ATF agent testifies about flirtatious texts in Karen Read murder trial
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The Karen Read murder trial continues with witness testimony.
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I've followed this case from the beginning and aside from all the evidence, testimonies, and facts that both sides have presented. What stands out to me the most is behavior, normal vs what is not normal behavior in a scenario. Every live cop show televised in every state in the U.S. has shown when one of their own (another cop) is down or found dead, the whole police dept. is rushing to the scene ready to pounce. Their main objective is to catch the person or persons whoever did this asap. Emotions and adrenaline are running high with all the law enforcement involved because it's one of their own. Up on finding policeman John O'Keefe, the whole scene and behavior is in fact what caught my interest because it was so not normal, I first thought what the hell and just started watching it. The only normal behavior was Karen Read. She seemed to be the only one with a sense of urgency doing anything along with being hysterical because she loved the guy. Her behavior was normal, typical for what you'd expect to see in that situation. I kept thinking why is their only 2 or 3 cop cars, where's the rest of the police dept, why aren't more cops showing up frantic to nail the killer. Then I remembered the lady that called 911 she reported a man in the snow. This was the first video I had watched in this case. Later I found out the 911 caller knew the man in the snow AND knew he was a policeman, and her sister who was married to a cop lived in the house where this policeman John was found dead in their front yard. And the whole time I was watching I was thinking, why haven't they come out to help yet. Out of the house. The whole scene, the few cops there, the behavior of the 911 caller describing man in the snow instead of saying a policeman in the snow. Right off the bat I thought, this just doesn't happen this way. The way everyone but Karen was acting, you'd have thought they found an alien in that front yard instead of a policeman or one of their own.
I 100% agree with you
agreed
Yes indeed you are so right. Seems like it’s completely a cover-up for sure.
Agreed
Absolutely correct!!!!
Was the house built on the Bermuda Triangle. Everyone who entered..lost ther frign memory
This is the most accurate statement!!!!
Legit in any crime everyone looses their memories
Amazing how many police officers trained to notice things, forget everything that happened in and around that house. If I’m awake and someone pulls in my driveway, I notice and look. But all these cops “don’t recall or don’t remember” anything that conflicts the narrative that Karen did it.
Bet Higgins hit the Jameson and gingers hard after this testimony 😂
Karen was hurt that she was the primary caretaker of John’s neice and nephew and then he pulled that crap on New years then she found him hugging another woman. Clearly she was just looking for some validation from Higgins and he immediately went into asking if she wanted a relationship basically. She loved John but it was a lot for her especially since they weren’t married and she was surrounded by married people. None of that has any relavsnce to the incident and it certainly isn’t a reflection of Karen’s personality. She was feeling insecure in her relationship and was sadly looking for validation from Higgins and wasn’t expecting him to be like ok so do you want to be a couple.
Karen is a nut job. Pure and simple. She’s also a killer
That's a load of bunk
maybe john WAS jealous and went in and fight started w this guy n others stepped in and the rest is history i mean he really was not a true friend wanting karen
There was definitely a fit. The corener already said, that there was no way the injuries were from a car.
The injuries are from a fight and the injuries on his arm are from a dog.
I agree wholeheartedly with your comment!
If you say trooper proctor in the mirror 3 times a big can of white claw appears 😅
😂 u silly
made my day
I think some referred to proctor as The Canton Trooper
Who WASN'T drunk?
The dog???!!!!!! 😂😂😂
@@tobydean7097dogs lap up beer like crazy and I wouldn't put it past those people to give them the Bud Light
@@tobydean7097 LOL Maybe ..... :)
@@emgeespeaks8397😂😂😂🐕🐕🐕
They are all drinking and driving, and don’t remember anything, how do they know one of them didn’t hit him. Aside from the obvious fact that his body didn’t reflect the injuries one would have after being hit and or run over by a vehicle.
christ, they are all like high schoolers…, “let’s go back to Albert’s house to drink more!!!” YAY!!!
And some play fighting!!!! 😂
Why does the law say about drinking and driving? These law enforcement officers sure do drink.
Double standards
Agree, they are all drinking in high volume but only want to talk about Karen being drunk
Who cares. Wake up. This is the world you live. Didn’t you think cops don’t have a good time.
I swear I was just thinking 🤔 the same thing 😅😂
Doh…Karen is on trial, but I suppose you’d like everyone one else to be on trial except Karen? A Grand Jury indicted Karen, not the O’Keefe family and she needs to be held accountable for her despicable conduct causing Johns demise. Take the blinders off or we can simply indict a ham sandwich.
In the period of time around john’s death, there were too many butt-dials happens between too many people! Is that believable?
Lol they all have big Butts.
The thing is most screens lock now avoiding butt dials.
No. It’s all lies!!
Still think that? 😂 She’s a dysfunctional drunk just like all the cops, and while I don’t believe she wanted to go to prison but she killed that man.
So far he’s answering more questions. Let’s see if he continues to answer
Edit: never mind. He’s in enough heat with an FBI investigation on him
He’s being investigated? For what
@@Lookup33 I want everyone to know that this creep Higgins is being investigated by the FBI in the Karen Read case AND the Sandra Birchmore case. Officer Lank and DA Morrisey are also being investigated by the FBI in both cases. They are all being investigated for tampering with evidence, perjury and a slew of other charges. The disgusting thing is that the judge (who is friends with the Albert family) will not allow the defense to disclose the FBI investigations to the jury.
Are you kidding me Higgins? You are a two year old. Karen was just playing with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😮
HE PURSUED SHE IGNORED HIM 5 DAYS STRAIGHT BEFORE JOHN DIED HE SAID UHMM WELL ..SHE IGNORED THAT ...WAS HE REJECTED ..SCORNED??
@@debraperon6083 HIGGINS DIDN'T TRUST KAREN READ HE WAS RIGHT SHE MURDERED JOHN O'KEEFE
Every friggin one of them were drunk!!!
And most of them drove that way in a blizzard 😊
Including Karen
How old are you?
@@melodymelody3453why are you asking the age?
Boy everyone is crystal clear on Karen Read pulling a glass out of her coat that contained a clear liquid and a lime. Did Karen Read stand on a bar table to announce that she’s pulling a glass out of her coat? Ridiculous stuff this trial is.
Right? They remember almost nothing else. Insults to Karen and Karen grabbing out a contraband drink. 😂
It's memorable because it speaks of her character. She stole from the bar they had been at previously.
It’s definitely memorable when someone has outside drinks at an establishment
I personally drink sparkling water with lime in a glass … no booze
Exactly what I was thinking why was everyone focused and remembered a glass she was drinking out of .. a lot of lying going on.. the best thing yet is Jen’s googled at 2:25 weird
Shifted in his seat when basement was mentioned
The questions were awesome about the basement … what a total liar he is
scratched his neck and pulled at his collar when rolling what time he returned home, at 2am ish....
What exact time was this on the video?
Only thing worse than a lieing fed, is a drunking lieing two face fed!!😮
I'm no detective but all these people going in and out of the house and looking out the widow no one seems to have seen him laying in the yard and no one seen miss read hit him so how did the body get there
Looking out the window to see if anyone had noticed him, then act, FAKE shocked, OMG🤬
Poor John O'Keeffe 😢
Higgins is a joke. Why destroy your sim card? So much corruption in this case it’s nauseating.
Corruption? Lol
Maybe he heard the insanity of reading a cops private phone conversations to his wife and didn't want his blast out to the world. P.s....its not corruption for a private citizen to destroy their phones. I wouldn't want my private texts read aloud for the world to hear and I didn't kill anyone. Don't be such a pansy and believe everything this defense throws out there. It's so stupid actually, did you believe everything in the OJ case too ? 😂
I love the sympathy testimony Higgins is dishing out super early, mentioned his dead sister twice, not even five minutes in.
Yeah, can put it on, wavering voice 😩
HE MINIMISES HIS INTEREST IN K CONSTANTLY
It’s nuts how much they could drink! AND then drive! Yikes! 😱
Thats what all cops do . They think they are above the law
yt@@MrFrankeesh😊😊
Drunk Drivng Crimes! They obviously covered up each other's alcohol related crimes -- What else is covered up? Old Spy Craft Deception = Admit to a lesser offense to make yourself appear to be completely open and honest.
Did any of them report each other for drunk driving? Why were they not prosecuted for these crimes when they became obvious. What other crimes would they cover up and blame shift?
"The prosecution never prosecute themselves." F. Lee Bailey
I cant wrap my head around the shoddy police investigation in this case ... none of it seems anything close to standard protocal ... qhy wouldnt the pilice sieze all the cell phones of all the people involved and do their own download of communications.... all these people that were in that house either gave screenshots of whatever they felt they wanted to give or destroyed their cell phones ... how it is even possible that there is even a trial with virtually not an ounce of any legitimate investogation is absurd
Unbelievable
and they all changed their phones what a coincidence lol n threw out the old when you can get money back sometimes this is nutz if these were reg people they would of took phones went thru the house and funny he went back to the station to eat etc but not get the proper items for a crime scene
And that right there should be Reasonable Doubt
You’re friends with John but you send his then girlfriend a flirty text??? Did I hear that right?
She initiated it . What does that say bout her lol
She initiated the whole thing! He was trying to figure out what this cold narcissist wanted! Duh! Sounds like she was wanting some thing!
I’d be more concerned about Karen the killer. She’s is also a scrubber. She’s worse than I first thought
deneenstrickler6032, he a man right single a free agent, Karen was the flirt shame less
Period
Auntie Bev doesn’t want things coming out about the fighter Brian!!
and Colin?
SO 5DAYS KR DOESNT SPEAK TO HIGGINS THEN HE JUST SENDS UHM WELL......HE WAS REACHING OUT AND SHE DIDNT ANSWER
U watch the dui guy too?
If the prosecutor thinks this is a reason for Karen to kill John, lol!!!!!!!!!!!
For that matter, he would have as much a motive. 🤔 Especially with the way he joy rides his snow plow... P.S. this guy is eeewwww 🤮
Dear Mr Jackson....he just said "I was one of the last to leave".. to Mr Lalley???.Then he became 'one of the 'first to leave'...MORE purjured testimony...pants on fire 🔥
2 different nights , 2 different houses
The only good thing about this judge, is she’ll make it very easy to get a new hearing if needed.
The fact she’s allowing a trial when FBI is still investigating, tied defenses hands numerous times helped common wealth with their hiding evidence for so long. A fair trial is easy if impartial and everything is on the up and up. I hope a bunch of these people get charged since their lies are so obvious and often contradictory sometime in same sentence
Was John cheating? Not with everyone as Karen thought. Did he and Jen McCabe have a lil’ something going on? I think so. John was VERY determined to go to that after party. Last time I saw a guy that hellbent on going somewhere, it was my Ex. Guy nearly ran me over when I tried to step in front of him. He had to go shoot the breeze with his Bruh’s, ya’ know? Very similar vibes & situation. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, was going to stop my Ex from leaving that night. Not even ME. Being dead doesn’t make you a saint. you can be a great dad, brother, son, & friend. and a NOT so great boyfriend. John? Yeah, he’s a great guy. Just ask the long term bachelors ex GF’s . Wish they’d both moved on & not drank so much.
Ana Maria I have another theory: After Karen ghosts Higgins, he tells that family what she did. Drunks do that stuff! They didn't like Karen, now, they hate her. So the plan is to humiliate Karen in front of John at the house. That's why Jen say" you are coming with me, its a surprise!" To make sure she comes! But Karen and John go to the house in Karen's car, outside she doesn't want to go in! She tells John it's because Higgins is after her and she shows him the Well??? Text. Well, John bolts from the car and attacks Higgins, a fight ensues and he drags John to the basement. The other plan has been foiled and John is half dead. Karen is outside thinking John will come out. Jen is making phony texts to him, but she never texts Karen, although she sees her outside. The plan to frame her begins, because they all agree in their drunken stupor that she deserves this. They put John where Karen's car was last seen. Jen is the queen of lies and the creator of the first plan to out Karen in front of John, for her own benefit. The dog goes with Alberts daughter because Brian A doesn't want her barking when the body is found. He can say they slept through it.. But you must remember, had Karen never played with fire by contacting Higgins, who she rightfully thought was attracted to her. John would be alive today! She does have some responsibility, it was an immoral deed for attention that ended in tragedy.
He said someone he liked but was getting ready to bang his girl no honor at all and he’s a special agent disgusting
He can't keep his story straight. Higgins, were you in New York in February on January?
Even if the relationship was winding down, and they were flirting, does that make her a killer? This whole thing makes no sense, every person left that house, noone saw him?
John's niece and nephew are going to testify about their relationship. Karen wanted John to be something he wasn't
None saw anything? So they say?!!! 🤔🤔🤔
I think KR flirted with Higgins because she was upset with Okeefe but that doesn't mean she's a murderer.
J O'Keeffe was murdered in basement of 34 Fairview rd.canton!
You are right Linda, I don't believe she is a murderer, either, but at 42 years old, you are mingling with excessive drinkers and people who are numb to violence, due to their profession. You do something to ignite emotions between them for fun? We don't even know who confronted who? Whatever! It all went bad. She knows she has some responsibility, she isn't a teenager. That's why she went on suicide watch.
Karen Read was telling everyone about the Aruba Vacation. John and Karen were always arguing
I think it shows she was looking for a new boyfriend and was checking him out.
Women don't message other men like that without a love interest motive.
This is not a good look for her.
So watched more of the testimony and I was spot on.
Once a women sets her sights on a new man, their attitude towards their current love interest turns very cold.
Every man whose been in this situation knows this.
John was now a burden and her feelings were not for him anymore.
Very damning circumstantial evidence of motive and lack of concern after she ran her car into John.
The Judge may as well work for the Police depmt. She actually sustained an objection before the defense had finished the question. She's on auto-pilot to sustain every objection from the cop lawyer.
Sad this is happening in our court rooms?!!!
He prob hit him with his stupid plow..sayn he was bein a smart arse..clearin driveway..karen flirted with him Please!!!
This PA is soooo boring lol
I know I can’t even listen to him
GUILTY
Yeah The Circle of Trust..case Closed
Not guilty!
We will never know exactly why but John almost immediately walking into the Albert’s got attacked by dog and 2-3 men. He’s a police officer so he’s not going to go down easy. They pulled his unconscious body through the basement out the bulkhead and to the curb by his belt which is why the belt was never found. Cuz their DNA would be all over it. He had multiple skull fractures which would indicate multiple blows and his eyes and nose were beaten to the point his eyes couldn’t be seen. He also had a laceration on the back of his head. A car backing into a person can not creat those injuries. It’s physically impossible. Mr. Higgins is very tall and I am wondering how she alone kissed him. How’s that possible? He sounds pretty upset about Karen not texting him any further then being at the bar with him had to have stung. If he was a good friend to John he wouldn’t be trying to get into a relationship with her. He was a guy and she is out of his league.
Oh. Ok. A LEO supposedly involved in a MURDER thought it would be a good idea to dispose of the body on his front lawn. Riiiiiiiiight. Have another vat of KoolAid.
Now that’s true crime
If you were drinking that night. It is two years later how much can you remember. I tried it but I couldn't remember
Agree with possibilities...she ignored him for 5 days and he texted uhm well.... scorned? rejected? ego? who knows ....young girl said when Colin got home John wasnt there ..iow he HAD BEEN....Time of his drop off? matches??
BS this commonwealth and judge shutting Allen Jackson mr Jackson up
Jackals Jackson
Both attorneys are obnoxious and turned me off. The jury?
Jackson is blaming witnesses They are not on trial. Karen Read is on trial.
How could it be possible that Higgens didn’t respond to the text from KR “John died”????
Exactly
Idk much about this case yet, but this man reeks of insecurity. Those texts are cringe AF, he could dry up Niagara Falls.
I think O’Keefe got out of the car, walked into that house, confronted, Higgins… it got physical, they all jumped in, and beat O’Keefe’s ass half to death, realized they were all screwed, cleared the party out in a calm and controlled manner.. then tossed O’Keefe out onto the front yard close to the street.
You are delusional. HIggins wasn't even dating Karen. John and Karen were breaking up. She would not inspire that kind of passion in either man to kill for her. Get it?
@@dawnmills6755and you know this how?
Oh OK. Because a LEO would certainly think it’s a good idea to dump the guy’s body he was supposedly just involved in killing on his own front lawn. Have another vat of KoolAid.
Don’t forget the vehicle that was blocking the view where no one could see John body being drug out.
@@dawnmills6755I know. How’s these people thinking that Karen is all that. I reckon this copper eventually worked her out. John wasn’t as lucky. He was stuck with the bunny boiler.
The most boring texts ever. This is flirting?
That's what I was thinking! My dog can flirt better!!!! 😂
@@tobydean7097 🤣🤣
Embarrassing and the victim's brother is sat right there.
Higgins also got rid of phone data, Brian Albert claimed he never received the state letter to keep his phone (letter was not sent certified by the state , just stupid) which he exchanged for a new phone the day before date to keep. His wife got the ok by police to erase "so called" personal data between she and her daughter !!! Albert's dog gets "rehomed," slab floor in basement gets broken up, house is sold. It just goes on and on.
The letter came after the date.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@caroljacques4243 Therefore they were warned of the intended confiscation before the letter arrived! 🙌
I bet he was in the remedial reading group in elementary school.
Not following this case regularly but my gut says she’s innocent.
She's been framed bedtime...by the Boston police
This is like an episode of the Beverly Hillside Billys.
Somebody get rid of this judge who is clearly against the defendant is she part of all of this ?? Jackson is limited to # of questions ??? Total BS
I learned early on the judge is referred to as aunt Bev by the Abert family. I think this is why the defense ask the judge to recuse herself but she wouldn't. If the judge and Albert family are not related you would still assume they are all close.
I have a feeling that both Karen and the cops and their families played some part in John's death. The cover-up seems to be real, but it is not clear what exactly they have been covering up. And Karen's impulsivity and emotional instability, couple with her being p*** off with John and being drink indicate that she her Lexus did possibly made a contact with John, but not-fatally. His extensive injuries are probably due to the dog clawing at him, which the locals witnessed from the house and then tried to cover up their part in the eventual sad outcome. May be a someone's son or daughter did see John injured and dying, but did not tell anyone right away (seeing how drunk they all were, any one of them could pass out at any time), and so now they all "must" safe that idiot's "young life", especially because they all believe that Karen is "crazy"
Here we go with the I can't remember!!!
wtf did she see in this dude
Financial stability, security and no kids that weren't her own to look after.
Pro tip: women value more than just good looks.
@@workhorse7134 pro tip …he’s a liar ..🤥
@@workhorse7134 😳
@@workhorse7134pro tip: she has a PHD in finance she could take care of herself
A hook up. He has s appeal.
WONDERING WHAT THE NEW BUYERS OF THE HOUSE ACTUALLY SAW IN BASEMENT OR KITCHEN UPON PURCHASE .....CLD BE A SHOCKER.....
Is this judge for real?
she sustains all the important questions that will put them under your a atf agent n don’t know you can’t use govt property for personal use??😂
GHOSTED YES BOOM!! HIGGINS SAID UHM WELL..... WERE GHOSTED AND REJECTED
“What I drink ALL THE TIME Jameson and ginger” 👮♂️
😂😂😂
Clearly this guy is not a husband material … his vocabulary sounds like that of a player
ROMANTICALLY AWKWARD AND INSECURE YES
I got extreme insecure vibes from him and like he probably has erectile issues.
@@anonymoususer4866. 😂😂😂
This guy is dirty just like most of the others.
I say the KR girl's a damned user and a liar!
They text like they're in the seventh grade. It shows no class. What a shame this was going on behind John's back just before he died.
Not guilty
Come on people?! Everyone remembers KR pulling a glass from her jacket?! This is ridiculous?!!!
I’d like to ask Higgs mom if his face gets red when he lies!
He’s clearly lying about his own prior statements?!!!! The attorney confronted him about it! 😮😮😮
Good ole Sergeant Rizz taking the stand here. Am I right? 😂😂
Lally asks the stupidest questions!!!
I’m not judging anyone .. especially not in sad situation like this …Karen never wanted kids, and John probably doesn’t care to be a dad either ( at 46 he didn’t have any child of his own). Clearly she was frustrated with the situation she found herself … having to be a mum which was not something she never wanted. Her frustration turned into anger towards John as expressed in her text convo with Higgins .. and as we all know alcohol makes ppl do crazy stuff .. even to loved ones.
This case saddens me so much for John & Karen’s future “ we should learn when to walk away “
Sounds like John wasn’t really ready for fatherhood either, even if he wanted to do the right thing.
I wouldn't be surprised...if Higgins is trying to help the damsel. What actually did happen...between the two of them...when KR...went to his home? None of our business, but.... Perhaps more than was admitted...and perhaps found...by JOK. Perhaps they fought...before he even made it into the house....was clipped by her...and Higgin's...is helping with the cover??
This defendant is something else! Kiss from Karen. Hmmmm . They’ve been all traitors of John not friends
They were not close friends. Really just acquaintances.
This is like pulling teeth without numbing to hear how much they silence the defense. I love the defense team. They are amazing. You should see how much Mr jackson interacts with the little girl that’s always outside for Karen. Idk who she is but she’s always there. Karen brings her toys. Mr. Jackson is all in with his heart when he speaks to her. Karen hugs her it’s beautiful
❤❤❤ love hearing this.
Alan Jackson got Kevin Spacey off on sexually assaulting a busboy in 2016. And in case you live under a rock and think Kevin Spacey would never do a thing like that, he’s on the fly AND guest list of a certain private resort now infamous for sex crimes against children. Jackson was a prosecutor in LA for years where pedophilia and child sex trafficking has been rampant, yet I know of NOT ONE CST CASE HE WENT AFTER. I wouldn’t let that sleaze bucket -OR Karen Read- within 200 yards of a kid.
That has nothing to do with inside a court. He’s a bully and he’s losing. His client is a bunny boiler and defending someone like that must not be easy.
I agree with the reply about that one defense attorney being a bully. I've commented on it before. He seems so shocked that a person can't remember a minor detail like what exact wording a person used to search something in Google...2 years ago. Really?
Auntie Bev, is that wig a new model from, I’m too lazy to do my hair. So obvious!
Dang this guy seems like he’s madly in love with Karen😳 he’s kind of attractive. How has he stayed single that long with no kids? And hows a successful guy like this have such low self esteem?
Attractive???? 😮
Everyone inside the house was distraught but none went outside to see what was happening???? Yeah right they were distraught! That was very disrespectful to JO?!!!!
Shows her faithfulness to John. She's not a who chi
Higgins memory is perfect when describing the glass and when karen and john arrived. But his memory goes away when it comes to his discarded cell phone
Why doesn’t Lally ask why he never responded to Karen’s text “john died”?!!!! We know why!
What shit show this is.He’s playing Romeo on the government’s time? It’s nice to know he’s an honest and trustworthy agent
Where did it say anything about him playing Romeo on gov time? Texts during work aren't uncommon.🤦♀️Its nice to know that Karen was a sneaky, player who was not being right to John or bryan.
Oho now he don’t recall when he’s joking about hiding a body
Can someone please explain what is that device the court lady is using on her mouth
She is the court reporter! It’s called a Stenomask.They speak directly into the mask. I believe all info gets translated from voice to text. It’s also blocks out any background noise ! No one can hear what she is saying.
As far as I know, that is basically a microphone (insulated from the outside by that face-fitting "muzzle") into which she repeats everything said in the court. The "muzzled" lady is a court reporter, and this method or recording is an alternative to the more traditional stenography.
She's a stenographer recording what everyone says she repeats it into the mic instead of the old typing steno
@@jengapaws wow thank u! Didn’t know there was another way other than typing
@@SK_TorON great thank u
I guess I have to lose my nice caring loyal guy personality and go with the selfish cheating backstabber image to find someone nowadays.
The fact that her party was a huge disappointment to her hits hard.
I am autistic. I have had this happen to me too, even as an adult, more than once. My medical school graduation party was probably one of the worst days of my life because no one showed up and I was so sad.
To know she had to suffer through a similar experience her last day alive kills me.
1:04:37 a lot of stuttering and stammering going on here
You can kiss someone and still be in love with another!!!!! Grow up people!!!! 😅
He is sooo guilty ...my god...body language people...body language!!
I'll admit to being an amateur detective....but....where are we able to see the full 59 pages of dialogue?
Oh come on why aren't the dates and times on those damn text messages?? They should absolutely never been allowed in they look like somebody sat down and just typed them.
Did Higgins turn over his cell phone????
He destroyed his old phone that he was using when JO died
Karen wanted a relationship with this gentleman and it didn’t work out for her.
YET SHE AVOIDED HIM FOR 5 DAYS BEFORE JOHN DIED , HIGGING REACHED OUT SHE DIDNT ANSWER HIM
In his dreams only
Higging thouht john was a great guy and friend but went silent when she text he died...🧐🧐🧐🧐
Very suspicious behavior????
These text messages make no sense at all... There's most obviously missing texs...
Yes! He had his IT friend "help" with the missing texts!
You left through the breezeway which leads right straight to the garage where JO laid until he was moved to the front yard. And you were a part of JO being beaten to death because of your jealousy of JO whose GF was Ms Read.
Could Paul O'Keefe and his wife...hear what Yanetti and KR were speaking about....given that they were so close in proximity?
I have a problem with evidence that is not submitted or allowed...
He says he's owned the property since 2018 but the question was how long have you lived there. Just because you pay property taxes doesn't necessarily mean that's your residence. I'm watching out for this evasive Witness😮
Probably trained how to lie on the job!!!!
“A cop got shot in the head and I am going to Nashville!!!! You guys should come?!!!!” 😢
Alana Jackson exposes higgin's temper in this cross. Higgins was attracted to Karen and officer Okeefe was in the way.
I don’t think it makes Karen look good that she just sits there day after day not showing any emotion
I really don't think whatever way she looks will look right. She's damned if she does smile and damned if she don't. It has to be very stressful for her to be fair to have to go through all this.
What the hell do you want her to do?????????
It's because she's guilty and cold and calculated and entitled!
Karen brought this on herself
However if she was showing any normal emotions or reaction people wld pick that apart
Criminal with a badge.
I'm confused. Forgive me. But is she charged with Murder as in running over him or hit and run rather? Or accidental death possibly.
She was charged with second degree murder which required proof of intent (to kill John). She was also charged with involuntary manslaughter, which requires proof of reckless or negligent conduct.
Describing her as a beautiful woman is bit much.
I’d be considered guilty if someone went by how I talk
12:56:20 ~ Lally is such a liar, he asked Mr. Wolfe if he was aware there 37 mph wind gusts at around 12:30am. All the weather data shows no wind gusts at that time, wind speed was about 9mph and wind gusts were 0. In fact the wind gusts were 0 until 2:34 AM 29th Jan. this info can be found at Weather underground historical weather
dozens of people being accused just like accusing John, somebody left John to die instead of reporting he would have lived
Could cuts on arm be from plow?
The snow plower who is going to testify he didn't see anyone. He does not want prison time. His vision was impaired with the snow blowing around. Pushing the snow onto John
Are you referring to the plow that Higgins said he had on his vehicle because I was wondering the same thing.
who was the guy in the video with Okeefe, running around wanting to "play fight " in the bar?
I would like to know this too!