Car Painting Basics: How Long Do I Wait Between Coats?

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
  • In this Painting Basics Episode, we learn about flash times and how long we should be waiting before we spray our next coating. From Sealer, base, pearl and clear I will share my trade secrets with you that will produce great results every time!
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  • @Loompius
    @Loompius Рік тому +98

    I always laugh when I see the "This generation isn't as handy as the last generation". I can get on UA-cam and learn from some of the best teachers in the world at their craft. I restore boats for a living and couple years ago I knew nothing, now Im rewiring motors, rebuilding motors, fiberglass and body work, upholstery and painting. Literally everything, thanks to people like Brian. I couldn't do any of it without people like him. Dude, thanks a ton. I mean it.

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  Рік тому +10

      Thank you! I’m old enough to maybe be a part of the old generation 😅

    • @conquester4890
      @conquester4890 Рік тому

      Yeah you have confidence and practicality to do it! I always think if someone else can do it then why can’t I

    • @wanhb9387
      @wanhb9387 11 місяців тому

      In India car paint it's no good at all. You have done a great job ❤❤❤. I'll try to learn something from you.

    • @KOSerg-vo2qb
      @KOSerg-vo2qb 10 місяців тому +2

      This generation is lazy

    • @conquester4890
      @conquester4890 10 місяців тому

      @@KOSerg-vo2qb depends what race you’re talking about because the Polish are anything but lazy they’re very good workers it’s the British who stay at me and do f*ck all.

  • @MegaSunRise3
    @MegaSunRise3 Рік тому +23

    It's clear you put so much effort in making these videos... Just letting you know we appreciate it a lot 🙂

  • @philtucker1224
    @philtucker1224 Рік тому +3

    Hi Brian, thanks for another brilliant and super-useful lesson in spray painting. I’ve learnt more in the last four years than in the previous forty! Bless you buddy! 👍

  • @dubCanuck1
    @dubCanuck1 Рік тому +6

    OK. The tape sticky tip was the most valuable tip I've seen in almost all the time I've been trying to learn to paint.

    • @mikemetcalfe1526
      @mikemetcalfe1526 Рік тому

      how about checking for flashed off paint by touching an area your not going to see. thats a good one too

  • @Pszczoa-jr7sg
    @Pszczoa-jr7sg Рік тому +1

    You are a sensational paint sprayer ... Your UA-cam channel has taught me a lot. Thank you and I look forward to seeing more videos. Rafał from Poland

  • @zeljkopiljic-kz9so
    @zeljkopiljic-kz9so Рік тому

    Brian, you were a great help and with the help of your clips, I painted my bumper like a pro!
    Best regards!

  • @zombl337og
    @zombl337og 8 днів тому

    Painting my Car rn, and its my first paint job ever. Got a bunch of new tools, and new skills along the way :)

  • @jamespolucha8790
    @jamespolucha8790 3 місяці тому

    I always wanted to paint a motorcycle that I built but I’ve never painted before, I’ve watched so many videos and talked to so many people I think I’m ready, I’ve been waiting for a year, I purchased sealer, primer,base coat, clear coat, activator and a half way decent paint gun, I bought tack clothes , cleaners sand paper, I even bought a buffer,so I put plastic up and an exhaust fan in my garage, I just need some good weather and guts to start, thanks for the videos

  • @scottvenema718
    @scottvenema718 Рік тому

    thanks for doing these videos with the care you give to them. I have learned I have a lot more to learn!

  • @charlespartak2435
    @charlespartak2435 Рік тому +1

    awesome info as usual Brian, and yes I learned something, thank you !!

  • @svlamancha9877
    @svlamancha9877 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Brian. Another great video. My project will have a white base which will then be masked and taped to produce a design in a couple of other colours. Then clear coat over the whole thing. A video showing how to tape. When to tape. When to remove tape. And all that good stuff would be great. 👍

  • @iitsED
    @iitsED Рік тому +2

    Always so knowledgeable!👍🏽 learn in every video

  • @eduardolinares858
    @eduardolinares858 Рік тому

    Been waitting for this so much. thank you

  • @Pallidus_Rider
    @Pallidus_Rider Рік тому +2

    Best series yet 👍😎👍

  • @darrell394
    @darrell394 11 місяців тому

    Thank you Brian. Your videos are very helpful and well explained.

  • @ATL514
    @ATL514 3 місяці тому

    Appreciate the tips Brian, first time doing tri-coat! This video was perfect!

  • @jamesmasanja1963
    @jamesmasanja1963 Рік тому +5

    Thanks from Tanzania 🇹🇿 ❤️

  • @StanAsher
    @StanAsher Рік тому

    Always love the vidoes...and all the wealth of information...you're the best...thank you..

  • @rodrigomartinelli741
    @rodrigomartinelli741 Рік тому

    Love the concept of these videos.. i might dare to grab a paint gun one of this days..

  • @shawns57garage
    @shawns57garage Рік тому +2

    Your advice is excellent 👍

  • @pacettid
    @pacettid 2 місяці тому

    Excellent video. I’m going to stop overthinking it and get ‘er done!

  • @transportationdisasterprev6250

    Thanks for your time and knowledge. Good video 🤘

  • @ronaldplatts2011
    @ronaldplatts2011 Рік тому +1

    Brian, Another great video, always love learning as a DIYER here on the channel, you do such a great job on these videos. I have a question- how do you know how much paint to mix for the application you are doing?----thanks and have a great day

  • @chuckzamzow9
    @chuckzamzow9 Рік тому +2

    Great advice again 👍 I agree on the tape trick.
    On another video can you go over or if have chemical pop when clear is not flashed correctly or applied to heavy?

  • @richarddechau4200
    @richarddechau4200 Рік тому

    Great video Brian

  • @ae86edrift
    @ae86edrift Рік тому

    I like these little short videos with tips.

  • @Hutchy45445
    @Hutchy45445 Рік тому

    I like these Paint Society Quickies

  • @PHARRAWAY
    @PHARRAWAY Рік тому +1

    Awesome video nice tip

  • @jimfeaster4837
    @jimfeaster4837 Рік тому +2

    Great tips...

  • @johnsaah1821
    @johnsaah1821 Рік тому

    Thank for the idea 🙏🙏

  • @karlavillajulca9683
    @karlavillajulca9683 Рік тому

    great video ❤

  • @williamhernandez1441
    @williamhernandez1441 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi brian thanks for the information that you bring to us, one question what happens if i dont apply the clear coat the same day that i applied the base coat? Can i apply the clear coat 2 days after i applied the base coat? Thanks

  • @chief4088
    @chief4088 Рік тому +1

    Brian
    I have a question for you , what type of respirator do you use and how often is it replaced . And what brand of full face respirator-does Pedro use? I wear full hooded PPE outfit when I’m painting, I still have a lot of overspray on my face shield, how do you clean it. Maybe a video on proper use and precaution when painting would be helpful. Thank you and your team for the best videos on painting

  • @davidg5704
    @davidg5704 Рік тому +2

    Great tips. I bought superslow reducer but getting cooler so I'm going to use medium. Avg Temps 72-75 here. Is that correct?

  • @reyjr3608
    @reyjr3608 Рік тому

    May I ask what tips and cap that you using in dv1 clear gun?..great video by the way..thanks😄👍

  • @HighRevGarage
    @HighRevGarage Рік тому +3

    Nice job!! Is it okay to spray base coat one day and clear coat the next day?

  • @kickemassicus
    @kickemassicus 5 місяців тому

    Love your videos I always learn something new. Where are you located in Florida?

  • @frankvalencia9227
    @frankvalencia9227 Рік тому

    Hey Brian and the paint society, is the clear base or blending additive is what’s also used as a wet bed to blend metallics?..thanks

  • @gregfrench2173
    @gregfrench2173 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the effort. I'm about to paint my first car... I'm terrible with subjective things. I can handle 10 minutes etc.

  • @user-cm1sy4gy4f
    @user-cm1sy4gy4f 8 місяців тому

    Very educative

  • @AN-ce1nd
    @AN-ce1nd Рік тому

    Brian, I paint RC model airplanes. I’ve always used the PPG line of paints. My clear of choice is PPG 2021. Unfortunately it’s to expensive! What would be an alternative cost effective clear? Thanks

  • @mikemetcalfe1526
    @mikemetcalfe1526 Рік тому +2

    for the advance class, can you go over how to "de-nib" after sealer and before clear coating. very informative video

  • @johnsaah1821
    @johnsaah1821 Рік тому

    Nice job 🙏🙏

  • @derekmardones4938
    @derekmardones4938 Рік тому

    best paint videos

  • @shawns57garage
    @shawns57garage 11 місяців тому

    Hey Brian … if I need to reapply more clear coat ..can this be done if it’s been more than a day ?

  • @tedc9306
    @tedc9306 Рік тому

    Good stuff

  • @Cam-wi3tp
    @Cam-wi3tp 9 місяців тому

    thanks for the video but can you spray sealer 1 day, primer the next day, couple days later do base and another day finish with clear? I just did my 3 wheeler and i just felt rushed thinking i had to do it all one after anoither in a single day. That paint actually turned out good but I used a kandy brandywine with a silver base and man, I didn't realize how fast our Florida sun faded this paint! So no more Kandy lol

  • @drogba2k10
    @drogba2k10 Рік тому

    brian!!! Can you do a video on how to mix paint? How to mix waterbased or solvent based and adding thinners etc!!!

  • @manolitojr.paglinawan8079
    @manolitojr.paglinawan8079 Рік тому

    From Philippines here. Thankls

  • @GaryTaylorvw
    @GaryTaylorvw 5 місяців тому

    Hi I’ve just laid my first coat of 2k high gloss acrylic down but run out of time to do the 2nd coat, will I have to lightly sand it before I do the 2nd coat in the morning ? I’m not sure what the longest time I can go between coats that’s all and the paint supplier takes forever to get back to you 🤷🏼‍♂️ great paint though covers great, I’m in the U.K. and painting in my garage

  • @northwestoff-roadopportuni7176

    Thank you!!!

  • @elsadatjakupi2832
    @elsadatjakupi2832 Рік тому

    Hi do you have a forum where we can ask questions about things not covered in a video?

  • @johnblythe5664
    @johnblythe5664 Рік тому

    Brian,
    Thanks for all the videos, you teach us so much.
    Can I paint my vehicle 2 colors and a clear coat all with the same spray gun?

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому

      Technically yes.
      Basically why painters use different guns is, the guns have different setups (caps, needles, hole-sizes), and disperse the fluids different.
      Also you dont want any colour leftovers in your clearcoat for example, so cleanliness is key.
      So while it's far from ideal for a professional to use one gun, for DIY and beginners it's completely fine.

  • @zackk695
    @zackk695 7 місяців тому

    Now did you use adhesion promoter since your painting on flexible plastic?

  • @killadelphia215
    @killadelphia215 5 місяців тому

    Do you apply adhesive promoter on all bumpers or certain ones?

  • @laskothuglife9581
    @laskothuglife9581 Рік тому

    Thanks from Jamaica

  • @davegunner2717
    @davegunner2717 Рік тому

    Thank you 🙏

  • @jamesharlanjohnson6882
    @jamesharlanjohnson6882 Рік тому +2

    I will be painting my truck in a well protected carport. 1-2 panels or areas at a time. After the body work and sanding primer is finished can I spray white primer sealer and then set it aside for days or a few weeks before painting the color? Thanks for all your videos.

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому

      After bodywork and apllying primer is the smartest point to set them aside for a few weeks ( even months are fine ). You want a complete covered and sealed off panel/area.
      Sand the primer when you can do it all together as quick as possible. Ideally in a single day, if you take more days, be sure to give "older parts" a quick re-sand in the end.
      Sealer is used as a "wet in wet" system. it isn't 100% cured while apllying colour, so the colour can chemically attach to the sealer. So you don't want to wait days or even hours.

  • @Forgon_1
    @Forgon_1 6 місяців тому

    Hey friend hopefully you see this what did you mix your pearl with?

  • @elijahstauth8991
    @elijahstauth8991 Рік тому +1

    It’s like you made this for me, I’m painting a 19 Lexus bumper just like yours. But I’m doing it from my house

  • @cleosession4495
    @cleosession4495 10 місяців тому

    can i finish spraying clear over the first coat of clear was done yesterday it got dark on me im painting outside

  • @andrewbrown1463
    @andrewbrown1463 Рік тому

    Why pearl coat instead of clear coat? Is that a softer sheen? Thanks great video.

  • @kameronmaclean678
    @kameronmaclean678 Рік тому

    Brian I love what your doing. I’ve vinyl wrapped my van but I feel your videos give me the confidence to do a spray job instead. Can u recommend a spray gun attachment. God bless

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому

      Depending on the state of the paint, vinyl is arguably better than repainting your car. It will conserve the paint underneatch as a protective layer, and repainting a car or vinyl wrapping can quickly come down to the same costs.
      Brian has some of his sprayguns listed in his bio:
      3M Performance Spray Gun: amzn.to/3BXUwPu
      DV1 Clearcoat Gun: amzn.to/3BBqL5O
      Clearcoat: amzn.to/3UsNgm1

    • @kameronmaclean678
      @kameronmaclean678 Рік тому +1

      @@MrDuLukes Hi buddy thank you very much for your response which makes perfect sense and thank you for the links👍

  • @lawrencemccoy
    @lawrencemccoy Рік тому

    thanks

  • @Shadow-wq4xh
    @Shadow-wq4xh 10 місяців тому

    How long does it take to paint a car? For example I have a Scion TC and it’s going to get painted to a dark metallic green.

  • @edmondpower5722
    @edmondpower5722 Рік тому +1

    I presume that you are using solvent base not water base which would need more time between coats. Very good video thank you.

  • @pravinxp
    @pravinxp 29 днів тому

    Does Sikkens have a Blending additive? If so can I get the product name and code?

  • @bnassaayoubrahim1279
    @bnassaayoubrahim1279 Рік тому

    Greetings to you from Morocco Professor Brian I want to ask for paint booth is excellent

  • @stefansk8
    @stefansk8 Рік тому

    Is it really bad if you put 2k clear over 1k base that was sprayed the day before?

  • @sunnysingh8483
    @sunnysingh8483 Місяць тому

    Rattle canning some brackets that go on my car right now. Wish I had a spray gun 😂

  • @ariesanfilippo1078
    @ariesanfilippo1078 Рік тому

    Hey this was awesome explanation. But when your doing the whole car. How is the flash time determine since it’s a bigger object to paint

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  Рік тому +1

      From the point in which you started spraying.

  • @michaelfrancis3261
    @michaelfrancis3261 4 місяці тому

    Can you spray on Clearcoat after about 3 hours?

  • @alexandarpetrovic6801
    @alexandarpetrovic6801 Рік тому

    super

  • @stevegus2845
    @stevegus2845 Рік тому +1

    How did you know I googled this yesterday. Thanks! But what is too long between 2k clear over base before its too late, considering it takes set up time to clean out gun and mix clear.

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому +2

      u could spray base and then spray the clear the next day, but the longer u wait its most likely the clearcoat may not bond(stick) to the base and will peel in the future. When will it peel is anyones guess though.

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому +1

      Often manufacturers say it's ok to paint within 24 hours. To be 100% sure, check out the Technical data sheet of your paint. You might need to look it up online.

  • @tomkriskoswara
    @tomkriskoswara Рік тому

    Is sealer and epoxy filler same?

  • @foxjoe2157
    @foxjoe2157 Рік тому

    Hi Brian! I am your fan and adore your craftsmanship! I have a question for you: Is the interface water used between the mixed activator and the old and new paint the same material? Greatful!

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  Рік тому

      Interface water ??

    • @foxjoe2157
      @foxjoe2157 Рік тому

      @@PaintSociety product name:fade out Thhinner

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому

      @@foxjoe2157 Old paint was solvent based, having a fast drying reducer.
      New paint is waterbased, having litteral distilled water as reducer.
      Hope that answers your question.

  • @Earlydoors272
    @Earlydoors272 11 місяців тому

    What do I do if I get pulled away after the first coat and it completely dries?

  • @mirceaisaila1454
    @mirceaisaila1454 Рік тому

    Hi, Brian! A quick question for you: is it possible that when using spray cans, the time between two coats to be shorter than if using a spray gun (in a spray booth)?

  • @mirabalmedia
    @mirabalmedia Рік тому

    My brother works at a paint shop. He waits 3 minutes between each cost of clear using extra slow reducer. I never heard that before. I always hear from 10-15 minutes

    • @angelonikitaras2977
      @angelonikitaras2977 Рік тому

      depends on the clear some are tack & wack eg medium coat followed immediately by a wet 1, Debeer has a air dry clear thats a wet coat followed by another wet coat, most HS clears at app 23 degrees is 5 to 10 mins depending on hardener used so there no 1 rule

  • @walterkucharski4790
    @walterkucharski4790 Рік тому

    Hi Brian How long can I wait between color coats without cleaning the gun. If I wait 30 min can I just leave the gun with paint in it? Thanks.

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому

      Everypaint is different, but yes u can wait 30mins.

  • @ocdaddvids
    @ocdaddvids Рік тому +1

    I wish the shop who messed up my burgundy Dodge caravan front bumper watched this episode. The base is to dark and the pearl hardly matched. High end shop who my insurance sent me too. Id love to learn how to paint to eventually fix it but i probably need a little practice first:)

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому

      It might differ from country to country, here in Germany, that might be a reason for a do-over, with costs covered completely by the bodyshop.
      Now front and rear bumpers in generell are made out of plastic, and doors, rearpanels etc are out of metal. In 95% of the time, painted plastic will differ a bit from painted metal. That is true for factory paint, aswell as bodyshops.
      Talk to the guys in the bodyshop, explain your concerns, and ask for reasons and a solution. Don't go immediate apesh!t, it happens to the best, bodyshops often have a very limited timerange to operate in.

  • @Sarfrozkhan
    @Sarfrozkhan Рік тому

    do we need to change any setting in paintbooth during flash time ??

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому +1

      It can help to heat up the booth a bit for flashing paint, especially if you have a lot of layers and/or horizontal panels. Be sure to have temperature back down to around 20C / 68F - 25C / 77F if possible.
      This is not necessary, might just quicken the whole process.

  • @donaldrobinson3770
    @donaldrobinson3770 Місяць тому

    What happens to the paint if someone sprays the pearl on and doesn’t wait long enough to clear coat?

  • @andrewhigdon8346
    @andrewhigdon8346 Рік тому

    This might be the most important video you have done to date. It seems that some things need to cost before it to be completely “dry” or “cured”, not interchangeable terms, while others need to be in that crucial window of tackiness so that the next coating will adhere better. It’s also crucial to have the right temp and especially humidity for the paint you are using. And manufacturer recommendations can sometimes be worthless. I’ve had a recent crisis of touch ups. Such that one tiny mistake requires sanding several coats away to get a good surface for recoat. My questions are: why does it seem that sometimes I can’t prevent “crazing” (cracks in the paint like dried mud cracks even with correct humidity range and temp, yet other times with same conditions it seems I could pile coats on with great results. I’m in Charleston, SC, so very similar conditions to yours, but in a garage, with a window AC, and a dehumidifier rated for 1500 square feet for climate control. Man I have to clean those filters every other day. Black paint and dust gets everywhere. Basically I shoot for less than 60% RH, and it’ll never get below 30%, so mid 40’s is good, 55% is still kinda high, 50% is fine, 30% leaves “dry” finish or runs, one or the other, ugh. Oh, and rattle cans exclusively. I went with Paintscratch.com after you used that in one video, and I’ll say it’s very good paint, but can’t find its makeup, and the MSDS is Greek to me. I’ve really got what I feel is good technique as far as distance, speed, overlap, etc. Regardless of primer or paint or clear, I always do a “mist” cost first. Then second coat a little wetter than that, then third wetter than the second, and so on. Crazy part is I have had good AND bad results with both the expensive, factory code mixed Paintscratch.com paint, and, of all things, out of desperation, Rustoleum. Car is Mercedes ML320, 040, black. The mixed paint has a strong blue tint until a zillion coats finally become black everywhere. But it applies better, with less chance of crazing, yet it’s often splotchy, The pattern is much better though for bigger panels. The Rustoleum Automotive grade goes on nicely, narrow pattern though, so it’s easy to get a run, but goes on glossy, and stays that way, unless it starts to craze. If I can get a solid base coat, let it cure at least six hours, I can then get away with applying clear coat, the SprayMax2K, only. Ok, again the questions. Why does it seem like the expensive stuff takes a million coats, yet when I wet sand for buffing, it gets down to primer too easily. I just don’t get it. 1000 grit, till it glides easily, then 1500, 2000, 3000, maybe 5000, then 3M compound, red print. The fender looks more glossy before even wet sanding than the tailgate looks after. The Rustoleum had only been on the bumpers, but easily got great gloss even before clear, and now the clear has been curing for ten days, still looks great. Oh yeah, temp is usually around 77-82F. On my Brilliant Black Pearl Magnum, paint went on splotchy, and as you said in another older video, don’t worry, the clear will get rid of that and bring out the gloss while wet sanding. It did just that. I do wet sand my primer to 400 grit until it looks and feels perfect when dry. Brilliant Black was splotchy, clear was splotchy, wet sanding several days later gave me a factory finish, I swear the results were enough to make me cry. The wagon is my baby though, so. But on the Merc, same habits, totally different results. Nice smooth 040 paint, nice clear coat, did at least three coats, but not five, can’t get it to shine glossy, even with usually wet sand regimen. And on the hood, same number of base coats, burned right through to primer and/or blue tint during 1000 or 2000 grit, safe, careful wet sanding. I do check for tackiness on a tape line before recoating too. Ok I guess the ultimate question is how many clear coats are too many? Using the SprayMax2K of course. I’ve heard three is where you want to stop. That regardless of cure time between coats, the first may not have cured enough and may not cure with five coats above it. I call BS on that. I’ve had the clear run, but never craze. On the bumpers I did at least four coats, but not six. I say this because a coat isn’t always a coat. Regardless of technique and attention to detail, that spray, combined with inevitable overspray getting on the coat you are still doing, is going to be different mills. Take a side of an SUV for example. You do the fender, then the front door, then the back, then the quarter. The fender gets overspray , dry, from the front door, and so on down the line. The paint bounces off, or even just from the tip, floats around a bit before settling on the paint you just slaved over for countless hours. That’s part of a coat. You see a “dry” spot while doing another section, and if it’s still wet, you do a quick and careful pass just to be sure, only on the third or fourth coat though. And if it’s still flashing off, wait and hit it later. I’ve had situations where all the care in the world, temp, RH, distance, speed, even paint type, have given me bad results that should have been e epic, and good results that should never have been. Right now my ML320 bumpers are being allowed an extended cure time, and got Rustoleum under 2K clear, and still look like they might not even need wet sanding. Yet, my tailgate, which got every detail perfect, won’t gloss no matter what. Why does the clear add gloss and cover splotchyness sometimes and not others? My base coat on the tailgate with proper 040 looked perfect before clear, and I allowed 12 hours before clear. Yet, the result sucks. I haven’t wet sanded the doors or fender yet and they’ve cured for three weeks. Is there really a window of time where the clear is safe to wet sand, but not fully hard, making wet sanding easier, as I’ve heard? I recently wet sanded six hour old 2K clear over crappy Duplicolor Inferno Red and the clear seemed hard as a rock, no problems at all. It also seems like a lot of the manufacture suggestions are motivated by getting you to use their products exclusively , and not best results, as I’ve broken lots of rules and gotten great results while sticking to the rules exactly and getting bad results too. Maybe too many variables for you to answer. To attempt to simplify, how many coats of base and clear, each, are too, many? Do I have to invest in a depth gauge to keep from cutting through what seems like plenty of base coats? And why can’t I just spot respray base over those burns and then recoat clear over that? Damn this shit is so complicated. It seems that using a compressor/gun would just complicate it even more with all the mixing and such. And don’t get me started on blend lines. Uuuuuughhhhh. Why can I still see sandpaper scratches through all the layers after clear when I couldn’t see nor feel them before base? Why does clear sometimes get rid of splotchy base but not other times? All related to this video.

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому

      thats alot of questions my dude

    • @Macmonkey1000
      @Macmonkey1000 Рік тому

      @@JimmyJiveJones I think he may be overthinking it .

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому

      @@Macmonkey1000 its just paint

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому +1

      Holy moly dude... let's try to dissect:
      You are using spraycans, the paint within those cans differs quite a lot, to the ones used with a spraygun.
      First off, shake your cans before every use, and in prolonged use inbetween really well. The paint seperates from the carrying fluids and solvents, leaving you with translucent paint coverage. Shaking will mix those again, allowing easier and faster coverage.
      Spraycans have different caps, basically there's 3 types: o -shapes, O - shapes, and () - shapes. For greater surfaces use the () - shape caps, to reduce lines, and get even coverage.
      If a layer is not fully cured, and then added another layer to it, it can result in a variety of problems.
      Painting in a garage/room without ventilation leaves you with a big problem, especially if you paint great amounts. The solvents will build up in the ceiling, slowly falling down, causing havock on any paint.
      The splotchy paint sounds to me, like the can is "spitting", meaning, there are little pockets of pure air in between the solid stream of paint, that is a sad reality of spraycans, can't do more than shaking the can inbetween, keep the cap clean and hope for the best.
      If you do notice the spitting, go over the splotchy area again.
      Paint cracks like dried mud, occur in specific conditions. If you have different layers of paint, and under the condition, that a underneath layer is not fully cured, while a followup layer covers that not cured layer, and the top layer dries faster than the not cured layer beneath.
      Technically there is no "too many layers", it depends on the thickness of your layers. That's why that question is better answered in "µm". Factory paint is about 200 µm, bodyshops tend to be above that, up to 300 µm, given a unpainted, raw surface.
      Now you probably don't sand down to a raw surface, so as a rule of thumb, don't have more than 3 complete layers of paint (sealer, colour, clearcoat).
      Spraycans have a lot, and I mean a LOT of solvents in them, that try to condense outwards. Leftover solvents in cleacoat, will turn the clearcoat matte. That may be so for the entire panel, or splotchy parts.
      Also those solvents might not like layers beneath, etching/destroying them. They are really aggressive.
      Having different thickness of paint is really up to you. I always tell my apprentices: "painting is like moving a computer mouse. dont look at your hands, then the sceen, then hands, screen.... your hand moves, your eyes are fixed on the surface. Look at reflections while painting, you'll see if its a good/same amount of paint." For a horizontal hood you want to move slower, than a vertical door.
      I would never do a "mist" layer in basecoat or clearcoat. Brian has some superb videos on how thick a layer should be, and how it looks like.
      Elongated scrathes, like sanding scratches stemming from coarse sandpaper, tend to "fall in". Be sure to sand out your sand scratches properly, don't be shy to use guide coat. Don't do too big jumps, max 100, i.e: P80 to P180, to P240 to P320 is all fine. Don't do P80 to P240, the finer sandpaper can't dig in deep enough to get rid of the coarser scratches.
      Be sure to sand a little bit more area with each finer sandpaper, at least increase by an inch every time.
      Hope that about covers your questions.

    • @mikemetcalfe1526
      @mikemetcalfe1526 Рік тому

      Andrew, try painting one or two panels at a time. when a panel that you spray come out perfect replicate what you did on the perfect panel to the others. also, using a paint gun is much easier for bigger paint jobs. practice is key and when something works. do it that way. wow like you painted 3 cars with spray paint thats a lot of unessesaary hard work. just learn to spray with a spray gun

  • @bstrange3124
    @bstrange3124 Рік тому

    Are those flash times minimums? Can I seal one day, base coat the next, and clear the day after?

  • @lucasellyson6872
    @lucasellyson6872 Рік тому

    So I’m kinda confused, is sealer used before base just to not use so much base coat? Or is it’s purpose for something else?

    • @les1ed
      @les1ed Рік тому

      even coverage and main function is prevents different shades of color in the paint

  • @rbilardo47
    @rbilardo47 Рік тому

    Hi Brian, I used two different brands of rattle can on my new bumper, both cans did not match the original paint color on honda civic 2008. Paint code is NH701M grey metallic. Can I order this code somewhere in a quart size ready to spray without having to mix anything? I appreciate your help, thanks.

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  Рік тому

      Check paint scratch . Com

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому

      Your not gonna match ur bumper to ur car with that paint code. That color is on the difficult side when it comes to matching.

    • @les1ed
      @les1ed Рік тому

      take your car to your paint supplier they will bring the sample spray out cards of that color out to your car and match it they will make you a spray can for about 30 bucks lots of paint code have 9 variations or more

    • @rbilardo47
      @rbilardo47 Рік тому

      @@les1ed Thank you Brian, you're the best. Always enjoy your videos. You are so right about the variations, I just hung up with a paint supplier and he explained to me that these vehicles were made in 3 different places, mine was made in canada and the 11th letter in my Vin# is H. Now there are two variations one lighter the other darker, I chose the darker because the paint is more like a brown. He'll ship them tomorrow, hope this works. God Bless.

    • @rbilardo47
      @rbilardo47 Рік тому

      Sorry Les, I thought this was from Brian, I apologize. You are 100% correct. Thank you.

  • @10Tenths
    @10Tenths Рік тому +1

    If I was spraying primer from a spray can would it be ok to leave it overnight then apply colour and clear?

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  Рік тому +2

      If you sand the primer once it cures

    • @10Tenths
      @10Tenths Рік тому

      @@PaintSociety thanks, which grit would you suggest for that?

    • @the_bearded_anesthetist
      @the_bearded_anesthetist Рік тому

      @@PaintSociety can you do the same with base to clear? Or do you have to base and then clear within a certain time?

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому +1

      @@10Tenths I would suggest P400 before primer. Depending on thickness of primer, sand primer with P600/P800.

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому +1

      @@the_bearded_anesthetist Depends on the manufacturer, often you have a 24 hour window. To be sure check out the technical data sheet of your used brand.
      I would still advise to go around that issue, pick a day with enough time, to do (sealer), base and clear in one sweep.

  • @gasmonkeycustomssrilanka
    @gasmonkeycustomssrilanka Рік тому

    😍😍😍

  • @marcuswhite1403
    @marcuswhite1403 Рік тому +1

    Brian,
    I'm currently trying Debeer HS clear coat. I've been working on painting a hood black, but I seem to keep getting dieback. I'm using slow hardener in the clear and the weather has been around 80-90 degrees. The TDS say 5-10 min between coats of clear. I have tried almost all the minutes within the 10min. It seems to still be somewhat tacky within the 10min. I know some say it should be tacky between coats and some say it should be handslick. I'm not sure if my flash time is causing my problem

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому +2

      theres many factors that can be causing ur problems. Putting on a clear too heavy would cause dieback. Clearing at a low pressure could do it too cause it didnt atomize properly. Basecoat not 100% dry. It could also be your booth not being perfectly balanced. Or even waiting too long to bake ur clear. Air drying it.

    • @sealisland1
      @sealisland1 Рік тому +1

      Heavily pigmented base coats (like black) need more flash time. Try giving it 30 min before clearing. Often, die back can be buffed out. Just give it a couple of days before doing so.

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому +1

      I should also saying a non proper cool down cycle could lead to dieback, even taking the car out of the booth too soon after the bake cycle could do it too

    • @marcuswhite1403
      @marcuswhite1403 Рік тому +1

      @@sealisland1 I usually give it 30-60min before clearing. I've tried cutting and buffing die back in the past, but looks like it eventually comes back over time

    • @sealisland1
      @sealisland1 Рік тому

      @@marcuswhite1403 it takes a long time for solvents to completely escape. That's why they say not to wax for 3 months. Try buffing after a month or so. Can't hurt and it may help.
      Also, an expert painter told me that with the value bases(Omni, Nason...) he lets them sit for 24 hours before clearing.

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    @pb06detalingking Рік тому

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  • @moa8839
    @moa8839 Рік тому

    Are you air drying in between ? Or just letting it flash on “spray mode”

    • @JimmyJiveJones
      @JimmyJiveJones Рік тому

      I wanna say Brian is spraying solvent base so theres no need for air blowers to dry the base.

  • @Mactrizel
    @Mactrizel Рік тому

    Any chance you'll do a viewers car as video? I could really use a full paint job

  • @Abrikozenjam.
    @Abrikozenjam. Рік тому

    But can you actually put too much paint on a non flexible object?

  • @jus1975
    @jus1975 Рік тому

    why did you use blender additive. It looked as if you where painting the whole bumper and not just blending a spot

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому

      Basically he did paint the entire bumper. The clear base is for a smooth paintlayer, means less risk to need to buff.

  • @marshallallen72
    @marshallallen72 Рік тому

    I guess you really gave up on the devilbiss GTI pro lite and Sagola extreme for clear coat.

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  Рік тому +1

      For now I’m on the dv1. It fits me best

  • @torowazup1
    @torowazup1 Рік тому

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼🍎😎

  • @ChemysteryKids
    @ChemysteryKids Рік тому

    Doesn't he look just like Brian from impractical jokers? 🤣

  • @MrSGH21
    @MrSGH21 Рік тому

    I am a house painter. Why is there no paint on the floors and walls? We have to cover everything completely if not overspray will get everywhere. I see that you even spray in garage and inside . To me is unfathomable to spray inside even in a garage without covering everything. Even the small cans make a ton of dust and overspray so its not the airless sprayer that makes a lot of overspray

    • @PaintSociety
      @PaintSociety  Рік тому

      We are in a spray booth

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому +1

      A spraybooth has a built in ventilation system, sucking out air on one end, and blowing in from another end, all through filters.
      Also frequent cleaning.
      But You're right, the booth does look good in this vid, had the same thought.

    • @MrSGH21
      @MrSGH21 Рік тому

      @@MrDuLukesthanks I have always wondered that. I did see in another video that he did cover the floor

    • @MrDuLukes
      @MrDuLukes Рік тому

      @@MrSGH21 in this video, he had only a bumper in the booth, and it's mounted comfortably high. Not much overspray that could reach the floor. If you have a sideskirt mounted on the car, it's a bit different in that booth.