Robert House: Please just dont touch strip, and Ill leave you the f alone mostly, way more then NCR and Legion and BOS and Enclave etc atleast Most ppl for some reason: OMG HOUSE IS SO AUTHORITARIAN! !1!1!!!
NCR is really just the personification of "a jack of all trades, master of none, is often times better than a master of one", that's why i do say they're the best option so far. Like sure other factions can outclass them in the areas they're specializing; BoS has the technology, legion has the safe road, the followers have the ethics, but NCR is still "passable" in all areas while the others fail. Sure NCR have had hate crimes but those are also ILLEGAL CRIMES with mutants being legally protected citizens. Sure NCR has corruption but it also has a full legal system where even the Rich Elite have to keep their crimes hidden. Sure NCR are expansionist but they also have to have settlements agree to be annexed and places like Novac and Primm can chose to remain independent. Sure NCR care about it's people more, but they also opened up two refugee camps and were even trying to offer aid to Freeside as well. Sure NCR.....is actually pretty misleading tech-wise, like we mainly just seen them using quantity over quality equipment and scavenge tech in the Mojave but NCR actually have Vault City's medicine and implants, full industrial capabilities, the OSI doing scientific research, transportation like trains and Bear Force One, and even NCR city has a functioning post-war built power plant. But honestly the "R" in NCR is their biggest selling point because republics can change, like the whole "It's good for NCR to lose the Mojave so they can focus inwards" idea is built on that fact. sure the writers of the next game (or TV show) with NCR in it will determined if they change for the better or worst, but as long as the people are voting for their representatives in free elections the goverment will have to answer to them.
If someone could take over the institute, and make corrections for all the terrible policies and things they did in the past (No more replacing people with replicas, Treating Synths like people instead of robotic slaves, better public relations, using Synths to clean up the wasteland, etc) it could do a lot of good.
My problem with the minutemen is the same problem everyone else sees in them. They lack infrastructure and a proper chain of command. Ya they make a complete 180 in fo4 but thats because of you. Without some kind of backing and further enforcement from some form of a centralized government I feel like theyre doomed to repeat the same mistakes at some point or another after the sole survivor passes away. I actually always saw it this way ncr would be the main political body, brotherhood would be the bodies standing military, the minutemen would take the role of law enforcement and the institute would keep doing what theyre doing what for the betterment of humanity as a whole.
I disagree with putting Mr. House so low, especially since the Mr House ending has humanity back in space after 100 years, so I would put him somewhat higher, and I would put the Enclave lower because who’s to say that their virus wouldn’t kill everyone, as after living 200 years in a radioactive wasteland, would there still be anyone without DNA that hadn’t been mutated to some extent. Potentially exterminating humanity puts them lower on my list significantly. Other than those two, I pretty much agree with the takes on the rest of the factions.
Mr House and the Institute are High Key the best chance for humanity. Like by far the institute is controlled by a few leaders with one president, they can change their plans at any time
Also the Ncr wasnt there to stand up for the salt of the earth people unless those people benefited the NCR, typically in a financial manner. The minutemen are a little too blank a slate to say if they could work long-term becuase they have no clear identity or ideals that would set them apart from another organization but would easily be subsumed into another org. I play them as a communist mutual-aid network but someone else could do the exact same things i do but have the headcannon that they play a tyranical dictator as the General with no mechanical or dialogue differences between playthroughs
I disagree with your take on the Enclave, even if the modified FEV they planned to use in fallout 3 worked there is no guarantee at all that it would continue to only affect mutated DNA. In fact, it's much more likely with the continued radiation around that there would be those who resist it, and then become immune and pass on that immunity, perhaps even making it deadly to unmutated DNA, completely doing the opposite and killing off all 'pure' humans left. With how resilient some species are to radiation like ghouls or super mutants its more likely that some would survive and essentially become carriers to a super virus that could be even more deadly than FEV.
Good point, and that’s even assuming there are that many people left after 200 years in a radioactive wasteland to have unmutated DNA. The virus could end up killing everyone even if it didn’t mutate.
Just looking at Fallout 4, no matter which faction is in charge at the end? The Wasteland is still screwed I believe. The Brotherhood of Steel don't care for The Wasteland at all, that much is clear, Maxson is a megalomaniac, who will wipe out anything outside his incredibly narrow view of the world. Also as we have seen The Brotherhood for all their might an advantages, are highly prone to falling apart in the end. As in the faction in The Capitol Wasteland evidently did between 3, New Vegas and 4. Also their authoritarian mindset, as you said leads to revolution. As Ulysses said of Caesar's Legion,. that they'd eventually implode? I believe the brotherhood will eventually do exactly the same. much like The Enclave, The Brotherhood are just like the Raiders, The Legion, The Children of Atom, and even NCR. They are all just Raiders, with fancy titles. The BOS, like the factions I mentioned there all have one thing in common, fancy name for their group, and fancy titles within it. They all have a mind set they give out, and are all high restrictive on how you can act, think, believe, hell even who you can have relationships with. (Yes NCR does, play FNV, talk to the soldiers, NCR is Homophobic). NCR like the BOS also has a habit of running over people, annexing people, all that, just like the BOS, The Enclave and The Legion, they are all very similar. Now back to Fallout 4, The BOS, as I said, likely the worst faction to be in charge at the end of the game, if not for The Railroad, as you said, they care for Synths, for the most part, now this is discounting Deacon. Now Deacon is loyal to the cause, but he wants to help humans to, and Deacon is a rather sketchy character. If you ask me? If the Railroad were the ones in charge? Here is what I see happening, Deacon would start pushing to expand to helping humans right? Also I believe the Sole Survivor would back him up on it to, and Desdemona might be removed from leadership, likely putting Deacon in charge. I could see this playing out and The Railroad joining with The Minutemen to form a much larger group, that could in turn become the force to save The Commonwealth Wasteland and become the beacon that inspires other regions of the former America's to (Mind you this includes Canada) to step up and do the same. When it comes to The Minutemen on their own? As well meaning as they are, we have seen they they are prone to infighting, they are not well armoured or armed, though those muskets can pack a hell of a bunch, they are one of the weakest combat wise, but their strength is in the people. but The Minutemen and The Railroad under Deacon could be a hell of a faction for good in The Commonwealth. As for The Institute? just liker the BOS, they are tech focused, and use The Wasteland as a testing ground, put them in charge despite what Momma Murphy believes, they would become the next Big Mountain and The Commonwealth would be that much worse off for kit. As each faction is presented in the game, no matter which one is in charge at the end, The Commonwealth is screwed, totally screwed, Fallout 4 has the bleakest endings of any Fallout game to date. Fallout 4 under that BOS had hope, New Vegas under Robert House, had hope, albeit a cold one, but 4? 4 is bleak as can be as none of the four factions on their own can save that region, nor will they.
Agreed. Unless there was ANOTHER faction that could reach a middleground that is better organized, armed, and protected and willing to actually do good for The Commonwealth, it is pretty much flipped on it's stomach and taking it forcefully up brown town. The Commonwealth is doomed regardless who is in charge.
Then Enclave or Brotherhood. Same generation for security. Because the bulk of people would try to rule via feelings instead of facts like a more authoritarian rule would do for a good 5-10 years.
I think house is better than the institute though as he is actually able to do diplomacy with other factions meanwhile the institute runs a foul of every other faction in the commonwealth.
I usually side with the brotherhood just because they are militarized and a trained fighting force that has air power thats a combination of things you would need to control land or a society. The other factions simply are not strong enough, ig the enclave is but they seem more like nazis and sure the brotherhood does some questionable things but they genuinely want the best for the world I think. Like in Fallout 4 maxon seems to care about the Commonwealth and the institute is clearly the enemy in which they want to destroy.
I think this might actually be the worse analysis I've seen on fallout factions like he never talked to a single npc or explore any of the actual game lore the legion comparison to raiders and drug addicts and the brotherhood of steel comparison is the past west coast brotherhood of steel even under maxson they are still distributing clean water to the capital wasteland and after they defeat the institute they safeguard diamond city and run patrols and checkpoints you don't do that if you're just hoarding technology and leaving. The legion is rebuilding the roman empire their traders even remark how safe the roads are for travel in their territory they are building a society albeit a brutal one but still an active civilization not a raider gang.
The way I see the railroad is that after the institute is destroyed they either splinter apart or completely disband. Bad writing for FO4 factions aside I usually ally with the railroad simply because they are the least inclined to want to rule over people.
The NCR would not accept the Minuteman as they stand. By the time the NCR got to Boston, it would have been compleatly tamed by the Minutemen. It would be an independant nation. NCR would either make a "treaty", until they had enough forces in the area to make a go of it, or offer them statehood.
One thing that always erks me in fallout communities is when people say democracy failed in the fallout world. It didn't, because don't forget not only was America at war with a communist authoritarian dictatorship which as at very least 50% of the blame, but the American government wasn't really even a democracy anymore and had secret rulers in the enclave. If anything it was the more that America and other countries went away from democracy that the world blew up
The problem with the Brotherhood if you want to see humanity as a whole progress is that they just keep all the shiny gizmos so the shiny gizmo cannot be used against them, and then the brotherhood will "negotiate" the terms of their continued living with that gizmo they just stole.
They do share tech, even back in Fallout 1 the canon ending has them sharing tech with the towns. There's no evidence of them stealing either, that's a misconception that comes from New Vegas, but if you do Cass's quests you find out the Brotherhood are innocent and were framed by the Van Graffs.
@@PrettyTigerlilly they're the brotherhood. people with big guns dont ask for permissions. it is canon in fallout 4 that they stole rivet city's energy core to power prydwen, they returned to the old ways of the former brotherhood while hip-hip-hooray fellows like danse still seem to think its about saving people. they might even believe in the mission, but they are ready to do terrible things for that. the brotherhood basically shoots one class of people a little less and that's why they are better than the enclave.
@@JHenryEden Chris Avellone recently had to come out and explain to people that the Brotherhood was never written as the bad guys after the tv show came out, because the writers understood people would look up to the faction. He also said he doesn't recognize the Brotherhood as it was portrayed in the show. I can't link it here, but it's in his blog on Medium, you can read his 2 part review and his comments about the faction there. Side note about the power supply on the Prydwen, it was not taken from Rivet City, it was taken from the wreckage of the mobile Enclave crawler.
So... your argument about Railroad getting an "F" because the synths could be dangerous, quite literally applies your "A" tier factions as well, as the only reason this conversation exists is because humans are dangerous, so much so they nuked the world, despite knowing full well what the consequences would be. I get why people make the argument, but I bought into the idea of "we can't let synths go free, what if one of them becomes a raider/look one became a raider", when you know, 99.99% of all the other raiders are human. Basically, they're sentient beings, which means they'll do anything any other sentient being would do, good or bad, now throw in their low numbers, inability to procreate and being as easy as to kill as regular people and they're actually less of a threat IMO.
Okay but the fact they put their own lives above humans is a problem because, they are repairable and rebuildable, the railroad is only worried about synths, not rebuilding society or anything of the sort
Considering the railroad only cares about synths and first thing after you help them is kill the institute and the brotherhood. One of them with a nuke? Not to mention any synth that stays loyal to the institute is automatically killed along with any humans that helped them? Yea. They are bottom tier
The Institute (Dad) stated that they could not save the people of the wastelands because they all had genetic damage, and therefore, their "codes" were corrupted.
That's an interesting thought. Though in fallout universe wastelanders are still able to produce children that don't look like brahmins. Who knows, maybe if Fate is kind and they get lucky with Genetic Lottery, wastelanders would evolve and adapt to harsh environments to the point of prosperty, proving Father wrong once more. Ah, if only FO4 had better writing so that we actually could debate with Shaun like you could in Obsidian games with Master or Ulysses... Well, guess there is a reason why most player always go Taras Bulba on Father every playthrough...
Mr house and the Institute are by far the best hope for humanity. Institute may seem bad but synths are really a tool even if they are sentient. Rebuildable and repairable makes them more expendable then humans.
The Institute killed off The head of a family and replaced him with a synth so they could use him and his family as free labor to test how to grow their giant pumpkins. They are not all that separate from the FEV enclave in regards to how they treat people.
Caesar should be much higher. I think your understanding of him as a mere brute or warlord that we would see in places like Congo, is not really accurate. A major reason for why Caesar is following his path of aggressive expansion is not due to him wanting more territory, but to produce something entirely new out of the Legion. Legion for him is like a milestone or more like a foundation which, with the proper molding can be made into something that is worthy of sovereign dominion over the Wasteland. I think this fact alone puts him at the top of the picks for Mojave. Also, a fair point regarding the NCR should be attributed to Mr. House -- "if you want to see the fate of democracies -- look outside the window". It is an inevitability that democracies crumble and fall -- let alone in a setting like the Fallout universe.
The Enclave is getting way to much love.IMO. How can the arguments used against the Institute and Mr.House not apply to them as well.? Also a ideology based on the primary premise of "general purity" history tells us hasnt faired too well. The elephant in the room is ,by all manner of metrics, the Enclave is by all measures the identity of National Socialism.
Raiders could save humanity, evetually rebuild civilization on their own, In real life Vikings and Germanic raiders went from That to Kings and Queens. Normans were Germanic Raiders at first, Saxons, basically all European royalty.
the enclave is literally a fascist military junta in every l0re interpretati0n we kn0w that mutants can reas0n and have lives they are sentient and we als0 kn0w that the enclave views any0ne t0uched by the radiati0n 0f the wastes as a "mutie" which means gene0cide 0n a mass scale 0f m0st tribal and n0rmal wastelander p0pulati0ns this isnt a win f0r humanity when m0st 0f the humanity is being destr0yed and then there is the "spirit" 0f humanity being crushed under a dictat0rial b00t they are just wr0ng and sh0uld be resisted 0n s0 many gr0unds (even th0ugh i d0 like bad guys a l0t 0f times and the enclave always reminded me 0f the empire fr0m star wars which is kinda c00l aesthetically l0l)
the br0therh00d is als0 a military junta just n0t s0 fascisty as the 0ther 0ne (even th0ugh h0use calls them techn0fascist knightly larpers) the br0therh00d is flawed fr0m the 0utset they have a p0int 0f view built 0ut 0f their ancient f0unders views 0f techn0l0gy he was a s0ldier n0t a scientist and s0 he decided f0r the entire br0therh00d that s0ldiers sh0uld have the final say in the devel0pment and use 0f techn0l0gy s0 that "it d0esnt get misused" this is why paladins are always in leadership p0siti0ns and new elders are ch0sen 0ut 0f that st0ck n0t 0ut 0f the st0ck 0f scribes (f0r the m0st part) this means that they are n0t actually that interested in the tech and devel0pment 0f new tech as much as just the military c0ntr0l 0f said techn0l0gy they get misinterpreted as techn0l0gy l0vers when in fact they are luddites essentially i agree m0stly with what y0u said th0ugh they d0nt have much t0 0ffer t0 the wasteland and pr0vide us with a pr0blematic ide0l0gy f0r pr0gress in the f0rm 0f their c0ntr0lling and aggressive nature t0wards th0se with "t00 much techn0l0gy" which basically w0uld be any p0wer wh0 is bringing civilizati0n back t0 the wasteland
Robert House: Please just dont touch strip, and Ill leave you the f alone mostly, way more then NCR and Legion and BOS and Enclave etc atleast
Most ppl for some reason: OMG HOUSE IS SO AUTHORITARIAN! !1!1!!!
He prefers the term “Autocrat”… ;)
NCR is really just the personification of "a jack of all trades, master of none, is often times better than a master of one", that's why i do say they're the best option so far. Like sure other factions can outclass them in the areas they're specializing; BoS has the technology, legion has the safe road, the followers have the ethics, but NCR is still "passable" in all areas while the others fail.
Sure NCR have had hate crimes but those are also ILLEGAL CRIMES with mutants being legally protected citizens.
Sure NCR has corruption but it also has a full legal system where even the Rich Elite have to keep their crimes hidden.
Sure NCR are expansionist but they also have to have settlements agree to be annexed and places like Novac and Primm can chose to remain independent.
Sure NCR care about it's people more, but they also opened up two refugee camps and were even trying to offer aid to Freeside as well.
Sure NCR.....is actually pretty misleading tech-wise, like we mainly just seen them using quantity over quality equipment and scavenge tech in the Mojave but NCR actually have Vault City's medicine and implants, full industrial capabilities, the OSI doing scientific research, transportation like trains and Bear Force One, and even NCR city has a functioning post-war built power plant.
But honestly the "R" in NCR is their biggest selling point because republics can change, like the whole "It's good for NCR to lose the Mojave so they can focus inwards" idea is built on that fact. sure the writers of the next game (or TV show) with NCR in it will determined if they change for the better or worst, but as long as the people are voting for their representatives in free elections the goverment will have to answer to them.
NCR is dead. In my opinion I think he over underestimates the stability of monarchical states and empires.
If someone could take over the institute, and make corrections for all the terrible policies and things they did in the past (No more replacing people with replicas, Treating Synths like people instead of robotic slaves, better public relations, using Synths to clean up the wasteland, etc) it could do a lot of good.
Synths are machines why not putting them to clean up the wasteland they don't get tired. They aren't slaves
I never played fallout 2, but I believe the followers of the apocalypse were previously very integrated into the NCR.
My problem with the minutemen is the same problem everyone else sees in them. They lack infrastructure and a proper chain of command. Ya they make a complete 180 in fo4 but thats because of you. Without some kind of backing and further enforcement from some form of a centralized government I feel like theyre doomed to repeat the same mistakes at some point or another after the sole survivor passes away. I actually always saw it this way ncr would be the main political body, brotherhood would be the bodies standing military, the minutemen would take the role of law enforcement and the institute would keep doing what theyre doing what for the betterment of humanity as a whole.
Im going with the Enclave.
Something tells me it was pre-war Enclave throw the first bomb. It also encourages all the corporations involved to do all those unspeakable horrors.
God bless the Enclave!
I’m curious how Elder Maxson maintains his awesome fade WITH a hard part
There is a cancer deep within the Commonwealth. It’s known as male pattern baldness and shitty barbers.
could the smart death claws could have save humanity by replacing humanity as the species at the dominant species?
I disagree with putting Mr. House so low, especially since the Mr House ending has humanity back in space after 100 years, so I would put him somewhat higher, and I would put the Enclave lower because who’s to say that their virus wouldn’t kill everyone, as after living 200 years in a radioactive wasteland, would there still be anyone without DNA that hadn’t been mutated to some extent. Potentially exterminating humanity puts them lower on my list significantly. Other than those two, I pretty much agree with the takes on the rest of the factions.
Mr House and the Institute are High Key the best chance for humanity.
Like by far the institute is controlled by a few leaders with one president, they can change their plans at any time
If you're going to take the Enclave into serious consideration, you also need to take the Master's plan into consideration as well.
That would be an instant F tier though
"This carpet is a person with feelings." - Rachel Zegler
Also the Ncr wasnt there to stand up for the salt of the earth people unless those people benefited the NCR, typically in a financial manner.
The minutemen are a little too blank a slate to say if they could work long-term becuase they have no clear identity or ideals that would set them apart from another organization but would easily be subsumed into another org.
I play them as a communist mutual-aid network but someone else could do the exact same things i do but have the headcannon that they play a tyranical dictator as the General with no mechanical or dialogue differences between playthroughs
I disagree with your take on the Enclave, even if the modified FEV they planned to use in fallout 3 worked there is no guarantee at all that it would continue to only affect mutated DNA. In fact, it's much more likely with the continued radiation around that there would be those who resist it, and then become immune and pass on that immunity, perhaps even making it deadly to unmutated DNA, completely doing the opposite and killing off all 'pure' humans left.
With how resilient some species are to radiation like ghouls or super mutants its more likely that some would survive and essentially become carriers to a super virus that could be even more deadly than FEV.
Good point, and that’s even assuming there are that many people left after 200 years in a radioactive wasteland to have unmutated DNA. The virus could end up killing everyone even if it didn’t mutate.
Modus has a cure all for mutations though
Just looking at Fallout 4, no matter which faction is in charge at the end? The Wasteland is still screwed I believe. The Brotherhood of Steel don't care for The Wasteland at all, that much is clear, Maxson is a megalomaniac, who will wipe out anything outside his incredibly narrow view of the world. Also as we have seen The Brotherhood for all their might an advantages, are highly prone to falling apart in the end.
As in the faction in The Capitol Wasteland evidently did between 3, New Vegas and 4. Also their authoritarian mindset, as you said leads to revolution. As Ulysses said of Caesar's Legion,. that they'd eventually implode? I believe the brotherhood will eventually do exactly the same. much like The Enclave, The Brotherhood are just like the Raiders, The Legion, The Children of Atom, and even NCR. They are all just Raiders, with fancy titles. The BOS, like the factions I mentioned there all have one thing in common, fancy name for their group, and fancy titles within it. They all have a mind set they give out, and are all high restrictive on how you can act, think, believe, hell even who you can have relationships with. (Yes NCR does, play FNV, talk to the soldiers, NCR is Homophobic). NCR like the BOS also has a habit of running over people, annexing people, all that, just like the BOS, The Enclave and The Legion, they are all very similar.
Now back to Fallout 4, The BOS, as I said, likely the worst faction to be in charge at the end of the game, if not for The Railroad, as you said, they care for Synths, for the most part, now this is discounting Deacon. Now Deacon is loyal to the cause, but he wants to help humans to, and Deacon is a rather sketchy character. If you ask me? If the Railroad were the ones in charge? Here is what I see happening, Deacon would start pushing to expand to helping humans right? Also I believe the Sole Survivor would back him up on it to, and Desdemona might be removed from leadership, likely putting Deacon in charge. I could see this playing out and The Railroad joining with The Minutemen to form a much larger group, that could in turn become the force to save The Commonwealth Wasteland and become the beacon that inspires other regions of the former America's to (Mind you this includes Canada) to step up and do the same. When it comes to The Minutemen on their own? As well meaning as they are, we have seen they they are prone to infighting, they are not well armoured or armed, though those muskets can pack a hell of a bunch, they are one of the weakest combat wise, but their strength is in the people. but The Minutemen and The Railroad under Deacon could be a hell of a faction for good in The Commonwealth. As for The Institute? just liker the BOS, they are tech focused, and use The Wasteland as a testing ground, put them in charge despite what Momma Murphy believes, they would become the next Big Mountain and The Commonwealth would be that much worse off for kit. As each faction is presented in the game, no matter which one is in charge at the end, The Commonwealth is screwed, totally screwed, Fallout 4 has the bleakest endings of any Fallout game to date. Fallout 4 under that BOS had hope, New Vegas under Robert House, had hope, albeit a cold one, but 4? 4 is bleak as can be as none of the four factions on their own can save that region, nor will they.
Agreed. Unless there was ANOTHER faction that could reach a middleground that is better organized, armed, and protected and willing to actually do good for The Commonwealth, it is pretty much flipped on it's stomach and taking it forcefully up brown town. The Commonwealth is doomed regardless who is in charge.
@@jawllypop1750 Yep, pretty much, minutemen are the best option, but they have fallen apart before, nothing to say they won't again.
@@jawllypop1750 Mmhmm pretty much.
Then Enclave or Brotherhood. Same generation for security. Because the bulk of people would try to rule via feelings instead of facts like a more authoritarian rule would do for a good 5-10 years.
I think house is better than the institute though as he is actually able to do diplomacy with other factions meanwhile the institute runs a foul of every other faction in the commonwealth.
...No Unity?
I know their goal was replacing humanity, but it'd be fun to see you unpack that.
I usually side with the brotherhood just because they are militarized and a trained fighting force that has air power thats a combination of things you would need to control land or a society. The other factions simply are not strong enough, ig the enclave is but they seem more like nazis and sure the brotherhood does some questionable things but they genuinely want the best for the world I think. Like in Fallout 4 maxon seems to care about the Commonwealth and the institute is clearly the enemy in which they want to destroy.
Great analysis!
I think this might actually be the worse analysis I've seen on fallout factions like he never talked to a single npc or explore any of the actual game lore the legion comparison to raiders and drug addicts and the brotherhood of steel comparison is the past west coast brotherhood of steel even under maxson they are still distributing clean water to the capital wasteland and after they defeat the institute they safeguard diamond city and run patrols and checkpoints you don't do that if you're just hoarding technology and leaving. The legion is rebuilding the roman empire their traders even remark how safe the roads are for travel in their territory they are building a society albeit a brutal one but still an active civilization not a raider gang.
I wish you included the Master's Unity, good vid though 🙏
The way I see the railroad is that after the institute is destroyed they either splinter apart or completely disband.
Bad writing for FO4 factions aside I usually ally with the railroad simply because they are the least inclined to want to rule over people.
The Enclave of Steel
Modus has a mutarion CURE!!!
AND HANDS OUT BENIFICIAL MUTATUONS!!
The NCR would not accept the Minuteman as they stand. By the time the NCR got to Boston, it would have been compleatly tamed by the Minutemen. It would be an independant nation. NCR would either make a "treaty", until they had enough forces in the area to make a go of it, or offer them statehood.
What mod do you use for the trees and grass
What mods were you using at the time in the video that is playing? A mod and settings list would be great?
What about the children of Atom
One thing that always erks me in fallout communities is when people say democracy failed in the fallout world. It didn't, because don't forget not only was America at war with a communist authoritarian dictatorship which as at very least 50% of the blame, but the American government wasn't really even a democracy anymore and had secret rulers in the enclave. If anything it was the more that America and other countries went away from democracy that the world blew up
The problem with the Brotherhood if you want to see humanity as a whole progress is that they just keep all the shiny gizmos so the shiny gizmo cannot be used against them, and then the brotherhood will "negotiate" the terms of their continued living with that gizmo they just stole.
They do share tech, even back in Fallout 1 the canon ending has them sharing tech with the towns. There's no evidence of them stealing either, that's a misconception that comes from New Vegas, but if you do Cass's quests you find out the Brotherhood are innocent and were framed by the Van Graffs.
@@PrettyTigerlilly they're the brotherhood.
people with big guns dont ask for permissions.
it is canon in fallout 4 that they stole rivet city's energy core to power prydwen, they returned to the old ways of the former brotherhood while hip-hip-hooray fellows like danse still seem to think its about saving people.
they might even believe in the mission, but they are ready to do terrible things for that.
the brotherhood basically shoots one class of people a little less and that's why they are better than the enclave.
@@JHenryEden Chris Avellone recently had to come out and explain to people that the Brotherhood was never written as the bad guys after the tv show came out, because the writers understood people would look up to the faction. He also said he doesn't recognize the Brotherhood as it was portrayed in the show. I can't link it here, but it's in his blog on Medium, you can read his 2 part review and his comments about the faction there. Side note about the power supply on the Prydwen, it was not taken from Rivet City, it was taken from the wreckage of the mobile Enclave crawler.
@@PrettyTigerlilly then chris avellone wrote them bad.
So... your argument about Railroad getting an "F" because the synths could be dangerous, quite literally applies your "A" tier factions as well, as the only reason this conversation exists is because humans are dangerous, so much so they nuked the world, despite knowing full well what the consequences would be. I get why people make the argument, but I bought into the idea of "we can't let synths go free, what if one of them becomes a raider/look one became a raider", when you know, 99.99% of all the other raiders are human. Basically, they're sentient beings, which means they'll do anything any other sentient being would do, good or bad, now throw in their low numbers, inability to procreate and being as easy as to kill as regular people and they're actually less of a threat IMO.
Okay but the fact they put their own lives above humans is a problem because, they are repairable and rebuildable, the railroad is only worried about synths, not rebuilding society or anything of the sort
Considering the railroad only cares about synths and first thing after you help them is kill the institute and the brotherhood. One of them with a nuke? Not to mention any synth that stays loyal to the institute is automatically killed along with any humans that helped them? Yea. They are bottom tier
Can you use a recall code on a human?
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Curie isnt dangerous, she spends her every waking minute trying to come up with something to help the human race.
The Institute (Dad) stated that they could not save the people of the wastelands because they all had genetic damage, and therefore, their "codes" were corrupted.
That's an interesting thought. Though in fallout universe wastelanders are still able to produce children that don't look like brahmins. Who knows, maybe if Fate is kind and they get lucky with Genetic Lottery, wastelanders would evolve and adapt to harsh environments to the point of prosperty, proving Father wrong once more.
Ah, if only FO4 had better writing so that we actually could debate with Shaun like you could in Obsidian games with Master or Ulysses... Well, guess there is a reason why most player always go Taras Bulba on Father every playthrough...
Mr house and the Institute are by far the best hope for humanity.
Institute may seem bad but synths are really a tool even if they are sentient.
Rebuildable and repairable makes them more expendable then humans.
Mr House yes but Institute not sure
The Institute killed off The head of a family and replaced him with a synth so they could use him and his family as free labor to test how to grow their giant pumpkins. They are not all that separate from the FEV enclave in regards to how they treat people.
You all wrong children of atom is the only good faction in the whole fallour universe
Caesar should be much higher.
I think your understanding of him as a mere brute or warlord that we would see in places like Congo, is not really accurate.
A major reason for why Caesar is following his path of aggressive expansion is not due to him wanting more territory, but to produce something entirely new out of the Legion. Legion for him is like a milestone or more like a foundation which, with the proper molding can be made into something that is worthy of sovereign dominion over the Wasteland. I think this fact alone puts him at the top of the picks for Mojave.
Also, a fair point regarding the NCR should be attributed to Mr. House -- "if you want to see the fate of democracies -- look outside the window". It is an inevitability that democracies crumble and fall -- let alone in a setting like the Fallout universe.
The Enclave is getting way to much love.IMO. How can the arguments used against the Institute and Mr.House not apply to them as well.? Also a ideology based on the primary premise of "general purity" history tells us hasnt faired too well.
The elephant in the room is ,by all manner of metrics, the Enclave is by all measures the identity of National Socialism.
Raiders could save humanity, evetually rebuild civilization on their own,
In real life Vikings and Germanic raiders went from That to Kings and Queens.
Normans were Germanic Raiders at first,
Saxons, basically all European royalty.
Enclave!!!
Enclave
gameplay footage was recorded at 980 x 2880 ? lol
That would be vertical. It's an ultrawide at 3440x1440 scaled to fit 1920x1080 since youtubes end screen options don't work at that resolution.
as s0me0ne wh0 wishes f0r s0ciety t0 stay dead an the wasteland stay free this is just a hit list
the enclave is literally a fascist military junta in every l0re interpretati0n
we kn0w that mutants can reas0n and have lives they are sentient and we als0 kn0w that the enclave views any0ne t0uched by the radiati0n 0f the wastes as a "mutie" which means gene0cide 0n a mass scale 0f m0st tribal and n0rmal wastelander p0pulati0ns
this isnt a win f0r humanity when m0st 0f the humanity is being destr0yed and then there is the "spirit" 0f humanity being crushed under a dictat0rial b00t
they are just wr0ng and sh0uld be resisted 0n s0 many gr0unds (even th0ugh i d0 like bad guys a l0t 0f times and the enclave always reminded me 0f the empire fr0m star wars which is kinda c00l aesthetically l0l)
the br0therh00d is als0 a military junta just n0t s0 fascisty as the 0ther 0ne (even th0ugh h0use calls them techn0fascist knightly larpers)
the br0therh00d is flawed fr0m the 0utset they have a p0int 0f view built 0ut 0f their ancient f0unders views 0f techn0l0gy
he was a s0ldier n0t a scientist and s0 he decided f0r the entire br0therh00d that s0ldiers sh0uld have the final say in the devel0pment and use 0f techn0l0gy s0 that "it d0esnt get misused" this is why paladins are always in leadership p0siti0ns and new elders are ch0sen 0ut 0f that st0ck n0t 0ut 0f the st0ck 0f scribes (f0r the m0st part)
this means that they are n0t actually that interested in the tech and devel0pment 0f new tech as much as just the military c0ntr0l 0f said techn0l0gy
they get misinterpreted as techn0l0gy l0vers when in fact they are luddites essentially
i agree m0stly with what y0u said th0ugh they d0nt have much t0 0ffer t0 the wasteland and pr0vide us with a pr0blematic ide0l0gy f0r pr0gress in the f0rm 0f their c0ntr0lling and aggressive nature t0wards th0se with "t00 much techn0l0gy" which basically w0uld be any p0wer wh0 is bringing civilizati0n back t0 the wasteland
New faction unlocked: lunatic
@@JustT0N3 :D i h0wl at the m00n and all civcucks c0wer at the dirge
@@JustT0N3 new ideology : Fuckin YeeHAAAAAW