What Next for One of the Greatest Drivers in F1?
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0:00 - How good is Fernando now
3:08 - Retirement
5:25 - Mercedes
9:26 - Red Bull
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it was a blessing to have him back again after thinking it was all done in 2018, will hit hard when he retires this time
I thought his chances of winning championship ever again were gone, but now considering, that he will join Red Bull. With his skill he will have very much chance to win the championship and challenge Verstappen to make intresting races for the fans. His getting multiple podiums with Aston Martin, while he drives in fifth best team, so I very much think he can stay up in pace with Verstappen at Red Bull. It would be the wrong move for Alonso to go to Mercedes, instead of Red Bull, because Mercedes currently cant produce car, that can compete with Red Bull, when they have somehow failed with their engineers, when Mercedes car is the fourth best in the grid currently, so Alonso cant win championship with Mercedes, but with Red Bull he for sure can.
@@Jout8-re1ij I know he'll be a challenge but I don't think he can beat Verstappen, because for starters, that team is built around Max, Max's raw pace and consistency over a whole season is unmatched so far, Fernando has days where he's a bit off, havent seen that with Max since Baku last year.
@@Jout8-re1ij Fernando himself said he does not want to face Max in the same car, nowing he stands little chance. Max isn't leaving RB as long as the car is competitive and he can take those championships, so you can forget about Fernando going to RB.
I dislike how people say he talks himself up. He's one of the best to ever do it, the absolute best by some metrics, he's just being honest.
whenever there's chaos in Formula 1. Alonso is always mentioned more than any other driver.
Fernando justs comes a different era. They dont make drivers like him anymore. He aint afraid to do things differently.
That’s why Fernando likes Max so much. Max is an old school dude and nando appreciates that in him.
About going to RB, people always talk about the chaotic Max - Alonso partnership, but I'm sitting here thinking about the real chaos that RB would bring. Alonso vs Marko in the press.
It’d be funny if Horner acted like Alonso’s ring manger in one corner and Helmut in Max’s. It’d be hilarious. But ironically Marko has been the one who wants Alonso. It’s been Horner saying you can’t put two alphas in one team.
@@The_ZeroLine. Max adores Fernando and Max as a triple champion has serious pull, especially with Marko and with the younger Matteschitz. If they want Fernando, they’ll get Fernando. I don’t think Max is the slightest bit afraid of having him as a teammate in fact, I think it will help keep Max awake for the duration of the races! Also, I think he himself is quite curious to see where he stacks up with him.
@@mamavswild They both really like each other. What a badass pairing they’d make. They could do F1, Le Mans and Indy Car together.
@@mamavswild Yeah I feel like Max would be the kinda guy to push for Alonso as a teammate. I don't think he would shy away from having a driver of his caliber as a teammate; would probably welcome the challenge if anything lol
Another south american driver.
At the very least I think Fernando just want another win before he retires f1
I wish, He gets atleast one year in that Redbull car because of his never give up attitude that he has demonstrated time and time again.
I don't think that Mac and his father are going to greet Alsono with open arms would cause chaos within Red Bull
@@barryalangroves8759 Yeah, they won't say it but that's what they would do. Block Alonso from joining Redbull.
Fernando isn't going to where Max is and Max isn't leaving a car in which his championship is guaranteed so you can forget about that.
Probably the greatest generation of drivers was the 2000s one: Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Raikkonen, Rosberg, Webber, Button and more; and this shows also today in Lewis (to be seen) and Fernando still performing in the top 5 of the championship
90s fare Better:senna,prost,Schumacher, Piquet, Mansell, Hakkinen, hill, villenueve, Irvine, Berger , alesi, Coulthard.
@@juryfagioli6170most of the driver from 80's
80´s were the best. with 3 of the goats competing in their peak (Senna, Prost, Piquet) and one very good driver in Mansell.
@@JanVishnevsky yeah i get It but the 2010s were dominated by Hamilton and Vettel apart from the se drivers the only driver from the 2010s that's worth mentioning Is Verstappen ,very few wins for other drivers even in good Cars(bottas,Perez)
@@chocolate5217 I disagree but they were also a golden era
Top 3 drivers of all time that deserves 5 championships or more.
El plan for the Redbull Seat
If that Red Bull seat is being given to someone new, I can see it being Sainz now.
@@gameofender4463 I agree but alonso would be more entertaining
@@gameofender4463 The dream would be that Max leaves RB and Alonso and Sainz both go to RB next year.
I honestly would love to see Max and Fernando together but I highly doubt it'll be close. I disagree with Aldas that they are in the same tier. Alonso is phenomenal in 70% of the races. Max is at that level in 95% of the races if not always. Max also is a better and more consistent qualifier.
Fernando could take races off Max in the same car but would be 100+ points behind come end of season.
@@daarom3472You're probably right, sadly. Max just seems like a robot, the way he never makes mistakes.
The most gifted and technical driver of all time ❤
Alonso and Verstappen as team mates would be great as you have a 3/4 time defending champion vs the most experience and tenacious F1 driver ever and it'll be a fascinating battle of the best current gen F1 driver vs the arguably the best driver of his era in regards to ability and adaptability.
I want to see this happen as it'll perhaps be the greatest dogfight in F1 in most of our life times, maybe even be greater than Senna vs Prost.
There is no argument. He lost in equal machinary to hamilton at his worst on his debut season.
@@hebisty4163 yes Lewis, we know you like to say this without any acknowledgement of the fact that Fernando had horrible luck but ok. Go to bed and give that poor vegan dog some steak while you’re at it.
Dude, if Alonso and Verstappen are teammates I would legit not care a wit about the rest of the field, I’d just be happy watching them 😂
Fernando does not go to RB since he knows he can't beat Max.
@EntropicExergy He can beat him and I bet Max would relish the challenge of Fernando in equal machinery and they both highly respect each other.
Absolutely agree with Fernando being a box office driver no matter if he is fighting for wins podium or midfield he always gives his all and does everything to get the best position he can be such a shame if he was to retire this soon especially after how good he was last year to want to see him in f1 till at least past the 2026 reg change
A Mercedes one-year deal for 2025 seems perfect for all the parties involved, but that depends on whether Merc even offer a better package than Aston...
That and whether Australia was a step in the decline of Alonso. Which I hope not. As he’s a legend.
But he can’t be in a top team if he’s resorting to those kinds of desperate moves.
Aston are better than Merc atp, Merc have no clue how ground affects cars work
@@AtreusMobile I don’t think they are. Merc were much faster in Bahrain. And George was faster in Australia. Jeddah, they were close, but it seemed like the Merc just couldn’t keep behind the Aston in traffic (which might explain what happened in Australia). But in clear-air I think the Merc is faster.
@@gameofender4463 How was it a decline? He was clearly the best of the non top 3 team drivers in Australia and punished for nothing
@@mertcanhacfazloglu4862 He got a penalty for erratic driving. He deserved that penalty.
I feel like right now there’s like 10 “well we’ll take you if they take him” agreements lying in wait, but no one’s pulling the trigger on the next big move that sparks the rest.
Sainz has the most pressure though since he’s the only driver out if nothing changes
imagine Alo and Ver vs Ham and Lec. what a season we will have!
Blud inserted Leclerc 😭😂
@@lMobiuscidl well….. he is ok. Trust me Ham will say he is champion material 😉😉😉😉😉😉
You mean Washedmilton?
@@Drakewyrmhold are you 10 😂imagine saying that and thinking you hold a W
I bet that Fernando will stay in aston martin f1. I think it's been a long time since he was in a team that backed him up as much as aston has for the past 2 years. And I'm also confident in the fact that they will bring some good upgrades and maybe also some good people (there's been rumours about Adrian Newey joining them).
@Aldas
Your ability to extract just the facts and give a non biased perspective of key qualities of drivers and issues in F1, is just amazing. Thank you!
Horner has said he's always wanted to work with Fernando and Fernando has always wanted to work with Adrian Newey. The only one that'd be against it is Helmut Marko but he's most likely on his way out
No he isn't, because if Marko goes, so will half of the team with Max, GP, Newey etc.. Helmut is staying, whether you like it or not. And Fernando isn't coming since he doesn't want to fight Max in the same car.
Ferrari: 16 Leclerc, 44 Hamilton
Red Bull: 1 Verstappen, 55 Sainz
Mercedes: 63 Russell, 14 Alonso
McLaren: 4 Norris, 81 Piastri
Aston Martin: 18 Stroll, 23 Albon
Alpine: 10 Gasly, 62 Doohan
Williams: 11 Perez, 12 Antonelli
Racing Bulls: 22 Tsunoda, 40 Lawson
Kick Sauber: 31 Ocon, 21 Pourchaire
Haas: 27 Hulkenberg, 38 Bearman
Sainz to RB isn't going to happen, Max punished him enough at TR already.
Aston Martin Stroll and Albon? It's quite hard for me to picture it.
Hear me out guys... single season deal at RBR for '25 before retirement for the climax of El Plan
VER/ALO v. LEC/HAM in Red Bull v Ferrari showdown.
-A title fight of (arguably)the most gifted racers in F1 maybe ever.
Fernando isn't going to RB when Max is there.
I really enjoy your videos keep it up Man
Nobody expected alonso to go back to ron dennis and mclaren after there history
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁😄
Alonso is a generational talent no question about that
One of the best driver awesome to watch him drive
I love Checo at Red Bull but Alonso vs Max would be a clash for the ages and something the fans would really love along with the sponsors.
PS Alonso's performance at his age should be inspiring for anyone that loves or hates the sport
People weren’t wrong to criticise or be skeptical of his return to F1, or his move to Aston Martin at the time - but he absolutely has proved he’s worthy of a spot on the grid and made a good call
They were wrong though, it's not like he was retired from racing in in time out of F1.
As an mercedes fan and a person who likes fernando i want to see him in mercedes because no doubtely he is probably the most talented most deserved driver
He proves every year why he is still my favourite driver
Alonso is creating the buzz again❤, he is truly amazing, people always talk about him, as you said he is a box office driver. He is still one of the best driver in the grid at this age and i think that he can continue this good from for next 2-3 years. He is the GOAT 💚
fire video
Id love to see a max/alonso 1 2 every race
I think he might retire because he has 3 options now:
1 - Aston Martin
Aston Martin needs to make a good jump in the next few months for Alonso to consider. They need to show him they have a serious team for 2026. Yes, 2026 cars are not guaranteed to good or bad at all but established serious teams rarely make mistakes. Red Bull was never below P3 at any point since 2009, Ferrari was never below P4 at any point in the last decade except 2020 etc.
2 - Mercedes
Mercedes right now is in shambles. But if they can convince him that they can give him a competitive car (engine, wink wink) for 2026, he might consider. Mercedes won't challenge for 2025 for sure though. Aside challenging, they probably will be P5. So, they really need to be convincing.
3 - Red Bull
Verstappen-Alonso would be a killer combo and I don't understand why Red Bull is not willing to do this. But they aren't. Unless Verstappen leaves, I don't really think it will happen
Red bull got P4 in the constructors in 2015
in red bull, it is precisely alonso performance which will prevent the team from taking him in, when you have drivers like max guarantee your team championship, there's no reason to bring in another championship contender to upset the balance, alonso certainly won't settle for no2 driver and that is precisely what red bull need
@@lansiman Red Bull is superior right now. That is not guaranteed for 2026. What if they have 2nd best car in 2026? Then Verstappen-Alonso as the best pairing might outperform the best car
@@faustinaadu2284 True, ok 1 exception
Fernando does not want to face Max at RB.
If a Red Bull seat is not an option, Fernando should stay at Aston and wait for the Honda engine. He has no future in Mercedes unless they become significantly more competitive than Aston this year. 🤷♂🤷♂
Alonso in a RedBull would be crazy. With max gone that would be the ultimate third champion title. In the more likely case that max stays I think it would be close but max would sadly win.
Max is staying, which is why Fernando isn't going to RB.
He's either going to Red Bull or to Mercedes. For those teams he can be really valuable. For Mercedes he can be a short term solution until they deem Antonelli ready. For Red Bull he can push Verstappen a bit more and pick up the occasional win if and when Verstappen has an off day/penalty or isn't able to finish the race. I also think that Alonso might enjoy the challenge of driving against Verstappen in the same car.
If he goes to Mercedes he could also make a gamble on them being good after the 2026 regulation changes, turning them into at least a race winning team again. Alonso being able to stay until then would abviously depend on how Antonelli performs in F2 and what Toto decides is best for him.
I don't see him retire just yet. More probable to retire at the end of the 2025 season. I also don't see him staying at Aston Martin unless they can really make him believe they can build a race winning car for next season. If Red Bull offers him a seat, he probably will (and definitely should) take it.
Not going to RB while Max is still there.
Although there's only been three races so far, and there's clearly been progress made by Kimi, he still seems a bit too green to jump right into F1. Qualified great in Australia, but spun on his own while wheel to wheel with Verschoor. The kid is so young. Maybe another season in F2 will help him develop the skills he needs. F2 > F1 is such a massive jump
Agreed. Absolutely do not one to see him rushed. It could really damage his confidence to make that jump too early.
Why do I adore Max? Because Fernando adores Max and that’s good enough for me. They’re both such characters.
Loved ❤
Grande Fernando!
I think the thing with Fernando is we just don't know how fast he is in the current generation of F1 cars. It's hard to judge the pace of that Aston when the the only other person in it is Stroll.
Compare Alonso with Vettel with the same teammate. Goes to show how much Seb underperformed in the aston in 21 and 22.
What about 2022 against Ocon?
@@ashutoshuniyal198 you mean 6-2 in total dnfs? Alonso lost around 50 points to things he couldn't affect
@@Divixlol I meant to say that Fernando did compete against Ocon in the current generation of cars, so we can judge him against Ocon too instead of only against stroll as mentioned by the op.
@@ashutoshuniyal198 oh I'm sorry I misunderstood it mb
Alonso is really something else. I agree that if you're good enough you're good enough no matter how old you are but F1 is an extremely physically demanding sport. He'll be in his mid 40s soon and he's still performing at the peak of F1. I don't think there will be anyone like him for a very very long time. I doubt anybody will be able to go on as long as he will in my life time.
can RBR please offer alonso give him a 1 year i wanna see a master piece every race
They won't and Fernando won't bite anyway because Max is there.
Tbh the great Fernando Alonso is the only reason I still watch F1. I hope he gets a chance to drive a race winning car for his last chapter of his fantastic and yet painful career.
Red Bull-Alonso would be sick, but chances are low.
Age is just a number; he is an outlier and still has a will to win. He is the most experienced driver and still razor-sharp. Give him the final drive with Mercedes
While I want Fernando to go to Red Bull so badly (I know he's good enough to challange for the title still) I don't see ot happening. And if the options are see arguably the greatest F1 driver ever drive in a mid-field car or move on to a Jenson Button-esque post F1 career of cameo drives in other racing series, I'd probably prefer the latter.
He’s going to join Jos at RBR. Max will be moved down to VISA Cash Grab. TBF, I remember the majority of fans + media being hyped when Alonso returned.
Nope, Fernando might go to VCARB, definitely not Max.
5:51 Stroll had good races in Bahrain and Australia.
Re Alonso vs Max (or any other top driver in a great team)... Think Senna vs Prost at McLaren. I don't often fully agree with Horner, but you really can't have two alphas in a team!
If he doesnt get a RB seat if not hopefully he stays with Aston Martin, he looks so good in green especially after getting the 100th podium with them
I don’t see why he’d even consider a move away from Aston. The team is built around him and they’re not worse than Mercedes.
I love this content. It might be the best F1 content... But I heard the cadence in the first video I watched, and I can not focus on anything else.
Fernando is my favorite driver together with Max. Would love to see him in that Red Bull and have them battle it out.
You mentioned the importance of team principal and the driver relationship and this is why one cannot say Hamilton beat Alonso at McLaren. Lewis was Ron's drivers and Ron didn't hide it either. Alonso was the outsider and he had to overcome that status.
“Age is just a number”😏
Max and Alonso will team up some time but when? And I love It.
In WEC, not in F1.
Nando still has another 8 years in f1. Idk why people think he's at the end of his career.
I hope that he will go to red bull and get the same changes/oppertunitys as Max maybe even a title fight
He does not want to face Max in the same car, he isn't going to RB.
Alonso vs Max in an RB car would be exciting as hell. I don't see it happening - Alonso is still ferociously hungry for a WC. He would never be happy being seen as a comfortable 2nd. Mercedes is in decline. Even as an LH/GR/Merc fan, I can see that. And I'm sure Alonso can as well. Given Alonso's relationship with Lawrence Stroll, his desire to be the #1 driver on the team, and Aston's push forward, I predict he'll re-sign with AM for next year.
The Goat
Big ol Aston Martin Signing
I want new blood on the track, but also want fernando on track forever
on the other hand Le Ocon " I have stong connection with Merc "
Jos Verstappen would go ballistic if Redbull signed Alonso, and Marko would just flat out refuse a driver as old as
Spot on he would make Alsono life unbearable within the team as it appears that Horner will always agree with Jos as Horner has no ba__s concerning Mac father
Fernando does not want to go there because of Max, so that little fantasy of yours isn't going to happen anyway.
Alonso to red bull would be such a dream
Just won't happen because Max is there.
I don’t think the teams understand this,
but if they’re being extremely critical about Alonso staying in F1 despite his old age (and how it limits the number of new drivers that can potentially join F1), then all they really need to do is let him join a good team like Red Bull and have him get his 3rd WDC. That’s all he really wants lol he is NOT leaving F1 without a 3rd wdc
It will probably never happen, but I _wish_ Fernando could get another title. In 2025, it would be 20 years between his first and last title then, a feat only the great George Foreman has managed so far.
I think that if Alonso did go to Red Bull that Max would push to have equal treatment as much as he could for the purity of the racing, I think the other players there, Jos, Marko etc. would be the ones causing trouble in the background. Also this would be the one chance this ruleset to see just how fast the car could go with Verstappen and Alonso pushing each other and the car. Probably have more reliability issues with Max having to push on more laps.
Fernando does not want to go to RB when Max is there, he knows he stands no chance.
Too early to guess, alonso is smart
I think he's headed for retirement at the end of the season. I adore him and have supported him since the early days (2004). However I sense he's not sure about whether or not to continue, hence why I think he'll retire.
Merc having the strongest driver lineup was a next level bullshit from you.
Except that, really informative video.
"better driver duo" doesn't mean both drivers are better. Arguably, alonso is better but the skill difference between alonso and stroll is a lot greater than russell and hamilton
russell has proven that hes fast and very good at crashing spectacularly and throwing away valuable points. imola 2020 and 21, silverstone 22, singapore last year and australia this year to name 5. and hamilton no longer has the fastest car
@@flopre9213 Imola 21 was Bottas’s fault. Silverstone 22 was Gasly’s fault and Australia was Alonso’s fault.
George and Lewis are extremely overrated. Brits will never be intellectually capable of understanding this.
@@gameofender4463It's everyone's else's fault except for Georgepedo according to you.
I wanna see Fernando go to RB and beat Max. He could absolutely do it in equal machinery.
Ye right 😂 and red snow is failing !
Not going to happen, Fernando knows he can't beat Max.
I want to see Fernando break El Chueco's (Juan Manuel Fangio) record as the oldest F1 champion.
Imagine him joining lewis st Ferrari
Fred Vasseur has stated he is still unsure about the Hamilton move. Checo is doing a great job. Alonso will end up in Alpine if he stays.
Before Fernando i never belived that the record or oldest world champion could be beated, after Nando am sure!
If Checo leaves, Alonso could easily be Max’s teammate for a year.
Because Yuki needs to show he has the maturity over another year in order to get a seat at Red Bull.
And if Daniel goes, the team will want a year’s assessment with Lawson and compare him with Yuki, (or D-Rick if they stupidly decide to keep him).
Fernando does not want to go to RB when Max is there.
@@EntropicExergy To be honest I think the same
@@barryalangroves8759 Well, he has said so himself, it would be stupid to claim otherwise.
2007 part II
Alonso in RedBull, Vettel in Mercedes, Hamilton in Ferrari, and Verstappen in Aston that would be the real silly season.
Max isn't leaving RB, so you can forget about it.
Who's here after Alonso confirmed that he's staying at Aston Martin!?!
Alonso retiring would be a loss bigger than Sainz not having a seat for 2025 fight me
I feel like Fernando in the RB would suddenly make Max look like Checo 😅 maybe I'm just too much of a fan of Fernando tho
Would be strange if Mercedes choose Antonelli to replace Hamilton as he would be a rookie. Top teams(I consider Mercedes among them despite their recent performance) usually don’t pick rookies. It would be like Hamilton’s debut with McLaren.
When I saw “The Greatest” first on the title 🙃then I see “One of”🙂
As usual I agree with you. There is zero benefit to Fernando to go to Mercedes. Mercedes will be uncompetitive until the new regs of 2026 and they will never treat him as well as Aston Martin does. At Aston Martin he is the undisputed number one driver and the team treats him like gold. And I do not see Red Bull giving him a seat and sparking a driver war.
Just a thought for the talk: If Toto had been talking up Mick so much when he was on the sidelines, + the fact that Mick IS the only other person to have a feeling for the Merc (atleast in the Sim), without any shot of a doubt - IT SHOULD BE Mick to partner George at Merc from 2025! Else Toto is just a Jerk who's been All Fart No Shit (AFNS)!!! - Damn! Has no one in the F1 universe NOT been seeing this!?
I think Horner will sign Alonso just to piss off Jos and Marko and Max for not backing him.
No he won't, he values his good night sleep too much to do so.
That sounds great to me
skill-wise i believe leclerc - ham would rival alonso - max however drama-wise alonso-max would be straight up better than cinema
Merc mess: Alonso would be the perfect like for like replacement for Lewis and Sainz would be a good long term project replacment but on Alonso Mercedes does make sense anymore cause the mess there in. Like u said a side ways step. Thts why I don't think he'll go to the silver Arrows.
Drink can chaos:
Tht RB teams to chaotic internally for me. Like u said he's coming as an outside. 1 of 2 thing's will happen 1)like said with Merc he'll feel left and the will jus be a serious case of De ja vu or he'll have to pick sides which also isn't good for him or the team. A bad idea for me with the only saving grace being there a title a contender.
Alonso's best bet
Stay at AMR. He's embedded into tht team already they've had a decent start of the back of last year having significantly less chaos then RB whilst currently showing more promise then Mercedes within the current regulations anyway. He should and I think will stay put.
I think Fernando will put up a better fight to max than Checo, but he’s not going to beat Max, not even close
New rule. Alonso gets a 20 second penalty for finishing in front of any English driver.
2:38 for the third time, you mean?
not talking himself up. just bringing up the fact of being a wc, he didn't upsold himself, but talked facts...
He's not going to RB they have too many drivers already.
Nico to Mercedes
5:50, yeah Lance has more points than LH.
It’s unfortunate that Lance Stroll is the unwanted anchor ⚓️ at the team. With another driver, Aston Martin would be further ahead and a real threat to other teams.
Given the history of Alonso picking the wrong team, i think he'll be taking that Mercedes seat ( sorry if jinx, thank god if i didnt )