Was Sony A7S III WAY Ahead Of Its Time?
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2022
- Sony A7S III is one of those cameras that come along every decade or so, that just seem to stand up to the test of time. Sony outclasses much higher priced cinema cameras in image quality, and when you factor in usability with autofocus and active stabilization, size, prices lenses etc. It will be tough to be the A7S III or FX3 for cinematic video.
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Hey man, not sure if it's easy to filter out, but there's this high beep coming of your electric scatebord, it's quite annoying
I say it all the time... No clue really how cameras work. I just love how he talks about them. ❤
You're filming yourself on an a7S III while skateboarding. That's terrifying.
If I had an a7S III, I would wrap it in bubble wrap and almost never move it. Too expensive to ruin!
As a Fuji user, I hate that the A7sIII is so good.
As a Fuji user i switched to Sony for video
Im happy my xt4, till mr camera guy here tells me sony can do 4k 120p.... thank god that whenever i touch my camera it sings through my blood, else I wouldn't be able to sleep
To be fair, that thing was above 4000€ at release when even the X-H2S is "only" at 2.7K, it better be great at that price range lol and it's "only" 12megapixels, which makes it great for low light but less interresting for photo.
And if you compare it with the fuji x-t4 well it's around 1700€... so yeah less than half the price ^^
Fuji is actually worse than Sony, poor build quality, lots of errors. Focusing issues. I need to sell my xt-4
Why though... It being good doesn't make your camera any worse...
I heard that high pitched hiss, I will describe it in details.
- The hiss was rather prominent whenever you accelerated on that one wheeler.
- When you stopped on the one wheeler the hiss went away.
- It reduced when you moved your head or did something like that
- in your studio(home) it went away completely.
I have a theory, either that hiss occured because of the air when you were riding or may be magnets in the one wheeler were causing it. It can happen.
In fact, I had to reduce the volume in order to not annoy me ears.
Yea, I hear it as well and find it rather annoying. End up skipping the video entirely as I can't stand the sound. Guaranteed to be the one wheeler.
It's very annoying
oh jesus magnets? thats gotta be the cause of one of his freckles. time to toss that pos board to the curb and start an all new diet.
I didn't hear any hissing.. wierd
I can’t hear any hiss…sometimes tinnitus is a blessing.
Only professional GH6 users will know that the real best shutter setting is 179 degree
That "thanks to Camera Canada" absolutely killed me. I love this channel.
You sir are a comedic genius!I'm a xt4 owner and a few weeks ago I managed to get the a7 siii as well with 15-35 Zeiss and the 55 Zeiss...I'm in videography heaven!Again you are incredibly engaging and entertaining!Thank you thank you thank you!!!
I’ve been using Z Cam since their first camera and was an early adopter of the E2. I’m glad to answer any questions you have and to help save some time!
For starters, the 160p 4k mode is great - but the catch is that it’s 2.39:1 aspect ratio instead of 16:9 or 17:9. 120 fps is the maximum at those ratios. The con is that you lose some resolution, but the pro is that you will gain SO MUCH cinema with the wide screen and frame rate!
Another is that there is some automatic exposure available. I’ve used automatic iso in the past along with manually setting aperture and shutter speed. It works fine, but it will be stepped (vs Sony who does it steplessly).
I think there’s also a 1080p crop mode that will get you a bit more reach (but I’d have to double check). It can do 240fps and the quality is pretty nice.
Anyway, let me know if you have other questions!
I have the FX3. Its basically an A7SIII that lives in a brutalist condo block and drives a Saab. I do love it.
I came from using an a6400 and later on a GH5.
It isn't the best, but it does a lot less wrong with a lot less faffing about than a lot of its rivals. I'm ok with giving up the margins to hit the center.
I just did a graffiti tour with it yesterday, it turned out great.
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hey does your a7sIII or the fx3 have a spot on your sensor? it looks like little rings right in the center of the censor and appears after the camera gets a little warm.
@@winterkat8693 No such defect over here. I'll absolutely have to keep an eye out for that though. You can take a look at some of my uploads to see if you spot something I don't.
@@POVwithRC ah! nice! unfortunately I had my retuned and another unit is gonna be available this week only. hopefully that unit does not have the issue. thankyou for the reply tho.
@@winterkat8693 It has to have been a one-off. I haven't heard of a lot of defects or pattern failures with the units in the wild. You know how the internet amplifies.
Best of luck with the second unit. Go Create!
Loved it. Great outdoor witty content.👍😊🇮🇪🇨🇦
Incredibly insightful video my friend. Day after x-h2 was announced I decided to partx my xt3 and xt4 for a7siii with a caviat that I might return to Fuj one day. All your observations in this video are exactly what I thought. As for a7siii - I am simply mindblown, what a camera.
And here I am using my legs like a chump... I gotta get me one of those new fangled contraptions.
I'm still learning mine, but I couldn't agree more with this sentiment. Honestly I couldn't believe how ugly I was after I saw myself in 4k, so thanks Sony for helping me to realize how many flaws I have to fix. I miss the custom video styles of the XT-4, but using LUT's afterwards is a decent fix in post to play around with. Do you primarily shoot PP8/SLOG3?
i had a choice between a7s3 and a R6. Got the R6, never looked back. Never overheated, never needed to record for over 30min either. Not gonna switch any time soon!
Love your channel... So original
Absolutely. I used to wanting to upgrade cameras every year. Pre-ordered the A7S3 on the day it launched, and never bothered to replace it ever since. IMO it's a perfect camera (I could nitpick the IBIS, but honestly it's alright)
Life lesson for today: Always press record. Thanks Kasey! :) And don't worry about user error. Some of us wouldn't exist without user error. ;)
Sony A7S III is miracle. Outstanding and super clean/clear video. Especially if using the Sony GM lens.
Sooo the FX3 with the tally light is the way to go then?
Love the new intro!
I would love to see CC do an A7S III tutorial for video. That or just share the lens and settings you use for different types of recordings.
Great idea.
This.
You’re the poet laureate of youtube camera channels. Thank you!
I never thought I would consider going back to Sony but the Sony A7S III may change my mind.
the high pitch noise is still there... just fyi as we age, we can no longer hear certain high-pitched noises as well as we did during our youth hence why you might not hear it. It is annoying to younger listeners though... you might wanna cut down the high frequency using a low-pass filter at 10kHz
True. It alsois coming from his skateboard motor
Agreed put a lowpass filter around 10KHz
Kasey, how about checking out the new Black Magic cameras with Gyroscopic data? I appreciate you hate catalyst browse and its extra workflow, the BM cameras use a very similar type process in Resolve but damn, the camera picture quality is quite impressive. Could be true cinematic magic...
You forget to mention the super speedy sensor update making te competitors look like a jumping jelly advert.
Agreed, A7S3 is still the king of kings, I haven't even looked at another camera for two years.
Me too!! Heaven on earth
the Sony a7s iii is nearly as jacked as you
as a long time fan of the fujj 16mm 1.4 i have to say the 18mm has replaced it in almost every way. The only time i would go back to the 16 is if i need a rack focus because of the linear focus clutch. I have been having a great time with the x-h2s but im also not doing vlogging with it.
Of all the gear at your disposal what would you expect to be the best for filming fireworks? Have you ever tried this out, I imagine after dynamic range, the ability to capture at slower framerates with clear sharp resolution would be key.
great video bro
The only thing the a7siii needs is a better screen. I wish Sony would come out with an a1 with a flippy screen that was worth a damn and somewhere between 12-20mp. Same a1 guts/internals
Yes i bought one year ago this camera and i still feel like i bought it yesterday.
The only update i was happy for is viewfinder fix as it sucked during summer
Yo but there is some weird high pitched sound 6:55
Hey Casey. Does the A7iv have the same IQ as the Siii? If slow motion is not a factor?
Common knowledge that the a7iv has tweaked color science and sharper image. Even the a7iii has a slightly sharper 4k image than the a7siii due to its downsampling from 7k
Can't disagree at all. I tried to save for A7S3 but it turns out to be too expensive for me considering the lens, memory cards, filters etc that has to be bought with it. Can I ask what backpack you are using with the chest strap?
mostly all camera bags have that
@@whyamihere11 I have seen a few, most have waist strap only and not chest strap, but the one in this video looks more comfortable.
Same. Sony has made it too expensive.
What are you moving along with?
Test gh6 and gh5 ii. Let's all go to Camera Canada.
Grt, from belgium i love Your Chanel
Yes, there's a 15.5 KHz wine like the old tube TVs used to make.
Awesome video and 100% accurate. Plus, the zooming around on bike paths just adds another level of enjoyment to the overall video. Always happy to see a notification for a new video
I wanted the 4-channel sound, and slow motion. I should have waited for the FX3, as the XLR handle attaches securely, like on camcorders. A7S III I would have liked more in a camcorder. But cripple hammer. Camcorders can't be this good, and cine cams have to cost more.
- I'm getting intermittent screen black outs. Happens when the camera gets warm, used harder.
I like that 20mm field of view.
Funny you just posted this, I am looking into getting an A7SIII and wonder how it's aged since it came out when compared to the competition.
Guess I'll continue to ride the Sony Reptilian train. I just wish Sony gave us that godamn focus breathing compensation on the A7SIII, we are still waiting...
Just get it. I’ve had it a couple years and just got the A7iv as a B cam also thinking I’d use that feature all the time with the 35mm gm. I haven’t used it once lol so if that’s holding you back don’t let it.
Focus breathing comp. would be nice but you actually just need it on focus pulling. You do that 1% of time usually. You can have a lens with no fb specifically for that. I use a7siii with 20mm f1.8 and fb not noticable as people complain. Unless again you do focus pulling (who does that on 20mm). 35-200 focus pulling most fun
@@Derrick_Evans Ok, I am convinced. I can hear my wallet crying already!
@@Donbros True, true. That feature is probably exaggerated af to be honest. I don't do any focus pulling. I will be using the A7SIII with autofocus 99% of the time.
@@lucasliaskos i bought it and never looked back. Any alternativrs I am interested besides a7s would be double the price (a1 or fx6) but i better invest that into glass as i did for 16-35gm and 20mm g as of right now. Also it has amazing viewfinder. I find it very useful at summer during video. Its the cqmera that has more features then you actually use and you sometimes randomly stumbles upon those features and you are like: oh wow that a nice feature! I am going to use it too. Didn't even know it was in software package!
Fb comp. As i said can be nice but I really don't want sony to go lazy on their new lens design (as they did with distortion comp. On some new lenses) and make them new designed lenses not stay in frame when focusing. It should be cared out by design and fbc more as a backup solution. 20mm is forgivable just because it is extremely small and has sharpest corners i ever seen. If they tried to make it with no fb it would have been bigger and not a lot would be interested
Tempted by the Z-Cam E2S6, as you pointed out it has no stabilization, the A7S III many not be "perfect" but it will definitely do what I need.
Not hearing a loud high pitch
Hi Master Kasey, I do indeed hear the high frequency sound but its fiiiiine. Ps I Love You.
Man I didn't hear it, then you mentioned it now all I'm hearing is this constant high pitched noise. In fact it's still audible when the video is paused explain that
Not like NX1 and NX 30 were way ahead of all them.
woah nice new intro
there is definitely a high pitched noise when youre on the skateboard.
Hopefully some day one of the companies will hire you to help building "the perfect camera"! ;)
Hey Kasey. Looking for a hybrid to use alongside my BMPCC (1080p ver). I will use it for filmmaking and for stills.
I'd like 10 bit 422, definitely good AF and good IBIS. I have two Sigma EF lenses that I don't mind adapting as long as AF is usable. I've considered many options like GX80, G9, GH5, S5, XS10, XT4 etc. I almost got the XS10, but I didn't because it doesn't have 10 bit and it doesn't seem like AF and IBIS is reliable enough. Same goes for XT4, which is a bit on the high side of my budget and still only offers 4:2:0 10 bit. GH5 seems like the best option, but I just don't want another 2x crop in my life and I want the AF to be actually reliable. A7SIII and A7IV checks these boxes, but they're just too expensive for me. What do you think would be a good cheaper option?
Yeah I can hear the high pitch noise, I was listening through my iPhone speaker so it might be louder with headphones too
Your content gets better by the upload! So fun to watch. 😂
13:05 Finally proof that the Nikon Z30's tally light is advanced alien technology that we all need
The only weakpoint of the A7SIII is the extremely poor noise performance
Yeah. I hear the high pitch noise too. Would be great if you figured out how to remove it. Other than that great video!
I would like to see a review of the Sony A7iv
😅🤣 ending had me dead
The slow firing shutter was definitely behind it’s time. Like shooting with a log.
Do you mean s3 has slow shutter
I have Nikon d500 how would it do in photos...?
@@turgs1 slow firing, focus takes too long kinda thing. A pro needs to be able to push the button and get a photo. I’ve never used that Nikon so I’m not sure but most Nikon / Canon are fine.
Can you let us know your video settings?
You probably need better headphones to hear the high pitch sound. Try some Sennheiser HD800 headphones. Their optimum studio headset is a great tuned option to really rank up your audio skill.
As a hybrid camera, I will take the excellent performance of the X-H2s and the increased MP of the Fuji. Also, there are recommended settings that make the 240 slow motion shooting work well.
How are you steering the scooter and holding the a7siii? What mount are you trusting with that?
It's a skateboard.
I'm refreshing E-bay looking for you to sell the A7SIII. Been eyeing the new Sony phone since a lot of places I go to dont allow cameras but almost everywhere lets you record with phones, sensor size will always be a limitation of course but the tech is amazing these days with all the focal lengths and software. You boast about the (whawhey) have you tried any Sony phones and thoughts for vlogging?
Just as you said there was a high pitch I realized that It might not be my tinnitus acting up more than usual. Low and behold it was in fact you video :(
Haven't gotten through the beginning ad yet but...
Yes
I wonder if the wireless mic and the wireless skateboard controller have anything to do with the high frequency noise 🤔
Maybe do a test without the wireless mic or without the skateboard and see if it goes away 🤔
Love the Sonys, especially the A1, they only lack in anamorphic modes. No de sqeeze or proper anamorphic stabilization, that’s why we still keep a GH6 around.
Use External monitor with anamorphic desqueeze option.
the pitch is still there, do be hurtin
you need a onewheel, no remote in hand needed, smoother ride, goes everywhere
Got both, evolve with all terrain wheels and OneWheel. Skateboard is safer but OneWheel is more fun.
May be each camera with tally lights and a fat red frame on the screen that indicates the you are actually recording is better than a camera where you miss the shot.
I love my a7siii it’s my favourite camera of all time
Didn't realize there was a firmware update for our lovely A7Siii's..... looked up the release notes and it is close to a useless and featureless update 😢 give us the focus mapping, breathing compensation, shutter cover sensor thing for swapping lenses SONY 😢
Sad A7SII/FX3 had color issues green/yellow rolloff is terrible. It was fixed on the A7IV.
Loud high pitch sound confirmed. Somebody cannot hear it because is to high pitched, also subject to sound system.
At the minute marker of 4 minutes and 24 seconds you could see in the pond the ancient remnants of a civilization long gone by.
How the hell are you walking so fast and smooth....
Still can hear the high pitch noise, but not near as bad. I love the channel, but couldn’t take the videos when you were riding whatever it is you are riding lol.
Editability? You said it. I understood it. It's a word.
Dude your absolutely right.
It is good it’s just greeeeen, the color science just still isn’t there
How would it NOT be green in this situation?
It's ridiculously sunny out, and he's in the trees. (light reflects)
Hearing the high pitch noise at around 5:28
I own a lot of cameras, and the A7S3 is the best. The auto exposure is probably the best feature that people don’t talk about. The Auto focus on it is excellent too. It’s expensive, but we’ll worth the money. The other great Sony camera that I have is the ZV1. It’s basically a miniature version of the A7S3. Most of the time I have it mounted on a Crane M2 gimbal, and if I need to vlog, I put on a Ulanzi wide angle lens on it. If you can’t afford an A7S3, get a ZV1 until you can.
I just couldn't effort 7siii What about the zve 10 bro ? I have been thinking of getting it
@@EracBrahma ZVE-10 is a great choice too, if you can find one.
3:27 - no, it was great, cos it was produced in real life scenario with all it's challanges. It also proved the camera was released prematurely without extensive testing, something that happens a lot more often lately and not just in cameras - electronic instruments are in the same boat when we buy a gadget and the first thing we do is to WAIT for the firmware UPDATE.
take my $7 and save me from my Lumix breathing AF nightmare
Loved the Potato =D
Yes external EVFs are a thing.
I just wish the A7S III had better stills specs. Then it Would be perfect hybrid
holyshit new OP！
Just bought one 6 weeks ago.
Not a big deal but the motor does seem to make a very high pitch noise, the kind that is beyond most adults hearing. Nothing a low pass filter wouldn’t fix
Edit: probably set low pass around 10KHz
Canon R5 ...30 minute recording limit. Painful.
I actually bought one from Vistek, and returned it the next day and traded in for the A7siii.
I guess that I get it on the R5 because it tries to do too much, but why oh why on the R6?
Sony dropped the cripple mic. Don't go above 2.8 or you will create a disturbance in the Toneh.
I don't hear any high frequency noise also Sony is king 👑
I don't deserve the a7siii and my wallet laughs at me when I think about it.
Finally someone admired Sony's color,in my opinion it has the most cinematic colors among you have tested
How could you do that to the FUJI ? :p lol
the cameras almost 4000 dollars there are cameras out rn that match or are better, that are the same price range
Yes high pitch noise.