Nice comparison, had a 690 for several years before the 790R and 890R. Just loved it. Been riding the PR7 on extended testrides and i really like it. It really comes as a very capable package out of the box. Keep it up! ✊️✊️
Thanks a ton and hello the States. I've been off-roading my KTM 990 since new in 08 and love, love, love it. However, it is getting older and so am I at 60. When I bought the 990, few knew what it was and that was kinda cool. The PR7 seems similar...especially in it's simplicity and fun to ride category. They are rare here in the States so seeing one, much less riding one is almost impossible. Therefore, these kinds of reviews are invaluable....thanks. I was wondering if the PR7 responds to smaller front or bigger rear sprockets to help in in slow, more technical terrain. I've done that to all my other ADV bikes and it has always helped. Thanks again for your video and looking forward to getting back down to your fantastic country. Cheers from the mountains, canyons, and deserts of Utah.
Hi Todd, thanks for your reply. To be honest I have not played around with the sprockets on my bike it is the stock gearing and it works for me. I agree with you on changing front and rear sprockets can help with a particular type of riding. I just use my AJP for big trips and ADV style riding, for this the stock gearing is perfect. If you were going to do some technical slower style riding I would increase the rear sprocket size as I feel like it adds a bit more torque down low that's my gut feel. I have just come back from a 4 day trip up into NSW which was my first trip back from a hip replacement so to say it was fun is an understatement. I do love the PR7 it is very easy to get along with. I would love to ride the BDR's you have in the States one day particularly Utah looks amazing. A great place to live for an ADV rider. Thanks for watching, Regards Steve
The PR7 was the only bike I seriously considered as an alternative to the 701e. I'm pretty sure I'd have been completely happy with the PR7 but I was worried about how far away the closest dealer was (2-3 hours vs. 35 minutes for the 701). But I did end up with the 701 and set it up for ADV (TAT/BDR riding in the US)... and at that sort of riding it IS very fast. I think these two bikes are probably likely to be the fastest bikes for long ADV tours on routes like US BDR's (at least with bigger guys)... possibly the Kove might be close and certainly the ktm 500's might also if you're willing to ignore dealer service intervals (I'm not), though the smaller bikes will struggle on fast dirt road and occasional paved sections we have to deal with. I did put a Scotts damper on the 701 and I'm glad I did... on silty/sandy roads I turn it up and it keeps hidden ruts from throwing me off like used to happen without the damper (or "as often" at least). Given how I tend to ride fast on offroad adv I think the 701 might be a BIT better fit for my riding style than the PR7... but as I said I think I'd have adjusted to the pr7.
@@kuhndj67 Yeah valid point's both these bikes you talk about are great options and only a few minor points seperating them. As U say access to a dealer or a bias to one sort of riding terrain can be enough to sway you. Both great bikes. Thanks for watching Regards Steve
I test rode all the KTM range (690, GG700, Husky701) on several occasions at different events and they never felt "right" to me and the motors were just not to my liking needing to rev like that. I rode the AJP one time at an event and was sold. I don't need the aggressiveness of the KTM line of bikes and the AJP comes with so much already in place vs the KTM lineup. I only needed to add a rear rack for loads and chose to update the fuel filler (ask any PR7 owner....your mates are filled up and on a second coffee when you finally get the PR7 filled stock) and will do a few other recommended changes but no major purchases for this bike to do what I like. Its easier to work on and super simple. Agree, you don't get ABS and riding modes, but you just have to keep that in mind when riding. All of my other ADV bikes are old 1st gen anyway with no technology so I'm used to it. Only issue is dealer network for most of world. Even here in western Europe its semi scarce but they are responsive (being a small company) to questions and parts requirements. I have about 4000km on my AJP and really enjoy it. I would rank it in the top 3 bikes out of over 50 I've owned for fun factor and man I do love when other riders or kids on the street give me a big thumbs up because it looks the part stock. Great videos on a little covered bike!!
@@gsj-66 Wow over 50 bikes and it's in your top 3... Glad to hear such positivity as I reckon this bike was made for me so glad it's suits other people as well 😉 Thanks for watching and the experienced comments Regards Steve
I've never ridden an AJP nor seen one in the flesh, and I've probably spent collectively an hour on a 690 which I was quite impressed with. I've owned a DR650 and frankly I sold it as it was hands down the most boring bike I've ever owned. But for me, with all that I've seen, read and heard, it'll be a PR7 for me when I have the funds to make it happen. I too like simple bikes and my limited experience with KTM ownership has not been great. Great comparison, thank you.
I went on the AJP site for a look, finding out that the bike costs over 19k in Australia turned me off straight up. I went 690, it still needs mods and is expensive in its own right. Should be comparing the 19 and up model.
Yeah agreed the price new is an issue for me as well. (Bought my AJP second hand so it was bargain) I was comparing the later model 690/701as I have owned the 2018 model but ridden two of the later 2019 on models. All the tech I talk about on the 690's is on the later models and not the bike I owned. The reality here is it is great to have these two offerings in Australia they really hit the mark for me on lots of levels. Sorry for the late reply forgot to get back to you on this one Regards Steve
Steve, I have to ask about vibrations to the grips and bars running single cylinders bikes between these two. Any feedback on the feedback of these two bikes? Lol, pardon the pun 😂
@@markrichardson8382 That is ripping pun. Yeah the 2018 690 might have a tad more vibration than the PR7 but that's mainly the bigger engine. Have ridden a couple of the later models with the extra counter balance shaft and effectively they are probably the same now. To be honest I don't notice any vibration as I don't grip the handle bars very tight. It is very minimal on both bikes I would say but I appreciate it is a very personal thing Thanks for watching Regards Steve
PR7. I rode the KTM range at several events (including Touratech Active Adventure and EAT ARC) where they had some challenging and rough test courses. Didn't like them on the slow technical sections and climbs. If I was going to live in the desert with wide open country, yes the KTM line I might go with (or not!!). But for fire roads, slow riding the AJP is just more comfortable, more neutral seating position and tractable motor.
Hi Bill, I have watched a lot of your video's on the PR7 which gave me confidence to buy one myself so thanks for that. I agree the PR7 is a better option and I certainly love mine. Thanks for watching, Regards Steve
Give it time and the pr7 will sell more and more … a lot of people want exactly of what that bike deliver… idon t have the money and i am short so crf300l for me but would really like one in the future What they should really do is a more off road version of it…no tower no tablet a tad less high 1.5 pound less expensive and would sell like chips…
@@silvioperugini5890 Yeah there's an interesting thought a enduro version I like it..... Price is an issue you are right. I bought mine second hand so it was not a concern for me but if I had to buy new.... Mmmmm Thanks for watching Regards Steve
@@dirtbikeadv nice you didn't bite, good aussie humour radar - of course a different bike to the pr7 🙂 they are nice them Portugese models and if my 500 ever lets go, who knows...
@@ogasi1798 Lmfao it's simple just respect other people's opinions. I'll be doing a vid on the 500 soon. My mate Brendan has one with a tower. Freakin awesome set up.
Nice comparison, had a 690 for several years before the 790R and 890R. Just loved it. Been riding the PR7 on extended testrides and i really like it. It really comes as a very capable package out of the box. Keep it up! ✊️✊️
Excellent fair comparison. AJP PR7 for me after owning 3x 690s. Good bikes but for al the reasons you stated PR7 tops them.
Good comparison based on real experience - thanks.
That said the PR7 is my unicorn too..
Thanks a ton and hello the States. I've been off-roading my KTM 990 since new in 08 and love, love, love it. However, it is getting older and so am I at 60. When I bought the 990, few knew what it was and that was kinda cool. The PR7 seems similar...especially in it's simplicity and fun to ride category. They are rare here in the States so seeing one, much less riding one is almost impossible. Therefore, these kinds of reviews are invaluable....thanks. I was wondering if the PR7 responds to smaller front or bigger rear sprockets to help in in slow, more technical terrain. I've done that to all my other ADV bikes and it has always helped. Thanks again for your video and looking forward to getting back down to your fantastic country. Cheers from the mountains, canyons, and deserts of Utah.
Hi Todd, thanks for your reply. To be honest I have not played around with the sprockets on my bike it is the stock gearing and it works for me. I agree with you on changing front and rear sprockets can help with a particular type of riding. I just use my AJP for big trips and ADV style riding, for this the stock gearing is perfect. If you were going to do some technical slower style riding I would increase the rear sprocket size as I feel like it adds a bit more torque down low that's my gut feel.
I have just come back from a 4 day trip up into NSW which was my first trip back from a hip replacement so to say it was fun is an understatement. I do love the PR7 it is very easy to get along with.
I would love to ride the BDR's you have in the States one day particularly Utah looks amazing. A great place to live for an ADV rider.
Thanks for watching, Regards Steve
The PR7 was the only bike I seriously considered as an alternative to the 701e. I'm pretty sure I'd have been completely happy with the PR7 but I was worried about how far away the closest dealer was (2-3 hours vs. 35 minutes for the 701). But I did end up with the 701 and set it up for ADV (TAT/BDR riding in the US)... and at that sort of riding it IS very fast. I think these two bikes are probably likely to be the fastest bikes for long ADV tours on routes like US BDR's (at least with bigger guys)... possibly the Kove might be close and certainly the ktm 500's might also if you're willing to ignore dealer service intervals (I'm not), though the smaller bikes will struggle on fast dirt road and occasional paved sections we have to deal with.
I did put a Scotts damper on the 701 and I'm glad I did... on silty/sandy roads I turn it up and it keeps hidden ruts from throwing me off like used to happen without the damper (or "as often" at least).
Given how I tend to ride fast on offroad adv I think the 701 might be a BIT better fit for my riding style than the PR7... but as I said I think I'd have adjusted to the pr7.
@@kuhndj67 Yeah valid point's both these bikes you talk about are great options and only a few minor points seperating them. As U say access to a dealer or a bias to one sort of riding terrain can be enough to sway you. Both great bikes.
Thanks for watching Regards Steve
I love your new series, crusing in memory lane...
Well done mate 🎉.
Thanks for the first proper comparison I have found! AJP was my choice as well
I test rode all the KTM range (690, GG700, Husky701) on several occasions at different events and they never felt "right" to me and the motors were just not to my liking needing to rev like that. I rode the AJP one time at an event and was sold. I don't need the aggressiveness of the KTM line of bikes and the AJP comes with so much already in place vs the KTM lineup. I only needed to add a rear rack for loads and chose to update the fuel filler (ask any PR7 owner....your mates are filled up and on a second coffee when you finally get the PR7 filled stock) and will do a few other recommended changes but no major purchases for this bike to do what I like. Its easier to work on and super simple. Agree, you don't get ABS and riding modes, but you just have to keep that in mind when riding. All of my other ADV bikes are old 1st gen anyway with no technology so I'm used to it. Only issue is dealer network for most of world. Even here in western Europe its semi scarce but they are responsive (being a small company) to questions and parts requirements. I have about 4000km on my AJP and really enjoy it. I would rank it in the top 3 bikes out of over 50 I've owned for fun factor and man I do love when other riders or kids on the street give me a big thumbs up because it looks the part stock. Great videos on a little covered bike!!
@@gsj-66 Wow over 50 bikes and it's in your top 3... Glad to hear such positivity as I reckon this bike was made for me so glad it's suits other people as well 😉
Thanks for watching and the experienced comments
Regards Steve
I've never ridden an AJP nor seen one in the flesh, and I've probably spent collectively an hour on a 690 which I was quite impressed with. I've owned a DR650 and frankly I sold it as it was hands down the most boring bike I've ever owned. But for me, with all that I've seen, read and heard, it'll be a PR7 for me when I have the funds to make it happen. I too like simple bikes and my limited experience with KTM ownership has not been great. Great comparison, thank you.
AJP by far tops 👍
Much Enjoyment 👍😎
AJP for me 😂
I went on the AJP site for a look, finding out that the bike costs over 19k in Australia turned me off straight up.
I went 690, it still needs mods and is expensive in its own right. Should be comparing the 19 and up model.
Yeah agreed the price new is an issue for me as well. (Bought my AJP second hand so it was bargain)
I was comparing the later model 690/701as I have owned the 2018 model but ridden two of the later 2019 on models. All the tech I talk about on the 690's is on the later models and not the bike I owned.
The reality here is it is great to have these two offerings in Australia they really hit the mark for me on lots of levels.
Sorry for the late reply forgot to get back to you on this one
Regards Steve
Steve, I have to ask about vibrations to the grips and bars running single cylinders bikes between these two. Any feedback on the feedback of these two bikes? Lol, pardon the pun 😂
@@markrichardson8382 That is ripping pun. Yeah the 2018 690 might have a tad more vibration than the PR7 but that's mainly the bigger engine. Have ridden a couple of the later models with the extra counter balance shaft and effectively they are probably the same now. To be honest I don't notice any vibration as I don't grip the handle bars very tight. It is very minimal on both bikes I would say but I appreciate it is a very personal thing
Thanks for watching Regards Steve
So which is the better option for slow riding the fire trails and dirt roads?
Go for the PR7! Both will do it but the PR7 will be more comfortable!
PR7. I rode the KTM range at several events (including Touratech Active Adventure and EAT ARC) where they had some challenging and rough test courses. Didn't like them on the slow technical sections and climbs. If I was going to live in the desert with wide open country, yes the KTM line I might go with (or not!!). But for fire roads, slow riding the AJP is just more comfortable, more neutral seating position and tractable motor.
@@gsj-66 Yeah good to hear someone with experience on both bikes and the same thoughts. Thanks for watching Regards Steve
Easy question, simple answer! If one is a KTM the answer is: the other bike!
@@wolfganglueger1691 Yeah l do believe they can be overrated a bit too 😁
AJP PR7 all day long - owned both - still have PR7…😜🏴
Hi Bill, I have watched a lot of your video's on the PR7 which gave me confidence to buy one myself so thanks for that. I agree the PR7 is a better option and I certainly love mine.
Thanks for watching, Regards Steve
Give it time and the pr7 will sell more and more … a lot of people want exactly of what that bike deliver… idon t have the money and i am short so crf300l for me but would really like one in the future
What they should really do is a more off road version of it…no tower no tablet a tad less high
1.5 pound less expensive and would sell like chips…
@@silvioperugini5890 Yeah there's an interesting thought a enduro version I like it..... Price is an issue you are right. I bought mine second hand so it was not a concern for me but if I had to buy new.... Mmmmm
Thanks for watching Regards Steve
Clearly AJP ! Comfort, suspension far better made, and most important…its safe at high speed offroad
@@NMAdv some bikes seems to “take care about you” at speed….PR7 is one of them few
@@NMAdv just try the bike, and you will understand..
the only sensible choice is the ktm exc500
@@ogasi1798Yep great bike and of the light weight ADV bikes the best by a country mile.
@@dirtbikeadv nice you didn't bite, good aussie humour radar - of course a different bike to the pr7 🙂 they are nice them Portugese models and if my 500 ever lets go, who knows...
@@ogasi1798 Lmfao it's simple just respect other people's opinions. I'll be doing a vid on the 500 soon. My mate Brendan has one with a tower. Freakin awesome set up.