I used to use the side angle on my old laptop setup due to limitations on desk space. Now since when I changed my pc, desk and all the works, I converted it to a more conventional sort of forward face interface and which resulted to my aim to worsen overtime. From watching your video it reminded me on this old technique to switch back and use this and now I can finally see results on my aim improving. Thanks!
I'm having this issue, where I'm trying to arm aim, but either my chair is too short to my desk and my arms are heavily weighed on it (so i cant move them, or my arms are too sweaty and stick to the mousepad, causing me to be unable to use arm aiming. I've been trying to fix this for 2 years to no avail, I can't find any solutions.
@@cookies3294my guess the issue with your arm sticking might be from the humidity from where you live, try an artisan pad they are good for high humidity but finding one in your area is risky if you don't use the official site as clones are very deceiving. Desk position is tricky if you don't get the right adjustments, Ron rambo kim has a good video on it so I recommend giving it a watch
@@cookies3294 How did you end up fixing this cuz every problem you're experiencing I also experienced and it's been super annoying and IDK how to fix any of them.
I'm having this issue, where I'm trying to arm aim, but either my chair is too short to my desk and my arms are heavily weighed on it (so i cant move them, or my arms are too sweaty and stick to the mousepad, causing me to be unable to use arm aiming. I've been trying to fix this for 2 years to no avail, I can't find any solutions.
it may seem obvious but i didnt realize you were supposed to rest your forearm on the table for arm aiming, i was confused on how people arm aim with their arm hovering over the desk lol, thanks for the tip only problem i have now is my mouse hits my keyboard, my desk isnt very deep since its not a real desk but a kitchen counter top turned into a desk lmao
@@Cash_s ohh i ended up just putting my keyboard back as far as possible then putting my arm so the mouse is a few cms from the keyboard (depth-wise) it's not as comfortable but it's the only option lol
I cannot thank you enough, I was already a platinum voltaic aimer but this video LITERALLY boosted my scores by 1.8x. It felt weird at first and it took me a second to fully understand how to get comfterable with it BUT holly shit. All of my scores went above and beyond median and realized that I was coking myself the whole time. I cannot thank you enough for showing me the way to improvment.
Even after watching your tips, I'm still struggling to incorporate arm aiming. And then the issue I get is I had carpel tunnel surgery on my mouse wrist, so when I wrist aim, my wrist gets tired after just an hour of playing if that so I can't find consistency anymore. Sad times :( I've spent hours in DM, aim labs etc, just focusing on arm only but I wake up the next day and all is forgotten
I play with my whole arm on the table and honestly I thought you had two until I saw this. My desk has narrow cut outs for legs so you can't really twist your legs and I can't rotate my body and there just isn't enough room on my mouse pad with my arm fully on it to have a good range of motion. Short of getting a new desk are there any tips you might have? I might just have to switch to a standing desk or something
@@dirtyd2162 Honestly bro, a deep desk and a desk pad would suit you xD I tried twisting my position with my hayate otsu xl (16 inches by 16 inches) mousepad and it works for me. I just had to rotate the mousepad a little bit to give me the same surface area I have when I'm sitting normally. Another thing is those tables with slight/small half-circle cutouts in the middle so you can better position your body and your whole arm on the table can also help you I guess, but that is short of me saying, get a new desk.
that was a really fast and good tutorial i wanted to switch to arm aiming because my wrist hurts after long sessions or when i play like 3 days in a row which just wasnt ideal
What are your thoughts on having the back of your palm touching the mousepad? I’ve often wondered if people who use arm aiming keep their palms completely free of the mousepad to avoid friction.
Definitely recommend having the base of the palm, and the forearm in contact with the desk. The friction is actually quite helpful. If there is too much friction, an aiming sleeve as discussed in this video may be helpful ua-cam.com/video/7cnjeqLBZ4A/v-deo.html and a better sitting position can also help out ua-cam.com/video/RyhzcJTqxs4/v-deo.html. Hovering the palm or arm takes a lot of effort and all it really does it create a great deal of instability and fatigue.
@@TheMeta It was very difficult to play for long periods without having the base of my hand rested. I did some testing with this and I wasn't very comfortable. I do think my desk is part of my issue as well....the one I have now has one of those pull out shelves underneath the desk (where my kb/m sits), but what I find is that I have to set my chair very low to get my arms at a 90 degree angle and I end up curling my legs underneath me causing knee pain. If I raise my chair then I'm sitting above my kb/m. This is most likely what is causing me to feel like I have too much friction when my palm is rested.
@The Meta Question: Currently transitioning from wrist (20 years) to arm. Can I use my wrist as a pivot point (putting pressure on the pad) at times if doing small adjustments or just use forearms/arm joint as pivot point? I've watched dozens of arm aim tutorial and they didn't mention if the wrist area can be use as a pivot point in micro adjustments on certain occasions. I asking because, using the wrist as pivot point makes it easier for me to aim in small adjustments especially in slow moving targets because I'm a wrist aimer all my life. The only problem I've encountered using wrist in conjunction with my arm is the friction of the wrist creates if I want to adjust on bigger swipes or if the ranges is at it's limits.
Actively planting the wrist typically isn't advisable, but most aiming on an actual target is done with the wrist. The forearm is there to get your hand/wrist where it needs to be so it can aim at things.
Hello. I want to ask you how to do it right. When I use a palm grip, should the end of the palm (where the palm ends and the hand begins) rest on the playing surface? Or should this "hump" be in the air and not interfere with movement? Thanks in advance for your reply. I would also like to ask you to contact you on discord so that I can send a photo of what I'm trying to talk about
Horizontal moves are ok but I am struggling with vertical movements when I place my arm to the desk. I am living in hot and high humidity enviroment so my arm sticks when I try to move vertically
I dont know how to explain it but having more of your arm on the desk can make a super low precise sens feel a good bit faster than if you had less of your arm on the desk
How much pressure do you have on your arms? Do you have very slight pressure and essentially drop your shoulder and let the arm droop when you are resting? Or do you have the edge of the table as the highest pressure area and adjust the amount of wight you apply there? Or do you have a fairly firm amount of contact across the entire forearm with slightly more towards the back? Finally do you maintain medium level of contact at all times and completely change the possition of your arm when not aiming to rest it?
I hated having my arm on my mousepad I hate the friction and feeling of my arm being dragged across it. I fixed this by wearing a long sleeve soft shirt… this sounds weird but seriously my arm is able to move freely and slide across my mousepad just like my wrist does and it feels more natural than my arm digging into the desk. could help you if you aim similar to me !
Yep! There’s less resistance when you have fabric covering your arm. That’s why some people like to use arm sleeves. A long sleeve shirt does the job just fine, though.
I’m going to start aiming with my arm, I was a wrist (abuser) for 2 years it was because at the time I had a small $20 mice, so I only needed to use my wrist
I've never been able to get my chair to sit straight like that. I've been through many gamer chairs and office chairs and they all lean back naturally.
when i arm aim am i supposed to rest my forearm on the table and try to aim or should i try to lift it up a bit to lower the friction then aim lifting it up a bit for more than 30 minutes causes forearm pain
BROOO FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MY PAIN anyways I've been trying to figure out how people move their arm vertically without arm friction yet their shoulders don't hurt😪
@@pablotherobloxadventurer4621 but because of the shoulder pain i have gotten used to just resting my forearm on the table sure it might give me a bit more friction but that's what I'm comfortable with so you can try it out for yourself to see if it works for you
@@pablotherobloxadventurer4621 I was a wrist aimer for 2 years and I did try switching to arm 1 year ago but it didn't work out for me because I didn't know how to place my arm while aiming but finally after a year I am now an arm aimer. but I still do sometimes use my wrist for micro-adjustments
My arm sticks every time going up and down. there's stutters every time it sticks to my wood desk. Solution is a sleeve or long sleeve shirt. Also if you have too much weight on the palms it sticks. Solution is a billiards glove with the fingers cut out.
I've been doing arm aiming wrong for years after switching I guess?????? I have been keeping my entire arm off the table(I'm sitting quite high up in order to do so) and only planting my wrist for precise movements. I am supposed to plant some portion of my arm? whether it be 30-100% as you said?
COOL TIP: a great way to stop wrist aiming is to not use 10cm/360!!! I understand that you might be cracked at fortnite, but you have a whole arm for a reason
I think most pro players use a combination of planted wrist, planted arm and hover arm aiming depending on the situation. wrist for micro adjustments, planted arm for the majority of flicking to what's infront of you in your cone of vision and hover arm for 180 turns.
Hovering the arm take a lot of effort and reduces control/stability. As Radizzle mentioned, hovering or lifting the arm would be fine for big movements but not when actually aiming at targets.
@@TheMeta I have a problem when hovering my arm I get shoulder pain overtime but I can do vertical movements easily, but if I don't hover it my shoulder would'nt hurt yet I can't do vertical movements properly, any tips that you have to fix this?
Scenarios like pattargetswitch, ascended tracking v3 and mccoy 1v1 are a good place to start as they require you to aim at targets all over the place, while also requiring some precision once you target them.
bruh i really hate my table like there is like a keyboard table under the actual table and monitor table above the middle table and i cant get my legs further cause of this damn last table where i mostly use it for adapters
woould this still work if a part of ur forearm was planted onto the mousepad and another part of ur forearm is planted on ur desk but not the mousepad?
@kovvaks Im not sure if this is me or im just stupid but I watch all these videos and i think I have a pretty healthy mouse grip, forearm position and desk and chair higheth but i have recently started to feel very awkward at my desk feeling like i have no range of motion or control over my mouse which results in me moving my mouse pads over and over trying to feel comfortable and now i never am, so i was wondering if you could think of anything that could guide me to feeling comfortable again because all my kovvaks scores are going down :(
Sorry to hear that, I'm curious to know why there is no range of motion with the mouse. Sitting too high can definitely reduce the range of motion as your aim lifts up off the pad when aiming upwards. Or playing in a humid environment with no sleeve can make your arm stick to the mousepad.
@@TheMeta Thank you for the advice It probably is because of my chair height compared to my desk my feet barely touch the ground and sometimes my chair randomly lowers so it makes my position inconsistent and also I found that it is also a sort of mental block because when I start doing bad I start feeling uncomfortable and as the game goes on I get more and more uncomfortable to the point where I go crazy so it also might just be placebo effect
When I arm aim I feel like I have my shoulders in the shrugging position slightly and it makes it very annoying to play, I've tried lowering my chair and then it'd worse, I've raised my chair then the arms hit, help
@@Norwayscs that's what I've been doing as the common sense thing. It's taking time to adjust. Appreciate the answer to a silly question. Thank you chief.
Im my opinion, aim trainers aren’t necessarily the thing u need to get good in valorant, yes it will help but, it will be much better to use your perfect sens, map awareness and stuff like that if u do want to get better at just aim, crosshair placement, and map awareness do death match until ur arm breaks and u cry because of how annoying it is. But by the end of it u will seriously see improvement in aim, if u want to get better at abilities go into custom games and try stuff out and see if that helps or watch videos of pro players and see what they do. Hope this helps even though its late.
@@beeeman_ In the last month, I didn't find a good kovaak routine so I did a Deathmatch routine and watched pro matches, I was on diamond 3, I am currently on radiant, your advice is good, seriously
oh so that was my problem. My wrist stays exactly at the position that you warned bro. Thankue very much 🙏🙏🙏. I will stay careful and get some annihilation 😎😎😎.
The claim of wrist aiming being suboptimal is misleading. It's really about personal preference. You can wrist aim with your forearm on the table just fine to the point about tendons is easily avoidable. The decision depends on a lot of factors such as whether you use a heavy or light mouse, how much space you have, what sensitivity or DPI you prefer, what feels more comfortable, what game your playing, and also if you care more about accuracy or reaction time. I personally use a heavier mouse on a hard pad with an edpi of 3200 for csgo and other fps titles and it works perfectly for me. If you need to make wide sweeping motions with accuracy(entry fragging, spray transfers, complex spray patterns) then you'll want to use your arm most likely. If your going to be performing smaller inputs and adjustments(holding angles, insanely fast flicks, and Awping) then wrist aiming will benefit you more. Of course nothing is a hard rule because its really more of what you're personally comfortable with but the majority of players on a competitive level(especially for fps) will use both types of aiming to maximize their advantages and minimize any drawbacks of only using one style. Also if you're playing something like fortnite or minecraft with a building mechanic, then arm aiming is your best bet. Overall tho, you should play around with different styles, dpi, sensitivity, weight, and pad surfaces to find what works for you. If you always follow what everyone else thinks is the best way to do something then you'll never know if YOU could do it better in a different way. You can't break the mold by copying what's popular.
OMG! or just buy a "SAW" and make the 20cm by 60cm by 20cm "hole" in your desk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! desk without the hole is not ergonomic nor gaming.. it's a kitchen table! and up 25cm your monitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the gods love
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Wow thank you so much!! I have been suffering from carpal tunnel from decades of gaming and this finally made it comfortabe!!
I used to use the side angle on my old laptop setup due to limitations on desk space. Now since when I changed my pc, desk and all the works, I converted it to a more conventional sort of forward face interface and which resulted to my aim to worsen overtime. From watching your video it reminded me on this old technique to switch back and use this and now I can finally see results on my aim improving. Thanks!
I'm having this issue, where I'm trying to arm aim, but either my chair is too short to my desk and my arms are heavily weighed on it (so i cant move them, or my arms are too sweaty and stick to the mousepad, causing me to be unable to use arm aiming. I've been trying to fix this for 2 years to no avail, I can't find any solutions.
@@cookies3294 i feel you brother :(
@@cookies3294my guess the issue with your arm sticking might be from the humidity from where you live, try an artisan pad they are good for high humidity but finding one in your area is risky if you don't use the official site as clones are very deceiving.
Desk position is tricky if you don't get the right adjustments, Ron rambo kim has a good video on it so I recommend giving it a watch
@@cookies3294 How did you end up fixing this cuz every problem you're experiencing I also experienced and it's been super annoying and IDK how to fix any of them.
@@Mrpremium9870 I haven't. Try to get a booster, or buy a chair that has armrests.
Thank you for this! As a relatively new PC player from console the whole concept of MnK was crazy to me. This helped tonnes and was short/sweet!
Same I’m getting my Pc Today Soon!
@@ElijaWydmainacc have fun :)
@@necrofanatica thank you
Yo im just starting (4 days in) i feel this!
I'm having this issue, where I'm trying to arm aim, but either my chair is too short to my desk and my arms are heavily weighed on it (so i cant move them, or my arms are too sweaty and stick to the mousepad, causing me to be unable to use arm aiming. I've been trying to fix this for 2 years to no avail, I can't find any solutions.
it may seem obvious but i didnt realize you were supposed to rest your forearm on the table for arm aiming, i was confused on how people arm aim with their arm hovering over the desk lol, thanks for the tip
only problem i have now is my mouse hits my keyboard, my desk isnt very deep since its not a real desk but a kitchen counter top turned into a desk lmao
Did you fix it?
@@Cash_s fix what?
@@nidgithm your mouse hitting your keyboard
@@Cash_s ohh i ended up just putting my keyboard back as far as possible then putting my arm so the mouse is a few cms from the keyboard (depth-wise)
it's not as comfortable but it's the only option lol
a 60 or 80% keyboard might help
In the process of becoming an arm aimer and perfecting my grip. It's tough but so are the streets of tsrkov! Love your channel!
1:16 same things happend to me, i did see any youtuber talk about this issue thanks
exactly what i was looking for, awesome video.
Thanks a lot bro!!, rly helped me improve my aiming and hand movement
I cannot thank you enough, I was already a platinum voltaic aimer but this video LITERALLY boosted my scores by 1.8x. It felt weird at first and it took me a second to fully understand how to get comfterable with it BUT holly shit. All of my scores went above and beyond median and realized that I was coking myself the whole time. I cannot thank you enough for showing me the way to improvment.
Even after watching your tips, I'm still struggling to incorporate arm aiming. And then the issue I get is I had carpel tunnel surgery on my mouse wrist, so when I wrist aim, my wrist gets tired after just an hour of playing if that so I can't find consistency anymore. Sad times :( I've spent hours in DM, aim labs etc, just focusing on arm only but I wake up the next day and all is forgotten
I play with my whole arm on the table and honestly I thought you had two until I saw this. My desk has narrow cut outs for legs so you can't really twist your legs and I can't rotate my body and there just isn't enough room on my mouse pad with my arm fully on it to have a good range of motion. Short of getting a new desk are there any tips you might have? I might just have to switch to a standing desk or something
how about a bigger mouse pad, do you have space?
@@musicah8496 I have the glorious xxxl
@@dirtyd2162 Honestly bro, a deep desk and a desk pad would suit you xD I tried twisting my position with my hayate otsu xl (16 inches by 16 inches) mousepad and it works for me. I just had to rotate the mousepad a little bit to give me the same surface area I have when I'm sitting normally. Another thing is those tables with slight/small half-circle cutouts in the middle so you can better position your body and your whole arm on the table can also help you I guess, but that is short of me saying, get a new desk.
I started to play arm today as a wrist player and after a couple of hours my arm started to cramp and was very sore
that was a really fast and good tutorial
i wanted to switch to arm aiming because my wrist hurts after long sessions or when i play like 3 days in a row which just wasnt ideal
What are your thoughts on having the back of your palm touching the mousepad? I’ve often wondered if people who use arm aiming keep their palms completely free of the mousepad to avoid friction.
Its not a big deal if some palm contact is made. Depending on your mouse and mousepad some friction isnt a bad thing...
Definitely recommend having the base of the palm, and the forearm in contact with the desk. The friction is actually quite helpful. If there is too much friction, an aiming sleeve as discussed in this video may be helpful ua-cam.com/video/7cnjeqLBZ4A/v-deo.html and a better sitting position can also help out ua-cam.com/video/RyhzcJTqxs4/v-deo.html.
Hovering the palm or arm takes a lot of effort and all it really does it create a great deal of instability and fatigue.
@@TheMeta It was very difficult to play for long periods without having the base of my hand rested. I did some testing with this and I wasn't very comfortable. I do think my desk is part of my issue as well....the one I have now has one of those pull out shelves underneath the desk (where my kb/m sits), but what I find is that I have to set my chair very low to get my arms at a 90 degree angle and I end up curling my legs underneath me causing knee pain. If I raise my chair then I'm sitting above my kb/m. This is most likely what is causing me to feel like I have too much friction when my palm is rested.
@The Meta
Question: Currently transitioning from wrist (20 years) to arm. Can I use my wrist as a pivot point (putting pressure on the pad) at times if doing small adjustments or just use forearms/arm joint as pivot point?
I've watched dozens of arm aim tutorial and they didn't mention if the wrist area can be use as a pivot point in micro adjustments on certain occasions. I asking because, using the wrist as pivot point makes it easier for me to aim in small adjustments especially in slow moving targets because I'm a wrist aimer all my life.
The only problem I've encountered using wrist in conjunction with my arm is the friction of the wrist creates if I want to adjust on bigger swipes or if the ranges is at it's limits.
Actively planting the wrist typically isn't advisable, but most aiming on an actual target is done with the wrist. The forearm is there to get your hand/wrist where it needs to be so it can aim at things.
Hello. I want to ask you how to do it right. When I use a palm grip, should the end of the palm (where the palm ends and the hand begins) rest on the playing surface? Or should this "hump" be in the air and not interfere with movement? Thanks in advance for your reply. I would also like to ask you to contact you on discord so that I can send a photo of what I'm trying to talk about
how has no one replied this till now
My understanding is that this should be on the surface with part of the under arm
Horizontal moves are ok but I am struggling with vertical movements when I place my arm to the desk. I am living in hot and high humidity enviroment so my arm sticks when I try to move vertically
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Can i put my elbow on the desk?
I dont know how to explain it but having more of your arm on the desk can make a super low precise sens feel a good bit faster than if you had less of your arm on the desk
How much pressure do you have on your arms?
Do you have very slight pressure and essentially drop your shoulder and let the arm droop when you are resting?
Or do you have the edge of the table as the highest pressure area and adjust the amount of wight you apply there?
Or do you have a fairly firm amount of contact across the entire forearm with slightly more towards the back?
Finally do you maintain medium level of contact at all times and completely change the possition of your arm when not aiming to rest it?
I hated having my arm on my mousepad I hate the friction and feeling of my arm being dragged across it. I fixed this by wearing a long sleeve soft shirt… this sounds weird but seriously my arm is able to move freely and slide across my mousepad just like my wrist does and it feels more natural than my arm digging into the desk. could help you if you aim similar to me !
Yep! There’s less resistance when you have fabric covering your arm. That’s why some people like to use arm sleeves. A long sleeve shirt does the job just fine, though.
I’m going to start aiming with my arm, I was a wrist (abuser) for 2 years it was because at the time I had a small $20 mice, so I only needed to use my wrist
I've never been able to get my chair to sit straight like that.
I've been through many gamer chairs and office chairs and they all lean back naturally.
i have only one problem , i cant move my hand freely like smooth and the other part is i can tmove up and down freely help me pls
when i arm aim am i supposed to rest my forearm on the table and try to aim or should i try to lift it up a bit to lower the friction then aim lifting it up a bit for more than 30 minutes causes forearm pain
BROOO FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MY PAIN anyways I've been trying to figure out how people move their arm vertically without arm friction yet their shoulders don't hurt😪
@@pablotherobloxadventurer4621 same bro
@@pablotherobloxadventurer4621 but because of the shoulder pain i have gotten used to just resting my forearm on the table sure it might give me a bit more friction but that's what I'm comfortable with so you can try it out for yourself to see if it works for you
@@pablotherobloxadventurer4621 I was a wrist aimer for 2 years and I did try switching to arm 1 year ago but it didn't work out for me because I didn't know how to place my arm while aiming but finally after a year I am now an arm aimer. but I still do sometimes use my wrist for micro-adjustments
@@pablotherobloxadventurer4621 hope this helps
my guy you're awesome
Thank you!
I find my mouse's position getting more and more far off the desk while I aim. This really confuses me.
Use Arm Sleeves as well to slide better over the mousepad
My arm sticks every time going up and down. there's stutters every time it sticks to my wood desk. Solution is a sleeve or long sleeve shirt.
Also if you have too much weight on the palms it sticks. Solution is a billiards glove with the fingers cut out.
I've been doing arm aiming wrong for years after switching I guess?????? I have been keeping my entire arm off the table(I'm sitting quite high up in order to do so) and only planting my wrist for precise movements. I am supposed to plant some portion of my arm? whether it be 30-100% as you said?
Hi i struggle aiming to the right my arm is like blocked
COOL TIP: a great way to stop wrist aiming is to not use 10cm/360!!! I understand that you might be cracked at fortnite, but you have a whole arm for a reason
My left shoulder (keyboard) is in so much pain when I try this. Does anyone know why? I've tried lowering my adjustable desk to compensate.
Ik about this type of arm aiming but what about the one where your arm is actually hovered over the desk a bit
I think most pro players use a combination of planted wrist, planted arm and hover arm aiming depending on the situation. wrist for micro adjustments, planted arm for the majority of flicking to what's infront of you in your cone of vision and hover arm for 180 turns.
Hovering the arm take a lot of effort and reduces control/stability. As Radizzle mentioned, hovering or lifting the arm would be fine for big movements but not when actually aiming at targets.
@@TheMeta I have a problem when hovering my arm I get shoulder pain overtime but I can do vertical movements easily, but if I don't hover it my shoulder would'nt hurt yet I can't do vertical movements properly, any tips that you have to fix this?
This is badass
do you have any scens suggestion to practice arm aiming in kovaaks?
Scenarios like pattargetswitch, ascended tracking v3 and mccoy 1v1 are a good place to start as they require you to aim at targets all over the place, while also requiring some precision once you target them.
@@TheMeta Ty!! will stay tuned to learn more from ur vids.
Check out Voltaic's fundemental routines and benchmarks
@@biancatechinc
Lower your sensitivity, keep your wrist still and only aim with the arm.
bruh i really hate my table like there is like a keyboard table under the actual table and monitor table above the middle table and i cant get my legs further cause of this damn last table where i mostly use it for adapters
I've waited years to find this video ❤
i broke my arm and am currently unable to move my wrist so hopefully this helps
I have a desk that doesnt really approach tilted monitor arrangement. Should I tilt my keyboard to make up for it?
what chair are you using mr kovaak?
help: this hurts when i aim with my arm and many times i find my self aiming with wrist
Would you always recommend having the stomach against the table? I tend to play with my stomach slightly off but was wondering if moving closer helps?
It depends on how much of your arm you want on the table, and the size of your stomach really.
woould this still work if a part of ur forearm was planted onto the mousepad and another part of ur forearm is planted on ur desk but not the mousepad?
why its so hard for me to do a arm flick when my wrist on is on the pad
im not even watching this for aiming advice, im watching it for ergonomics lmaoooo
i use my arm as a pivot like wrist with wider range. Is that fine?
0:18 tell that to hal please 🥰 guy aims like a dinosaur
*tried putting my chest close to the table
*moved arm
*hits monitor
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wtf i have i been holding my mouse wrong all these years and my wrists pain when i game for to long ty for the advice
I’m just switching from wrist aiming to arm aiming and my aim seems to be way worse
thanks
@kovvaks Im not sure if this is me or im just stupid but I watch all these videos and i think I have a pretty healthy mouse grip, forearm position and desk and chair higheth but i have recently started to feel very awkward at my desk feeling like i have no range of motion or control over my mouse which results in me moving my mouse pads over and over trying to feel comfortable and now i never am, so i was wondering if you could think of anything that could guide me to feeling comfortable again because all my kovvaks scores are going down :(
Sorry to hear that, I'm curious to know why there is no range of motion with the mouse. Sitting too high can definitely reduce the range of motion as your aim lifts up off the pad when aiming upwards. Or playing in a humid environment with no sleeve can make your arm stick to the mousepad.
@@TheMeta Thank you for the advice It probably is because of my chair height compared to my desk my feet barely touch the ground and sometimes my chair randomly lowers so it makes my position inconsistent and also I found that it is also a sort of mental block because when I start doing bad I start feeling uncomfortable and as the game goes on I get more and more uncomfortable to the point where I go crazy so it also might just be placebo effect
@@jodifer7123 have u fixed ur postioning etc?
When I arm aim I feel like I have my shoulders in the shrugging position slightly and it makes it very annoying to play, I've tried lowering my chair and then it'd worse, I've raised my chair then the arms hit, help
If the arms are hitting and removing them isn't an option you could look into an ergo seat cushion to prop you up higher.
@@TheMeta I decided to just use my arm rest for a shoulder anchor
this saved my sanity from being lost while playing valorant
If you swivel and anchor your arm movement with your elbow, how do you do vertical movement with low dpi?
You still move your arm, it's just the neutral posistion. After doing the required motion you can reset the arm position back to the anchor point.
@@Norwayscs that's what I've been doing as the common sense thing. It's taking time to adjust. Appreciate the answer to a silly question. Thank you chief.
what is your mouse pad? i want my mouse pad as big as that
hello, is it better to have the forearms on the table or on the armrests of the seat?
Definitely recommend having your forearm on the table.
What do you do if you sweat a lot and your arms wont slide?
buy some sleeves
Does it matter that only 50% of my arm is on the table instead of like 75%?
No that's totally fine.
Hey I don’t have a huge mouse pad any way I can get arm horizontal aim with recoil being as easy as arm/wrist ?
Try putting ur mousepad sideways.
Good routine for Valorant in kovaak?
Im my opinion, aim trainers aren’t necessarily the thing u need to get good in valorant, yes it will help but, it will be much better to use your perfect sens, map awareness and stuff like that if u do want to get better at just aim, crosshair placement, and map awareness do death match until ur arm breaks and u cry because of how annoying it is. But by the end of it u will seriously see improvement in aim, if u want to get better at abilities go into custom games and try stuff out and see if that helps or watch videos of pro players and see what they do. Hope this helps even though its late.
@@beeeman_ In the last month, I didn't find a good kovaak routine so I did a Deathmatch routine and watched pro matches, I was on diamond 3, I am currently on radiant, your advice is good, seriously
@@beeeman_ that is such terrible advice oh my goodness
You can put your arm on your arm on the table even with wrist aiming. They are not mutually exclusive...
my whole arms on the table which isnt a problem except the sweat kills it for me to move around
What chair is that ?
I place my forearm on I desk and still naturally twist my wrist to flick constantly... really frustrating dont know how to break this.
What's your sens? Maybe lower it
Thats exactly my problem lol i cant remove the sides of my chair so i cant get closer to my desk lol
The struggle
what if ur broke and cant affor a desk
Then you have bigger problems then improving your aim
my table dont have enough space for that
What type of desk is that
It's a 150cmx75cm tabletop from Ikea and a set of mechanized legs from ebay.
oh so that was my problem. My wrist stays exactly at the position that you warned bro. Thankue very much 🙏🙏🙏. I will stay careful and get some annihilation 😎😎😎.
You are most welcome! Happy annihilating :)
why does my shoulder feel like its cooking
Is this Optimum Tech guy?
Sounds just like him, right?
Bro i switched and mu
Y whole hand paining
My desk is a coffee table 😫
use wrist aiming
@@Paul-hl9nz don't it gives you carpal tunnel and possibly worse
I literally can't even look down fully on my mousepad. I have no idea how people can stand to play like this, it's unusable.
The claim of wrist aiming being suboptimal is misleading. It's really about personal preference. You can wrist aim with your forearm on the table just fine to the point about tendons is easily avoidable. The decision depends on a lot of factors such as whether you use a heavy or light mouse, how much space you have, what sensitivity or DPI you prefer, what feels more comfortable, what game your playing, and also if you care more about accuracy or reaction time. I personally use a heavier mouse on a hard pad with an edpi of 3200 for csgo and other fps titles and it works perfectly for me. If you need to make wide sweeping motions with accuracy(entry fragging, spray transfers, complex spray patterns) then you'll want to use your arm most likely. If your going to be performing smaller inputs and adjustments(holding angles, insanely fast flicks, and Awping) then wrist aiming will benefit you more. Of course nothing is a hard rule because its really more of what you're personally comfortable with but the majority of players on a competitive level(especially for fps) will use both types of aiming to maximize their advantages and minimize any drawbacks of only using one style. Also if you're playing something like fortnite or minecraft with a building mechanic, then arm aiming is your best bet. Overall tho, you should play around with different styles, dpi, sensitivity, weight, and pad surfaces to find what works for you. If you always follow what everyone else thinks is the best way to do something then you'll never know if YOU could do it better in a different way. You can't break the mold by copying what's popular.
Good guide for arm placement
Niceee! 🔥🔥
To have LESS ARM FRICTION on the desk, GRIP your mouse from a higher position, with more gap between the desk and your wrist
Best desk high im 6 feet long
This i 1too1 how i aim with 65cm/360...
Cool video
OMG! or just buy a "SAW" and make the 20cm by 60cm by 20cm "hole" in your desk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! desk without the hole is not ergonomic nor gaming.. it's a kitchen table!
and up 25cm your monitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the gods love
IS THAT OPTIMUM TECH? XD
Who plays with the mouse at the edge of the table, lmao
One of the best to ever play cs, heaton
Oldschool cs players. Nowdays you have XANTARES, KSCERATO (back in 2019), eliGe
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is this be busta