MA v Karen Read: Kerry Roberts Describes Finding John O'Keefe's Body
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- Kerry Roberts, a friend of the victim who helped Karen Read look for John O'Keefe, testified about finding the police officer's body in the snow and performing CPR on him.
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She is the only witness for the prosecution who has shown any sadness and regret for this death.
I agree and she's believable x
@@y-c840 She's only believable because Allen Jackson didn't get a hold of her... Wake up people.... A vehicle didn't create that beating John O'KEEFE got
Oh the one that knew him most shocker
You knew him and we closer to him than anyone. Also John’s parents.
I don't think it's a matter of knowing John or his parents, obviously we want the Jury to listen to the evidence and bring real justice for all involved, we don't know the truth, only those directly involved that night and sadly John's no longer here to give his account. I'm a parent of course my heart hurts watching both sets of parents, however John's parents will never talk to or see their son again, I just never want to be in their position, for their and everyone's sake, the truth must be told and leave no doubt, that will fester inside their heads forever more, watching from Scotland xx
So far she is the most reliable witness; and really showed loved for her friend that she lost
Really it's not what I see at all
Then you are blind.
Yes, she really loved that "mound of snow"
I dont see that her testimony is diff than from Jen
Her loud snuffling into the mic and dabbing at her face before she could muster a tear is what I see and hear.
The best witness yet, By FAR! Honesty comes so easy when you are just telling the truth and not covering up anything or for anyone.
But this testimony is consistent with all of the others, John O Keefe never entered the house and was run over by a drunken Karen Read.
@@milart12 Explain the scratches on his arm and the black eyes 🤔 FREE KAREN READ 💕 oh and CANTON has a serious BUTT DIAL situation going on 🤣
@@Hayden-me2gi Why do you focus on silly miscellanea? And since when did you become an expert on injuries from automobile accidents? The Karen Read backers are contemptible ignorami.
@@milart12 Just like your stupid self.... The FEDS are the ones who said the injuries didn't come from a vehicle DUMMY and learn how to spell Genius oh and FREE KAREN READ 💕😘
@@milart12 I see nobody liked your post 🤔💀😩🤣
I really liked this witness. Straight forward, to the point, and capable of answering the questions. I believe her.
I do too
She is well liked, until Allen Jackson brings out the evilness in her like he has all the other liars
@@Hayden-me2gi defense had no cross.
@@lynn2574 And that's why she's believable.... They should have cross examined her.... All those people are friends and affiliates with law enforcement! They are all liars. FREE KAREN READ the beautiful college professor 💕
@@Hayden-me2giThey didn’t even cross examine her. They went so hard on JM for making KR tell their line, then they don’t question her at all? That looks super weak to me.
Kerry Robert’s just killed it!!!! Believable from the beginning! No wonder Jen said she talked too much🤣 She talks too much because she speaks the effin TRUTH!!!!
She lies like 💩onald trump the🤡
Just another slimey Canton snake.
Definitely much more likeable than Jen, but I think she tells the “truth” she is told by others controlling the narrative.
It’s clear to me that Karen probably thought John was cheating on her and that was the reason he didn’t come home. Anyway, their smoking gun seems to be that Karen “knew” where he was because she saw John in the snow before anyone else. But…Karen wasn’t driving and had the entire time to search the roads, and they both admitted that they told Karen to be looking at the sidewalks and outside for him. It makes sense for the “searcher” to see him first because she’s not worried about road conditions.
Too bad defense didn’t cross her! I’d really like to know about those meetings with Jen and Trooper Lank. Maybe they’ll call her as a defense witness?
Yes
She rehearses. Why u think the defense ignore her is like talking to JM again
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Kerri comes across truthful and appropriate with her emotions, the complete opposite of Jen McCabe
But her testimony is virtually identical to Jen McCabe's. Why do you find Kerri's testimony "truthful", but not Jen Mccabe's?
Different person altogether. Jen's a strong tough cookie. I loved her Mama bear strengthx
@@milart12especially, considering that Kerri’s testimony helped to corroborate Jen’s.
@@JRM1790 Exactly
McCabe is so bitter and full of hatred towards KR. In my opinion the Alberts and Co. are all involved in the killing, they are protecting the one who punched him to death.
Why would she say did I hit him if she seen him going inside the house? Why would that even be a question
She was DRUNK! Prob still hungover
"Did I hit him?" is a very strange thing for Karen Read to say, as was her spotting his body from the car under 4 inches of snow, and her general, frantic demeanour. Sadly I think she did this, in a drunken, impulsive act.
@@glamdolly30the picture the defense shoes here it was pretty close for her to see.
Because kw lied !
Kerry Roberts is a very straightforward witness. Good person.
She’s telling the truth
She came across so truthful that Jackson just laid down and couldn't even cross her because he was going to sink his claws into her and realized what a jerk he was going to look like. He had nothing. He was red faced because he was embarrassed that he has been part of this nonsense. He put out the info to the youtube media and spearheaded these acts of stalking and harassment. What a dick.
She’s the only credible witness I’ve listened to through this whole trial who is genuine and credible.
Serious! That's not what I see at all
Kerry wasn't at the house party, so she has no reason to be defensive. Jmcabe is the real talker stalker. She sure likes to be involved in alot of things
My heart breaks for her having to relive that night. I believe she is speaking the truth.
Karen called her at 5 in morning saying John is dead, it tells right there . Jan wasn’t in pictures them
KR: ‘I said, “They’re working on him! They’re working on him!” And at one point Karen grabbed the front of my jacket and screamed in my face and said, “Are they working on him? Is he alive?” And I said, “They’re working on him! They’re working on him! They wouldn’t be working on him if he was dead!” And then she had a hold hands and pray and then at some point she had blood on her hands and she was…she told us she had her period. So I think she was just in a state of shock maybe. We said, “No, that’s not your blood, that’s John’s.”’ This account is the compelling, vivid truth, the repeated “They’re working on him!”, the grabbing of the jacket, the holding hands to pray, being threads of hope against desperation; the final detail concerning the confusion in Karen Read’s mind about the blood and her period you COULD NOT MAKE UP and shows GENUINE DISORIENTATION. Shock and horror leave her acutely DISTURBED as her brain protects her from trauma through DISSOCIATION. In this VULNERABLE STATE she then compulsively reiterates QUESTIONS which have subsequently been used to construct an edifice of lies against her.
Wowza well written & said
Huh? The wackiest pro Karen read post. And there are a LOT of them.
@@milart12 Wackiest. Wack. A favoured term of Proctor, who applies it to the (female) Medical Examiner and repeatedly to Read herself as in, ‘We’re gonna lock the wack-job up!’ 9 June 2022 4.56 pm. So, in this context, the term ‘wackiest’ one could say is a sign of a Proctor mentality.
@@phiggins54 You're right. You and Karen Read belong together
@@milart12 Thanks, but I think the name Higgins kind of rules me out!
The important question is not how much snow was on top of John O'Keefe's body. The important question which Lally was careful not to ask was how much snow was *under John O'Keefe's body. The answer in testimony from a paramedic on Day 7 was approx 6 inches of snow was under John's body.
Yet there is general agreement the snow was just beginning to fall when Karen Read dropped John off at the Albert's and allegedly hit him.
Kerry said there is grass no snow under JO
And let's not forget the mound of snow they plowed the area to set his body there vile ppl!
@@becksdom1120 so the paramedics are lying...?
Their stories don’t add up.
It's interesting that the men are all police officers...but the women are looking for him driving around...
Doesn't make any sense...like it was planned for Jen to go looking for him...
great point
It was Karen who asked to go look for him and it's strange she knew exactly where he was even though he had 4" of snow covering him. No one else would have found him.
This lady is telling the truth. First witness to show emotion for loss of her friend. No wonder Jen was reporting back to group text “she’s telling them everything” yeah lady that’s called the truth. She responding quickly and didn’t skip through half questions. Give me some faith back in humanity.
Exactly
Why Would She Say Get Hit By A Snow Plow !
What a sad sad situation
Karen should have never been driving that night. 🍻 🍻 🍻
This is why you dont drink and drive
Or any of the cops, they were all driving drunk.
🤡
Hey, when in Rome 🤷♂️😂
"Hos long to die in cold " Jenn McCabe @2:27AM✅ and 6:23AM✅
Everyone said she didn’t drink that much and she seemed sober. What if she drank after she got home?
“ But vehicle data from Read’s SUV showed that at 12:45 a.m., while outside Albert’s home, the Lexus traveled backward for 60 feet at 24 mph, Lally said. The SUV’s tail light was broken, Lally said, and pieces of the light were later found outside Albert’s home. Forensic testing showed that O’Keefe’s hair was found on the vehicle’s bumper and his DNA was found on the taillight, Lally said. Investigators also found the remnants of a cocktail that appears to have been spilled on the bumper, the prosecutor said. O’Keefe was captured on video leaving the bar with a cocktail in his hand, and bits of what the prosecutor described as a drinking glass were found in the SUV’s bumper. “ Gonna be hard to overcome these facts.
LMFAOOOO not when evidence is planted and tampered with. Their “experts” are not credible sooooo….. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So if they would have gone directly to 34 Fairview as Karen Read had wanted after Jennifer McCabe brought it up instead of them going back to the house and all the delays these two "friends" caused, would John still be alive?
Jenn must be regretting it right now. Would’ve, Could’ve, and maybe only God would knows.
Why do the husbands let the wives go out in a snow storm?...the men did nothing to find John??.. everything in this case has been reasonable 🧐 doubt
Agree! This entire case reminds me of the movie The Beguiled......so many women professing their love for John Okeefe. Weird!
O ly if you want it to, it's pretty straight forward, and what wife let's her husband tell her if she can or can't do something. Not like they were going out of town!
Haha! I have been saying that for years!! Real men are rare or gone
John has a parade of women testifying on his behalf. By all means he was a seasoned bachelor. Not married & no kids of his own. He was tall, handsome & I’m sure the envy of the men whose wives swooned over the man he shown to be.
It's popular to think Karen's innocent when she's obviously guilty.
There is a difference what happens to the brain/skull when you are hit with something, vs. falling and hitting your head on something hard. The latter has a rebound effect and the other doesn't. His injuries sound like he fell and cut the back of his head and the brain hit the front of his skull causing the brain bleed and eye swelling. Wonder if the dog attacked his arm and he fell backwards down those concrete steps and stumbled toward the street before he fell unconscious. It does not make sense that his head would be sticking out to get hit at taillight-level by an SUV. THAT seems very unlikely.
@Nocomment950except the fbi said no way was this mans injuries from a car impact
Fbi said that?
@@becksdom1120 yes. They've said the car damage was not caused by it hitting a person and the damage to JO was not from a vehicle. Period. It's been a huge part of the defense pre trial so it will no doubt be brought in by them when they begin their case.
@Nocomment950 Karen's SUV, the car with supernatural powers... it can bite, scratch, beat up a police officer... must be a reincarnation of Christine 🤔
Anticipate forensics to recreate the scene and expect the autopsy to uncover the truth, hopefully!
Very credible and likeable lady and nothing like the disparaging comments Jen McCabe said about her. A real lady who genuinely has ptsd about the night of the tragedy but she never said Karen said I hit him I hit him I him. She asked if she’d hit him? The only person that said I hit him is Jen and the paramedic who is a good friend of the Albert’s. It’s all about reasonable doubt?
Yep and Jen even added that statement to the car ride which shocked me because she didn't say it on the first day, she added it in.
How many people left the house that night?..not one person saw him laying on the lawn. Not one!..which can only mean he wasn't there!..Karens car had already been seen out front. People were leaving while she was parked in front. Where was John?..she said she saw him walking toward the side door, yet everyone said he never came into the house..
Look out in your yard tonight and see how dark it is and what you can see. Not much if there is no street light.
So so sad hearing Karen. The whole thing had to be traumatic..she’s the only one emotional at the scene. It’s got to be so hard to relive this over and over. Prayers 🙏🏻
Well maybe she needs to relive it over and over since she's the one who hit him and left him there.
@@jaynepetersen454 my girlfriend lost her teen daughter to a drunk driver...I can still hear her wailing 30 years later. It ruined her life. Karen had no right to be driving that car. Look how she sits in court like she is empty of any humaness.
As traumatic this is for KR , she sure is putting John's elderly parents through hell. Her actions have effected so many lives. Her actions, and now her lies. Idk how she lives with herself.
@@jaynepetersen454if she is found guilty i do not see her " accepting" the sentence. If you know what i mean. Idk what she was thinking bringing Hollywood to New england. We dont like his kind around here.
She seems fine
"How did she kick the door?"
"With her feet."
Lawyers can ask some dumb questions.
He asked, "How hard did she kick the door".
@@Krystal_Kleerhe asked how she kicked the door.
@@estrella5935 he misspoke and corrected himself. Is this really worth arguing about? We all know what he meant, quit being petty 🙄
@@Krystal_Kleer he corrected himself because he realized how dumb the question was. Even Kerry thought it was ridiculous. Everything Lally says is quite moronic 😂
@@estrella5935 Can't argue with you there. He's a terrible prosecutor for sure.
No court today?
I’m losing IQ points reading the chat comments.., 😮
An absolute cesspool 😅
14:02 She saw him before the driver did because the driver is focused on driving after a snow storm. It makes total sense to me.
She knew exactly where he was..
Karen’s innocent
@@LouiseSmith-sh6mo The evidence doesn't show it.
This is the most bizarre case
@@yogabee2222 I think they thought they got it easy when she asked if she had hit him. When she backed out, they had lost the opportunity to really investigate and are now struggling. I am not convinced that she did it, not because I don’t think she wouldn’t be able to, but because the injuries don’t match with a broken headlight with no other damage, and the potential speed she could have reached backing up in such a short distance. If her car is that amazing, I want that car.
I think this is horrible a man has died and nobody knows what happened.
Someone knows 😮
someone will eventually "flip"....more will come out...wait and see
oh they know.
What a ridiculous statement. Of COURSE SOMEONE knows.
Jesus, how awful!!! Poor John! I feel so bad for him and his family! This girl seems like the only normal witness and with the appropriate emotion unlike EVERY OTHER so called friend that has testified!!!!!
I believe maybe the Sullivan sisters are carrying a grudge against Karen Read because John chose Karen as his official girlfriend. John apparently was not a marrying type of guy and may have left some broken hearts behind....
You could well be right, some ppl just base aren’t
I can see that… good call.
I have a feeling Jen Mcabe is in this camp.
I got those vibes &
I’m sure most women did through this testimony.
John referred to Karen read as a babysitter with benefits and called her crazy. He had many girlfriends and she was jealous crazy!
Poor Karen. She really does sound so frantic, upset, and frightened. These people do not sound comforting and reassuring like friends.
The video shows their lack of empathy. They treated her like a leopard.
lol like a leper, not leopard 😂 if she were a leopard I bet they’d have thought twice about ganging up on her
She is frantic, upset and frightened because she is the one who ran him over.
Stop don’t be logical you’ll hurt KR people feelings
In the very beginning, I thought it might be possible that she was at fault but it sure doesn’t look that way to me now.
The tail light was gone before they found the body!
Still makes no sense.
Because it was broken when read hit him then she went home and woke up and then went to look for home . Don’t forget when drunk you don’t remember anything
Cant believe the judge sustains objections to general questions.
how is it that only Read saw John when it was only a mound of snow to everyone else????
That is the question of the day. I think she knew he was there and was pretending to look for him. Of course she had witnesses with her as an alibi.
I think that's a huge smoking gun to Read's guilt. She saw him laying under 4 inches of snow from the back of the car, but the driver and front seat passenger didn't? Then she's hysterical and says "Did I hit him?" That's pretty much a confession.
Can’t believe a cops house didn’t have a ring camera , something, anything.
All the houses in that small town did not have their door cameras on. It is a cover-up. Karen did not hit him. Karen dropped John off at the Albert's house for the party, then she went home. At the party a fight broke out in the basement. They wanted to blame Karen because Albert's run the whole town. The judge is very good friends with the Albert's. She
The judge also hangs with the Albert's even at their vacation home.
They said they were there early morning. The snowplow driver said John's body was in the yard at 3: 30 in the morning. I heard people say they know who beat John up in the basement . Albert's rescued their dog in Texas and had the dog for 6 years. The house been in the family for about 50 years got rid of dog. dug up the basement redone it. Put the house up for sale.
They all corrupt
@@KathleenHelms-nq1vk Not to mention the fact that Brian Albert literally got rid of his phone the day before the court order to seize it went through. He couldn't recall so many things when he was being cross-examined, but when he told the story about "upgrading his phone," he specifically said that on September 22nd he got a new phone. September 23rd was the day that the court order to seize the phone went into effect. Odd that he remembered the specific date, but couldn't remember specifics on other very important details. Also, his friend "upgraded his phone" right before his phone was to be seized as well. Brian Albert also played dumb the entire time and acted as if he had zero clue that he was effectively destroying evidence by getting rid of his phone. I just think there is far too much reasonable doubt to convict KR on murder charges. Our justice system is grossly corrupt.
Second reference to KR being "crazy" today and the other was from OKeeffe himself according to Marietta
Not that crazy to still be with her a month later..
@@yogabee2222he told her to leave & she just wouldn't take the hint
Don't forget K Read's first words to her sister-in-law..before she dumped her forever.. "We have to remember the bad times." Guilty!
Also he was covered in a mound of snow. Karen runs over lifted her shirt layed on him to get him warm. But she comes over and uncovers his face which had 4ft of snow on it?? Make that make sense!!!!
mound of snow to a brushing off face? i dont believe her
@@annemerritt3722 same! This should never have been to trial!
If Karen disclaims she had the amount of drinks the prosecution says she had and that everything was great that night at the waterfall, then why not just knock on the Albert’s door and ask for John? Why call him 53x and not just go up to the house?
Robert’s “It woke up my husband. who was sleeping” Im glad she loves to hear herself talk because she’s trying too hard to convince people that she’s telling them the truth.
Yet they both slept through the first phone call. Such liars.
Yes!!!! Lies!!!!!
I agree. Not to worry, the defense has "got this"
I thought Jen McCabe calling JOs phone was to try to locate t
his phone but Kerry had already given it to an unknown cop. Did the McCabes not know this ?
Jen called John's phone at 12:30 am the prior night before he was dead. Kerry found the phone next morning when John was already dead
Jen wanted to erase the calls when she was trying to find John's phone. LOL
She said she never deleted any messages. She said she was butt-dialing John.
Where is the doctor who can tell us once and for all if the body was beat up or ran over by a vehicle! The scratches seemed like they were caused by an animal. I don't believe any of these people.
The garage door at johns was closed by his friend manually before water fall gathering, as it was stuck open. When the girls showed up in AM it was open again.
"Hos long to die in cold?" Jen McCabe @2:27AM✅ 6:23AM✅
the mcalbert backers cant seem to explain this..! Even JM cant, not with any credibility anyway, lol
Why when someone is worried about their boyfriend's well being would you be talking about his old girlfriends and asking if John could be with them? And why did Kerry put John's phone in her pocket. Aren't you supposed to leave crime scene alone
The fact that John was found in one shoe tells me, he went into the Albert's house. Jenn and Karrie both testified that John didn't wear shoes in his house, so they knew to take them off when they went inside his home looking for him. John must of took his shoes off before entering the Albert's home just like he does at his house. I think something went down while he was getting ready to leave and putting his shoes on. I would focus on that if I was the defense. Jenn even acted like it was wrong that Karen didn't take her shoes off when they went looking at his house(as a way of claiming Karen knew John was dead) but in reality it makes her look guilty that there is some or deal with her wanting to emphasize that Karen didn't take her shoes off at John's home when looking for him but not the fact that John was only found in one shoe.
@Nocomment950 hilarious
How did Karen see John O'Keefe's body if it was covered by snow? It seemed she knew where to look????
I agree with other comments here. Kerry Roberts appeared to be sincere, believable and level-headed, and even though she calls herself "a Talker", she answered appropriately. She showed genuine grief when recalling the occasion that they found him in the snow. Jen McCabe, on the other hand, was argumentative, talked way too much, wouldn't answer the questions and showed no respect towards the Defence team.
defense team are pukes
Kerry was an excellent witness, Jen was too, Kerry hasn't been subjected to all the harassment that Jen had, that's why her demeanor was calmer, also she wasn't crossed. When she mentioned that Karen said that John was dead at 5:00 am that was wow, no wonder they did not cross-examine her.
jm was a shitty witness...seriously bad
Poor Karen.... They talked about her like they never liked her! These people are disgusting
No they were John’s friend and I can hear why
@@mazg47g88 Your sick just like them... John O'KEEFE was bitten by a German shepherd and beaten by Brian and Colin and that's THAT
@@mazg47g88 and I never said they were FRIENDS..... Read before you comment
@mazg47g88 you mean “that guy” as Matt McCabe called him?
I did read your comment I meant they don’t like her they only met through John
Thanks to Jen Mcabes 2day testimony of contradictions. I think there’s no question of serious doubt. I thought the McAlbert clan’s testimonies were bad but Jen really nailed it for the defense.
Jenns testimony was revealing. She was defensive, evasive and argumentative..thar type of behavior is how people act when they are hiding the truth and out right lying..open book if you ask me..
No, the second day was not a day of contradictions on Jen McCabe's part. She stood by her testimony and did not allow her words to be twisted by the defense, she truly owned A J and showed the world how to deal with a bully. Bravo’ 👏 Jen M
you nailed it...Rebecca Swift!!
@@superjuls69 what trial are you watching?!?! 😀😀😂..
I guess you think Brian Higgins shined on cross, hey, uh "babe"...
Loves to cherry pick and destroy phones...
BA, same..
Let's talk after the verdict,..
No texting, tho.. 😉😉😊😀
@@hanginthere65 are there two???? Stop drinking turtleboy's kool aid and use your common sense. So far all the conspiracy theories have been debunked and all the evidence keeps coming back to her
I love this trial, no evidence, clueless L&C chat, lots of breaks.
Read is the only person to see him because she in fact hit him and knew where he was in the snow, GUILTY!!
Absolutely not… she did not hit him… you’re saying she smashed him with the car at 26 mph, but he had no bruises or broken bones below the neck? They found a hair after the car was towed 60 miles in a snow storm to be examined… the hair wasn’t fastened in any way to the vehicle… just found… he has bit and claw marks all over his arm… people from the common wealth have deleted messages, gotten rid of their phones, etc… Jen McCabe told her sister in a whisper in the car not to come outside… and we’re still having this debate? Unreal
Yes, I cannot think of any other explanation for Read's weird conduct - spotting him from the car laying under 4 inches of snow, asking "Did I hit him?" and frantic behaviour like asking "Is he dead?" over and over. I think she killed him in a drunken, impulsive act.
@@glamdolly30 - watch the plow driver’s testimony… he passed the house twice and saw nothing in the yard both times… she didn’t hit him… he was dragged out later in the evening… I don’t understand how there’s still an argument here. She didn’t kill him
Jenn McCabe looks awful relaxed
19:03 He got punched in the face. He was involved a fight. I guess someone or some people definitely got the best of him that night. RIP John O’Keefe.
I believe Colin is involved. That could be why the Alberts and McCabes have been protecting him. It's obvious by their testimonies (especially Jenn and Matt McCabes) how defensive they sound. Jenns testimony was evasive and argumentative..people who have something to hide behave like that. The difference between Jenns testimony and Carries', are worlds apart. It was evident that Carrie was being honest. She showed honest emotion instead of anger and distain like Jenn has done..
Jenn has been shooting herself in the foot by displaying bad behavior..
my guess ..more than one person...
Couldn't they ping his phone to see if he ever went into the house?
They did ping his phone and yes, it shows the phone traveling up and down stairs.
Just wait until the defense puts on it's case.
They are going to blow this case out of the water.
@@Krystal_Kleer the apple health app is what said he went up stairs. I talking about the ping from the towers if it showed he went into the house
They had experts testify that it could not be confirmed with accuracy if he was in the house or not.
And wouldn’t it be awful if his watch that registered going up and down stairs was in fact a vehicle hitting him, making him go up and then back down as he flew back.
This whole case is bizare. I think the jury comes back with not enough evidence to convict though. If the charge was just manslaughter, maybe, but they piled it all on and she’ll probably walk.
I hope the FBI brings charges if they have more info because he deserves that.
@@heartofthematter6691 actually they the guy who took the stand and explained the his phone never pinged inside the house. The software showed they the phone only pinged outside where his body was found.
@@jaygunny8402 you seem to be correct on that.
I think Green’s testimony only challenged the “steps taken” having 98% accuracy, but didn’t challenge anything about actually being in the house or not.
Interesting how no one offers to hug Karen you can actually see Jen dodging her
Yes the body language is telling - there's something very 'off' about Karen Read. Sadly I think she's a bunny-boiler who killed her bf in a drunken, impulsive act, cos he wanted out of the relationship.
I missed this yesterday, was watching Daybell. Very believable witness. The fact that there was grass, not snow, beneath him? I guess some could have melted due to body heat....it seems like the weather pattern that night and early morning could pin what time he lay down there?
Theres no way that she didnt know that she hit him with the car.
It would have made a loud thud. She was drunk and panicked and left bc she didnt want to get in trouble.
She hit him but have you ever had a blackout from vodka? She didn’t realize it … then you get flashbacks of things as you sober up. That’s why she didn’t remember driving to Fairview.
Oh bull , she knew she hit him.@shaunnal2560
@@username.invalid763 yes I’m not saying she didn’t know - I’m saying she didn’t remember after it happened. It’s a very strange experience- I’ll explain it maybe it will make sense - I got so angry one night I threw my phone at a wall outside of a bar and I had good reason to be mad but I won’t go into it. Anyway I picked it up and drove home. When I got there I fell asleep. The next morning I looked at my phone and saw it was shattered- I mean really shattered 😂 and I didn’t know how it happened. I called my friend and asked her what happened and she told me. So then I remembered the incident and getting angry and throwing the phone. I just needed someone to jog my memory.
@@username.invalid763 I think that’s why Karen was leaving all those nasty texts and voicemails on John’s phone. When you blackout you have no short term memory - it gets lost even seconds after it happens. Why else would she be sending nasty messages to John? If she was smart and covering her tracks she would’ve left a nice message right? Like hey be safe - i made it home. Love you. No one saw them arguing so why even mention it or give them any evidence of one.
He was beaten fbi said so and the take light proves she didn’t hit him
Karen seemed to have a pretty good idea where his body was considering he was covered in snow...she backed into him , hense all the histeria on her part
That's my opinion too!
Karens story has changed like everyone elses.
Has anyone done a reenactment on how she could have hit hi? Did they match up hair and blood on car? Where are the witnesses from inside house?
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the only truth Jen mccabe spoke in her whole testimony was stating that this women is a talker.....
Jen Mccabe's testimony is virtually identical to this witness.
Jesus, how awful!!! Poor John!!! I feel so bad for him, his family and especially his niece and nephew!! This girl is the only normal witness I have heard so far and sadly the only one who’s showing the appropriate emotion! You can tell SHE TRULY LOVED AND CARED ABOUT John unlike all his other SO CALLED FRIENDS who have testified so far!!! I just hope and pray they get this right to get justice for him and his family!! It’s obviously not going to bring him back unfortunately but whoever did this to him whether it was Karen or any of the other people they NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE to give his family a little bit of peace when the trial is finally over and they can start to learn how to cope with this nightmare and hopefully start to find ways to honor his legacy so he lives on forever!
All these witnesses are not lying
Thanks!
Why does it appear Jen is noticeably calm
And is only walking backwards and forwards she doesn't appear to be that upset...
When I say that Karen seems over-the-top people love to tell me that people have different reactions in stressful situations. But apparently that only extends to people you believe.
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Thank you for watching with Court TV! What do YOU think of this case so far? Was it murder or is Karen Read being framed?
@@COURTTV it’s a tough one because I live in the area and the police are known to be corrupt
@@COURTTV framed...!!
@@michaelwblade of course and locals should NOT be allowed to police i their own small hometowns...breeding ground for favouritism and corruption
She said the mound of snow they plowed ( you can tell the snow pushed from road to flagpole) the area to put his body there
If she knows CPR then she knew he wasnt breathing. She says she grabbed karens phone and said hes not dead. When karen calledJO sister or sister in law. You can clearly tell when someone is dead. She never mentions that she checked for a heartbeat. Whats up with that!
Because she didn’t want to say something that hadn’t been 100% determined
Maybe he didn’t have rigor mortis
7 Albert’s, 3 McCabes & 2 Proctors…the crew cover up
And don't forget the partridge in a pear tree. They're all in on it. 😂
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5/23/24 Imo, Karen was behaving appropriately frantically looking. She wasn’t driving, able to focus looking for John. Not unusual driver unable to focus closely (while driving).
i find it really unbelievable that all of these people decided to leave the bar buzzed to go to a house party at the “McAlberts” all knowing damn well that there’s a winter storm coming? Mrs Albert even made a comment that they put cars into the garage if there’s a storm on the way.. they’re all lying, something much more sinister happened to poor JO..Those girls hated Karen as well, i think they were jealous of her… everything done in the dark will all come to light
Why would anyone be jealous of Karen Read?! She's the type who would conclude jealousy is the reason someone doesn't like her, when it's actually because she's a horrible narcissistic nightmare!
But you seen him under all the snow...come on people
But did you see him. Not but you SEEN him. Come on person.
Who came up with this ridiculous "conspiracy theory," Charlie Adelson?
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Good comment
Sadly it may create enough of a smokescreen to get the guilty Karen Read off a life sentence. Read's suspicious conduct points to an impulsive, drunken crime of passion cos he was going to leave her.
Karens original sober interviewed statement is: as they were both there in suv and john was dropped off but not confirmed by karen tonenter through house door. As she timely looked down at her phone.
she seems genuine. not like the rest of those liars.
She may not have intended to hurt/kill him. But she was drunk and ran over him with SUV.
Did you see his wounds, those are dog bites, said his face was pulverized eyes like golf balls, not consistent with a hit by a car
@@betty-janececile5214there are many things in a car that can cause that kind of injury - window trim moldings, running boards, door handles. She obviously didn’t hit his body so he must have been bent over meaning the whole right side of her car could have caught his arm.
There’s still no evidence she was drunk in fact even the ones keenest to blame her have had to admit she didn’t seem intoxicated.
@@mariaskinnider115 she had 2 drinks and dumped 4 shots into those 2 drinks on video at CF McCarthys. So 6 drinks between 9:15 and 10:49.
@@2TurntKaren In a car, if John was bent over when struck why didn't he go under the car like the CW claims? Why are there tears in his flesh? Why is there a cut on the back of his head towards the left side? It's impossible for John to be bent over, with a wound on the back of his head. Hed have to bend over turn his head yet still have those wounds solely on his arms while being 6-12 feet up the lawn.
They never look at that tail light. Theres actual video footage of them walking right by it. BS. Lies lies lies
Karen probably intentionally backed into the other vehicle to explain any damage. I can't imagine backing into some would cause death. Think she ran over him, he got up and fell hitting his face on something, his phone fell out of his hand and he was knocked out.
What kind of lawyer uses a term such as "closer-up image"?
Which way was his head facing ? Was his head facing Towards drive or hydrant ?
I don't know, man. I know a lot of you are saying she is believable, probably because of the emotion that she is displaying, but it seems very off to me. Don't forget that people can feel remorse or guilt and it can come off as genuine sadness. There is way too much reasonable doubt in this case for me to believe that a person should be convicted for murder. If there isn't concrete, without a doubt, evidence, then I truly don't think it is right to convict someone for murder. Witness testimony has been proven, time and time again, to be completely unreliable. Remember that. This woman could be telling the truth, but in my opinion, it's not enough evidence. Also, I can't forget about all the inconsistencies in everyone else's testimonies.
She may not be part of the cover up if there is one, she probably just got roped in to look for him
Johns bidy heat before freezing compared to snow temp meltedcsnow under him. Thus grass.
I love that the defense just said Nah we’re not gonna bother w this pathetic lying witness😂! Lally proceeded to calling a bunch of people not even involved in the case to smear Karen Read. The jury sees right through this and it’s only Hurting the State prosecutions
Uh … the witnesses corroborated Karen’s own messages left on John’s phone “I know your f-ing that b****” demonstrating Karen didn’t trust John around other females.
Grade A copium there
they know what they are doing...Im so impressed with them. Lally? Oh my lord....
If John got out of the suv did he go behind it and for what reason? If you’re dropping someone off , you get out and shut the door then walk to your destination, unless you have to cross a road or something .
Oof - picked up the phone and handed it off. Egad. So many variables.
Who recorded the video when after they found him?
Wait. I missed something. Jones’s it exactly that Kerry just rolled up at the scene??
KR tried to distance herself immediately saying she left him at the bar. Yet shes blaming the people at that house ? Its all bad. It is all starting to unravel.
Yes. Her statement that the last time she saw him was at The Waterfall..that was the beginning of KR'S lies!
Could be true. Is there any video evidence that shows KR and JO getting in her car and drive off? (I have to ask as I haven't seen everything)
She's LIEING!! Lally shows her John okeafes ring footage FIRST, where as the defence showed jen after so she wouldn't screw up what jen screwed up! Jen said "as soon as they went back to karens, karen rallied herself and kerri to the back of her car and had a coversation about the tail light, and kerri rushed them INSIDE of karens house to look for john"
Then Kerri comes on the stand, lally shows her the video FIRST, then kerri says, i thought we had a conversation before we went inside, but now that ive seen the footage, it looks like we didnt!"
EXACTLY!! cause you didnt!! Because remember....apparently you kerri rushed everyone inside after that so called tail light conversation? Cause if it happend when you were leaving, no need to "rush inside" cause you've just come outside from BEING inside!
Liars!!! The both of them!!
geeze so detailed about finding his phone on grass but cant remember who you gave his phone to?? give it up
As a nurse you check response and a pulse , you know if some is cold and rigor mortis has set in.
As soon as she mentioned ambulance, there was a siren. So strange.
how did find his phone?
I think that some of these people got dragged into something that they now regret, they have been set up to make a cover story, it's all has currupt has hell
If she actually hit him she would never say “did I hit him? Did I hit him?”
Why else would she say "Did I hit him?" Ever heard the expression: 'In vino veritas' - 'In wine there is truth'. Karen Read killed her boyfriend in a drunken impulsive act, fearful he was going to end their relationship. She spotted his body from the back of the car, laying under 4 inches of snow!