Why this Warhammer Tank waited 30 YEARS for a model...
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- In this video we explore the lore behind the Sabre Strike tank for Warhammer from Games Workshop, but we dont just talk about it, we paint it too!
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I feel like Dave just wants to find all of the generations of Horus Heresy and paint all of them. I'ld watch that
That's a great idea!
@@TabletopTime If you can do what you love, go as far as it'll take you. I mean, what else are ya gonna do with all those old, unpainted, possibly scratch built w/ love models. So much history, so much table, a lot of time
Tank tracks are often black because they have rubber pads on them to protect road surfaces from metal tracks. But if you look at this tank you can see the links, so it seems unlikely that they have rubber pads on. Also, I doubt anyone in the 40k universe is worrying about what their tanks are doing to roads.
The tracks are probably made from Vulcanized Rubbernite 😂
Not true at all, they are mostly black/dark reddish brown because they are made mostly of blacksteel (steel which is not post treated). Sadly that stuff starts rusting immediatly after coming in contact with water what then turns them into a dark reddish brown. Rubber pads are mostly used for driving on roads in peacetime and are not meant for going into battle.
I paint my tracks a very very dark brown with some rusty and dusty spots. After that, smear the tracks mit some dark metal pigments on the edges and high points to immitate some wear and tear from hard surfaces.
Dave single handedly making me want to buy an airbrush with his beautiful gradient paint schemes. So damn good!
I'm really surprised how effective the Non-Metallic Metal painting is.
Dave that paintjob is class. You've really pumped up your game since this channel started
Well done kiddo! I love hearing more about the various histories, from the lore to the periodicals to the history of the franchise itself. I think the tank looks great, and I would love to see your birthday treasure especially if you demonstrate more non-metallic metal techniques! Today my non-artistic, non-gaming husband discovered the rather gruesome names of model paints and is questioning my sanity anew, which I always find deeply satisfying, but when I told him that’s what Dave at Tabletop Time uses he decided it can’t be all bad- because no one with your beautiful hair could be truly evil! Have fun at Pax, kiddo, and keep ‘em rollin’.
Thankyou for the kind words, I'm glad the purity of my elflike hair was true to see by all! Glad you're enjoying the format
Even if I'm more of a Bloodbowl/Frostgrave guy, I love these videos! Only thing that's missing is the battle reports for all your armies.
Love this, thanks Dave. I appreciate the deep dive in the history of the model.
Amazing thankyou - I love exploring the history of models in a hands on way and hope to keep the series going!
Painting your army on work time and making good content . Legend mate. Its now a matter of principle JAZZA that this boy gets to finish his army in "work" so he can show all of us his methods. Doing it at home would be a waste of content
The colour looks absolutely awesome!
I actually have a similar weathering and battle damage philosophy. To me they're space marines, they maintain their gear very well (mostly) and any damage is from the environment around them like paint being stripped from sand or falling chunks of masonry. Just nice to see something other than the traditional rust effects
I like the colour scheme for your Alpha Legion. I appreciate the subtle tone shift over a flat turquoise.
Edit - spelling
I'm all for "work time" used as "hobby time". I really like the colors you have settled on here.
One of your best paint jobs Dave. Thanks for the video.
As a former Tanker the only time tank track is black, is when it is brand new. After a couple of days in the field it is polished steel and covered in soil. Once back in garrison it rusts up.
I am so glad i watched this. The screen at 5:12 taught me a valuable lesson. That second hand Rhino I bought last year, where the guy had been very clever to customise it with original Land Raider parts wasn't kitbashing a homebrew... He was building a Sabre... I own a sabre! (Sans pen cannon sadly) but otherwise he did a bang up conversion job... Now I kinda really want to honour it though, by building a modern one with the newer rhino kits... and leaving that one as it is... :) Trouble is I'm already filling my ranks now with 10,000 year old tech.... Whuups....
Thanks for sharing!
Actually, the idea of the Sabre Tank Destroyer appeals to me because it is really a purpose-made tank destroyer, rather than a Laser Vindicator-style retrofit. Furthermore, it is an interesting combination of old (cannon-based) and new (missile-based) tank destroyer concepts.
You're absolutely right. I guess in 1989, you could see Moorcock's Chaos allied to Tolkien's Orcs; but today, the forces from the Eye of Terror still loathe filthy Xenos. The paint scheme looks great. The Sabre turned out very well.
I absolutely agree with making the tracks black. I noticed when painting my Lord of Skulls that 40k makes most treads metallic, but every time I've seen treads I remember them being black
lovely paint work and i love the cracking and weathering ideas. thanks
The Sabre was what you made with the parts left over from the original Spartan, fact fans.
Also, the main hull is a combination of Land Raider parts, and plasticard .
I am so happy that you said that you were wearing a respirator!! Thank you, great video :-D
really love this format of painting, lore and history
Watching you put the magnets in - get yourself an alignment stick so you never have to worry about putting them in the wrong way around!
Dave, make it happen. I watch specifically for painting tips and tricks, and you never disappoint!
Please keep on working. I get so much joy from shared enthusiasim
Looking awesome! Cheers for the shout out 👍
Purple and Green Alpha Legion? The classic super-villain colour scheme.
The black gloves give Dave's painting shots something of a Giallo killer atmosphere. Sinister.
The plasma looks great ! And yes lets see more !
I made one of the Sabers out of that WD. Still have it floating around someplace in my boxes. Along with the Spartan tank... yes I'm old.
please, make it happpen, would love to see you paint more tanks.
I'm new to TableTop Time and I'm new to these games as well.
All through this video, I was thinking that I wish they had a video for beginners about each game (or whatever it's called) and had a cheat sheet for it on their website. Before I posting on here I decided to check to see if they had a website and if it had info for newbies.
I learn by reading. Although, i like watching videos, if i want to retain info, I need to read it.
Guess what I found!! My favorite thing to accompany any TV show or other series type thing. They've got a Fandom Wiki for their stuff!
Way to go! I've been so lost on most of your videos. Wishing I knew more. I keep an old phone just to look up info on TV series / Movies we watch. Almost always, the best resource is Fandom Wikis!
I can't wait to start watching TTT previous videos with TTT's wiki ready for me!
Thank you.
PS, I would love to know other resources as well. There may be better options out there. I'm used to Fandom's Wikis, but if there is a better info source I'd love to know.
Great Video! Love seeing Horus Heresy getting some love
Every time I see you guys use an airbrush, I get one step closer to buying one for myself. It looks great!
I wish someone would make a 40K size 3D model of that sweet Space Marine Lander you showed in the previous video. Would make for a cool piece of terrain.
Thing's bigger and longer than a Thunderhawk. Would probably need a metal rod down the center for the resin not to snap.
@@lazerhosen Possibly. But as it's just for static terrain it could be made quite hollow and thing walled too.
Looks amazing Dave and for the tracks it is painted black are a tan are some color for camo reasons the painted does get stretched with rough terrains cause they are metal with a huge pin so the chip painted would normally be the edges that hits the ground the sides won't get scratched cause with turning its just one tread going back and one going forward also the flat won't get scratch it does but does sometimes
Tonk :)
But seriously, everyone I've spoken to in a global heresy discord agrees - the sabre is an excellent tank. While the autocannon might not have as much use as it could, the saker and the nuetron do more than enough to justify the sabre's existence. Additionally, some people enjoying taking all 4 sabre missiles as a sort of single use shotgun tactic, annihilating anything that comes close to the tonk.
Also the sabre is adorable. The cutest tonk, the smol baby.
Holy fuck those are some sweet colours and smooth gradients
I’d love to see you go through the ages, each edition, version, etc, various models or stories from each edition, plus painting up something fun. At the end you would have maybe a squad or even an army with different models from different eras!
Plus you can go deep on the stories from that time period, I don’t know the specific rulings or even if this is accurate, but like the 2nd edition Chaplain being flung from a rhino, taking a huge amount of damage and activating a specific piece of war gear that blinded large portions of the enemy army.
Well, I'm a fan of Dark Angels, and now building Ironwing detachment builded around Glaive. But I'm also want two Sabers just because I love how they look.
I saw the thumbnail for this video and had to click it! I currently have that exact whitedwarf copy framed and hung up in my house. It’s from the year and month I was born. Thanks for the nostalgia :)
Excellent! Good call on Alpha Legion.
Bro you motivated me to get back into painting my space wolves again, btw loved the vid :)
Great little tank, Dave. Would love to see more of your Horus Heresy army work.
Some thoughts on the HH2.0 sabre in game: don't sleep on the autocannon. The combination of sunder, rending 5+ and twin linked means that it is actually pretty reliable for taking down medium armor in conjunction with some sabre missiles. Don't forget that the high movement of the sabre can be used to get side armor shots more easily than, say, a predator. That loadout is made very strong in Iron Warriors. The volkite saker is also a strong choice because you can maximize the reaction potential for return fire since it is s6 and therefore a defensive weapon. Lastly, the neutron blaster is also concussive 3, which can absolutely cripple the weapon skill of anything you mught want to charge that turn, if the shot goes through. I think every loadout has a role to play.
This is sick man. Go wild with everything.
I love these videos, because being new to 40k and HH this cool history is my way of learning about all the things I missed out on while also learning tips abd advice on how to improve my painting. So as a person still new in the hobby who loves lore and history I hope you keep these going as long as your having fun with them Dave :)
Goddamn, beyond well done, Dave!! The tonk turned out absolutely insane! The little chips on the bottom and the glow effect bring so much love to it all! I love the deep dives for the information and the passion behind it! Always so inspiring to see indulgent projects come to life in such a beautiful way! And hell yes to more tonk and deep dive videos!!
Ah the good old days, where GW said "you can build this" not "you can buy this" - and those scout titan scratch builds... brought back memories
Yeah, but to make the Sabre, you need a Land Raider and a Rhino (which nets you a Spartan and a Sabre). It was still a way to get you to purchase more kits, and didn't require GW to design, produce or distribute anything. Ditto for the original Whirlwind and Vindicator.
Always paint or seal in your magnets, Super glue fractures over time to pop the magnet out, and then it's a continual abuse of super glue forever, so a coat of PVA over that part, then A Matt coat, works wonders.
Hmm l remember a guy at my store mount a heavy bolter on the front of a rhino for his "Stinker Boys" (squat junkyard crews) way back when the 2ed SW codex came out . And he used WWII german "skirts" on the vehicle.
always love to see more Heresy content!
You're not wrong, the sabre is in a weird spot. That said, it is a cheap way to fill up some fast attack slots. I find that squadroned works best for volkite or autocannon loadouts to just bully whatever you shoot them at, whereas the neutron laser is good on single sabres to harass enemy armor. I like the autocannon; losing a strength does kind of suck, but it more than makes up for it with the Rending (5+) and Sunder, giving you a decent chance of still at least glancing even heavy armor (that often is not going to be able to Return Fire react with anything that can hurt it!) I have also had good success harassing dreadnoughts with the autocannons, but that could also just be my dice haha. My volkite needs are also met elsewhere in the force, otherwise I would likely consider them more heavily; volkite is never a bad option and is generally the coolest one!
Well done on the scheme as well! You are a madman for painting a tank in NMM but you pulled it off in an efficacious way. Looking forward to seeing more!
FINALLY someone else noticed how silly shiny silver tank treads are
Very interesting, enjoying these little trips through history (even though I was there at the time, groan). Weirdly last night I started assembling and hacking up a Deimos Rhino to make an homage to the Sabre tank, didn't realise they'd gone and done an official model three years ago!
Also if you do a history of the Glaive make sure you check out WD120 page 8, interesting to see how things were originally named!
Love this man, amazing paint job and very engaging to watch, I usually find myself bored watching painting videos, but you got me paying attention the whole time
Happy birthday Dave!
To nerd abot nerd things: the dark angels lore bit about picking off the ork caravan is THE german tankambush tactic from ww2. Shoot the leader, shoot the rear, the rest is pinched inbetween and has nowhere to go
Nothing german about it, its the way basic anti tank tactics
No it is german. Developed by gena anti-tank gun crews in ww1
Also I hae read British anti-tank manuals from ww2, and such tactics are absent.
The soviets also did not have these tactics initially in ww2, they only learnt them after kursk.
The British tactic was to set up a multi-layered ambush, the initial ambush would get the enemy tanks to move onto mines or further ambushes rather than hault them in their initial positions. While early soviet tactics only attacked the rear and centre of the collum to force it to continue driving forward into the sights of more guns.
I just bought 3 RT era Rhino's specifically to convert into Sabre tanks, funnily enough, they have the exact same foot print as the new ones
Oh wow, that kit bashed Star Wars Scoutwalker... I remember seeing that in a cabinet in the Games Workshop in Leeds about 30 (Yikes!) years ago, possibly more.
It is kit bashed with the Zoid: Red Scavenger (I used to be a massive Zoids nut) with what looks like another Zoid: Gore Lord Protector's shoulder cannon
I think it's name later on was The Gustav was a cool zoid kit
@@kharnifex yes, I think that was the original Japanese name as they renamed all the zoids for the UK market and gave them a different back story and made them either red or blue
I can’t believe how more people weren’t talking about the walker!
You know what puzzles me? In 30K, Space Marines knew how to make all manner of super tank destroyers and what not, all based on the Rhino Chassis, but they forgot how to build a Razorback. They had to wait until the end of the Horus Heresy conflict, before they found the plans again, that told them how to put twin linked laz cannons on the roof of a Rhino.
I keep hoping we'll be getting the Sabre in plastic at some point. Even if we have to wait till after a plastic Whirlwind, and Vindicator.
A plastic Arquitor would be nice too.
Nobody gonna mention that dope ass dread in the White Dwarf...
Gotta love early GW 40k. Basically scifi WWII. The original Sabre design is basically a Jagdpanzer IV.
Very cool paint job, and the history was a nice addition to the vid. Thanks.
Huh ... I've been using Mr. Mark Softener wrong. Thanks for the tip! The tank looks *amazing*!
These videos are always such a joy to watch, thanks for the history lesson Dave from this warhammer newbie
Make it so, Dave. Paint that Super Heavy
Can we get a dedicated video on your paint scheme for the Alpha Legion? The scheme is 🔥
4:00 which is pretty much exactly how i built mine about 15 years ago.
Great job on the nmm i feel like with everyvideo its gotten slightly better each time
I had seen before the rogue trader Sabre but didn’t know it was actually the Sabre, it’s definitely come a long way
Nice job Dave. I still have two of the original sabres from the WD article design floating around. :)
I'd say that turned out wonderfully! You created a very nice paint scheme, and the fine detail work looks great. I personally always feel like the "dirty and used" detailing looks bad, as it's being applied, and wish it could stay "new in box" forever, and then its done, and on the battlefield, and it looks great, as yours does. I do wish I had a skill level that approached this, but I haven't had a need to do that much, to hone it to this degree. Your efforts look wonderful!
i love glaives and fellblades so much i'd love to see that
Sweet paint job, bro.
Dave !! It came out super dope. Well done. 👏👏
As a night lords player I use Javelin squads more often but I was thinking of adding sabers but I lack anti tank so for fast attack it’s hard to pass up the lascannon javelin.
So thought i would throw in my thoughts on the sabre tank. Played a few games so far with them and the neutron blaster with multi melta combo is devastating against armour, Movement 16 and a fast vehicle so can should that ordnance cannon without penalty. It's weapon range seems to be 24 inches unless you rock the volkite but with a 16 inch movement means it will pretty much catch anything it wants to. The autocannons are better than they initially look like on paper as they have rending as well (if memory serves correctly) so there is a chance they can still do some damage to the bigger tanks in the game. Either way they are cool little tanks and for the points cost they are amazing, kinda wish they were in plastic
Make it so dave, make it so. Awesome paint job man, quick side bar what was that massive walker on those old white dwarf pages that looked insane.
It's definitely changed Dave !
Love both the 40k and 30k alpha legion videos ❤
Well look forward to next weeks video!
@@TabletopTime thank you
Yeah, paint that tank!
Do all the tanks Dave, all the tanks!
The reason that all old generation tanks had silver tracks is because older generation tank tracks were bare metal. newer gen and refurbished tanks have tyres bolted to the tracks to protect road surfaces and give them more traction .
Painting a Legion Glaive?! YES PLEASE!
MORE 40k! MORE 30k! I’m talkin’ Lore! Painting bat reps and RPs
Do it! We wanna see more tanks!!
Wow, I had that WD for the longest time. It was one of two old issues I'd borrowed from a friend who had borrowed them from a friend. I sold it with my entire WD collection (although until I just looked for it and failed to find it I thought I'd kept that issue).
Real world tank tracks tend to be hardened rubber with pins holding them together so black would be a far better choice honestly.
If you look at the original model of the sabre closely you will notice that whereas the track sponsons do , ion fact, come from a Rhino, the hull itself is the top part of a Land Raider hull.
You guys change thumbnails so fast I'm getting whiplash!
Do it Dave!!! 🎉
Great job choom
Love my sabres! They get wrecked more often than they do some wrecking but love to run at least a pair of these to harass my oponents!
Fun fact, you can see the old saber tank in the first 30 sec of the music video "land of confusion" by the band Disturbed
Glad Alpharius got his tank.
the original Sabre is in the video for Disturbed's 'World of confusion '' !
I’d say that’s more of a Omegon-Legion paintstyle
(Whispering) Dave, make it happen.
The Saber also appears in the music video Disturbed - Land of Confusion.
the orange reflection could be fires from the battlefield