Dont forget Fawks a person so good that even after being tormented by both humans while he was a human and super mutants while he was a super mutant he still decides to do the right thing. Yea Markus is good but that only happens after he got severed from the Master, while FAWKS has been a good guy since day 1 and even saves you from the enclave base you cant tell me Fawks shouldnt be on this list over fallout 76 overseer like cmon she really just completed her vault experiment. Lets be honest id rather sacrifice myself than be a mutated super monster that get tormented endlessly by both human being and supermutants "both my kind" then proceed to tag along with the LONE WANDERER a complete psychopath on his insane quest battling the enclave over clean drinking water.
Im new to fallout so idk which ones are the canon choices/options but i don’t see why any protagonist will be a psychopath… it’s like GTA, in V there’s actually like only 5 missions where you have to wack someone but no one asks you to demolish pedestrians. So just like in GTA, fallout could work as a psychoanalysis of the player, if you’re mediocre the character isn’t mediocre you just made him like yourself.
@@TotallyNotKanye dude if you fight a advanced civilization with technology that makes you look like a caveman for the right to run a water purifier id say you would be a psychopath. Because clearly they would have a better understanding of how to use that vs you a dumb teenybopper with daddy issues.
@@TotallyNotKanye What? Trevor is a literal psychopath serial killer, Michael is a professional hitman and thief. You could argue Franklin isn't evil, but he's still pursuing money at the cost of everyone else. He is still incredibly greedy and narcissistic. There isn't a single way to go through GTA V by avoiding their crime or psychopathy. You have to understand driving through a city centre at 180MPH is psychotic and evil, regardless of how many people Franklin may not have shot in the face. Besides that, you have more than 5 missions where you have to kill people. There's dozens.
@@deletedaccount175 sorry bud i ain’t reading all dat. I only saw the everyone thing after the pursuing thing. Again, i don’t truly think you understand and you’re like no offense using a 8 year old thinking cause yeah they’re criminals but different… it’s like DD the ignorant will be against mules even but the thing is that that thing is not hurting people, people hurt themselves when they want with certain stuff they put in their own bodies it’s a choice, bank robbery etcetera for some people is ethical/morally correct just as stealing from corps imo it’s the working class hypocrisy and double morals. So… just about it for a sec
I think the entire gang of the Atom Cats should be included. They are particularly powerful with their Power Armor but instead of turning to raiding they help the common folk of the commonwealth like farmers.
Good video, I like that buddy bot fella. Though I disagree with the addition of Three Dog, first of all, he sends a 19 year old fresh out of the vault lone wanderer who's looking for his father to a super mutant infested area to retrieve his dish, which realistically he would have no way of surviving. If he was so morally good he probably would have just told the LW where his father went without sending him to a death trap. Secondly he reports on a story without knowing the full picture and slanders the LW's good name. On the mission "Tenpenny Tower", if you let the ghouls in, they will kill all the residents after 3 days or so. If you return to the tower and get revenge on them for murdering people (mostly Dashwood) Three Dog will go on his show and talk about how the LW is a prejudiced murderer... Three Dog is still pretty cool though, and I agree with your other points. But I still really enjoyed this video, I will subscribe and will be looking forward to any future videos you make.
Fallout 76 also brought us the only Pre-War politician that I would characterize as a good person: former Senator Sam Blackwell. He tried to be a whistleblower against Vault-Tec and the Enclave and actively fought against the automation of all jobs within his constituency. These two things ultimately led to his death.
Is it you robots? Maaan i love your job, i just started to listen your podcast on Spotify as i played fallout 4 on PS5, i just heard the first 8 episodes and came to UA-cam to find ya. I'm from México and im not so good at talking or writing english but i do understand and i already am a fan of your podcast and the way that you talk about the Lore of the Fallout games Looking forward to keep following your work ❤️👌
@@FalloutLorecast Idea if you haven't already. You could do like 5 minute lore dumps about certain things, make them a bit snazzy based around an ingame character. Like 'Lorecast Logs' or something, even detail a little bit that indicates where to find the cool thing. So instead of doing it like these episodes it would be like a scavenger leaving notes around about cool stuff they've found but couldn't get to. Or something as simple as uploading the lore dumps you've made as holotapes/radio station. Good way to get more eyes directly on your stuff when people are adding audio mods.
Man I was hoping Ares from fo76 was on this list, probably the best written character in the game if you go out of your way to piece together his story
Dogmeat is just the bestest boy who will always be there for you, never judge or criticize your actions! other companions you take with you just to get their perk, Dogmeat you take with you because he's such a good boy (though who on earth came up with his name, it's horrible! he deserves something much better!) As to the robots, it was best surmised by the mechanoid Kryten from the British series Red Dwarf, when asked by the Inquisitor to "justify" his existence, the conversation runs thusly INQUISITOR: But surely your life is replete with good works. There can be few individuals who have lived a more selfless life. KRYTEN: But I am programmed to live unselfishly. And therefore, any good works I do come not out of fine motives but as a result of a series of binary commands I am compelled to obey. INQUISITOR: Well then, how can any mechanical justify himself? KRYTEN: Perhaps only if he attempted to break his programming and conduct his life according to a set of values he arrived at independently. So if the 2 robots are just following their programming, which they seem to be, then that is not being "good" as they don't have a choice, only if they decide on their own, separate from whatever they were programmed to do can their actions be called "good"
You codsworths owner he's programmed to you yet will "walk away" after berthing you about how you've changed showing he can and does go beyond his programing at some point he's broken his programming and moved past it to free will
I have travelled with him very little, mainly helping the minutemen and doing things he likes to get his skill before packing him off to Graygarden and that's about it! Consequentially I've never experienced him doing anything like that so cannot comment. Regardless, it is difficult to judge if he is simply following values he has been programmed with or following his own morals? After all, in reality he is a character acting as he is programmed to act by the writers of the game and responding how he is programmed to respond, just like everyone else @@kentcreed3414
Besides, this is the world of Fallout, not reality (civilization has collapsed) so morality should not be overtly worshipped. You cannot eat or drink supreme moral high ground.
Being a good person can build trust and human connections, which has benefits in all situations. Like building relationships with others who can help provide food, safety, and other needs. The choice to set aside morality is always a gamble.
@@FalloutLorecast I have the same beliefs than you. However, there is a difference between how the world used to be before October 23, 2077 and how it is after that day. In the beginning of some video that describes the FROST mod, it is well said "we have all done unthinkable acts. Anyone who is still alive has done them". World after nuclear apocalypse is in some respects like a war zone. It is a brutal, sorry existence. Human can be a total animal under certain circumstances. We should be grateful to God we never saw a post-apocalyptic world in our lifetime.
@@FalloutLorecast Also, if we are too ambitious with trust and human connections, it eventually goes into politics. That then gets corrupted. That is not a sweet world either. It is a miracle New California Republic took place and they are not absolute good guys either though I would still choose to live under them than under Caesars Legion.
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Dont forget Fawks a person so good that even after being tormented by both humans while he was a human and super mutants while he was a super mutant he still decides to do the right thing. Yea Markus is good but that only happens after he got severed from the Master, while FAWKS has been a good guy since day 1 and even saves you from the enclave base you cant tell me Fawks shouldnt be on this list over fallout 76 overseer like cmon she really just completed her vault experiment. Lets be honest id rather sacrifice myself than be a mutated super monster that get tormented endlessly by both human being and supermutants "both my kind" then proceed to tag along with the LONE WANDERER a complete psychopath on his insane quest battling the enclave over clean drinking water.
Im new to fallout so idk which ones are the canon choices/options but i don’t see why any protagonist will be a psychopath… it’s like GTA, in V there’s actually like only 5 missions where you have to wack someone but no one asks you to demolish pedestrians. So just like in GTA, fallout could work as a psychoanalysis of the player, if you’re mediocre the character isn’t mediocre you just made him like yourself.
@@TotallyNotKanye dude if you fight a advanced civilization with technology that makes you look like a caveman for the right to run a water purifier id say you would be a psychopath. Because clearly they would have a better understanding of how to use that vs you a dumb teenybopper with daddy issues.
Uncle Leo and Fawkes
Don't forget Sentinel Lyons cuz she is ready to sacrifice herself if you don't do it in Fallout 3.
@@TotallyNotKanye What? Trevor is a literal psychopath serial killer, Michael is a professional hitman and thief. You could argue Franklin isn't evil, but he's still pursuing money at the cost of everyone else. He is still incredibly greedy and narcissistic. There isn't a single way to go through GTA V by avoiding their crime or psychopathy. You have to understand driving through a city centre at 180MPH is psychotic and evil, regardless of how many people Franklin may not have shot in the face.
Besides that, you have more than 5 missions where you have to kill people. There's dozens.
@@deletedaccount175 sorry bud i ain’t reading all dat. I only saw the everyone thing after the pursuing thing. Again, i don’t truly think you understand and you’re like no offense using a 8 year old thinking cause yeah they’re criminals but different… it’s like DD the ignorant will be against mules even but the thing is that that thing is not hurting people, people hurt themselves when they want with certain stuff they put in their own bodies it’s a choice, bank robbery etcetera for some people is ethical/morally correct just as stealing from corps imo it’s the working class hypocrisy and double morals. So… just about it for a sec
I think the entire gang of the Atom Cats should be included. They are particularly powerful with their Power Armor but instead of turning to raiding they help the common folk of the commonwealth like farmers.
They also do regular poetry nights, which is just adorable tbh.
Good video, I like that buddy bot fella.
Though I disagree with the addition of Three Dog, first of all, he sends a 19 year old fresh out of the vault lone wanderer who's looking for his father to a super mutant infested area to retrieve his dish, which realistically he would have no way of surviving. If he was so morally good he probably would have just told the LW where his father went without sending him to a death trap. Secondly he reports on a story without knowing the full picture and slanders the LW's good name. On the mission "Tenpenny Tower", if you let the ghouls in, they will kill all the residents after 3 days or so. If you return to the tower and get revenge on them for murdering people (mostly Dashwood) Three Dog will go on his show and talk about how the LW is a prejudiced murderer... Three Dog is still pretty cool though, and I agree with your other points.
But I still really enjoyed this video, I will subscribe and will be looking forward to any future videos you make.
Uncle leo left the chat
Fallout 76 also brought us the only Pre-War politician that I would characterize as a good person: former Senator Sam Blackwell. He tried to be a whistleblower against Vault-Tec and the Enclave and actively fought against the automation of all jobs within his constituency. These two things ultimately led to his death.
I was really hoping you'd bring up Doc Mitchell so,thanks for that.👍
Is it you robots? Maaan i love your job, i just started to listen your podcast on Spotify as i played fallout 4 on PS5, i just heard the first 8 episodes and came to UA-cam to find ya.
I'm from México and im not so good at talking or writing english but i do understand and i already am a fan of your podcast and the way that you talk about the Lore of the Fallout games
Looking forward to keep following your work ❤️👌
love your videos, i listen on spotify, i love listening to your podcast while playing fallout
Thanks, John. I appreciate the kind words. Have a wonderful new year!
@@FalloutLorecast Idea if you haven't already. You could do like 5 minute lore dumps about certain things, make them a bit snazzy based around an ingame character. Like 'Lorecast Logs' or something, even detail a little bit that indicates where to find the cool thing. So instead of doing it like these episodes it would be like a scavenger leaving notes around about cool stuff they've found but couldn't get to. Or something as simple as uploading the lore dumps you've made as holotapes/radio station. Good way to get more eyes directly on your stuff when people are adding audio mods.
Sunny smiles and Preston Garvey tied for number 1
at the start i can immediately see dogmeat, preston, codsworth, maccready, piper and more but i can remember the names
Great video but honestly very surprised you didn't include Nick Valentine. He really should have been there over Dogmeat.
Glad to see Mama Oversear getting some love. She really did her best to take care of us ❤
As far as Fallout 76 goes I would of included Abigayle Singh.
In before somebody nominates Fisto.
Man I was hoping Ares from fo76 was on this list, probably the best written character in the game if you go out of your way to piece together his story
The whole context of good and evil in Fallout 4 was written by someone who needed it explained to them on a white board.
lol, so true😂😂😂
we love you robots this is dice juggle you are the best
In reality, media workers rarely are good people....but this is Fallout.
No moira brown? Also three dog judges if you kill roy even after he and his ghoul buddies slaughter everyone in tenpenny tower
moira is too selfish
I think Marcus deserves to be there too
Moira brown is fallout 3 angel for a Truly "Good" Characters
She sends a Vault-Dweller who she knows has no caps or knowledge on potentially deadly missions she wouldn't take on her own.
I wish there was a Karma system in FO4, just like in FNV!
I like how you like making up words. 😁
Wait they went back to the PITT? ARE THERE TROGS? I FEEL LIKE NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THE FALLOUT 3 DLC OR KNOWS ABOUT IT AND IT MAKES ME CRAZY
Do you mean in 76? Yeah, there are expeditions to the Pitt and there are definitely Trogs.
Dogmeat is just the bestest boy who will always be there for you, never judge or criticize your actions! other companions you take with you just to get their perk, Dogmeat you take with you because he's such a good boy (though who on earth came up with his name, it's horrible! he deserves something much better!)
As to the robots, it was best surmised by the mechanoid Kryten from the British series Red Dwarf, when asked by the Inquisitor to "justify" his existence, the conversation runs thusly
INQUISITOR: But surely your life is replete with good works. There can be few individuals who have lived a more selfless life.
KRYTEN: But I am programmed to live unselfishly. And therefore, any good works I do come not out of fine motives but as a result of a series of binary commands I am compelled to obey.
INQUISITOR: Well then, how can any mechanical justify himself?
KRYTEN: Perhaps only if he attempted to break his programming and conduct
his life according to a set of values he arrived at independently.
So if the 2 robots are just following their programming, which they seem to be, then that is not being "good" as they don't have a choice, only if they decide on their own, separate from whatever they were programmed to do can their actions be called "good"
You codsworths owner he's programmed to you yet will "walk away" after berthing you about how you've changed showing he can and does go beyond his programing at some point he's broken his programming and moved past it to free will
I have travelled with him very little, mainly helping the minutemen and doing things he likes to get his skill before packing him off to Graygarden and that's about it! Consequentially I've never experienced him doing anything like that so cannot comment. Regardless, it is difficult to judge if he is simply following values he has been programmed with or following his own morals? After all, in reality he is a character acting as he is programmed to act by the writers of the game and responding how he is programmed to respond, just like everyone else @@kentcreed3414
I would call Lilly from NV a good character because she knows that Leo wants to hurt people so she choices to live a life in a cave.
As a dude who goes by TJ instead of my given name Thomas, or, Tom, I feel your pain, I very much dislike the name Tom, as someone with the same name.😅
TOMMY SUBMACHINE GUN! AGGHH
They didn’t include dog meat
😢
Preston is annoying. Minuteman was not an organisation by the time we meet him. He made you do a tonne of work without doing anything himself.
Thumbs down for not including any characters from Fallout 1 or 2. Harold, anyone? Marcus? Tandi?
Fallout 76...Paladin Rahimi.
Three Dog is the biggest hypocrite of the Bethesda fanfiction series!
Besides, this is the world of Fallout, not reality (civilization has collapsed) so morality should not be overtly worshipped. You cannot eat or drink supreme moral high ground.
Being a good person can build trust and human connections, which has benefits in all situations. Like building relationships with others who can help provide food, safety, and other needs. The choice to set aside morality is always a gamble.
@@FalloutLorecast I have the same beliefs than you. However, there is a difference between how the world used to be before October 23, 2077 and how it is after that day. In the beginning of some video that describes the FROST mod, it is well said "we have all done unthinkable acts. Anyone who is still alive has done them". World after nuclear apocalypse is in some respects like a war zone. It is a brutal, sorry existence. Human can be a total animal under certain circumstances. We should be grateful to God we never saw a post-apocalyptic world in our lifetime.
@@FalloutLorecast Also, if we are too ambitious with trust and human connections, it eventually goes into politics. That then gets corrupted. That is not a sweet world either. It is a miracle New California Republic took place and they are not absolute good guys either though I would still choose to live under them than under Caesars Legion.
It was a cool video but the robot character is really annoying and doesn't feel like it fits well, video probably would've been better without
My favorite thing to do with Arcade Gannon is to sell him into slavery to Caesar. I do it every play through lol.
Nate is not a good man anymore
there is no such thing as "truly good"
Yeah.. in Fallout only bad guys with varieties degrees of goodness. But I bet Preston Garvey is the 97% pure.