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When Russell (Generational young talent according to some fans) crashed trying to keep up with Lewis (38 years old) and Fernando (41 years old) reminded me of a saying "Be afraid of the old man in a profession where men die young".
IMO the Twitch quartet is top tier but not generational talent. Max,Nando,and Lewis is our current generational talent on the grid right now.
I mean if we really want to be f1 fans these days you have to say that since the upgrade merc built the car around Lewis driving style and thats why George can’t drive the car anymore. Can’t believe i havent seen this yet since thats what they say about max when he is dominating checo
@@IiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiGeorge is on the pace of Lewis he is just making mistakes
Bars!!!
This actually hits hard
I said this before, this podium literally shows us the three best racers on the grid rn. It's a picture perfect moment that you would see in a history book
Not just the three best, but in the correct order of how their cars are performing at that moment.
You F1 fans are full of Sh**. If Bottas would still be in a Mercedes he'd be the best according to you. Everything is about the car in F1, sorry to burst your bubble.
@@Shabec2982 I think that rn the Mercedes is actually a tiny bit stronger than the Aston
@@lukashaggenmuller8917 true but not in canada
@@lukashaggenmuller8917you only think that because it’s a 1v2 in Nandi had a good teamate you wouldn’t be saying that
What a travesty for Alonso not being in great cars for almost 10 years.I feel that he and Hamilton had the potential to create the greatest rivalry in the history of the sport (yes, above Senna and Prost)
Give them a few more years fighting at the top again and we might just have that. Alonso-Hamilton in the 2020s is a dream I never imagined
@@elplan3605 we can only hope 🙂
Those Ferrari cars weren't great either. If they were, Alonso would have had at least two more WDCs easily.
@@Parker-- yeah definitely in 2012. The fact that he was a contender in that tractor was crazy
if he wasnt so hard to work with, he would have landed a better team
It’s crazy when I was a kid I remember my dad watching F1 back in 2007 seeing Lewis and Fernando go back and forth tooth and nail every weekend. Now 16 years later Lewis and Nando are still the best drivers in F1. Their longevity is absolutely insane. Thankfully with those 2 drivers this season hasn’t become an absolute snooze fest
@@Allblue1 my comment was about complimenting both Lewis’ and Fernando’s longevity to remain in their primes for over 16 years.
Absolute Legends
"Now 16 years later Lewis and Nando are still the best drivers in F1."
Allblue8022 is right, Max should be in that list as well.
@@suckieduckie calm down. RPM was right. Verstappen shaggers are just ad bad as Team LH wankers.
@@suckieduckie Max wasn't racing in 2007, so why mention him?
Alonso is a very unique driver. Very few driver can stay in good form let alone stay in their peak. He's proven himself to be the right driver to lead Aston Martin's charge to title challenge
Now they need to get rid of Stroll and replace him with Leclerc. That would be an insane team. Leclerc is never going to be Verstappen's teammate, while Hamilton is not retiring any time soon. Leclerc's absolutely best option right now is Aston Martin. We need Aston Martin's shareholders to put pressure on Lawrence Stroll to finally ditch his useless driver
I just enjoy watching how happy he looks, it's wonderful that after so many years there can still be so much joy and success.
@@diegovillavicencio3172 isnt leclerc in the ferrari contract until the end of 2024
@@nice900 that's sad 😪 lol
@@diegovillavicencio3172 the pain continues for another year and a half
You forgot to mention Valencia 2012 podium (ALO, RAI, MSC). 3 Champions, 10 WDC total and best drivers during 2004-2006 periods. As someone who started watching in 2003/2004 that was really special.
For me that podium is as GOATed as these 3 (Canada/Australia 2023)
Then you are way too young to even talk about it !
@@andersnielsen6044and you are a pensioner. grow up grandad
@@prateekgill27 Nah, ALO,RAI,MSC is stronger pilot wise.
Newey and Max make the 2023 podium much stronger than Valencia 2012. Schumacher and Hamilton cancel eachother out and Alonso is Alonso.
I think it's genuinely Fernando's drive and enthusiasm about driving a podium-capable car that rubbed off on Lewis and motivated him to be there with his old rival. It seemed in Australia, when they first stood on podium as three champions, that something clicked in Lewis' head and he realized that it's actually really fulfilling to be there with the other two, and now he's again motivated to give his best and to stay there, even if he doesn't have a shot at winning on pure pace.
I mean, this is a wholesome take but imo it has more to do with the new upgrades merc has brought in. In the races before monaco, lewis was in a car he did not trust and one he actively protested against. Although i am sure he also got motivation from alonso's drive(i genuinely dont think lewis sees anyone outside of max and alonso as his rivals like no other driver in the current grid can make him think "i want to beat him") i think the much bigger portion of his jump in performance is that the car has improved and the other teams have drivers and strategy departments making mistakes left and right.
Edit: okay to not be misunderstood, i'm not saying that lewis looks better only bc the car got better. What i mean is, he's able to push more because he trusts the car more, and because he knows he can drag the car to better places, and unlike most drivers he knows the limits of himself and the race enough to not make too many crucial mistakes.
@@e.1067 He didn't have the upgrades in Australia yet though, and that's where his attitude was already visibly changed.
@@steelin666Yes but the race in Australia was kind of a wreck fest too. I hesitate to use it to judge anything.
yeah, Lewis realized that F1 wasn't just about having the fastest car on the grid and decided to put some effort into it. He was so accustomed to having no challengers due to such a dominant car that I think being in the mid-field broke him.
@@jsboeve feel you bro but imagine you were a driver for seven consecutive years you've been accustomed to a beast of a car then all over your given a rude ass reality check in 2021 😊bro you'll need an adjustment period to restructure your mind to the new reality plus also adding the controversial ending to the previous season
Max once said: There is no one, not even Helmut Marko who can put me under pressure like my dad could. Max has had the toughest teacher out there. Jos gave Max handicaps during karting, saying he wan't allowed to overtake in the usual spots. When Max and LeClerc clashed, the stewards put them at the back. While LeClerc cried, Max said: Fine, I'll win from the back (and he did)
Yeah, forcing Max to drive in pouring rain when all the other drivers would go inside, lap after lap, and have him warm his hands on the engine exhaust.
Max is different than even Alonso and Hamilton. He has been born and trained since birth to be the best. He is 13 years younger than Hamilton and a better driver than Hamilton ever was. He is improving as well, which is damn right scary. To me, Max is the greatest to ever drive an F1 car. I have been watching F1 for over 3 decades, and I never thought I would consider anyone better than Senna
@@Lanse1984 It's hard to compare them but I'd say Max's competition is harder. Senna's cars were harder to drive but he had cars on the grid that were 5-6 seconds slower. These days the whole grid is within 1.5. Also, the amount of driver inputs on the steering wheel have increased compared to 'back in the day'
@@Lanse1984
You talk like yet another delusional DTS Max Stan.
He started go-karting at a young age. Just like Lewis did at 5-6 years old. Whether you have been trained from a young age or not does not account for talent.
The fact you just said max is the best to ever be in f1 is genuinely laughable and shows you have zero clue and knowledge of the sport.
He’s nowhere near peak Hamilton yet.
Max has zero competition.
It is easy for him.
Red Bull have designed it this way.
I still have complete question marks over his ability to perform under intense pressure.
It’s all good when you have no competition.
@@Lanse1984 They're just different. Max was definitely lucky to have two parents that have racing in their blood. It's very rare for a person to grow up with F1 racer as a dad. So much of the talent he developed was training and skill he was taught by a professional. And he took advantage of that to become one the greatest drivers of all time. But it does make his story and achievements less remarkable than someone like Lewis who is became the most successful driver of all time coming from a more humble background. Also, Lewis broke cultural barriers like Tiger Woods did and that adds to his legacy and achievement more than Verstappen.
@@isaacm2374Ok, so his father was a F1driver who taught him all he learnt from his F1 experience, but Jos best results in a good car were 2 third places, while Max won his first race in a good car at the age of 18. That is talent/skills that can't be neither learnt nor taught, which seperates the exceptional drivers like Max, Lewis and Fernando from the other current drivers ok the grid. Not sure about Charles and George.
just blame the lack of a title fight on checo. for example, if we forget about max, checo would be leading the championship over alonso by ONLY 9 points in that rocketship of a red bull. that is how bad of a job checo has been doing so far. the true performance ceiling of the RB19 is proven by max's performances and shows that it is the undisputed fastest car but for checo to be only 9 points ahead of alonso right now is quite humiliating.
yes but in what world would a bad driver get the fastest car never happened in history, great drivers get good car (bad driver be the number 1 driver)
Not even. Fernando would actually be in front of him
@@fups1 I mean't as in a great team lead by a bad driver never happened
@@fups1 Webber missed out by 14 points in 2010 which was quite tight (and he could have won it). Perez is more like Webber of the 2011 season where he finished in 3rd despite the most dominant car. ( but Webber was alot closer to Vettel than Verstappen and Perez)
Tell that to Webber who while seb was whipping the floor with everyone couldn’t even finish 2nd in the championship once
The problem with Russel is he doesn't have a hand on management, he doesn't balance speed with race pace. He burns off his tyres too fast trying to get past lewis thinking lewis is slow then when lewis knows the end of the stint is approaching he starts to dunk fastest laps on George's head. Bahrain and Monaco are excellent examples of this
Your right bro
Exactly
What i've noticed this season is that the second lewis secures a position, he goes right into tyre management mode which makes everyone think that he's slacking off, or slower than he actually is.
Valencia 2012 IS one of the greatest podium! Kimi, Fernando and Michael made me fall in love with F1! ❤
The 3 best drivers on the grid
Great pit stop battle between Lewis and Fernando too, reminded me of the mad dashes for the pits when refuelling was still allowed.
Wish they'd bring refueling back
My favourite part about the top three so far is the attitude and how they all seem to be enjoying themselves. Max is unmatchable in his car, Lewis seems to have settled into not fighting for a championship currently and Alonso seems to be over the moon driving something competitive again. That twinned with the respect the three have for one another (at least this season so far), the more playful jabs compared to the harsher accusations of recent years, it makes a nice change and I hope it continues as AM and Merc catch up to RB
@@LucasMueller18 aye man, those were years ago - all have matured since then. it's just the fans that are creating unnecessary beef. let us enjoy the moment, f1 2023.
@@LucasMueller18 I think it’s not about them, but more about the fans.
All three of these phenomenal drivers wiped the floor with their team-mates this weekend, in different ways. This is a true statement of how these guys are just a cut above everyone else on the grid.
Not that there aren't really promising and quality young drivers on the grid who COULD be this good at some point (Norris, Russell, Leclerc, Albon etc) - but at the moment there is no competition.
Two of the greatest drivers of all time still performing at the highest level despite being in the later years of their careers, and a guy (Max) who will most definitely be up there by the end of his career (he's already matched Senna).
Edit:
Just to add, I say "wiped the floor with their teammates" because that did happen this weekend, but there is an easy ranking of how good their teammates are relative to them.
1: George - by far and away the best of the three. Makes some stupid mistakes but beat Lewis last year (even if he did have favourable conditions), and very close to him this year. Like him or not, to go toe to toe with Hamilton at Merc is no easy feat, so he deserves plaudits.
2: Checo - Still good, but seems to be getting worse. Could be in danger if he continues to perform sub-par
3: Lance - I don't need to explain this one, he's a lovely guy but he is easily the worst driver to be in F1 for this long in a while.
Might be just me but Verstappen already top 5.
The thing with Max is that no matter what happens on track, whether someone chrashes and the session ends early, or the conditions are very bad, he is always there. The on track events might help someone else, but Max is still there around the top(for exmple Brazil 22' quali). Also often in Q1s and Q2s, Sergio is like 7, 8, even further down, Max is just consistently at the top, pretty much no matter who and when made his lap and what session is. Yeah, you don't really need to be the fastest in Q1/2 and the Practices, but Max just naturally has the consistent pace no matter what happens around him, and this certainly help when it really comes to maximum pushing.
I'm convinced Alonso's adventure with Toyota in LMP1 made his driving even better and just honed his ability to think about strategy while driving. More F1 drivers need to race other cars in their spare time.
Maybe a tiny bit, but Alonso’s been one of the most complete and adaptable drivers since the get go. All three of these guys have always had a ton of extra capacity jn the car with Alonso having the most while in pure ultimate pace over one lap Max and Lewis have a .5% edge I’d say.
Alonso jumped into an IndyCar and finished P2 in his first ever indy 500. Amazing. The next year Honda were too bitter to allow him to drive any Honda powered cars and the only competitive rides had Honda engines. But now he’ll be working with Honda yet again lol.
I really hope that there's a race at some point this season where the cars are close enough in performance that we can get a real battle between these 3.
Or Max dnf, that would be best race.
I think Mercedes "might" able to fight RB at the near end of this season, because Mercedes always nailed their upgrades
Probably next season
anybody also realize that all 3 driver drives Adrian newey designed car
fernendo alonso 2007( an evolution of neweys car)
lewis hamlton 2007-2008( same with alonso an evolution of neweys car)
max verstappen 2016-now
People forget that in Max’s Rookie Season at Toro Rosso like at the US GP ( Austin) he was battling up with the Top 3 at the Time ( Lewis, Rosberg, Vettel) at the age of 17! It’s why Mercedes decided to use a Massive Negative PR Campaign using the British Media against Max that lasted YEARS against Max, because they KNEW he was that Good!
Mercedes wanted to sign Verstappen, and Verstappen wanted to go to Mercedes at one point 🤣. They only picked Bottas cause he was at Williams. Grow up 🤣
@@user-eh1gc7xo7q If Max really wanted to go there, he just would have. Max never wanted to go to merc as long as that posterboy of theirs was being favoured, else it would pull the race card. No, Max wanted to go to RB from the start, because they had an actual seat on offer. Max wasn't going to be dumped into F2 by merc like they did to Russel, just so that posterboy could have massively overinflated stats. Max was cleverer than that and it paid off.
@@EntropicExergy just google Verstappen old tweets about Mercedes and grow up. This is what happens when you spend this much time online. 🤣
@@user-eh1gc7xo7q Don't need to look up anything to know BS when i see it. You are so full of BS, maybe you should take your own advice and lay off the internet. You seem to buy into anything a troll account posts, which leads to a lot of BS.
Why are you guys arguing about stuff that's known and in the open? Mercedes wanted verstappen, just like everyone else at the time. Red Bull made the huge offer to skip f2 and let him race in f1 straight away. The rest is history.
Alonso: king of outperforming his machinery. He did it in 2012 and he'll keep doing it until he retires. Otherworldly driver
I was thinking the same thing when I watched the podium.
I would have liked the cool down room chat between them to have been much longer.
And to top it off with Adrian Newey, perfect choice by Red Bull to have him join the podium.
And the 3 of them were a good set to see in the press conference too.
Canada 2023 showed that even though in F1 it is 90-95% car, the really greats make a huge difference with the remaining gap. All 3 demonstrated it beautifully and in a commanding way. Checo and Stroll are just not that good. And Russell while far better in talent than Checo and Stroll, still has a long time to go to learn how to adapt to pressure.
And this result shows again that imo Leclerc will probably never be a champ or maybe 1 championship at best (provided everything falls into place). He isn't ruthless enough. Carlos clearly rejected the team's strategy but Charles does nt have that selfish/ruthless streak. In his 6th year in F1 and 5th at Ferrari, he still isn't the leader there. A champion driver should first dominate his teammate and team and dictate terms but he i incapable of it. Unless the car, strategy, and lack of competition fall into place he will not be champ. And these 3 (Max, Alonso, Lewis) have never made so many mistakes consistently. Max has improved SO much in just 3 years, it is frightening.
russel doesn't seem to be able to like push lap times while maintaining consistency like lewis can.
and you're 100% right. ALBON HOLDING UP THE FIELD oh my lord, with a tractor no less
charles was the first ferrari driver to reject the strategy - they wanted to pit charles and keep carlos out
@@yurilopes420 yeah this is what I'm talking about with russell. He's sort of consistent, but consistently average-ish. If your always finishing 4th or 5th you aren't gonna win a title unless the 2 battling it out do a 1982 or 2007 and take to much points away from each other then you swoop in and get the WDC. He's got to be consistently FAST
So true tho bc everyone dubbed Leclerc as the qualifying master but in the end of his career later i don't think Charles will take great satisfaction from having that not so prestigious stats.
Yess Vettel was not the same from 2020-2022 & it was down to not having machinery like Alonso have this year, but Vettel still at least in amongst the greatest same as Alonso & Hamilton, will look at his career & satisfied with 4 WDC & others prestigious stats, something that possibly can never happen with Leclerc🤷♂️
This weekend proved that while Sainz, leclerc and Russel can throw a few jabs, they don’t pack the punch of the veteran heavy hitters like nando, Lewis and max.
The best stay on top for a long time sir Lewis and Nandi really proving that rn
it's funny how the fans who got hooked by netflix didnt even recognize alonso as a top tier driver, and now are starting to see it.
So true, most of my friends that like F1 have only been fans for 3-4 years so they're finally seeing what I've been saying
Something we learned. Russel aint on their level. His been pushing himself to the limit just to keep up and last weekend it took its toll
Besides the car being a factor, its just insane how far these 3 drivers push their cars with ease even if they start having issues with their tires and gears. I admire that they dont fold under pressure like some other drivers do. You have the midfield screaming or yelling Definitely gonna enjoy this season because we dont know if it'll be the last time we see 4 legends on a podium
Alda’s…well said…and you can also sense that all 3 greats are fully aware of where they are in their illustrious careers
and that in this brief moment of sharing the podium with Adrian Newey this Sunday, F1 history is marching on.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁
You can tell alonso has a love for this sport when you see him watching the race on the screens if nothing is going on around him
I was there in Montreal on the track after the race! What a surreal experience to see those 4 men on the podium live in the flesh! I felt so blessed, I mean Max, Alonso, and Lewis were a given, but seeing Adrian Newey was just the cherry on top! 3 of the greatest drivers in F1 history along with one the greatest engineers in F1 history! Incredible!
i think max is in a league above the other 2 right now (talking about current form, not of all time). no matter rain or shine, track temperature or circumstance, he’s always up there. a clutch pole in monaco, a dominant one in the rain at canada, tricky tyres temperatures in australia and spain, he just delivers
Completely disagree.
Max Stans don’t understand the sport. That’s the fundamental problem here.
They just love Max, not the sport. That’s why they twist every narrative into a “we love Max, and so should you” narrative.
Max is doing absolutely nothing the other two wouldn’t do.
Lewis proved that time & time again - and let’s not forget, at least Lewis had competition and pressure for his titles.
I’ve never seen someone have such little pressure for race wins as Max has now.
It’s all good winning when it’s easy, for me there are still question marks when the going gets tough.
@@W0lf_91 “ AT LEAST Lewis had competition and pressure “… Short memory? New to the sport? You should look back the 2021 season. Despite having lots of bad luck and despite having an inferior car Verstappen still managed to take the titel that year.
@@W0lf_91 Verstappen at 23 beat Hamilton fairly in his own game, any expert will tell you he was the better driver that season.
@@jurjenboelema737max had the superior car that year. The FIA had to slow down merc to help rb. Stop the cap
@@W0lf_91 i’m assuming you’ve never seen the 2019 and 2020 seasons right? and mind you, even in lewis’ most dominant seasons, he still had scruffy weekends where he was off the pace or made significant errors (canada 2018, austria 2019, germany 2019 etc). max hasn’t had those weekends
The false narrative that toxic people have created around Hamilton since 2021 cannot stand he is back to his best form again, even if it is for 3rd or 2nd. Glad these 3 goats are just doing their thing.
His best form is fighting for 3rd-5th now?
The amount of coping denial and retardation going on with hamilton fans is hilarious.
It's nice to see Lewis get back on form after a tough 2022 which was one of his weaker seasons
In a great car, Hamilton’s pace is unreal. In tricky cars, Hamilton struggles a bit while Alonso (Max we can’t say cause he’s always had great chassis even if the engine sucked) is easily the adaptability GOAT. Hamilton has the tiniest of edges on pure one lap pace in a perfect car they’re both in over Alonso. As for race craft and wheel to wheel racing, Alonso’s proven himself cleaner and better vs both LH and MV. But Hamilton and Max have a slightly better ability to make the rubber last. It’s what makes these guys so fascinating as a group. They all add up to GOATs with no weaknesses except compared to each other and even then it’s by tiny margins.
Max is a generational talent, he has a rocket ship and he is using it well. He won twice in 2020 when Merc had the most dominant car W11. In terms of which car will will, well the W11 was way lighter than the RB19 so I would want to compare the two.
He has a rocket ship? If you take max out of the equation you wouldn’t say / know that… Also, in 2021 he won the championship in the second fastest car ( in most races )
@@jurjenboelema737that’s cap he had the fastest car majority of the season. It’s only when merc introduced there engine that’s when they was faster
@@jurjenboelema737 That's a lie debunked by Adrian Newey himself. RedBull had the faster car for the majority of the 2021 season. And remember that Max won the championship with a MAJOR asterisk attached. Lewis, for all intents and purposes showed he was the better driver when it counted that night and was supposed to become champion.
@@dianamaioru497 Newey stated "the best car" was the RB, Toto stated "Max won, while the Merc's were the fastest cars"............. pick one that suits your bias....... (notice Toto talked about carS, being Max beating 2 drivers in the fastest cars)
@@Eric-rf1is Yeah, you're forgetting the "Max won" part. Toto was talking about the Abu Dhabi race, *after* Max won, where the Mercs were faster, not about the whole season. Lewis and Merc played their strategy brilliantly, bringing an engine upgrade during the last few races to get an advantage. The only reason they lost was Masi.
If only their cars were as evenly matched as their individual talents.
I was thinking about it. These guys were also quite good right out the gate. Unlike quite a few other new drivers today. Seems like these guys are 1 in a million type drivers..
In 2022 and 2023 Lewis just isn’t connected with the car like he was in the previous decade on Saturday like Russell who came into Mercedes only knowing the new reg Mercedes but on Sunday Lewis is just a different animal he’s better than Russel in every way. Let’s just say there’s a reason Russel is called mr Saturday because that’s where he performs like valterri he always had insane 1 lap pace
Finally a video not trying to undermine Max’s impressive level that he is operating at. He has come such a long way in the last 2 year and his maturity and cool headed driving is absolutely impressive.
To be honest, Russell was not as quick or good as Hamilton last year either. He just had much better luck and did very well when he got his chance to win.
Agreed. People jumped on the points tally though without judging the season in it’s entirety.
I think since they have been teammates Lewis has convincingly outdrove George over the two seasons. Even at his age
Sainz is killing it this year you are insane
George has 5 incidents in 8 races. (Australia reliability, Baku with max, monaco spun in wall, spain hit teammate in qualifying and Canada hit the wall really hard)
I agree 100% with this video’s conclusions. Those are definitely the three best drivers on the grid and they are operating on a different level than the others.
The Difference between a multiple world champion driver and a good driver is the ability to perform at the top level consistently race after race after while making very few mistakes.
The legendairy podium Verstappen Alsonso and Hamilton + Newey just awesome! I really hope we see a fight between them for p1 between them this season. I am sure we will see a Alonso Hamilton fight. If only the Red Bull/Verstappen wasnt so dominant we whould have a awesome 3 driver 3 team title fight
Alonso and Hamilton are top tier drivers still, but I don't think they're in their prime
The thing is, both of their %80 would still eat up nearly all of the grid.
Leclerc and Russell are fast and very talented. But they lack consistency. They are consistent but to be WDC material, consistency means barely making mistakes.
That's what sets Max apart from them. And of course no need to mention why Alonso and Lewis are also better.
We're fortunate to have 3 of the greatest of all times in F1 right now, performing at such a high level. Just imagine those 3 in equal machinery
Alonso makes the green look a lot more iconic this year
Montreal was very fun to watch, maz held pole, alonso was p2 and for a second before then end of the race lewis was catching up to him but alonson held the gap. Its great to see 3 world class driver’s all compete at the highest level.
Also, the last time this many world championships shared the podium was back in Turkey 2020 when Lewis just won his seventh and Seb got his final podium with Ferrari.
In Australia the 3 shared a podium
3 F1 world champions on one podium was pretty special indeed.
"All in their absolute prime" 🤔. I dont want to sound like a hater but I am not sure if Lewis or Fernando are still in there absolute prime, but anyway its amazing to see this 3 on the podium together.
Yeah max is leiws isn't and alonso is an up and coming talent he's a future star
Didn't alonso carry the third fastest car to title battle in 2012 should be doing the same in 2023 I guess he ain't in his prime
Lewis and Nando are definitely NOT in their prime anymore. Experience compensates for lost reflex speed to a certain degree. Apart from that, F1 is extremely physically demanding and getting worse with age. Clearly seen when LH had to get out of the car during the porpoising period while the younger drivers had way less probs with that.
@@Allblue1 let's say a prime Alonso would be 2nd on the standings already. He's absolutely great today, but you can't say he's in his prime. Hamilton isn't in his prime either. Just like Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi in terms of football. They're still great and so much better than most driver in their prime, but both of them are definitely not in their prime. That's how good all 4 persons I mentioned are. Not in their prime and still so much better than many drivers/players who are in their prime
@@countmorbid3187 LH porpoising getting out of car was acting to pressure a rule change. Who happened shortly afterwards...
It’s NEVER “just a race”. These teams have legacy and heritage that’s hard to come by in Motorsport. Every race is a fight to stand atop the podium and tell the world “I am here” and these drivers know it. McLaren, one of the best stories on the grid imo, starting as an owner-driver team and evolving into the host for multiple legends of the sport. Mercedes pulling out of racing all together only to come back with a fierce passion and show the world they can build a race car in ANY category they enter. Ferrari, the darling of Motorsport. Known for their sheer tenacity and grit, their undying commitment even when they fall. Williams, with their troubled start and eventual leap to success, only to return to the back of the grid and rebuild. This is more than racing. This is the hearts and souls of the twenty fastest men in the world, and they bring ALL of their predecessors with them when they find that glorious podium finish.
Age and mistakes skipped Fernando and Lewis
Mistakes skipped max
Frontrunning Talent skipped Lance
Opportunity and Championship skipped Goatifi
For me, Leclerc is like Alesi : a really quick driver but really crash prone, their raw talent being the thing that save them from being in the same category as a Latifi for example.
As for Georges Russel, I think / hipe he will improve a bit because I think he really seems to have what his needed to be with the other three.
And both made a huge mistake by sticking with clearly dysfunctional Ferrari because of their love for the team.
Latifi c'mon man u did Leclerc dirty
I think russell looked better last year cus hamilton wasn’t really at his best. Seems like lewis this year is much more consistent and hungry. And Russell is definitely a top driver I think he just needs more experience.
Leclerc is not ruthless enough
These podium pictures are for the history books!
Wow what a race
This Canadian race shows the talent difference with the top drivers and their team mates. It's amazing how the b cars of all the winning teams fell by the wayside. Just lacking that ability to navigate the difficult conditions of both qualifying and the race on what Jensen calls a very technical track.
It takes a different skill set to be fast everywhere.
They are the only World Champions in the grid for a reason.
All amazing talent.
I'm both a Ferarri and Leclerc fan. And I've no reservations saying my boy needs to get out of that car. He needs a breath of fresh air in a car that doesn't have a red livery.
He needs a good consistent team with a good car to prove his talent. How will he ever prove his skill with an incompetent, inconsistent, useless team. A lot of Leclerc's criticism comes from the same criticism as Ferrari. How much of it is Leclerc's fault compared to Ferrari? Considering Ferrari has been the same since 2010s I think it's Ferrari
The issue with Russell is his overall inexperience in the front. I think that Russell is going through the latter learning faze of his career and is still grasping how to drive when you’re at the front and how to deal with situations when there’s big points on the line and how to balance going on the limit and not over.But when he’s got things right when he has the right mentality he has shown that he has that X factor and is more than capable of beating champions, delivering race wins and capitalising on difficult situations as we have seen in past seasons. After 2 or 3 seasons Russell will definitely be on that level will be up there lighting the formula 1 world on fire.
Adrian Newey 🐐 - 200 Wins - 12 WDC Titles & 11 WCC Titles
Max Verstappen 🐐 - 41 Wins - 2 WDC Titles
Fernando Alonso 🐐 - 32 Wins - 2 WDC Titles
Lewis Hamilton 🐐 - 103 Wins - 7 WDC Titles
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who's the most successful Designer behind Newey though?
@@KingofWolves3277 Good question.
@@KingofWolves3277 I think it's Chapman.
@KingofWolves3277 there were quite a few really good ones back in the day, none have had the longevity of newey though
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In terms of success there have been a few great designers. Obviously Chapman, James Allison who designed many WDC cars with multiple teams, including the Renault R25/25 & Mercedes W09/10/11 -
and let’s not forget Aldo Costa who has Won 14 constructors' championships and 12 drivers' titles working for Ferrari and Mercedes.
crazy how everyone forgets Qatar 2021 podium
That’s why they the GOAT THE GOOOAAAATTTTT
I think on raw talent, Alonso is better than Hamilton. He could've won way more titles. In terms of skill, this podium was unequal. Driving is second nature to these legends. Watching TV while you're driving over 300 kph. LeClerc makes too many mistakes and doesn't have the guts to demand the tires he wants. Sainz actually dictates to the team what he wants.
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Leclerc reminds me a lot of Vettel in his early RB/ Ferrari era. Nearly unbeatable on a good day, especially in qualifying, but he is very prone to crashes like you said. He seems a bit fragile mentally to being considered in the HAM ALO VER category. That is why I believe he is a little step under in my opinion. Russell is in the same category I believe. The only other one that I think has the potential to join the big 3 is Norris,l. However, as long as the Mclaren will be slow We wont have the chance to see his full potential, especially under pressure.
Lol at least Vettel have 4 WDC to savour when he gets older lets remember he won titles in competitive era as well the likes of Alonso, Hamilton, Button & Webber. Leclerc has nothing to ponder abt when retired
"Qualifying Master" "Beating Vettel in 2020" i don't think Leclerc took great satisfaction with the non prestigious stats unless he won a championship
Great video, well explained and very little use of the word "but" 😅
I would say these 3 and Vettel. Absolute masterclass from those Fantastic 4.
Regardless of who you support these are the three best guys right now and we are all blessed to witness and to be able to have them in F1 right now because one day they’ll no longer be there
In Spain Alonso said that this is the last race without a podium and in the next race P2 🙌💚 that's Alonso for you 💚💚 one of the best driver
almost 400 races from just a little bit over 1000 it's insane more than 30% of all races
Alonso is like a good red wine, the Lothar Matthäus of Formula 1.
No verstapen is in a league of his own
I'd just like to point something out that you made a mistake with. The W11, according to the data, was further ahead to the rest of the field than the RB19 is to the rest of the field. Although it is close.
Do you have a link to a graph or the data you have seen? I’m curious about how much faster the W11 was in 2020 compared to this RB19 in 2023
I think what Aldas meant was the gap between the W11 and the Rb16 was smaller than the gap between the RB19 and the Amr23.
That is simply not true.
Why do people bother to come to comments section to say literal lies.
The RB19 has been the most dominant on pace of any car.
@@W0lf_91 lol, you are just wrong ua-cam.com/users/shortsdCSBfz4QuwU?feature=share
Do you have data to prove me wrong because you came here to be an ass only to not bring any sources and call me a liar. Show me your source mate. If you wanna be rude then prove me wrong.
@@kirstiebeau4862 you say what ? If you take Max out of the equation the rb19 doesn’t seem that dominant , especially when you compare it to the w11, where a mediocre driver like Bottas was even quicker then the rest of the field…
Also it’s crazy to think that Alonso has won 2 championships and lost 3 by less than 5 points. I think that’s why he keeps racing with the same fire he had 20 years ago (!!!). What an amazing driver. Would love to see him achieve the 33rd in Hungary.
If you factor in Newey's constructor titles, that number jumps to 34.
Alonso is back in 2012 mode. Fighting forwards in an inferior car. More like Godlonso
I think this is a totally fair assessment. Charles has the capability of being as quick as Max or Lewis but this year especially seems to fall short. I think the reason behind that is difficult to discern, probably in part personal and in part because of the team.
🐐 podium
Carlos has more spare capacity than Charles...
Don't know if I necessarily agree with the Leclrec take. I think Ferrari's been at fault for about 90-95%, and for Leclerc to be doing so well last year for the championship only for his team to ruin his efforts takes a toll on him. If you look into the stats, he's has 3 accidents since 2019 yet people are saying he's accident prone. Meanwhile, Ferrari are constantly ruining his pole positions, pit stops, and making unreliable cars. I don't even think giving Leclerc giving a red bull is needed to win the championship last year, all he needed was at least a decent strategy and engineering team.
In F1 it’s literally the men vs the boys.
Old school kart racers vs the video game generation.
Funny, because Max loves his sim so much, we can consider him a gamer too. Guess Max is just something special, finely crafted into the racebeast he is today by his father, who had the honor to see up close how it was done by the Micheal. In fact, they were friends, the Schumachers and the Verstappens, went on holidays together.
@@EntropicExergy yes but Max is one of the greatest kart racers ever. He dominated in a CRG like Lewis and Kimi
@@twinturbo3470 That's true, he destroyed everyone in karting, has very impressive stats there.
@@twinturbo3470ominated in karting like Hamilton/Kimi? That‘s disrespectful towards Max. He has won more karting championships than the rest of grid put together and has by far the most successful karting career of any F1 driver in history.
Yes, all I want is close fights between them, it would be absolute prime F1
Good thinkgin that I agree on as well. How lucky we are to witness these drivers! I think you forgot to mention Lando Norris though. I think he is at least on the level of Leclerc and Russell, if not better. He just hasn't the material to show it.
Stop plz😂😂😂😂😂
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Imagine us getting this driver lineup in a 2030 24 race!
One can just wish both teams close the gap for next year. I believe it's possible considering how much closer both already are, and considering Red Bull's punition.
The most succesfull driver with 2 drivers that both beat the most succesfull driver of their time. Wow
alonso is the reason i watch f1 rn
Alonso -most skilled driver
Liberty should do something and make these legends race in equal cars on track in quali+race conditions. Maybe even a relatively cheaper F2/F3 machine or kart. Then we can actually see who can stand a little clear. Won't that be something. Do it at abu dhabi maybe, last race of the season, if you race a junior formula car.
Nah, you wouldn't see their true talents come through unless in a scenario of a title fight. You want to see those moments when diamonds are made under pressure and the best seemingly pull more talent out their arse like:
Lewis' late season form in a title fight, he pretty much becomes the perfect driver in those situations.
Alonso's magical race starts and orcastration of a whole race.
Max's near flawless race conversions of anything lower than P2 seeming like a myth.
Agree it's good to see three of the last generation's greats on the podium on merit but it's a shame it's in a season with poor racing at the front and easy wins for one drive giving us lacklustre races.
Does everyone just forget we had the same exact podium in Australia 2 months ago??
Let's be real. George Russell shits all over Lance Stroll. Like it's not even a comparison
agree 100% Leclerc could join the trio ,but he needs to improve !
Lando Norris probably is not in the Alo/Ham/Max league, but for sure is in the mix with Leclerc and Russell
No he’s not. He needs to win a race, on merit first.
@@gameofender4463 Dumb argument
@@deacon6638 That’s one thing he can do. Or do anything impressive which he hasn’t yet.
@@deacon6638 I don't think it's a dumb argument. Lando could've won Monza 2021 but he got beaten by Ricciardo. Surely, with his current car he's never going to win a race, I understand that. Lando is a great talent, but he has yet to show that he's world championship material.
@@Daxboy16 Idk man, does that mean that gasly and ocon are world championship material, since they won a race?
I am a big Ferrari fan and I really like LeClerc, unfortunately I do not see them winning a championship together. So with that I would love to see what Charles can do at Mercedes, but the question is would they want Charles and Russel considering what happened in 2007 that cost McLaren a title
I feel like redbull has recently become a tad bit a one car and a half team due to Perez’s good early performance and then kind of quite much falling off now
You basically knocked that one out of the park... IJS
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8:40 while you have to admit that Charles has that raw speed and talent and is able to out drive the car,you have to admit that he is crash prone. You have to take into consideration the car and the circumstances he is crash prone. He is able to pull out a result in inferior cars but he is often crashing the car,this is frustrating because he has the talent but unlike max he is unable to constantly stay on the limit and not crash.