AJP "dealership" twice. Barely came home on its own 3 times.
One injector changed (warranty claim pending), one "free" dealership repair, aftermarket fuel pump (not as an upgrade but as a must to keep the bike working).
I've had fuel issues since the bike was 5 months old. Injector died, fuel pump died. My country has good fuel quality as far as I know.
Exhaust is very disappointing. Sounds like a chinese 4t 125 moped. Ridiculous. Pipes become rusty instantly. I really mean instantly, after first ride.
I'm sure it was developed and tested by a tall rider. This is not my case, I'm rather short/mid.Gear lever is ridiculous not only by its positioning for very large feet but also by its design very prone to damage (length being one of them).
Steering angle is indeed pathetic. However, my bike came with adjustment screws pretty wide open so that I nearly crashed when riding first couple of meters. After adjusting them to max possible angle it is bearable but could be better.
A lot of parts is not accessible outside AJP factory and this lot is full of parts you're very likely to break (e.g. gear and both brake leves, mirrors ).
Now why I love this bike:
HANDLING is as good as promised. PR7 is a dream in that matter, I believe. This really feels like a 350 enduro, yet has very adventure-friendly features. Very offroad capable, I can feel it's gonna take long time for me to be able to ride 100% juice out of this bike. The tablet is slow but once warmed up becomes ok for the nav. Browsing apps, internet is possible but not comfortable. Pre-installed and lifetime paid DMD2 app is spectacular! Outstanding compared other apps I've tried. Direct answer to dual sport riders' needs. Seat is comfy, I've once done 8 hours net of asphalt riding one day and felt no pain the next day.
Even in standard version power is sufficient. I wish low throttle control was better but maybe this is what single cyl engines do.
Take the power up kit. It is expensive but a must, solving 2 major problems.
Summing it up, it's a bike with design focus massively aimed at rider, not engineer which has pros and cons.
Low throttle problem tends to be emissions. 701 Husky I'ved ridden alot became like a new bike with PowerCommander and good tune. Gone are the annoying traits of dying when slowing down for stop and coughing on low rpm's, Just smooth and easy low/midrange. Also the ON/OFF throttle jerkines was taken care and works more like a carb.
This. All of it, wonderful.
Glad someone told it how it really is and some miles to back up the claims 👌👏. Made my decision as easy as possible 😝🤣😂. Just another cool “ knock off “ adventure/rally bike 🤦♂️👎
Thanks for the genuine feedback,very expensive bike here and don't really want to contend with such issues.
Yes. It was spares (un)availability that put me off buying one in Australia…quite a few sold theirs because they were fed up with poor local support
There is something about AJP bikes, about their simplicity and their way to ride… when in Japan I used to ride a PR4 Extreme and far from being the best bike on the trail, it has this magical power of making you the best rider you could be! I loved it!
i have seen AJP first time in 2006-2007 years in POrtugal.. i loved it. i feel in love with them.. only 125cc bikes were out... --- it is nice to AJP still alive!
Just about time you did a segment on this awesome piece of machinery. So little content about this bike out there, thank you!
Thanks for visiting my country. I hope you had a great time and enjoyed our food and hospitality.
I love your country
Rode a Standard one today for a couple of miles offroad. Deeply impressed. What a leisurely and competent bike. Mr. Pinto used top-act parts and mixed them together like a world-class chief. The whole riding experience is better than the single parts. Your impressions of that AJP PR7 are spot on, Llel. Wish that more people would get the chance to ride it, what a wonderful bike! Günter/Nürnberg
I know which PR7 you rode!!! I loved watching you enjoy my PR7 as much as you did Gunter @enduromotorradtouren!!!
@@gsj-66 What an experience, Jack!
I own this bike. Dirt, sand, gravel... I really enjoy riding this bike. I'm not very experienced rider and I feel most confident riding this one offroad.
Good to hear!
That’s cool man, did it cost you 20 Grand? 💰
In what currency?
@@BrakeMagazine 🇺🇸
The DMD2 is a joy, mine goes with me on every bike i have.
There is one very important point to make about the DMD2, the support, if you join the DMD2 user groups on the Web or Facebook and report an issue, the very developers are there on these groups and more often than not, a fix is out quicker than a shake of a lamb's' tail.
If you don't ride the AJP, don't worry, the DMD2 is available to buy in two formats, the tablet or phone sizes and if you have your own Android device, you can install the software on to that, so you don't even need to buy the hardware, having said that I'd always recommend the hardwere route as it's a tough bit of kit.
As you might have guessed, I'm a big fanboy of the DMD2 and I've used all of the other GPS platforms.
We always enjoy your vids this one was really great not cus of the bike, location or review but simply when you said your dad rides and Dakar in particular. I'm sure he is proud as punch to see your motorcycle ventures and success on UA-cam. Rock on mate.
Crikey Llewellyn, you almost got me regretting buying my 690 back in 2020 instead of a PR7. Cracking video stunning bike but after countless trips and many many miles the 690 and myself are stuck with each other 👌🏻
Good choice!
I saw one in the flesh here in Sydney last week - my DR-Z was jealous that I'd looked at such a sexy dirt bike
I bought my standard PR7 in May 24...the only PR7 actually available in Germany at that time. I have enjoyed this bike more than anything else I ride since I bought it including my HP2 Enduro. I have not been on a single cylinder big bore in more than 15 years and coming from big ADV bikes this bike is a revelation. I keep waiting for something to break or go wrong but so far its been almost perfect. As we get to the cold weather in my first year of ownership I'm waiting for the cold start issues to begin. I have had an occasional warm start issue but just a bit of extra starter time a pop then she goes...and this is only random. The Samsung pad itself may not be the latest tech, but it work pretty darn good and the DMD2 installed is fabulous. I will upgrade to a real unit over the winter because I want a real computer to use between the PR7 and the HP2. I will just use the A7 for personal use after that or as a backup. All of my fellow riding buddies have begged me to ride it (because finally this bike is getting reasonably well known and drooled over) and all come away liking it (most of them are on large ADV bikes). I will likely get a T7 next year, kit it out the way I like, and use that for larger touring and keep the AJP for short and mid distance riding and tours. Fingers crossed it stays this good for the foreseeable future!! Great video Brake Magazine!!
I want one. I'll say it as many times as needed, it's the only bike that would replace my T7 if it was sold here in Canada.
Same here.
AJP PR7 is available in Washington state USA at Everett power sports. Sat on one in their showroom.
How much? I’m in Oregon.
The PR7 has been on ny wishlist ever since I was able to demo ride it offroad for an hour. I'm saving up for it... But now I want the gold edition even more!
I have owned my 21 plate PR7 for nearly 2 years, and these bikes are not as reliable as you say! You should check the owners group pages for more info. The crank cases are made of cheese, and sadly quite a few of us owners have had them crack, and AJP wants nothing to do with it! The mapping on these bikes has taken a very long time to get right and I still have flame out issues on mine!, and that's with the very latest map! I f'ing love this bike for how it feels and how it handles but it is far from a bike I would trust to take on long travels (Which is why I wanted it in the first place!)
I think this is likely always going to be a problem. I'm intrigued as to the problems with the mapping? The one I rode was rock solid. It's very 2014, but it wasn't a problem.
What's happened with the Crank Cases? When I mentioned reliability, I was talking about he original design of the Husky motor, not specifically this engine.
@@BrakeMagazine The crank case issue seems to be related to the head bolts being overtightned at factory. it's not 100% confirmed at this point as the owners are still trying to work it out, I do know it cost the last onwer 1100 euros to fix the issue himself. I feel that since SWM tock over the factory in Italy, standards have dropped and they just don't care!
As for the mapping, my flame out issue seems to be very rare, which for most owners is a good thing, but personally I am very frustrated and just want to ride the bike without worring all the time.
As an swm owner, I think some of what makes me sceptical with AJP is they sorce there engine from swm yes it's an old Husqvarna engine but still needs a little R&D work to make it wright! I would never recommend anyone to have to deal with swm they have just cloned the old Husqvarna platform but have fitted very poor quality plastics to disguise this and have cheaper out on certain parts and don't respond to feedback or issues that are raised, AJP seem to make a good quality product but are unfortunately tied to SWM! Just my opinion!
Excellent edit as always Llel. Everyone I know that has ridden an AJP loves the thing. I might have to get one.
You really make some nice videos. Cheers!!
Glad you like them!
Would love to see you guys take this bike apart to rebuild it into something customised for a specific event.
I currently own a 21’ with the power kit, 16kkm. The one thing that I really dislike about it is the absolute trash of the kick stand…I had it welded 2times this year to fix the tabs, last one was in Hungary. And of course the fuel cap, I tried to clip the rubber gasket on it but that didn’t resolve anything so the elongated fuel neck was a must. I am a bit broad shouldered and my elbows tend to obstruct at least 3/4 of the rear view mirrors for street riding.
Other than that the bike handles really good, on the street and in the dirt with a 50/50rear tire and a motocross front.
I wanted this bike for so long. At least so long as it exsists. Rode with someone who has one about 2 years ago. No way my 6'8" extremely non-average-bear will even fit this bike with whatever mods. It felt kinda tiny? But it was a great bike and i've recommended it to many just because it's good everywhere and 'enough'.
I agree. ☝️
Great review - the PR7 is my unicorn after having a fantastic Tuareg and before that a highly enjoyable V85TT.. yes for my riding lighter is better, yet the AJP sits on 120km/h just fine, a little over 5k rpm in 6th - the balance shaft just works 😊
Never had a problem with the turning circle myself 🤔
Super reliable on a number of multi day trips..😅
No PR7 here, but our bike path seems the same so far. V85 and now a Tuareg. Both great bikes in their own ways.
@@dustyroadsnl Yes I would have kept the Tuareg yet moved to the country so now the dirt is close by - whereas in the city it was an hour + away and the twin made more sense. Also the dirt has single tracks worth exploring too and hence lighter is better..
Great bike, early ones had some issues but they seam to have sorted out those problems. I like that its got little to no electronics and rides like an enduro but is comfortable like an adventure bike. Very similar to riding a 690/701 set up for adventure.
Exactly, but with great suspension 😂
Lovely bike, wanted one, but surprisingly small for my 6ft 5in frame. Went with the Kove in the end that fitted like a glove
I’m not surprised. I would want a tall seat for sure.
Great review. Well done. Own a 2020 PR7. Doesn't come with the Ohlins, but the ZF Sachs do a great job, also. Great machine, with some things here and there, but overall, a very good adventure bike, that will probably take you anywhere on the planet.
What I see by far is an Italian bike with an old Husvqarna engine. I bet it's a solid bike for sure. I'd buy one
Well.. this is quality. I couldn’t agree more.. i wish I could be as articulate!
PS.. There must be something wrong with mine, it doesn’t wheelie like that and it can’t possibly be me. 😬
My unicorn bike to upgrade from a Tenere 660Z, that great go around the world on machine. one day I will own one, super rare secondhand in the uk tho. Missed one at a dealer a couple of months ago, some day I’ll have one, and yet again another great video 👌
welcome to my family neck of the woods. Nothing like a pitstop in Miramar Malhão after a bike ride over there. great video
You got that right! Thanks for the welcomeB
I own a PR7 since 2017; 22k km not problems at all. The bes adv bike I ve ever had. really great
Stunning video. As always.
wonderful video! congrats! great analysis!
Another god level review! Every time a biger surprise and this time at my country! Thanks!
Such kind words! Thanks for the awesome country!
They used to be a screaming deal, like $10K in the US. Those days are gone. I had one, briefly. I didn't gel with it at all. Not the right bike for ME. Where I live, where I ride, how I ride, etc. It was my dream bike, guess i'm not living the dream life though. It found a better home, better trails, better rider. Win win. I do think you need to have a dealer close by, even if it's older technology and 'easy' to wrench on, having a new bike with a warranty doesn't help if there's not a dealer around. I still consider getting one of their smaller bikes just to ride some dirt. They aren't cheap anymore, but good value for the money.
Have ridden one from MHB Motorcycles in Cumbria and it was brilliant. Riding one around its ‘back yard’ looks like a great place to do it though. Great review
One significant difference between the gold edition and the regular one:
the standard clutch lever is a Magura unit, where the gold edition is Brembo. The Brembo is SIGNIFICANTLY lighter and easier to use.
Officially the seat height is higher than the KTM690 but you actually get to the ground a lot easier on the PR7. I regret choosing the KTM because although it is technically quicker than the pr7 it takes more money to deck it out for touring
It's not made by Magura sadly, it's a chinese copy.
I have a 2024 standard model and they come with brembo clutch.
@@nicolasfarbos5381 Yes new models now comw with a Brembo master cylinder and an Oberon slave, very nice indeed!
Amen 🙌🙌
Just saying I love the adverts. Normally I skip through the embedded adverts, but you seem to pick and choose who you'll work with and only bring interesting and useful stuff. I did stop this advert, so I could turn the resolution up and rewind to the beginning.
Well shit man. I do appreciate that. We do only work with products and people we actually like. ❤️
I was very close to grabbing a used PR7 last year. I was just gun-shy because there aren't enough of them around in the US, dealers, etc. Cool bike though!!!
Awesome Bike, awesome video as always!
I switched to twin cylinders after having ridden 100k on old thumpers. Not sure there is a way back for me.
I agree. That twin life is pretty nice!
Between Husky and SWM, BMW put a balance shaft in this motor - smoothest thumper I've ridden and, IMO, why it lives up to the adventure name
Another great and informative review.... always enjoy your fantastic post. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks again!
Excellent video as always! I’ve been looking at this Bike for a while. Unfortunately not available in the USA at least not yet. Personally I love it t and would love to ride it.
Import one my man!
@@BrakeMagazine just might! Or 10!
Would love to see the AJP brand more available in North America. Not available here in Canada unfortunately.
2023 model here and sans issues after >6k kms mostly enduro type riding with some long tar too.
Some of the older bikes had fuel filter/pump concerns that have been addressed by new parts - what year is yours?
I love this bike. Simple, light and it makes sense. It also great value for money. Hmmm… Yamaha T7 or PR7…? Thanks for the video. There’s not a lot of good reviews out there even though this bike has been around for a while now👍
I would say, you’re looking at very different tools.
A tablet would be fine but it doesn't look very bright.
Yes you do need to muck with the suspension (in addition to a bunch of other stuff) of the 690 to match the PR7... think "$20k usd or so" to get there (at least that's what it cost me... but I have 2 ktm shops in a 35minute ride and the closes AJP shop is a couple hours). the PR7 is a great bike.
For reference I could read the tablet in the mid day sun in Portugal just fine. 😊
Interested in the AJP ever since I first stumbled across it. Very interesting concept and very detailed (off road) review in this video. But how does it handle on the street, especially at highway speeds etc? Since it is still (at least marketed as) an adventure bike, there will be some road travelling until you get to the off-road spots, at least for most of us ;)
I loved the AJp but was fortunate enough to get a great deal on a Fantic XEF459 rally. I'd love to here your to thoughts on that?
Great video!!! How does it compare with the Suzuki 800De?
I'm a Portuguese rider, and I have no idea where you're riding.
Nice review of that great bike.
You are! It is in the Algarve ☺️
Alre, Salir and Tor , just north of Loule. 100s of Kms of trails created by dozens to harvest Cork once every decade . Just keep an eye out for Tourist Jeep Safaris bumping along at walking speed when coming round blind corners fast. 3 nice Moro X tracks in the area as well.
This is THE unicorn.
Have the standard 2022 model. Great bike.
Very nice!
AJP is not available in North America, so i made a WR450 similar, happy with every thing except fuel capacity.
Yöu can install a large one..available..
That's a shame but also not a surprise.
It is, I looked at one 2 years back, the dealer was a meat head so I passed.
Are we going to see Kove 450 Rally review soon😊?
A rally themed video...say no more!
🙌 Amen!
Great video, thanks!
I am from the USA, who is the presenter.And was his dad a famous paris / dakar racer
I am Llel Pavey. I am a Moto journalist based in the UK. My dad is Simon Pavey. He was a good Dakar rider. He finished 8 from 10 starts.
I finished one from one.
@@BrakeMagazinefinishing 80% is famous! Cheers
😂
fine review, these old 4S Hva /SVVM blocks are really good : i mean 250, 300, 500, 610 .....
Why didnot you put " AJP PR7" in title? If I could I'd bought it :)
Because If I put AJP PR7 in the title no one will watch it. It is how UA-cam works sadly
Nice review, it reinforces another good review of the AGP I've watched. How does the gearing compare to the KTM690? Particularly on the low end where many KTM 690 owners have replaced the rear sprocket with one with an extra tooth.
It's fine, no issues, I've ridden one sitting on 125kph for 3 hours and the same bike doing pivot turns log hops.
Only competition I think is the Kove 450 Rally.
Wonderful to hear your thoughts on this bike. I only tried the "non-gold edition" and it's great! However, I would really prefer this bike without the tablet. Question: Are enduro bikes better for tight turns? It would be GREAT to see you ride and review the AJP SPR 510R. :)
Why no tablet? The DMD2 app is so damn good.
Yes, they typically are easier to turn around.
@@BrakeMagazine I want to enjoy the scenery while riding and take a break from screens, so when I ride it's either with no digital devices or with the Beeline Moto.
Any chance you would review the AJP 510? I'm really curious about that bike, and highly value your opinion.
I had a Husky 610sm-fearsome bike-but it did drop a valve at high altitude in Ecuador
Did it? That is sad. You don’t hear many issues with them!
@@BrakeMagazine This was a very early model and Quito has high altitude and poor fuel!
This bike has all the ingredients of the class leader but here in Australia, you never see them for sale or hear about them. The problems mentioned in these comments allude to the reasons why it is a failure, including lack of dealers and support. The boat has well and truly left, here the CFMOtO 450 is now a runaway winner and the RE450 Himalayan will be snapping at its heals and the 390 Adventure is soon coming out.
I can see why. The CF is our next review to be out and it’s got a lot going for it
@@BrakeMagazineAUD $10k ride away.
Having ridden an AJP PR7 quite abit, and having had to tow one 120km behind another husky amid an 8000km dirt trip through Aus, comparison between it and heavy, slow, limited travel turds like the 390 adv, himalayan and CF450 is disrepectful to the PR7. The PR7 is a serious bike capable of serious speed and punishment off road safely. Now admittedly we had one blow a head gasket 150km from the nearest town resulting in an labourous off road tow but I'd expect it was operator error post a lazy coolant flush & change amid trip frankly, I also saw this same owner abuse, overload and crash this same PR7 over 20 times, some at decent pace too (multiple sets of bent bars etc.) and I even got it through some hard enduro style terrain when I dragged the same mate threw some tracks I take my Beta on. I would actually own a PR7 as an only bike and ride the pants off it anywhere, given what abuse and neglect I saw that bike take (not his though it's flogged). Frankly if you're the kind of person worried about dealer support and services/maintnenance being done for you - this bike and lumping it in with the likes of a drz400, ktm 390, cf450 himilayan & other random bikes you can ride on the dirt is probably a fair concern - this bike in my view is aimed more at owners that have the skills/experience to strip any dirtbike/anywhere, would never trust a dealer touching a bike their ride at pace and remotely and are looking for the performance of a rally/heavy enduro bike with the durability closer to touring adventure bikes. My experience cetainly suggests it is a brilliant machine and one I'd happily,/probably will own amidst others here in Aus when I have the room/cash :)
What's the maintenance interval on these?
If I’m not mistaken it’s 6000km.
5000 including valves - yet easy to do. Many extend that interval quite a bit once run in..
That's the bike Itchy boots wanted - instead it's that awesome ténére now - but hey, precision tools for the expected job.
Would a Kove be a fair comparison?
Kinda, yeah.
Would love to see ajp in Canada. We have kove but not AJP dealers. Maddness.
I was on the point of getting one around 3 yrs ago but my nearest dealer was somewhat less than confidence inspiring. They couldn't/wouldn't make a demonstrator available and i wasn't prepared to slap (in the region of) £10k on the table with out trying it so game over..🙄 I still think it's a lovely bike though. 👌
I’m not surprised. It’s a pretty small brand and the kind of dealer service you might get from a mainstream is probably not gonna happen.
At my local dealer they had two new ones in the showroom, and the salesman couldn't get either to start.
Just the same noise as my horrible old Husky 610.
Lost interest at that point, and now have a GasGasES700.
Seeing this video, perhaps I should have been less hasty...
Have you had a chance to ride the Kove 450 rally?
Not yet. Hoping to after Xmas!
@@BrakeMagazine New years resolution? 😃
Dakar bikes have fuel capacity, Does the AJP?
17 litre under the seat
ask @McMartin about this bike, he´s almost in love
Pavey's boy :)
I own the “normal” version. I will never get any other bike again for adventure offroad riding. Coming from a ktm 1090 adv r.
Did you check the service intervalls? Crazy! The engine needs a service every 5000km including valve check, the rest of the bike is at 3000km intervalls. AJP wants all these services to be performed by an authorized workshop. So they expect you to be at the workshop at 1000, 3000, 5000, 6000, 9000, 10.000, 12.000, 15.000, 18.000 and finally at 20.000 (if you do as the manual claims) when the complete valve drive needs an overhaul (including timing chain). Wtf??? There won't be time left to ride that thing! Now imagine the trip I did this year: three weeks, 7000km, from Stockholm to Albania and back. Three services required. No thanks.
Quote from manual: "It is owner’s responsibility to assure that the motorcycle is serviced within the periodic maintenance schedule, in an authorized
dealer workshop (preferably at the dealership where the vehicle was purchased). AJP does not take responsibility for any damage if maintenance was not performed as recommended schedule, which can lead to lose the warranty."
I think they’re covering themselves. In reality it will be way more.
Thoughts vs 690s?
Depends. Im not the biggest 690 fan unless you’re gonna make it into this bike. But then to make it like this is gonna cost some serious dough.
@@BrakeMagazineAbout to get one Gold one soon. Great video (as always 😊)
How tall are you? ?
187cm
I would call that a dual-sport or enduro
🙏🍩 Really enjoyed This 🍩🙏
So glad!
5'4 me that occasionally struggles on a 77.5 cm seat drooling over this :(
😂😂
You can ride it, I am 5'2 with a 26.5 inch inseam. I have one and I love it !!! I did lower the suspension 50mm both rear and front. At 125 pounds I don't need all that suspension travel anyways.
My dream bike but they can’t street certify it in Canada
My concern is if the bike got broke will be a lot harder to repair. In remote places people ride Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki's , 125cc till 350 cc mostly. The answer is to modify popular dual purpose bikes with top parts . That way repair can be done in far way isolate places ...... Africa, Brasil , etc.
Sure, but this is a bike for people to know how to repair it themselves.
Your comment about society “floating by sweet spots” is dead accurate in a lot of ways…
Well thanks man 😂
Amazingly, I've liked all the bikes I've owned, but wouldn't go back to one. I think it's possibel to get a new bike at the technology level of my old bikes. Some I would be more inclined to take some places and others not.
Left my 360 pro on a fecking wall in Hackney whilst revisiting my despatching history last month-bugger
I compare my KTM 640 adventure as the affordable AJP PR7
you had me at 60 hp on 175 wet weight
The U-turn….is somehow fixable :-)
OK, prices are going to go up...
That exhaust looks a bit vulnerable
It's Rally style.
For an adventure bike, all the road stuff are missing from the review.
Highway, mountain roads, city, and so on.
It’s fine. It’s better than you think but it’s not a road bike.
Never seen a video with this guy before. But damn it sure sounds like he knows what he is talking about! :-)
Ofcause I hated the add in the middle. But on youtube thank god you can skip.
How is it on paper a regression?
A great concept.
It rides nice because it's got Ohlins from OEM but it lacks any real parts or dealer support in larger markets and it's far too expensive for what it is.
Drop the tablet in favor of a basic bitch digital dash, swap out the Ohlin's for conventional Showa 49 forks, knock the MSRP down to no more than $7k with an out-the-door less than $8, offer the tablet and Ohlins suspension as a premium add-on package or as a special edition and I don't think they'd be able to make enough of them.
However even then my choice for 'we have rally bike at home' role would still be a 2019-2023 (pre-TFT display) Tenere 700 with a 100% aftermarket suspension solution.
I mean, getting this out the door for 7K sans developing world labour is wild.
Also, making a T7 like this is probably near impossible. There is a very big weight difference.
It's not expensive at all....
All I'm going to say is more than a third the cost of that machine can be directly attributed to the ohlins suspension while a 690 variant is the better dual sport and the Tenere is the better 'adventure' bike.
Faced with that reality, who is their target demographic?
Accurate. Having ridden an AJP PR7 quite abit, and having had to tow one 120km behind another husky amid an 8000km dirt trip through Aus, any comparisons between it and heavy, slow, limited travel turds like the 390 adv, himalayan and CF450 is disrepectful to the PR7. The PR7 is a serious bike capable of serious speed and punishment off road safely. Now admittedly we had one blow a head gasket 120km from the nearest town amid said trip but I'd expect it was operator error post a lazy coolant flush & change amid trip frankly, I also saw this same owner abuse, overload and crash this same PR7 over 20 times, some at decent pace too (multiple sets of bent bars etc.) and I even got it through some hard enduro style terrain when I dragged the same mate threw some tracks I take my Beta on. I would actually own a PR7 as an only bike and ride the pants off it anywhere, given what abuse and neglect I saw that bike take (not his though it's flogged). Frankly if you're the kind of person worried about dealer support and services/maintnenance being done for you - this bike and lumping it in with the likes of a drz400, ktm 390, cf450 himilayan & other random bikes you can ride on the dirt is probably a fair concern - this bike in my view is aimed more at owners that have the skills/experience to strip any dirtbike/anywhere, would never trust a dealer touching a bike their ride at pace and remotely and are looking for the performance of a rally/heavy enduro bike with the durability closer to touring adventure bikes. Brilliant machine even if I did hate the sight of one after having it tied to my footpegg for 120km back to Arkaroola :P
I honestly couldn’t agree more with this entire comment
👍 brilliant
Thank you! Cheers!
Still no ABS? It was the biggest issue for me when I was looking for the new bike - safety on tarmac is important
Same issue for me. I ended up with a KTM690 instead which I am very happy with. However I have indeed spent more “adventurising” it.
Why was the ABS so important? The ABS on the 690 is pretty poor and useless off road.
I've been riding for over 40 years, if you can't ride without ABS i suggest learning to ride better...
@@BrakeMagazine I want ABS for the (wet) road, not off road.
@@MickH60 Call it a security blanket by all means.