@@pheebs818the defense are the only ones seeking the truth because they are poking holes in the absurd way the CW is trying to make us believe is the way John died. Even their accident reconstruction expert was absurd.
That's what happens when peoples' minds refuse to use common sense and compassion. It also seems to be irrelevant that Karen chose to walk into a relationship with a man with children, which she knew she didn't want. That move alone made him a victim.... especially telling another man " you're hot"....she never had children which is a blessing since it's such a burden to be a mature responsible person concerned about the welfare of two kids while drinking and fighting on a regular basis. She should have never entered back into his life. He may still be here continuing to father those kids.
I only found out yesterday, that the Judge was asked to recuse herself by the Defence owing to her personal knowledge of many of the persons involved in this case. And she refused! How does that work? Was the reason not valid for the Defence/s Request? Was her reason to stay on the case, more valid? If a judge can refuse, what is the actual point of being able to ask? Its like a show.
A house full of first responders and police officers have a ton of police cars, ambulances, fire rescue and officers in the front yard for hours and don't go outside? As if!
@@thomasgirty6397 LE did not enter the home, but what about the possibility of more dead ppl inside or in any kind of danger at all. Exigent circumstances 101. But I guess the bully that owned the home and his clique of wrongdoers, was busy on that burner phone that he uses for other nefarious purposes, giving instructions and covering up from the get go!
Based on this, you can murder someone (not saying the Alberts did it) and leave their body on your lawn because a dead body on a lawn does not constitute probable cause for a search because it creates a perfect grey area situation. You wont even get a knock for questioning under reasonable suspicion. Even if that person was confirmed to be heading into that house (which the officers knew on arrival as confirmed by Gallagher and Lank). This case is setting a dangerous precedent for police procedure being ignored and people genuinely think its okay and are ready to send a woman to prison for murder over it.
You know Canton police called the FBI to investigate this because the body was on a policeman's yard? Don't forget that little detail. The FBI turned it down because they didn't consider John dead. Seems like something one would do when they are planning a framing coverup 😂😂
And nobody in that neibour hood with caméras rolling. I guess that fortified hôod of cop land felt un this day and âge the dont need caméras on that street
It was dark out and nobody looks on front lawns at night. Plus the snow had started and made the body look like a tiny mound that would blend into the rest of the white lawn.
@@phil1517 he was waaaaayyyyyy over to the right at the edge of the property ontop of the grass with a burm behind him. there was no expectation, he never went in, etc etc etc etc. why is that so hard for people to understand in the dark with anticipated blizzard?
This judge is probably the worst judge I have ever listened to. She is not only sounding annoyed, she seems biased in tone when she deal with one side vs the other.
Rest in peace to John O'Keefe. I find it hard to believe anybody in that house was asleep and were oblivious to a dead body in their front lawn, didn't hear any commotion, no thud, no car door, nothing...I do not believe them whatsoever.
Your bedroom windows facing the street. How do you not hear sirens, see emergency lights. Not go outside to see what the commotion is all about. Total BS!! All you guys stories don’t add up
Seems they claimed to be asleep even with all the LE presence and other emergency vehicles parked outside their home and even with so many people coming and going and with neighbours all around!
Why would Brian Higgins be called and asked to come over that morning after the cops left? Why? He wasn’t a good friend, he had never even been in the house before this night. The only reason he was there and John and Karen were asked to go there was that Jen McCabe and others were going to gang up her about texting Higgins because of the niece and John and that scene in Aruba.
Between the play fighting and the suggestion of an aggressive German Shephard which they re-homed shortly after the death... i will be shocked if 12 strangers strongly believe Karen MURDERED her boyfriend with her car 🤦
and the video SHOWING the tail lite getting cracked, NOT BROKEN in her driveway. AFTER she was to have hit him. video is plain that nethier tail lite is broken.
@@thomasgirty6397 I think her appearing on the scene and uttering "I hit him?" provided an absolutely delightful scapegoat for this whole terrible incident, and then the snowball rolled down the hill. I think they were betting on the snowplow before Karen turned up. He could have been the one on trial here, and even then, it would have been tried as an accident, there is something further afoot here, something underlying and personal why she was used immediately, why she was set up and over charged. I hope we find out at some point cuz. after watching trials, you sorta grow close to a person!!
The police chief has one across the road but apparently checked it and there wasn't anything to see there?? A neighborhood full of police but no cameras and unlocked doors? Pretty sure when people "burst" into people's bedroom early in the morning wouldn't a normal American reach for their gun or wouldn't the dog be going berserk? So many lies here
@@diana57799”Allegedly” there are no cameras. Are you implying they’re all there to protect each other, so no cameras are necessary? Do you find it believable the Alberts never locked their front door?
@@Grammichal im being sarcastic you know. Soo many missing blanks, different testimonies, cut surveillances , change basement floors , got rid of the dog in Vermont, and sold house less then 50k it was worth. Soo you tell me that doesn't sound sketchy and framed.
@@Grammichal and destroyed all they're phones. And the clothes that read husband had on that night is in evidence that they didn't wanted to show In court.
@@MsPerrysauceYes! Obviously he KNEW phones are very useful in investigations. Why didn’t he keep his phone? If he “wished” LE came in his home to investigate WHY DIDN’T HE INSIST?
You should consider that all of these witnesses would have to be ok with sending an innocent lady to prison for the rest of her life, if you believe she was framed. I just can’t accept that. One of these women would have have cracked and told the truth before the trial. There isn’t a single text message between any of them showing they disliked Karen prior to the incident.
Her husband said him and Brian Higgins went upstairs to look at photos, she says they were in the family room downstairs. She also stated that her kids would "always" come in and kiss her goodnight when they came home late, but her husband said the son just popped his head round the door. Their testimonies disagree about a lot, except the times. They seem to remember exactly when and where everyone was at any given time. Sus.
@@81suze unless it’s your house, your kids, and your responsibility. Then, trust me, you’d definitely pay attention. Unless of course you’re a POS parent and adult
To my mind and to what is the norm, grown offspring do NOT seek their parents out for a good night kiss, that is for little kids and IF they did that, then they seem abnormal to me!!!
There are 3 key but simple points that should have been raised even before this trial:- 1. Did they in fact have contact with any Realtor to sell their home, prior to this death? 2. What efforts have been made to access/hide the dog in question? 3. Was there any underlying motive for any person present that night to want to hurt John to the point of a brutal fight breaking out to cause death? Without these 3 answers, everything else seems to be a walk in the dark!
Brian & Colin & Higgins brought John to basement.John reported Colin for dealing drugs MOTIVE!Jen googled"How long to die in cold" 2:27&6.Autopsy show John was beaten to death, dog bites & hypothermia
My first thought was that the cop who had been flirting with Karen through texts, was confronted by John and possibly a fight happened. Also, why was that lady googling how long it takes for someone to die in cold AT 2AM(before anyone knew John was missing) AND THEN DELETED THE SEARCHES AND CALLS 🤔🤔
@@meganmoorevazquezI agree & have felt the same. Also all of the witnesses testified that Karen told others on scene & before he was pronounced dead, that “John was dead”. If she in fact said this, she sure as hell wouldnt be asking anyone to google “how long to die in the cold”. Karen also would never ask this question if she in fact killed him. Not that I believe Karen killed John bcz I dont, but I hope the jury caught this contradiction. They cannot have their cake & eat it too. Meaning it cant go both ways. Its all bull crap! They are all liars & stand to lose a lot.
@@Alemaniaturquia after 9 days the prosecution seems to be trying harder to prove their innocence than tell the jury exactly how KR killed Officer O'Keffe. I think the defence have got a strong case and they only have to prove "reasonable doubt" and to my mind so far, there's a truck load.
@Thomas-sx6mclegally the defense doesn’t have to have a thing the DA does and they do not just a group of high school buddies all lying for each other … why?!
The reason they do not want to Claim Colin was there is he would have to be questioned. Colin is young, inexperienced and will give something away. I think/believe Colin is the one who did it. This woman is full of it. Phony,rehearsed conditioned testimony.
Yes, because any number of ppl leaving the house could have hit him, if it is completely proven that he WAS hit and not beaten to death. Which halfway through the case, is still a question!!
@@lilithstribeI think they had words. I think the young punk started a fight because he was drunk... And once he started the fight with O'Keefe the dog got in on the action and the rest is too sad to imagine😮
Nicole: Our house needed a lot of work , we couldnt afford it.... but ripped up all flooring for 10s of ghousands of dollars before sale - basement? That doent add value...maybe an extra bathroom for even less...
Floors keep bloodstains, basement is key, why did they have time to do that to the floor before LE stepped in? Does anyone else smell something rotten?
You say that you didn’t hear anything because you had your blinds down your curtains closed but yet 100% your dog kept barking barking and barking the whole time and don’t tell me that you didn’t get up to see what was going on
My dog is a Cane Corso mix. She never barks unless someone doesn’t belong in our neighborhood. I always run between our houses to see who is there. All my mom has to say is “Bella is barking”.
Anyone who calls their dog “IT” (especially after having the dog in the family for 6+ years) is either heartless and/or trying reeeaaal hard to distance themselves.
the tellings of no emotional connection to the dog, no empathy and why the dog were unpredictable, didn't like people i e bit and attacked, mirroring the owners behaviors
Whose gonna be looking down at the ground when they are driving away.... she did it like she said on body cam footage. She was pissed and backed slammed backwards into him and took off
I can’t get past: scratches on his arm and then the family getting rid of the dog, redoing the basement, (was there blood down there that they had to clean up?) selling the house, no law enforcement going inside with a dead body in their yard, no one hearing Karen in hysterics outside, or any of the chaos, dog not barking with everything going on outside, all the differing reports, and on and on. There is reasonable doubt at the very least.
@@lorianderson605the cops were in the home questioning the home owners. Pretty sure if they had just beat the life out of someone in that home.. they would have refused the police access to their home. They did not have to let the police in.
@@EC-dz3fb Or they were the exact cause and now need to be removed from glaring legal ramifications or punishment! Who has a dog for 6 years and then suddenly rehomes it without reason? Its like big red arrows now pointing AT the dog. I guess they could not calculate THAT in advance!!! Continue digging those holes folks, until it is big enough for ALL of you liars to fall into! Even on a personal level, these ugly older women would have no problem blaming pretty little Karen for this whole scenario and then convincing the men to follow suit! Quick and clean is never the best solution! There's always that pesky drop of blood to sink you. Has the house been gone through? This case is weird for sure and no proper protocol followed!
That time slot means everything, cuz. as far as I know, K did not come back and find J until much later, googling that at 2:27 would have been the time that J was injured and outside, therefore the 2 instances happened hours apart!
@@belindavandyk6128 The cellebrite software downloaded her phones activity It said 2:27 am “hos long to die in cold” Before Karen was even calling anyone looking for him.
My father used to say, if you lie about the little things, then you're just a big fat liar!!! We will NEVER be able to rely on you for ANY future truth!!!
It's pretty clear they think they can get away with this isn't it? Makes me wonder what else they've gotten away with. I hope the jury can see just how blatant these conflicting testimonies are.
convenient how she gets really detailed with her answers when it comes to certain questions…. You can tell which ones everyone are intertwined with. Very very coached.
Their nephew Collin has a bad reputation, probably started something with John O'Keefe, so Brian Albert and German Shepherd/mixed breed dog jumped in to attack JO. JO was dumped in the snow by B Albert and his buddy, Brian Higgins. *That's why they ALL claim Collin left earlier.* Also Chloe, the dog bite attack in two other situations.
I believe Nicole's job in the (alleged) conspiracy, was to clean up the basement. In her testimony she talks about cleaning and at that time, it's possible to see contempt expression on her face.
Wakes up to find out there was a body on the lawn and still does not go outside to see what happened. ! And , Mrs Albert, what time, did you guys put John out like the trash on the curb ?
You’re just too d*mb! It’s not UNUSUAL for a person not to go out and see commotions outside! Not all people are like you who likes to see and gossip bwahahaha
So you think they went out and put his lifeless body way away from their house for any and everyone to see but still didn’t care if any and everyone seen.? If I killed someone in my home.. I’m definitely not carrying their lifeless body outside out in the open and dropping the body off on my lawn and then going inside to go to sleep. You know how far fetched that sounds.? Lol
I find it odd that John O’Keefe would want to go to a strangers house. He really didn’t know them at all, and he wasn’t really associating with them at the waterfall bar and he was dropped off and Karen didn’t even go with them so basically he went into a housewith people he had no idea who they were. They’re all related all by himself family and all himself he was the outsider.
Well I believe the story is that Karen had said to him that she didn’t hear them get an invite .. therefore she wanted him to go in and make sure they were invited … and obviously when he got out of the vehicle is when he was hit ( if you believe he was hit ) and she then left … according to her he was taking long so she decided to leave
Absolutely nailed with the Proctor questions; Albert’s are screwed. And again, when the truth is on your side, you don’t squirm and explain so much, as she does nonstop in this testimony. No jury with an iota of common sense would convict
She’s super close to the Albert family …, they call her Aunty Bev. The defense wanted her to excuse herself for conflict of interest but she refused… I wonder why. 😂🤔
@@jamesallen2851 she's on the payroll too. Isn't there proof of a Venmo payment somewhere? Maybe she's just hoping the jury will find her innocent so she can just say "hmmm *sigh* I did my bit fam"!
@@jamesallen2851 All this points toward the corruption that I mentioned in a prev. comment, they would certainly need to collect politicians, judges, LEOs, and others that were willing to turn a blind eye, set up the innocent, even kill to ensure their own survival. Its like a wannabee, self-styled mafia operating without honour or law.
Did she just say an officer was in the house by the time she came down? Didn't every other witness from this corrupt family and the officers themselves say they never went in the house?!?!?
@KnucklSandwich too many corrupt family members and policeman to all be able to keep their stories straight. Only a matter of time for it all to crumble.
I now believe that it’s very possible that Karen Reed may be innocent. I think there was a fight between the police officers at the party house and John O’Keefe was beat so bad he died, or almost dead, and his body was left near the house to die in the snow.
Apparently it has been noted in text that Matt told everyone around Feb 1st of 22, tell them they guy never entered the house.. Alberts brother Chris, says text.. "exactly"
And the fact that we are even here lets you know how bad our justice system and government truly is and should scare the literal crap out of every single citizen of the United States.
There are way too many people involved in this. Somebody, probably Collin, will eventually say something to someone about what really went down. How TF do these people sleep at night? Those poor kids who Tragically lost their parents and their Uncle stepped up to raise them. My heart breaks for those kids.
@@kathismith7441 After Proctor's testimony, the judge should have declared a mistrial and put an end to this nonsensical prosecution. These liars and crooked cops should be the one's on trial.
As i fallow this case i notice witnesses dont remember much at all. Didn't even remember what they said the day before which makes me wonder how can their statements be credible. I do know over time memory can change, trauma can mess with your memory but to testify and say i dont really remember the next day . 🤔 The judge is annoyed being there, its a inconvenience for her to do her job, thats the vibe she is putting off. Having that vibe makes you wonder if this is going to be a fair trial. I know when you would deep breathe and or sigh the way the judge has even in a basic customer service job the boss would want to slap you on the back of the head, tell you get it together or go down the road some place else. So with a higher up job your suppose to set a example in that court room. Oh and another thing... Isnt the witness supposed to say a clear YES or NO ? Not ya, yup , or sure ?? My grandmother and her dads side was from Massachusetts . Still have family there 😊 so I picked up the Massachusetts accent from her . Im over here motha focka every time im annoyed with this case lol ♥️ Lots of positive thoughts and prayers to the family.
As a human.. you’re not going to remember every detail from 2 and a half years ago. Especially from a night where a lot of people and alcohol were involved.
This case should make every American shook to their core. Karen literally doesn’t even need to speak. The ACTIONS of these “witnesses” tells everything we need to know. The fact this even made it to a trial is MIND BLOWING whenever it is so clear what happened. John had bite marks on his body, their dog has a history of biting humans and being aggressive. They randomly immediately replace the floors in the basement, they rehome the dog, they sell the house. How is this only visible to us? And this judge…Jesus Christ. You can literally hear her sighing whenever the defense asks anything, and I have NEVER once in my life seen a judge sustain so many questions that are VITAL questions that need to be answered. It’s like as soon as the defense is on fire and proving these people to be liars, she shuts it down. Cutting off cross examination in the middle of questions to release for the day…Never seen anything like it. I pray she is disbarred. She is completely incapable of not showing prejudice.
True why would he be standing there to doing nothing and giving Karen enough time to hit him in reverse and she’s was drunk as a skunk yet she hit the target. This isn’t adding up
Karen and she waited because she felt like they really weren’t invited so John was to go in and make sure it was OK. She watched him walk to the door and he never came back or called her is why she kept calling him leaving nasty messages.
Her explanation about why their door is unlocked is ridiculous. This is a police officer’s home with presumably guns in the house. You’re going to lock your doors at night before you go to bed. Your kids are all adults. They should have keys. They don’t lose!
Because she indulged to much information they don’t want jury hearing , they defend the question once they realize why it was asked and lawyer trying leave reasonable doubts
She literally mentioned both. She said he was there for a very very short time and that he was damn near leaving as she was coming. How did you miss that.?
why does his death have to either be a murder by vehicle or a huge party cover-up. there are other possibilities being completely overlooked. Like someone else hit him or got in a fight with him outside without other people knowing about it.
Have you been following the details of the case or shut your ears off ? Honestly. Anyone with a brain knows this is a cover up - if they've actually listened to the details
At 5:04 mark she says everything was fine nothing out of the unusual while shaking her head no! Sorry I don’t believe a word out of her mouth. Poor Karen having to deal with this and grieving.
What happened to Officer O'Keffe's belt Mr Albert? How do you loose your belt if you get hit by a car? How do you loose so much blood yet your solo cups are empty from the spots on the snow. How does he get hit at 12.45, all those people say it just started snowing, noone see's a body leaving the party and his body is found on compressed snow? And don't get me started about the footprint under the piece of taillight you found after impounding the vehicle?
Put yourself in their shoes. Their son/brother is dead. Violently. The last person to see him (who was also very angry at him) was Karen Read, WHO WAS DRIVING DRUNK. Karen called either them or Johns' sister-in-law and screamed "John is dead"! What if it was YOUR son, YOUR brother?
How could they know, if it were your loved one, you would want the truth too and would have to wait til the end to know. When one is grieving and seeking justice, only the truth will do!
Your family is guilty of knowing what happened!!! There is Noway with the injuries he had was from a car, your dog also attacked him when he tried to defend himself. And your dry mouth is a sign your scared and lying
@@milart12 Its a case of all or none, and in this case, since they were ALL in on it, they now ALL have to lie, but that is a difficult prospect on any ordinary day!
@@EC-dz3fb You should really try taking your meds. or just decide to be a normal person, making normal comments rather than annoying everyone else. You must be a real pest in real life. I'm gonna have to block you just not to see your inane comments any more!
Karen and her lawyers are the cover up😢 She knew she hit hhim she made 52 calls to make ìt seem liked she didnt her father orders that why she eraseed thosed text because he was the first one she called.justice for the bryant family .karen and her lawyer is trying to pull a fast one but it not gona work
In watching Karen with attorneys at side bar, all alone, i can't help but be incredibly angry at these families. They have messed around with evidence, verbally abused the defendant, lied, purgered themselves, and on and on....and one or two of them killed John! I dont believe ANYTHING that comes out of their mouths. Jen is the worst actress of all her pretend tears for John are soooo fake. She just referred to him "remember that "guy" at the waterfall???? DISGUSTING
She remembers specifically on the times people left but doesn't know what her own children drive? What kind of literal scum can these people be for covering up a death? I think a drunken fight happened and they are covering it up. I don't believe it was intentional but I do believe they are scum for trying to pin their mistakes on someone totally innocent based on her distraught and nervous mutterings.
She said she stood by her story Caitlyn was one of the last ones to stay till 2am but failed to mention her to the cop whom she said only mentioned to the cop only those people who hung out after 12am. Which one is it?
Karen did it in midst of drunken argument. Evidence reflects that. She was playing with the atf dude. Both lacked respect but doesnt negate that she dumped him and left. We all know you only dump and leave party if you are pissed. Not dog attack, not snow plow, not brawl....
Their dog attacked John and he fell back and hit his head…possibly down the stairs. They knew he was gravely injured and put him outside. That’s my theory.
@@lilithstribe yes I think that’s possible too. They seem to be downplaying how Colin would harass John about his property and his horribly disrespectful behaviour.
lol ok I play KR was smashed dropped him off cold 🥶 wind snow , John said drop me off here I’ll walk since you can drive in snow well , he was right “ she stomps the gas in 400 hp all wheel drive 80 g Lexi’s feels big bump thinks she hit curb looked around seen nothing oblivious went home passed out , few hours later realized he wasn’t home 🏠 went looking 👀 for him , found him called police 👮 OMG OMG. I HIT him I hit him , as she Frantically told anyone that would Listen 👂. Everyone quietly did there job and felt bad for KR and More for John because it was a tragedy and he suffered.
Her mouth is very tense except when answering easy questions. Lots of blinking, shoulder shrugging, contempt smiles, eyeblocking and headshaking at the wrong times
So you are just told there was a dear friends dead body found on your lawn and taken to hospital and nobody asks Jen to take them outside and explain exactly where he was found or any details? First question I would ask if I was with Jen is where did you find him, and take her outside to show me exactly where his body was. But nobody went outside before or during their pow wow to see. Too busy formulating the cover up I guess. Bunch of Morons
In the dash cam footage - a point was made of watching for the light coming on at the house. Did anyone catch which light it was that came on? I’m not fully believing this version
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They would have run to the window when thry heard
Cover up.time
I'm rewatching . Who cares
@@Gle7799Literally NO ONE.
Even if the police sirens weren’t on fire engine, sirens are always on
No one ever talks about the fact John died. He was so connected to them all his life. He was only 46 years old. What a great tragedy.
Yeah, especially Karen and the defense
@@pheebs818the defense are the only ones seeking the truth because they are poking holes in the absurd way the CW is trying to make us believe is the way John died. Even their accident reconstruction expert was absurd.
@@pheebs818 They're too busy playing celebrities
That's what happens when peoples' minds refuse to use common sense and compassion. It also seems to be irrelevant that Karen chose to walk into a relationship with a man with children, which she knew she didn't want. That move alone made him a victim.... especially telling another man " you're hot"....she never had children which is a blessing since it's such a burden to be a mature responsible person concerned about the welfare of two kids while drinking and fighting on a regular basis. She should have never entered back into his life. He may still be here continuing to father those kids.
@@janebogdanski9988 he only knew jen mcabe ,worked with ba, he did not grow up with anyone.
The LAST thing this judge seems to be seeking is the truth
Auntie Bev doesn't want the truth. She refused to recuse herself but she must know that Levy is watching so I can't help wondering how this plays out.
I only found out yesterday, that the Judge was asked to recuse herself by the Defence owing to her personal knowledge of many of the persons involved in this case. And she refused! How does that work? Was the reason not valid for the Defence/s Request? Was her reason to stay on the case, more valid? If a judge can refuse, what is the actual point of being able to ask? Its like a show.
@@hardwired8084Becase she wants to rule this court and therefore this case. Don’t judges have immunity that protects them from pretty much everything
@@pumpkinfield100- Yes. Most judges have judicial immunity from prosecution.
The judge knows the truth. She's doing her best to keep in a secret.
Everybody is drunk and tired, however they remember everything but a body😅
Drunk and tired, yet over middle aged couple and Brian says he may have accidentally made phone calls, while being intimate with his wife, 😂
@@EatChatwithLalaIgnorant and disrespectful.
@@EatChatwithLalayou are disgusting 🤢
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@@berlin-west4651😂😂❤❤ 2:50 2:50
A house full of first responders and police officers have a ton of police cars, ambulances, fire rescue and officers in the front yard for hours and don't go outside? As if!
AND hes a cop too??? not concerned??? interested??? worried??? anything???
And they know how to clean up a crime scene
@@lindamon5101 So someone said they saw his body on the lawn... I see, I see... And didn't call the police... I see, I see... 😆🤣
@@thomasgirty6397 LE did not enter the home, but what about the possibility of more dead ppl inside or in any kind of danger at all. Exigent circumstances 101. But I guess the bully that owned the home and his clique of wrongdoers, was busy on that burner phone that he uses for other nefarious purposes, giving instructions and covering up from the get go!
@@lindamon5101with a leaf blower apparently 😂
Based on this, you can murder someone (not saying the Alberts did it) and leave their body on your lawn because a dead body on a lawn does not constitute probable cause for a search because it creates a perfect grey area situation. You wont even get a knock for questioning under reasonable suspicion.
Even if that person was confirmed to be heading into that house (which the officers knew on arrival as confirmed by Gallagher and Lank). This case is setting a dangerous precedent for police procedure being ignored and people genuinely think its okay and are ready to send a woman to prison for murder over it.
Glad someone is paying attention....
Its the bad cofrupt precedent for me! THAT is the crux of this case. Takes me back to Steven Avery!
right. Except in reality, Anyone else would get shot on site if they didn’t come outside with their hands up. Smh
You know Canton police called the FBI to investigate this because the body was on a policeman's yard? Don't forget that little detail. The FBI turned it down because they didn't consider John dead. Seems like something one would do when they are planning a framing coverup 😂😂
@@pheebs818 they didn't call the FBI. They called the state police and they turned it down because John wasn't declared dead yet.
She doesnt know what car her kids drive? But remembers the specific times everyone left? GTFO
Why did her husband Brian go up to bed before their company left and was not sleeping but rather watching t.v. Seems odd to me.
@@joannephillips4110 maybe he wanted them to leave?
So everyone is in on this except Karen? Unlikely
@@B-ch6uk She was not there, nor were she and John part of this clique, so not sure what the question is?
@@hardwired8084 They are implying that everyone at the after-party was framing Karen for John's death. Why would all those people lie?
All of these people leaving and nobody saw a body???🙄
They moved it there he had dog scratches on him too
@@MeMe-ed2rk didn’t he also have bites?
Amazing ain't it???
That's because his body was not worth that lady says it was
And nobody in that neibour hood with caméras rolling. I guess that fortified hôod of cop land felt un this day and âge the dont need caméras on that street
This judge should be investigated by the fbi on all cases she was involved in. No way should this crook should be on the bench
How is it possible nobody saw a man lying in the snow or in front of the house when 4 or 5 people were coming in and out?
And it was NOT snowing hard at that point.
It was dark out and nobody looks on front lawns at night. Plus the snow had started and made the body look like a tiny mound that would blend into the rest of the white lawn.
@@phil1517 he was waaaaayyyyyy over to the right at the edge of the property ontop of the grass with a burm behind him. there was no expectation, he never went in, etc etc etc etc. why is that so hard for people to understand in the dark with anticipated blizzard?
@@tehilasunshine9757- I agree.
Why would you drop him off by the fire hydrant when the doors were over there doesn't make sense
This judge is probably the worst judge I have ever listened to. She is not only sounding annoyed, she seems biased in tone when she deal with one side vs the other.
I heard awhile back, Chris Albert was driving drunk and killed someone this judge's brother defended Chris. Chris is now a counselman.
Was wondering if I was the only one feeling the same vibe from the judge.
She's rediculous
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She is biased. She knows this family. They call her aunt Bev.
Bev is the worst most biased judge ever - her sighing and contempt should have her disbarred
Her vag is probably terrible
I know, what is up with her sighing?this is her job.
How do we get her disbarred
How would you and your family be treated if a dead police officer was on your front lawn 🤔🤔🤔
if you were a police officer yourself, you would be out there like a shot!!!
How would 𝘆𝗼𝘂 and your family be treated if lies and rumors and false allegations were spread about you and/or your child?
@@EC-dz3fb we would be excited - no one know we exist
@@EC-dz3fb
Is this an answer to my question 🙄
@@carebear6763 No, it's a present from Funshine the Care Bear.
Rest in peace to John O'Keefe. I find it hard to believe anybody in that house was asleep and were oblivious to a dead body in their front lawn, didn't hear any commotion, no thud, no car door, nothing...I do not believe them whatsoever.
They were all there by 12AM and did not leave till after 1:30 AM to 2 AM, how is that coming and going -
It was snowing and things were covered.
@@soulomine😂😂😂😂 you actually believe that utter nonsense? Wow
Your bedroom windows facing the street. How do you not hear sirens, see emergency lights. Not go outside to see what the commotion is all about. Total BS!! All you guys stories don’t add up
@@tjs6449 well there were no sirens actually
Seems they claimed to be asleep even with all the LE presence and other emergency vehicles parked outside their home and even with so many people coming and going and with neighbours all around!
Wow! They are all saying the exact same recollection of the events like it was rehearst
That is because they all met and rehearsed it. They had over three days to get their stories together.
@@kathismith7441"are"
Rehearst? Hahaha
Or the truth.
Why would Brian Higgins be called and asked to come over that morning after the cops left? Why? He wasn’t a good friend, he had never even been in the house before this night. The only reason he was there and John and Karen were asked to go there was that Jen McCabe and others were going to gang up her about texting Higgins because of the niece and John and that scene in Aruba.
Between the play fighting and the suggestion of an aggressive German Shephard which they re-homed shortly after the death... i will be shocked if 12 strangers strongly believe Karen MURDERED her boyfriend with her car 🤦
and the video SHOWING the tail lite getting cracked, NOT BROKEN in her driveway. AFTER she was to have hit him. video is plain that nethier tail lite is broken.
Why do they think she did it when he wasn't even in the video of her backing up?
If the verdict will not be clear as it should be namely not guilty than you will know that the jury has also been smeared
Plus all the peoples coming and going, including their kids! They are covering up something. I don’t see the jury convicting.
@@thomasgirty6397 I think her appearing on the scene and uttering "I hit him?" provided an absolutely delightful scapegoat for this whole terrible incident, and then the snowball rolled down the hill. I think they were betting on the snowplow before Karen turned up. He could have been the one on trial here, and even then, it would have been tried as an accident, there is something further afoot here, something underlying and personal why she was used immediately, why she was set up and over charged. I hope we find out at some point cuz. after watching trials, you sorta grow close to a person!!
These People are just a pack of Bullies!. They picked on the Wrong Karen
And serious drunks
Birds or a feather ,,,,,,,,
criminals
No one has a ring camera. Really!
The police chief has one across the road but apparently checked it and there wasn't anything to see there?? A neighborhood full of police but no cameras and unlocked doors? Pretty sure when people "burst" into people's bedroom early in the morning wouldn't a normal American reach for their gun or wouldn't the dog be going berserk? So many lies here
That whole neighborhood is full of cops and state troopers they all together. No surprise there's no ring cameras
@@diana57799”Allegedly” there are no cameras. Are you implying they’re all there to protect each other, so no cameras are necessary? Do you find it believable the Alberts never locked their front door?
@@Grammichal im being sarcastic you know. Soo many missing blanks, different testimonies, cut surveillances , change basement floors , got rid of the dog in Vermont, and sold house less then 50k it was worth. Soo you tell me that doesn't sound sketchy and framed.
@@Grammichal and destroyed all they're phones. And the clothes that read husband had on that night is in evidence that they didn't wanted to show In court.
Dog is gone and floors were changed in basement! Hello! Then they sell the house!
@KnucklSandwich
I heard they sold it for 2 iPads and an ice cream sandwich.
She tried to lie about the dog 😮
@@EC-dz3fb😂😂
The phone was also changed
@@MsPerrysauceYes! Obviously he KNEW phones are very useful in investigations. Why didn’t he keep his phone? If he “wished” LE came in his home to investigate WHY DIDN’T HE INSIST?
These cops all know exactly what happened to him.
And sodas Karen Reed
You should consider that all of these witnesses would have to be ok with sending an innocent lady to prison for the rest of her life, if you believe she was framed. I just can’t accept that. One of these women would have have cracked and told the truth before the trial. There isn’t a single text message between any of them showing they disliked Karen prior to the incident.
@@NuraCaicedo-xh2ok So does *
Dehydration can make people delusional. Have a drink
@@notsorryyouretriggered That's not even witty.
@@NuraCaicedo-xh2ok ?
Her husband said him and Brian Higgins went upstairs to look at photos, she says they were in the family room downstairs. She also stated that her kids would "always" come in and kiss her goodnight when they came home late, but her husband said the son just popped his head round the door. Their testimonies disagree about a lot, except the times. They seem to remember exactly when and where everyone was at any given time. Sus.
Yes! That's right, lots of the same story with different twist
That’s hard when you are drunk. I wouldn’t know any of this either at an after party.
@@81suze unless it’s your house, your kids, and your responsibility. Then, trust me, you’d definitely pay attention. Unless of course you’re a POS parent and adult
To my mind and to what is the norm, grown offspring do NOT seek their parents out for a good night kiss, that is for little kids and IF they did that, then they seem abnormal to me!!!
People don't just get rid of their dogs after 6 years. Is it impossible no but unlikely.
Did you hear the testimony from the DNA expert? She said that she could not find canine DNA on John O' Keefe.
@@milart12they couldn’t find it on the sample provided.
@@milart12not sure who who took the sample and it wasn't his body swabbed.
Ya but they do
That paul okeefe sitting in the same chair every day to stare at KR that should of never been allowed!
There are 3 key but simple points that should have been raised even before this trial:- 1. Did they in fact have contact with any Realtor to sell their home, prior to this death? 2. What efforts have been made to access/hide the dog in question? 3. Was there any underlying motive for any person present that night to want to hurt John to the point of a brutal fight breaking out to cause death? Without these 3 answers, everything else seems to be a walk in the dark!
Brian & Colin & Higgins brought John to basement.John reported Colin for dealing drugs MOTIVE!Jen googled"How long to die in cold" 2:27&6.Autopsy show John was beaten to death, dog bites & hypothermia
My first thought was that the cop who had been flirting with Karen through texts, was confronted by John and possibly a fight happened. Also, why was that lady googling how long it takes for someone to die in cold AT 2AM(before anyone knew John was missing) AND THEN DELETED THE SEARCHES AND CALLS 🤔🤔
@@meganmoorevazquezI agree & have felt the same. Also all of the witnesses testified that Karen told others on scene & before he was pronounced dead, that “John was dead”. If she in fact said this, she sure as hell wouldnt be asking anyone to google “how long to die in the cold”. Karen also would never ask this question if she in fact killed him. Not that I believe Karen killed John bcz I dont, but I hope the jury caught this contradiction. They cannot have their cake & eat it too. Meaning it cant go both ways. Its all bull crap! They are all liars & stand to lose a lot.
@@meganmoorevazquez Too too obvious to be missed!!
@@meganmoorevazquez now that is just too weird… How in the hell do you explain that… I am with you 100% there's no rational explanation for that
Every time Defense is on fire. She stops it and interrupts
@Thomas-sx6mc The burden of proof is on the DA. They just play Defense
@@Alemaniaturquia after 9 days the prosecution seems to be trying harder to prove their innocence than tell the jury exactly how KR killed Officer O'Keffe. I think the defence have got a strong case and they only have to prove "reasonable doubt" and to my mind so far, there's a truck load.
@Thomas-sx6mclegally the defense doesn’t have to have a thing the DA does and they do not just a group of high school buddies all lying for each other … why?!
🤣this defense has never been "on fire"
Exact opposite happened
The reason they do not want to Claim Colin was there is he would have to be questioned. Colin is young, inexperienced and will give something away.
I think/believe Colin is the one who did it.
This woman is full of it. Phony,rehearsed conditioned testimony.
I agree! This lady isn't truthful and talks too much when answering questions. She's definitely hiding something
Yes, because any number of ppl leaving the house could have hit him, if it is completely proven that he WAS hit and not beaten to death. Which halfway through the case, is still a question!!
@@lilithstribeI think they had words. I think the young punk started a fight because he was drunk... And once he started the fight with O'Keefe the dog got in on the action and the rest is too sad to imagine😮
She’s lying. 210% lying. She’s going to regret being a part of this cover up one day.
collin and his friends. Collin alone probably couldn’t beat john
Nicole: Our house needed a lot of work , we couldnt afford it....
but ripped up all flooring for 10s of ghousands of dollars before sale - basement? That doent add value...maybe an extra bathroom for even less...
And 4 SUVs..
Floors keep bloodstains, basement is key, why did they have time to do that to the floor before LE stepped in? Does anyone else smell something rotten?
Also that property was worth close to a million dollars, on a cop salary,,,,,,
Then sold for 50k under listed price
And the acceptance of $50,000 less on sale price indicates a NEED to sell quickly.
You say that you didn’t hear anything because you had your blinds down your curtains closed but yet 100% your dog kept barking barking and barking the whole time and don’t tell me that you didn’t get up to see what was going on
oh come on! Everyone knows that having your blinds down means you cant hear what’s going on outside 😂
So how many people from neighboring houses came out to the sound of sorens?
My dog is a Cane Corso mix. She never barks unless someone doesn’t belong in our neighborhood. I always run between our houses to see who is there. All my mom has to say is “Bella is barking”.
I had a German Shepherd and I have no doubt that she was barking and barking away !!
Where do you get the story that the dog was barking, that has never been mentioned. And for the 100th time there were no sirens.
The Alberts are covering up for both the dog and whoever killed him.
My suspect #1 is Collin the beloved nephew.
@@NotYourBizz yep!
Definitely. Guess only Chloe knows for sure. And she ain't tellin' 𝘯𝘰𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺, 𝘯𝘰 𝘸𝘢𝘺, 𝘯𝘰 𝘩𝘰𝘸.
Colin is definitely a suspect
@KnucklSandwichout of state too
All these people in and out the house and leaving and no one saw anything. 🤔
And not one is a suspect. Like really?!?! wth?
Anyone who calls their dog “IT” (especially after having the dog in the family for 6+ years) is either heartless and/or trying reeeaaal hard to distance themselves.
Aligns perfectly with the people who call their beloved friend John “the guy”
the tellings of no emotional connection to the dog, no empathy and why the dog were unpredictable, didn't like people i e bit and attacked, mirroring the owners behaviors
How did all these people come and go and not one see a body.
Wasn't there a full on snow storm?
@@LadyLsound yes which makes it easier to see it. With all that white instead of dark.
Whose gonna be looking down at the ground when they are driving away.... she did it like she said on body cam footage. She was pissed and backed slammed backwards into him and took off
@@Melaniesmugz plenty of people would notice it.
Because the body wasn't placed there until after all the people left that were going to.
Not guilty, and throw Michael Proctor in jail.
John was inside that 🏠 and something happened to him.
🌺🙏 RIP 🌺🙏
All should go to jail. Mobsters.
You got rid of dog you don’t have him that mean you got rid of it HELLO
I can’t get past: scratches on his arm and then the family getting rid of the dog, redoing the basement, (was there blood down there that they had to clean up?) selling the house, no law enforcement going inside with a dead body in their yard, no one hearing Karen in hysterics outside, or any of the chaos, dog not barking with everything going on outside, all the differing reports, and on and on. There is reasonable doubt at the very least.
Why wasn't the home investigated immediately? So strange.
@@lorianderson605the cops were in the home questioning the home owners. Pretty sure if they had just beat the life out of someone in that home.. they would have refused the police access to their home. They did not have to let the police in.
Amazing how complicated and confusing lally has made a homicide case, each witness stating different stories, but never implicating colin or the dog.
Um, they're probably not "implicating [C]olin or the dog" because they weren't part of it.
@@EC-dz3fb😂
@@josephkain6213 Thanks🤭
@@EC-dz3fb Or they were the exact cause and now need to be removed from glaring legal ramifications or punishment! Who has a dog for 6 years and then suddenly rehomes it without reason? Its like big red arrows now pointing AT the dog. I guess they could not calculate THAT in advance!!! Continue digging those holes folks, until it is big enough for ALL of you liars to fall into! Even on a personal level, these ugly older women would have no problem blaming pretty little Karen for this whole scenario and then convincing the men to follow suit! Quick and clean is never the best solution! There's always that pesky drop of blood to sink you. Has the house been gone through? This case is weird for sure and no proper protocol followed!
People who have nothing to hide, hide nothing
And ... an absence of evidence does not indicate evidence of absence.
Jen was researching hypothermia around 2:27 A.M. Why at that hour? Maybe someone asked her to?
That time slot means everything, cuz. as far as I know, K did not come back and find J until much later, googling that at 2:27 would have been the time that J was injured and outside, therefore the 2 instances happened hours apart!
Exactly. But has this come out in trial yet?
SHE DENIED SEARCHING
@@hardwired8084
Much later like 6 A.M.
@@belindavandyk6128
The cellebrite software downloaded her phones activity
It said 2:27 am “hos long to die in cold”
Before Karen was even calling anyone looking for him.
I thought the cops never went into the house... but Officer Lank (and apparently others later) did in fact come inside. Interesting.
Right and dod either officer in house see or hear the dog, being tha the officers are strangers. Odd
My father used to say, if you lie about the little things, then you're just a big fat liar!!! We will NEVER be able to rely on you for ANY future truth!!!
That’s what I thought ! Where is that police report?
they were told what to say, blame Karen
CW seems to be private attorney for mcalberts
Of course!!!! And probably the ME who said no dog DNA was found on the body?! 😮
Where was the dog when officer Lank came inside in dining room? I would think the dog would be barking
or when Jenn came in the unlocked front door screaming?
Very good point!
@@sheilafirmin5257 Unless they locked the dog away, wanting to remove her from the crime.
They got rid of the dog and the house..hmmmm....this family is guilty not Karen!!!
And the phone!!!
Evidence? No dog DNA was present. There was no dog saliva in the wounds.
also tore up and re did the basement.
Prayers for Karen. She is not guilty. I can't believe how they can lie under oath.
It's pretty clear they think they can get away with this isn't it? Makes me wonder what else they've gotten away with. I hope the jury can see just how blatant these conflicting testimonies are.
convenient how she gets really detailed with her answers when it comes to certain questions…. You can tell which ones everyone are intertwined with. Very very coached.
Their nephew Collin has a bad reputation, probably started something with John O'Keefe, so Brian Albert and German Shepherd/mixed breed dog jumped in to attack JO. JO was dumped in the snow by B Albert and his buddy, Brian Higgins. *That's why they ALL claim Collin left earlier.* Also Chloe, the dog bite attack in two other situations.
Agree completely, most likely that is exactly what happened
I believe Nicole's job in the (alleged) conspiracy, was to clean up the basement. In her testimony she talks about cleaning and at that time, it's possible to see contempt expression on her face.
LOL, are you serious?
@@TopCat8877 She cleans, so ... that means it was her role in the conspiracy. To clean up ... like, the blood 'n stuff. I mean, 𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘢 𝘰𝘣𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴. 🙄
Wakes up to find out there was a body on the lawn and still does not go outside to see what happened. !
And , Mrs Albert, what time, did you guys put John out like the trash on the curb ?
You’re just too d*mb! It’s not UNUSUAL for a person not to go out and see commotions outside! Not all people are like you who likes to see and gossip bwahahaha
So you think they went out and put his lifeless body way away from their house for any and everyone to see but still didn’t care if any and everyone seen.? If I killed someone in my home.. I’m definitely not carrying their lifeless body outside out in the open and dropping the body off on my lawn and then going inside to go to sleep. You know how far fetched that sounds.? Lol
I find it odd that John O’Keefe would want to go to a strangers house. He really didn’t know them at all, and he wasn’t really associating with them at the waterfall bar and he was dropped off and Karen didn’t even go with them so basically he went into a housewith people he had no idea who they were. They’re all related all by himself family and all himself he was the outsider.
Maybe he walked in & the dog not knowing him attacked him. They did say the dog was mean to strangers.
Well I believe the story is that Karen had said to him that she didn’t hear them get an invite .. therefore she wanted him to go in and make sure they were invited … and obviously when he got out of the vehicle is when he was hit ( if you believe he was hit ) and she then left … according to her he was taking long so she decided to leave
He knew them. Karen fn confessed.
John was good friends with Jen, who invited them both. Karen admitted they argued on the way to the house and that she hit him.
I'm pretty sure JO was in on the conspiracy, too.
Absolutely nailed with the Proctor questions; Albert’s are screwed.
And again, when the truth is on your side, you don’t squirm and explain so much, as she does nonstop in this testimony. No jury with an iota of common sense would convict
Yes they would but let's hope not
Why is the judge so nasty and clearly biased?
She’s super close to the Albert family …, they call her Aunty Bev. The defense wanted her to excuse herself for conflict of interest but she refused… I wonder why. 😂🤔
@@jamesallen2851 she's on the payroll too. Isn't there proof of a Venmo payment somewhere? Maybe she's just hoping the jury will find her innocent so she can just say "hmmm *sigh* I did my bit fam"!
@@jamesallen2851 All this points toward the corruption that I mentioned in a prev. comment, they would certainly need to collect politicians, judges, LEOs, and others that were willing to turn a blind eye, set up the innocent, even kill to ensure their own survival. Its like a wannabee, self-styled mafia operating without honour or law.
Did she just say an officer was in the house by the time she came down? Didn't every other witness from this corrupt family and the officers themselves say they never went in the house?!?!?
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@KnucklSandwich too many corrupt family members and policeman to all be able to keep their stories straight. Only a matter of time for it all to crumble.
Officer Link?
I now believe that it’s very possible that Karen Reed may be innocent. I think there was a fight between the police officers at the party house and John O’Keefe was beat so bad he died, or almost dead, and his body was left near the house to die in the snow.
Apparently it has been noted in text that Matt told everyone around Feb 1st of 22, tell them they guy never entered the house.. Alberts brother Chris, says text.. "exactly"
And the fact that we are even here lets you know how bad our justice system and government truly is and should scare the literal crap out of every single citizen of the United States.
I agree 💯
really strange how she keeps referring to the family dog as “it” ..
That's what I said. The husband called the dog it as well
There are way too many people involved in this. Somebody, probably Collin, will eventually say something to someone about what really went down. How TF do these people sleep at night? Those poor kids who Tragically lost their parents and their Uncle stepped up to raise them. My heart breaks for those kids.
I see her more as a key suspect in the murder cover up !
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Another liar 😮
State was so dumb putting this liar on the stand.
All of them must have been extremely drunk and many of them were driving! Really responsible police officers! Unbelievable,!
Are you for real?!!! Cops drink more than the average citizen! They know they can beat the charges?!
And not an utterance of anyone else hitting John by accident, weird huh!!?
Shouldn't be much of a problem establishing reasonable doubt in this case. Ms. Read will be acquitted
Unfortunately the question remains. Who took officerJohn O'Keefes life? I hope for justice and closure for Officer O'Keefes family
Karen is going to prison
@@kathismith7441 After Proctor's testimony, the judge should have declared a mistrial and put an end to this nonsensical prosecution. These liars and crooked cops should be the one's on trial.
As i fallow this case i notice witnesses dont remember much at all. Didn't even remember what they said the day before which makes me wonder how can their statements be credible. I do know over time memory can change, trauma can mess with your memory but to testify and say i dont really remember the next day . 🤔
The judge is annoyed being there, its a inconvenience for her to do her job, thats the vibe she is putting off. Having that vibe makes you wonder if this is going to be a fair trial.
I know when you would deep breathe and or sigh the way the judge has even in a basic customer service job the boss would want to slap you on the back of the head, tell you get it together or go down the road some place else. So with a higher up job your suppose to set a example in that court room.
Oh and another thing... Isnt the witness supposed to say a clear YES or NO ? Not ya, yup , or sure ??
My grandmother and her dads side was from Massachusetts . Still have family there 😊 so I picked up the Massachusetts accent from her . Im over here motha focka every time im annoyed with this case lol
♥️ Lots of positive thoughts and prayers to the family.
As a human.. you’re not going to remember every detail from 2 and a half years ago. Especially from a night where a lot of people and alcohol were involved.
This case should make every American shook to their core. Karen literally doesn’t even need to speak. The ACTIONS of these “witnesses” tells everything we need to know. The fact this even made it to a trial is MIND BLOWING whenever it is so clear what happened. John had bite marks on his body, their dog has a history of biting humans and being aggressive. They randomly immediately replace the floors in the basement, they rehome the dog, they sell the house. How is this only visible to us? And this judge…Jesus Christ. You can literally hear her sighing whenever the defense asks anything, and I have NEVER once in my life seen a judge sustain so many questions that are VITAL questions that need to be answered. It’s like as soon as the defense is on fire and proving these people to be liars, she shuts it down. Cutting off cross examination in the middle of questions to release for the day…Never seen anything like it. I pray she is disbarred. She is completely incapable of not showing prejudice.
Who dropped John off at the Alberts house? If he didn't go in, why would he just stand outside in the freezing cold while it was snowing?
True why would he be standing there to doing nothing and giving Karen enough time to hit him in reverse and she’s was drunk as a skunk yet she hit the target. This isn’t adding up
Perhaps he was urinating in the bushes? That would be plausible.
@@Christine005 Crossed my mind!!!
Karen Reed dropped off John her boyfriend at their house.
Karen and she waited because she felt like they really weren’t invited so John was to go in and make sure it was OK. She watched him walk to the door and he never came back or called her is why she kept calling him leaving nasty messages.
Objection. “I’m going to end the question there, Next one Mr. Lally”. How about SUSTAINED ! What a joke!
Are you attorney?
The judge is so biased
How about strike, as if the jury wont heed it anyway.
I’m not an attorney but should be one after watching so many trials. I live in Massachusetts and this case is as biased as they come.
@@mauiswift6391Everyone on yt thinks they know the law better than the attorneys and the judge.
she shakes her head yes while answering a negative question
Her explanation about why their door is unlocked is ridiculous. This is a police officer’s home with presumably guns in the house. You’re going to lock your doors at night before you go to bed. Your kids are all adults. They should have keys. They don’t lose!
Yes she was the last one down stairs. Mother.. lock the door like all.other reasonable mothers.
@@Gle7799 (Pssst ... that's not your mom.)
@@EC-dz3fb nope
@@Gle7799 🤦
Reasonable is the question. Drinking rules out that option.
The constant eye rolling by the person testifying is getting old. Just answer what you can and when told to stop, stop talking!
💯 very disrespectful for the victim family
All of her eye rolling and cheek biting says a lot .. definitely think she’s lying ..
Didn't see any eye rolling!
@@Pr3ttyGiirlALWAYS are you a body language expert?
The jury will pick up on that attitude.
this woman is very unpleasant and obviously lying
If the witness says I asked her why she was here or whatever, why was there an objection? It was what the witness said not the other person.
Because she indulged to much information they don’t want jury hearing , they defend the question once they realize why it was asked and lawyer trying leave reasonable doubts
“And I’m like ‘Jennifer, what are you talking about?’ And she’s like-“
“Objection!”
They objected when she was about to say what Jennifer said to her.
Notice how she doesnt mention Collin being there or leaving.
She literally mentioned both. She said he was there for a very very short time and that he was damn near leaving as she was coming. How did you miss that.?
She's pointing the blame at the police and in their point in the blame at her
why does his death have to either be a murder by vehicle or a huge party cover-up. there are other possibilities being completely overlooked. Like someone else hit him or got in a fight with him outside without other people knowing about it.
That's what I keep saying!!!
Have you been following the details of the case or shut your ears off ? Honestly.
Anyone with a brain knows this is a cover up - if they've actually listened to the details
@@pistolpete8231 Yeah, that ... cuz. the supposed cover up points toward what really happened!
Maybe because there's only one person that has admitted to hitting him.
@@diver291 nobody admitted to hitting him. You are inventing things. But keep believing what you want, I'm sure you'll feel better
At 5:04 mark she says everything was fine nothing out of the unusual while shaking her head no! Sorry I don’t believe a word out of her mouth. Poor Karen having to deal with this and grieving.
Do you sit on court in weekends there in USA?? Or are these taped from last week?
Taped - no court on weekends
What happened to Officer O'Keffe's belt Mr Albert? How do you loose your belt if you get hit by a car? How do you loose so much blood yet your solo cups are empty from the spots on the snow. How does he get hit at 12.45, all those people say it just started snowing, noone see's a body leaving the party and his body is found on compressed snow? And don't get me started about the footprint under the piece of taillight you found after impounding the vehicle?
and ignore the OBVIOUS dog bites on his arm. only one arm.
I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but I don’t understand how the O’Keefe’s are not saying OK Karen didn’t do this
Put yourself in their shoes. Their son/brother is dead. Violently. The last person to see him (who was also very angry at him) was Karen Read, WHO WAS DRIVING DRUNK. Karen called either them or Johns' sister-in-law and screamed "John is dead"! What if it was YOUR son, YOUR brother?
I agree with you and I totally agree they want someone held responsible. Hopefully after the trial they will see the truth.
How could they know, if it were your loved one, you would want the truth too and would have to wait til the end to know. When one is grieving and seeking justice, only the truth will do!
The Judge is not biased, she’s protecting the court from a possible mistrial.
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@@Katie-cs2hn Hows that observation working for you now?
@@rodgerosborn7124 pretty good 😂 mistrial
“My friend” Brian Higgins oops my husbands friend
I would be so furious if I was O'Keefe's family getting such a biased judge
How could Chloe, the GSD, NOT Alert when all of these ‘first responders’ showed up? I guarantee she and her husband gave that dog a bath!
Your family is guilty of knowing what happened!!! There is Noway with the injuries he had was from a car, your dog also attacked him when he tried to defend himself. And your dry mouth is a sign your scared and lying
Who in the house killed him, and why?
You should 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆 consider patenting your time machine, as well as your invisibility cloak. You'd make 𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀!
@@milart12 Brian Albert has a long history of beating people up close to death, including a firefighter.
@@milart12 Its a case of all or none, and in this case, since they were ALL in on it, they now ALL have to lie, but that is a difficult prospect on any ordinary day!
@@EC-dz3fb You should really try taking your meds. or just decide to be a normal person, making normal comments rather than annoying everyone else. You must be a real pest in real life. I'm gonna have to block you just not to see your inane comments any more!
Investigate Brian Higgins more.
All these criminals needs to be jailed for the cover up . Okeefe needs justice.
Her face tells me she's a liar!
This judge...whoa, she is something else!
That’s hearsay why is the judge allowing that?
This couple should be wearing the I am with stupid shirts when they are out together!
Karen and her lawyers are the cover up😢
She knew she hit hhim she made 52 calls to make ìt seem liked she didnt her father orders that why she eraseed thosed text because he was the first one she called.justice for the bryant family .karen and her lawyer is trying to pull a fast one but it not gona work
What’s the freaking dog have to do with anything??!! Are they implying the dog did it LOL
In watching Karen with attorneys at side bar, all alone, i can't help but be incredibly angry at these families. They have messed around with evidence, verbally abused the defendant, lied, purgered themselves, and on and on....and one or two of them killed John! I dont believe ANYTHING that comes out of their mouths. Jen is the worst actress of all her pretend tears for John are soooo fake. She just referred to him "remember that "guy" at the waterfall???? DISGUSTING
She remembers specifically on the times people left but doesn't know what her own children drive? What kind of literal scum can these people be for covering up a death? I think a drunken fight happened and they are covering it up. I don't believe it was intentional but I do believe they are scum for trying to pin their mistakes on someone totally innocent based on her distraught and nervous mutterings.
Karen yelling she hated John and his kids is eneough for me Karens Guilty as charged
I thought Caitlin's father said she left at 12:15am???
She said she stood by her story Caitlyn was one of the last ones to stay till 2am but failed to mention her to the cop whom she said only mentioned to the cop only those people who hung out after 12am.
Which one is it?
Did anyone from the Albert’s house go out to see what happened? To see their friend? To console Karen? What kind of people are they?
Nope.
criminals
Karen did it in midst of drunken argument. Evidence reflects that. She was playing with the atf dude. Both lacked respect but doesnt negate that she dumped him and left. We all know you only dump and leave party if you are pissed. Not dog attack, not snow plow, not brawl....
one of the cops in the house I see
Their dog attacked John and he fell back and hit his head…possibly down the stairs. They knew he was gravely injured and put him outside. That’s my theory.
You should 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆 consider patenting your time machine, as well as your invisibility cloak. You'd make 𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀!
@@EC-dz3fbyou’re clearly unfamiliar with the word ‘theory’.
@@8_bruh_8 And you're clearly unfamiliar with the words sarcasm and hyperbole. 🤭
@@lilithstribe yes I think that’s possible too. They seem to be downplaying how Colin would harass John about his property and his horribly disrespectful behaviour.
lol ok I play KR was smashed dropped him off cold 🥶 wind snow , John said drop me off here I’ll walk since you can drive in snow well , he was right “ she stomps the gas in 400 hp all wheel drive 80 g Lexi’s feels big bump thinks she hit curb looked around seen nothing oblivious went home passed out , few hours later realized he wasn’t home 🏠 went looking 👀 for him , found him called police 👮 OMG OMG. I HIT him I hit him , as she Frantically told anyone that would Listen 👂. Everyone quietly did there job and felt bad for KR and More for John because it was a tragedy and he suffered.
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Her mouth is very tense except when answering easy questions. Lots of blinking, shoulder shrugging, contempt smiles, eyeblocking and headshaking at the wrong times
So you are just told there was a dear friends dead body found on your lawn and taken to hospital and nobody asks Jen to take them outside and explain exactly where he was found or any details? First question I would ask if I was with Jen is where did you find him, and take her outside to show me exactly where his body was. But nobody went outside before or during their pow wow to see. Too busy formulating the cover up I guess. Bunch of Morons
This judge doesn’t know what it means “May I approach your honor?”
In the dash cam footage - a point was made of watching for the light coming on at the house. Did anyone catch which light it was that came on? I’m not fully believing this version
Downstairs light first, bedroom next. I saw that.
Yes the bedroom!!! It would be interesting to see what time that was again considering they were supposedly woken by sister in law
It's the constant lip soothing for me. Definitely looks suspicious to me. Please give the woman some water.
So nervous about her lies her mouth is dry