Unfortunately, it seems that way (many suspicions concerning this group of people (in the house that night) - where I believe what happened to John O’Keefe occurred. Based on the testimony of the many closely connected individuals in that house (possibly started in the basement or cellar(whichever you prefer to call it) then he was placed outside in the harsh elements. Too many variables that do not add up so far.
@@LauraA-zn3hninteresting how every one of their responses are very unfavorable to the case...all the McAlberts, Higgins, Proctor, etc. I assure you these are not mere coincidences.
Her attitude and defensiveness is JUST like Jodi Arias was under cross 😳 Y'all need to learn a thing or two about body language and facial expressions. Jennifer McCabe is 100% lying.
Absolutely no! She’s been so harassed as well as her family! Have you no compassion? I’d be defensive too! She’s not on trial here….and the Arias comparison is laughable! 🤭
@@doreen1128 McMabe is NOT the first person/witness in the history of court cases to be harassed before trial. And just because I have an opinion on the way she's testifying, doesn't give you the right to call my compassion into question. Why did you feel the need to make it personal? Being harassed before trial does NOT excuse the way she is verbally attacking the defense whenever she feels uncomfortable or cornered, conveniently adding to her testimony, refusing to properly answer questions, rolling her eyes etc.
@@doreen1128Yeah I have compassion for people that are telling the truth and not hiding shit . Nobody should be harassed but ya know they brought it on with their LIES . The CW has not shown ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL 18 DAYS IN ALREADY
Right. If she was being truthful then why do you need to read every paper that is associated with the question unless you want to make sure you keep that same story..I'm sure the jury sees that this is a coverup and they are framing her to protect the cop and his friends and family m for God sakes the cop that trooper Proctor is best friends with this lady's bro in law that was a cop at the time and owned the house..
Yeah some things are easy to forget like what I ate for dinner 2 years ago. But you would think if your “friend” was murdered and you were at the scene and part of it you might not forget at least the very important parts. Of course she only recalls the same details as everybody else 😂what a joke this is.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipJen kept calling John's phone to locate it after the fight. She had it! John sure wasn't walking with Jen, as the data shows! Keep up at least! Wow! Jen, you are showing yourself!
And the house should have been considered a part of the crime scene (yet unbelievably it was conveniently left out of the equation. I find that forensically irresponsible. The body tells a story & where it was found….. Then the house should have been the other part of the story
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip u would check to see if the person is still alive u wouldnt think about contaminating the scene u would be thinking about saving the person . The attorneys point is there was no body in the yard they were after killing him inside the house . Its your comment that is stupid but here i have good news for u Anna No Brain No Tumor . .
Have you ever seen a blizzard in MA. I have and from there. No way can see clear and they were all intoxicated. Just because you’re in law enforcement/doesn’t mean you can’t have fun. They work hard and deserve a good time out with friends.
She wants to be so hard in controll. But here in the cross examination, she lost almost all of the controll. Wonderful to watch. Its a very good defense lawyer.
She said, she talks talks to them everyday. But, not about the case! Omgoodness, what a liar! Her attitude alone is very defensive & condescending. This Defense Team is doing a great job showing the truth about these people!
Seriously! It’s one thing to look at former testimony to refresh your recollection - but to ask “can I see where I said that”…”can you show me that” .. she can’t remember her lies! If she told the truth she wouldn’t need to refresh her recollection because the truth is linear and would never change! She can’t keep track of the web of lies she weaved
That’s so well stated! Yep *cold chill* this is one incredibly weird situation, no party goer ever once took the stand while genuinely sad about their friend’s death! I don’t care if they all went through a long grand jury process before this trial, or not! It’s not normal etiquette to use this defensive, indignantly rude behavior while in court. How did she and other witnesses not get charged with contempt?
That’s a tragedy -and it hurts the most. It kills me how much power the State has and unlimited resources and to use that in any pursuit of an agenda or anything other than truth is truly sickening.
Richard Allen, Bryan Kohberger cases, luckily also have great lawyers, public defenders too. The investigators in these cases all tell the same lies as those in the Karen Reed case. The FBI disagrees with their conclusions… Only with the 2 I mentioned, the evidence is not able to even be produced.
I don’t like her AT all. I find her truly arrogant and she’s got an obvious agenda. I’m new to this trial. Did she hate this defendant and try to make her life miserable. ?
@@jackieblue6116 she may not be on trial, but why shouldn’t she be forced to reveal an obvious agenda that can be tremendously damaging to the defendant who should not take the stand nor say one word that removes the cloak of protection that she wears now but won’t after she sits on that stand and begins to defend herself. Rather she should say nothing because right now there’s so much reasonable doubt as part of the Commonweath’s case - so keep it that way! If this witness is being harassed, then let’s at least acknowledge she made her own bed of corruption in her obvious hatred for the defendant. This makes her a bully and I don’t have any sympathy for bullies that get bullied back as a taste of. bitter medicine they forced on a defendant whose whole life is at stake. She has some nerve crying victim now. In my humble opinion, of course she is one very embittered woman. So deal with it.
@@jackieblue6116 she should be on trial. And I hope the federal investigators find probable cause to put her, her husband, her daughter, her sister, her nephew, all of them lot on trial
Something has been really bothering me. Jenn McCabe seemed oddly obsessed with John O'Keefe arriving at the house to the point where she was up and down going to the window and texting. Odd behaviour for a married woman for one thing, but apparently John never arrived so why did she suddenly just stop showing any concern about his whereabouts or arrival?
@@anastaiber952 I don't think she had a crush. I think that the texts were sent as a cover because Brian planned to beat john up. Maybe because Colin was in trouble with the law and John was the one who charged him
Really great point!!! Isn't it also a bit odd that after they found John that she never checked in to see how Karen was doing or to collaborate the story with Karen as she did with carrie?🧐
She sure does and she doesn't realize how much more she is hurting her case. Caught lying. Editorializing every answer except her side. Her side are yes and no answers and for Karen's side every answer has to be everything BUT the answer. They did it. She lied and so did the girl on the stand now.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip who was helping? who were thru helping they don't sound like they cared about Karen? they were so nasty to her the whole morning omfg the bitchiness, that's not help....she was helping herself to look for John she wasn't helping John or Karen or kerry she should have never organised where people should park or be looking out yhe window and door instead of enjoying the party at her house? who texts people where to park if they know the house, the area and if they are a cop? makes no sense. I don't text my friends where to park. It's all lies.
Actions do speak louder than words. Especially when those actions are typing "hos long to die in cold" hours before the victim was even found. She's not on trial, you're right. But she soon will be.
I don't know if she's lying... but how do you go in front of numerous grand juries and not remember EXACTLY what she said. She is in front of a jury and doesn't remember everything that happened on the night and the next morning of a day her friend was found dead.
It's very hard to understand what it's like to be in a situation such as being on a witness stand testifying at a murder trial unless you have actually had to do this. It's easy to look at someone doing it and think about what you would do or say or how you would act or respond. I have personally been in this situation. I can confidently say that it was way more complex than how I would have assumed it to be before hand. Some of the details are similar as the victim she is testifying about was someone she knew and claims was her friend. The trial I testified at was for the murder of someone I considered a friend. One major difference is I had never met, saw, or knew the person who killed my friend. I did not know this person existed until after I watched him shoot my friend. With that being said, the only thing I can think of to explain this womens behavior and demeanor, and the way she is answering or not answering the questions she is being asked that makes sense is that she is covering for someone or several someone's that are more important to her than her friends John and Karen. Period.
@@joannephillips4110Jen McCabe and her husband are now saying Brian Higgins Jeep was parked out front behind Karen. They didn’t mention it in their prior testimony and they are the only ones who say it was there when Karen was there. Defense is trying to show her story has changed. They keep going on and on about it because she won’t give a straight answer or admit her testimony changed. I don’t know the significance of his jeep being there or not, it just looks less credible if a witness is so defensive or seems to have an agenda other than just stating what she saw
Yes, she does seem to have a rather high-powered perception of herself these personality styles do not like To be called out. What bothers me is that the house was not considered part of a crime scene (would you accept the people inside claiming Mr. O’Keefe never came in that house? I would not under these circumstances.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip Not a revelation, especially if they're trying to protect someone else and or because not all police officers like one another just because they share the same career discipline 👈
especially with an iphone. we don't have brick phones anymore. how many of us have made actual butt dials on an iphone/android now with a lock screen? makes 0 sense
This lawyer is perfection if you caught the questioning about when she loses her phone and what she would do to retrieve it. Call it one or two times, directly after asking about butt dialing. I'm praying the jury has the light go off just like the rest of us. She is definitely hiding something!
@@AmyMeyer-h9c Alan Jackson is a surgeon it is a delight to watch ,Amy can I just say ,you are a woman and I am a woman, if Iwas testifying I would never bring my tongue out of my mouth and lick both corners of my mouth ,that is not lady like at all it’s so disgusting and disrespectful,she is a complete TRAMP !
They’re all liars but as you say Bev is a hateful liar. Full of arrogance & hate. And she has children whose schoolmates will let them have it. Mother of the year. And dumped a family dog.
I cannot even deal! I am assuming most of us that have been watching this, are like me and watch a lot of these cases. So when I hear the prosecutor object and the judge say “sustained” to almost every single objection I am screaming out loud “ what is your objection???” Why don’t they have to explain their objection?? I can’t stand it!! 😂😢😅
It's very hard to understand what it's like to be in a situation such as being on a witness stand testifying at a murder trial unless you have actually had to do this. It's easy to look at someone doing it and think about what you would do or say or how you would act or respond. I have personally been in this situation. I can confidently say that it was way more complex than how I would have assumed it to be before hand. Some of the details are similar as the victim she is testifying about was someone she knew and claims was her friend. The trial I testified at was for the murder of someone I considered a friend. One major difference is I had never met, saw, or knew the person who killed my friend. I did not know this person existed until after I watched him shoot my friend. With that being said, the only thing I can think of to explain this womens behavior and demeanor, and the way she is answering or not answering the questions she is being asked that makes sense is that she is covering for someone or several someone's that are more important to her than her friends John and Karen. Period.
I agree with you ,but jenn McCabe is the mastermind behind all this ,how in the name of God does she sleep at night I cant even imagine being Karen,even though I believe she knows the FBI are on it ,she is such a hateful woman ,she wad right on the stans when she said the harassment people said she will never live a normal life again she was truthful about that !
@@ainokea911she’s a lady who was in the party when John died, and when she “found out” that John was missing, she sent Karen on a wild goose chase, and was one of the “witnesses” to the “confession” that is evidenced to have never happened.
I absolutely agree! I've said this long ago. She complains about being harassed and she acts just like a mean girl that hasn't martured since high school!
She’s such an ego manipulator, she even argues with her own statements to twist it into something that fits her narrative at the time! I’m hoping the jury sees through it!
exactly. couldn’t have summed it up any better. every time Jenn McCabe gets hung up on a question she looks at the jury, mustering all the authenticity possible for a guilty party, and reinforces her role of ‘distraught friend’ and reiterates how upset she was with finding John.
And she keeps repeating that she turned her phone over willingly. Quick, someone get her a gold star for that so she can get the acknowledgement she is seeking for this and shut the eff up about it.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipthey are winning the case which is the foundation of the massive civil case for malicious prosecution and JOK’s estate also suing. They’re done. So is MSP. They won’t be trusted until heads roll and they will.
She was trying to find his phone to delete ring footage!! So obvious!! Like a guy said on here “ all the butt dialing, bunch of assholes all talking all night”!! 😂
I am shocked this woman is so dry and lacks of empathy for Karen and her arrogant attitude is pouring out of her pores, she is angry and really not a nice vibe at all, which usually denotes guilt and untruthful circumstances. Whatever happened that night, if it was her husband in the snow, she would have gone ballistic, and her attitude towards a woman screaming for help, screaming for her partner’s sleeping away from life and in shock is nasty, really awful people around Karen, whether she was framed or not, it’s clear there is no good sentiment at any levels.
Damn, this shit is sketchy as hell! When police conduct interviews for a MURDER INVESTIGATION don’t they usually have the people involved go to the POLICE DEPARTMENT for interviews instead of at the PERSONS HOUSE and aren’t those interviews usually RECORDED???
Yes, and they don’t use a leaf blower on a crime scene. They also don’t put evidence in red solo cups! They secure the scene and call another department to bring them evidence bags, evidence vials, evidence boxes, etc. etc. etc., if their own department doesn’t have these items. They also document everything at the scene! They photograph the body, if possible. They document where the blood is at! They most certainly DONT scoop up the snow with blood on it and not label where this blood was recovered from! Horrible example of “police work”
Yes. 100%. I was an eye witness to a murder of one of my friends and absolutely that is what happens. Almost every single thing I have heard so far about how this case has been handled since the first moment is being conducted the polar opposite of how the case I was a witness to and also had to testified at the trial was. This shit is blowing my mind.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip If they do in fact never find out that will be awful and it certainly seems like it’s headed in that direction! I just want to see John and all who loved him get the justice he and they deserve and the right people punished for it! I would hate to see him become a cold case sitting on a shelf somewhere! He risked his life everyday to protect and serve his community and he deserves better than that!
These lawyers are good, and the defensiveness alone makes me wonder.. but, I can’t help but think, what if Karen didn’t have money? What if this happened to someone who didn’t have the ability to pay attorney fees? An innocent person would no doubt be taking the fall.. This isn’t justice.
It's exactly what they've done to countless others a million times in places like Canton. The McAlberts, the DA, the judge, the Canton & State Police are used to framing innocent people and getting away with it. Who's got the money to hire someone like Alan Jackson and fly him in from LA to fight their endless corruption? If the factual circumstances documenting their criminal conspiracy weren't so compelling, and the media attention so widespread, they'd go through the motions and simply walk away again. They didn't anticipate and weren't prepared for such a well prepared legal defense, and it has really taken them by surprise for the first time in their lives.
That’s how life has always been…money gives you the best shot at life. Financial freedom is the ultimate goal in life. Don’t left people fool you into thinking you’re supposed to be humble and poor to enter the kingdom of heaven. Heaven is while you’re alive not while you’re dead
Now imagine being on the jury and listening to this. If I was the commonwealth, I would be furious at these witnesses if she is guilty because their behavior alone is tanking this case. We have all dealt with liars and no one likes being lied to or people who nitpick every single thing.
The woman is an obvious psychopath. Even the most innocent person would be more nervous in this situation. She is way too calm and collected. Reminds me of Jodi Arius.
@@thelastroseofsummer2817I agree with you on that. However, she has a very selective memory. She is over the top with having him find certain statements statements
What really happened to the dog? My stepdad used to be retired Detective Sergeant and no way would he stay inside the house with a deceased officer on his front lawn. That’s not rational…
I think the dog wasn’t there by morning and his daughter took her . Even the most mild dogs will react and I assume they didn’t close their doors because they had a dog .
Nor demanded to know exactly what happened to the dog just like any other piece of evidence. They killed that dog because it’s bite and DNA would’ve matched what was on the officer’s body.
She must have walked to her vehicle blindfolded! What a liar!!! We see through your answers Jen. Who are you protecting Jen?? Who are you lying for Jen???
Calling johns phone for an alibi of looking for him, or calling the phone that john lost while being killed?, so they can put his phone outside with him.
For the first time in years, Karen Read has made me unashamed to be a “Karen” with her grace and determination under pressure. Praying for her to be set free from this corruption. She hasn’t even had a chance to grieve the loss of John. 💔
If I were on this jury, her behavior would disgust me. Heck, most all of the prosecutions witnesses are all disgusting and obviously lying by being difficult about simply giving facts they already testified to 🙄 The truth is never difficult to remember, but lies are always hard to keep track of.
@@notthatronjohnson1187Maybe bc Karen took her along for the ride all the while screaming at them and yelling “I hit him, did I hit him?” In turn, when they discovered the body of her friend, he’s dead. And Karen was the last person with John …
The vicious harassment we’re all reviving “ . The stop covering up for a murder and trying to blame an innocent women . Your life is not more valuable than Hers!
Poor Jen, likes to bring up all the harassment. Now with testimony she has an opportunity to show the world what a kind and generous human she is. That did not go well.
@@anastaiber952...or she probably was trying to set him up with someone from their circle. KR was an outsider whom its now apparent they hated with a passion even before that day hence why it may have been easy to frame her.
Im still witholding judgement on if i believe karen is innocent or not....but Bev seems to get quite disgruntled when the defense starts making good points...and Jen would have been much more believable as a person if she could just admit she didnt know something or remember. Instead, she skirted nearly EVERY SINGLE question as if she was fishing to see where it was going and seemwd to fix her narrative answers to fit his questions as they came along. It doesnt matter anymore if she really isnt lying...she gave the jury a hefty bit of reasonable doubt with her actions here.
I agree. And what’s very interesting and relative to this, the lead investigators text messages to his friends will turn out to be vile gossip about Karen originating from Jen, passed to Proctors sister (Courtney) over 67 phone calls in less than 8 months, then communicated to Proctor in his daily calls to his sister!
This judge refuses to say “Overruled” instead, she will say “No, I’ll let him have it” or “Do you know?” “Can you answer that?” “ Did you?” I’d love to know what the difference is between the attorney asking the question or her asking it. It’s so weird. I have never seen any judge do this.
Extraordinary. I’ve never seen it either, and it’s really going to mess with the appellate record. I’m not at all sure that this judge knows basic civil procedure.
It DOES look really really bad and IF she had nothing to do with anything and isn’t lieing I hope she reads every comment about herself so she can see how rude she appears and disrespectful to the court, for what reason?! Can you imagine being married to her or working with her 😮🙄🤦🏼♀️😭 I could NEVER. I don’t know if Karen ran him over or not but as her being someone from inside the house if I was on the jury I would be side eying her so hard her name could be “reasonable doubt” for Karen 💯🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️ She seems like a rude, condescending, b word. Also if they saw John get there why didn’t they go look outside when he stopped texting, he could have simply been dropped off and so dr’nk he didn’t make it inside so when the plow came around it could have gotten him, they say it’s the biggest plow the town has, why wouldn’t they just go outside since he wasn’t answering but they knew he was just there and knew he had been drinking most of the ppl there were police they should have known to at the very least check to make sure he wasn’t passed out dr+nk outside in the snow 💯🙄🤦🏼♀️ Poor John he may never get justice but I definitely pray that no one is wrongly convicted and if anyone actually did this I hope they are sentenced.
These people have terrible memory loss, I don’t believe anything they say, Albert had the basement floor dug up, sold the house 50,000 below market value, he and Higgins destroyed their phones, and we supposed to believe they had nothing to do with this? WOW!!!
@@deadmanswife3625 Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy will show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian & Colin Albert & Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️
Bev instructed them not to vote ahead of time and specified that they should review all of the evidence then vote. Bev is awful, I think this delay is her fault.
Don’t be silly and reactionary. We have the best justice system in the world; it is the gold standard. There is no intelligent argument otherwise and it is one of the main reason that people die most every day trying to get into this country. That is not anecdotal - that is fact. How oblivious. 🇺🇸
Every justice system has some corruption. Our justice system works better than any other in the world. The world looks to us to define their own systems of justice and has since our inception.Only a person uninformed of history and of the contemporary world doesn’t understand that.
No one is home here. Or she is just playing it that way. Not sure. But if your going to lie you better have a good memory. If you have nothing to hide why be so testy?
I called the phone company this morning explaining that all 345 calls on my bill this month were all Butt Dials and that I shouldn't be held accountable for that bill.
@@tobydean7097 remember when she said that Carrie Roberts was a talker? Then later on, Jen is talking to the girls because she’s a” CHATTY PERSON “? 👏👏👏😂🫤😂🫤 JEN……CAN’T EVEN MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND TO GET YOUR LIES STRAIGHT😂😂😂😂😂😂
Were you there? These people have been constantly harassed in doing their children. Wouldn’t you be defensive when it comes to your family. I sure as heck would be. She’s not in trial. The murderer girlfriend is!
@@James-pq5tm correct ! John needs justice and Karen deserves compensation after this, esp with her health issues and added stress. Now the entire world knows about them because of proctor!!! Everything will come out !! I can’t believe they’re even bringing her back to court it’s disgusting , and it’s even more disgusting how they have John’s family fooled !! Brian wanted Karen , and I believe John and Brian got into it with the owner of the house and his son and he was jumped and they threw him outside .. I’m from mass and the cop from dighton mass ? He even said her tail light was cracked !!!! He didn’t lie about it nor wanted to be involved he was the only good cop on that stand that was honest
how in the world do the cops find or somebody find a body on the front lawn of a house and the police do not check with the owners of that property if that person is related to or has any connection to anybody in that house and further and investigation of that propertysomething is sure fishy
An entire radius of that property “should have been considered a crime scene” Anyone who has worked a time crime scene would have done that unless…..????????
@@jeffhampton7405 That is very true & it all makes for a convoluted narrative leading to doubt & questionable intent. I'm hoping at some point actual evidence will be submitted in order to determine facts instead of what seems to be a tail of deception⁉️
@@jeffhampton7405 Observing from the sidelines I have to say 👉 there are so many convoluted stories, the more you hear the more doubt is created & too many questions w/o answers. Most of all the lack of convincing evidence but instead a poorly constructed tale that weaves a web of fabrications 👈👈👈👈
She makes me sick. Just tell the bloody truth. If you are telling the truth the story never changes. You also won't need to refresh your memory. Obnoxious !
Wow! This lady is NOT helping. She is as sketchy as the cops are. Disgraceful
She’s a Mcalbert 😂😂😂
She saw KR hit JO and did nothing but call his phone
She is the ring leader!
I have no problem believing that.
Alan Jackson made a fool of himself trying to catch Jen McCabe in an inconsistency. That's not going to save Karen Read from killing John.
Jen is the friend that will steal your wallet then help you look for it
Exactly.
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That would be hilarious if Jackson could say that to her in cross!
Whats sad is this poor man had not one real friend in the entire group
So true ❤
@@Markgray-gq9ri Bs she's innocent your so blind
Unfortunately, it seems that way (many suspicions concerning this group of people (in the house that night) - where I believe what happened to John O’Keefe occurred. Based on the testimony of the many closely connected individuals in that house (possibly started in the basement or cellar(whichever you prefer to call it) then he was placed outside in the harsh elements. Too many variables that do not add up so far.
@@brynnleapierce5600
Who killed him and why?
@@Markgray-gq9riguilty of what? I’ve seen nothing thus far.
Is your name Jennifer McCabe? Answer “Can you show me my birth certificate?”
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This woman disgusts me as a human being. This whole case is shameful and eye opening
Have to agree although it brings me no pleasure.
She doesn’t disgust me though I think her responses seem unfavorable to the trial.
@@LauraA-zn3hninteresting how every one of their responses are very unfavorable to the case...all the McAlberts, Higgins, Proctor, etc. I assure you these are not mere coincidences.
Shes turning crimson as she lies.
So when jen left she didnt see a bidy and just prior she heard nothing.
Her attitude and defensiveness is JUST like Jodi Arias was under cross 😳 Y'all need to learn a thing or two about body language and facial expressions. Jennifer McCabe is 100% lying.
Absolutely no! She’s been so harassed as well as her family! Have you no compassion? I’d be defensive too! She’s not on trial here….and the Arias comparison is laughable! 🤭
@@doreen1128 McMabe is NOT the first person/witness in the history of court cases to be harassed before trial. And just because I have an opinion on the way she's testifying, doesn't give you the right to call my compassion into question. Why did you feel the need to make it personal?
Being harassed before trial does NOT excuse the way she is verbally attacking the defense whenever she feels uncomfortable or cornered, conveniently adding to her testimony, refusing to properly answer questions, rolling her eyes etc.
She did though
Wrong! Normal response to an asshole like Atty Jackson. He's argumentative and totally confusing.
@@doreen1128Yeah I have compassion for people that are telling the truth and not hiding shit . Nobody should be harassed but ya know they brought it on with their LIES . The CW has not shown ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL 18 DAYS IN ALREADY
If you’re not lying, and trying to keep your story, straight. It should not be this difficult to testify in a trial.
Right. If she was being truthful then why do you need to read every paper that is associated with the question unless you want to make sure you keep that same story..I'm sure the jury sees that this is a coverup and they are framing her to protect the cop and his friends and family m for God sakes the cop that trooper Proctor is best friends with this lady's bro in law that was a cop at the time and owned the house..
Yeah some things are easy to forget like what I ate for dinner 2 years ago. But you would think if your “friend” was murdered and you were at the scene and part of it you might not forget at least the very important parts. Of course she only recalls the same details as everybody else 😂what a joke this is.
Her and her husband are veey secretive about the higgins vehicle plow. I think the vehiclevplow and suv were both possibly involved.
This woman appears to have NO difficulty testifying…steady and sharp
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipJen kept calling John's phone to locate it after the fight. She had it! John sure wasn't walking with Jen, as the data shows! Keep up at least! Wow! Jen, you are showing yourself!
I can say with 100% certainty, if there were a dead body in my front yard, I would come out of the house. I think everyone would.
And the house should have been considered a part of the crime scene (yet unbelievably it was conveniently left out of the equation. I find that forensically irresponsible. The body tells a story & where it was found….. Then the house should have been the other part of the story
and especially a first responder would.. it’s literally becomes apart of their instincts..
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip u would check to see if the person is still alive u wouldnt think about contaminating the scene u would be thinking about saving the person . The attorneys point is there was no body in the yard they were after killing him inside the house . Its your comment that is stupid but here i have good news for u Anna No Brain No Tumor . .
Super sus!!
Along with deleting calls, texts & internet searches, throwing phone in GARBAGE & getting new phone WITH a preservation order.
Have you ever seen a blizzard in MA. I have and from there. No way can see clear and they were all intoxicated. Just because you’re in law enforcement/doesn’t mean you can’t have fun. They work hard and deserve a good time out with friends.
This woman is unbelievable. This entire case is a prime example of a “good ole boys” club. How they sleep at night is beyond me.
They sleep just fine. They love breaking all the rules and cheating -and lying.
It's amazing how she inadvertently screams "conflict of interest" again and again and again!!!
*Their family & friends are all alive...* Ppl like this don't care beyond their myopic bubbles; THAT'S how they sleep at night!
This attorney is sharp!
Very sharp
As a tack
like a double edged sword!!
That's why he's costing Read , in my professional opinion, lower 7 figures!!
@@Woke.a.f.get what you pay for
She wants to be so hard in controll. But here in the cross examination, she lost almost all of the controll. Wonderful to watch. Its a very good defense lawyer.
This is an example of a guilty conscience & how hard it is for her to defend her lies
She said, she talks talks to them everyday. But, not about the case! Omgoodness, what a liar! Her attitude alone is very defensive & condescending. This Defense Team is doing a great job showing the truth about these people!
@@brendahastings3985 i dont think guilty enters her mind at all.
Free Karen Read!!!! Jail time for all the liars plotting against her!!!
Agree the culprits are framing her. It’s plain obvious.
👏👏👏👏💯
I can’t wait til she’s behind bars! POS Jen Jen Jen you should take a deal to save yourself!
@@Athena_208 I cant Beleive the OKeefe family Believe the McCalberts absolutely disgusting !
Why isn’t the Judge tell her to shut up and answer a yes or no question?
The judge is friends with most people involved in the case .
Her kids call the judge aunt bev, thats why
😮😮😮
Because Aunty Bev loves these liars.
Seriously! It’s one thing to look at former testimony to refresh your recollection - but to ask “can I see where I said that”…”can you show me that” .. she can’t remember her lies! If she told the truth she wouldn’t need to refresh her recollection because the truth is linear and would never change! She can’t keep track of the web of lies she weaved
Thank God Ms. Reed has an excellent attorney. It really makes you wonder about innocent people who don't.
That’s so well stated! Yep *cold chill* this is one incredibly weird situation, no party goer ever once took the stand while genuinely sad about their friend’s death! I don’t care if they all went through a long grand jury process before this trial, or not! It’s not normal etiquette to use this defensive, indignantly rude behavior while in court. How did she and other witnesses not get charged with contempt?
That’s a tragedy -and it hurts the most. It kills me how much power the State has and unlimited resources and to use that in any pursuit of an agenda or anything other than truth is truly sickening.
Richard Allen, Bryan Kohberger cases, luckily also have great lawyers, public defenders too. The investigators in these cases all tell the same lies as those in the Karen Reed case. The FBI disagrees with their conclusions… Only with the 2 I mentioned, the evidence is not able to even be produced.
@@edu456 especially this town
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip i hear you.
She’s guilty, her husband is guilty. She thinks she’s smarter than the defense lawyer. What an idiot
I don’t like her AT all. I find her truly arrogant and she’s got an obvious agenda. I’m new to this trial. Did she hate this defendant and try to make her life miserable. ?
She’s not on trial. Let’s get the defendant on the stand.
@@jackieblue6116 she may not be on trial, but why shouldn’t she be forced to reveal an obvious agenda that can be tremendously damaging to the defendant who should not take the stand nor say one word that removes the cloak of protection that she wears now but won’t after she sits on that stand and begins to defend herself. Rather she should say nothing because right now there’s so much reasonable doubt as part of the Commonweath’s case - so keep it that way! If this witness is being harassed, then let’s at least acknowledge she made her own bed of corruption in her obvious hatred for the defendant. This makes her a bully and I don’t have any sympathy for bullies that get bullied back as a taste of. bitter medicine they forced on a defendant whose whole life is at stake. She has some nerve crying victim now. In my humble opinion, of course she is one very embittered woman. So deal with it.
@@jackieblue6116 wrong. Why???
@@jackieblue6116 she should be on trial. And I hope the federal investigators find probable cause to put her, her husband, her daughter, her sister, her nephew, all of them lot on trial
Something has been really bothering me. Jenn McCabe seemed oddly obsessed with John O'Keefe arriving at the house to the point where she was up and down going to the window and texting. Odd behaviour for a married woman for one thing, but apparently John never arrived so why did she suddenly just stop showing any concern about his whereabouts or arrival?
I can only hope Karen’s lawyers sees this statement/question. Fingers crossed
.....hum a married woman!!! I 💬 she had a crushhhhhhhh
@@anastaiber952 I don't think she had a crush. I think that the texts were sent as a cover because Brian planned to beat john up. Maybe because Colin was in trouble with the law and John was the one who charged him
Really great point!!! Isn't it also a bit odd that after they found John that she never checked in to see how Karen was doing or to collaborate the story with Karen as she did with carrie?🧐
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipdid she just stop being concerned?
the problem with this case is that the deceased's injuries just don't seem to match being backed into by a car
Yes I agree and they say they found 47 or 48 pieces of tail light in the yard that is crazy unbelievable not believable
Im shocked a prosecutor took this case.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip and the injuries to his face and the deep lacerationd on his arm were caused by what? falling on a soft soggy wet lawn?
Among MANY other problems w this case! They need to find out who REALLY killed John and give justice to his family!
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip what is snarky about pointing out that the deceased's injuries do not match the alleged cause of the injuries?
This women really thinks she’s powerful
She sure does and she doesn't realize how much more she is hurting her case. Caught lying. Editorializing every answer except her side. Her side are yes and no answers and for Karen's side every answer has to be everything BUT the answer. They did it. She lied and so did the girl on the stand now.
She is powerful. She’s not going to bow down…would you? She’s not on trial here geez
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip who was helping? who were thru helping they don't sound like they cared about Karen? they were so nasty to her the whole morning omfg the bitchiness, that's not help....she was helping herself to look for John she wasn't helping John or Karen or kerry she should have never organised where people should park or be looking out yhe window and door instead of enjoying the party at her house? who texts people where to park if they know the house, the area and if they are a cop? makes no sense. I don't text my friends where to park. It's all lies.
She's not on trial yet but looking into the future yes she will be on trial@@doreen1128
Actions do speak louder than words. Especially when those actions are typing "hos long to die in cold" hours before the victim was even found.
She's not on trial, you're right.
But she soon will be.
Why is it soooooo hard for her to answer a fucking question
Because she's lying! Snaggletooth has an attitude.
Exactly! Thank you for saying this.
Because she is still defending the narrative they created.
Because she is trying to keep her lie straight
@@AlishaMeadows Has everything to do with intelligence or lack of......!!!
I really hope the FBI steps in after Karen Read is found NG. The fish is rotting from the head.
Love this comment! I hope someone from fbi is watching this !
You must be British.
Jen McCabe is very defensive why is that?
I don't know if she's lying... but how do you go in front of numerous grand juries and not remember EXACTLY what she said. She is in front of a jury and doesn't remember everything that happened on the night and the next morning of a day her friend was found dead.
P.S. Can someone explain to me why they keep going on and on about parked cars?? I just started watching.
It's very hard to understand what it's like to be in a situation such as being on a witness stand testifying at a murder trial unless you have actually had to do this. It's easy to look at someone doing it and think about what you would do or say or how you would act or respond.
I have personally been in this situation. I can confidently say that it was way more complex than how I would have assumed it to be before hand. Some of the details are similar as the victim she is testifying about was someone she knew and claims was her friend. The trial I testified at was for the murder of someone I considered a friend. One major difference is I had never met, saw, or knew the person who killed my friend. I did not know this person existed until after I watched him shoot my friend. With that being said, the only thing I can think of to explain this womens behavior and demeanor, and the way she is answering or not answering the questions she is being asked that makes sense is that she is covering for someone or several someone's that are more important to her than her friends John and Karen. Period.
Cuz she's lying
@@joannephillips4110Jen McCabe and her husband are now saying Brian Higgins Jeep was parked out front behind Karen. They didn’t mention it in their prior testimony and they are the only ones who say it was there when Karen was there. Defense is trying to show her story has changed. They keep going on and on about it because she won’t give a straight answer or admit her testimony changed. I don’t know the significance of his jeep being there or not, it just looks less credible if a witness is so defensive or seems to have an agenda other than just stating what she saw
i hate when people act dense when you call them out on their BS lies
I’ve never seen a witness besides Amber Heard act like this. Why is the judge letting her talk so much when a simple yes or no answer should be given.
Have you seen Wendy Adelson testify? She was like this too
The judge is corrupt and in on the lie.
Jodi Arias
Someone who is innocent wouldn't be so defensive.
Right. Why would these questions be angering her so much unless they make her look guilty.
@@InspireFreedomForeverexactly
Watch the eye blinking and then the anger comes out, she knows no one is buying her story lies again
Jen McCabe, the master manipulator. She was all over the place making sure everyone get their story straight but she messed up real bad 😂😂
Yes, she does seem to have a rather high-powered perception of herself these personality styles do not like To be called out. What bothers me is that the house was not considered part of a crime scene (would you accept the people inside claiming Mr. O’Keefe never came in that house? I would not under these circumstances.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip Not a revelation, especially if they're trying to protect someone else and or because not all police officers like one another just because they share the same career discipline 👈
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip Maybe you should follow the trial. 🤦
She sure did 100%, She will be charge later
@@James-pq5tmWhen Karen gets acquitted The FBI will indict The Alberts, Trooper Proctor &Tully AND JEN MCCABE with their 3,074 page report‼️
If their goal was to testify and stop the harassment, they did themselves zero favors. I wouldn’t trust this girl to mow my lawn.
🤣
Right!! Don’t let her near you!! She’s a SAVAGE SNAKE!
Or watch my dog.
Butt dials 6 concecutive times within 19 minutes to the same person. Sure, I believe that one.
especially with an iphone. we don't have brick phones anymore. how many of us have made actual butt dials on an iphone/android now with a lock screen? makes 0 sense
They were trying to find John’s phone to put it with his body. It’s so obvious.
@@abelino6151Ohhhhhhh that’s why 💡
@@abelino6151wonderful point
This lawyer is perfection if you caught the questioning about when she loses her phone and what she would do to retrieve it. Call it one or two times, directly after asking about butt dialing. I'm praying the jury has the light go off just like the rest of us. She is definitely hiding something!
Watching Mr Jackson is like watching a well-choreographed ballet.
He is fabulous!
💯💯💯
He's magnificent!
@@AmyMeyer-h9c Alan Jackson is a surgeon it is a delight to watch ,Amy can I just say ,you are a woman and I am a woman, if Iwas testifying I would never bring my tongue out of my mouth and lick both corners of my mouth ,that is not lady like at all it’s so disgusting and disrespectful,she is a complete TRAMP !
No reasonable person would say a car missing 75% of the glass was just cracked. Her saying things like this just makes her seem like a hateful liar
She is a hateful, nasty liar!
They’re all liars but as you say Bev is a hateful liar. Full of arrogance & hate. And she has children whose schoolmates will let them have it. Mother of the year. And dumped a family dog.
She is a hateful liar!
@@Bronte866 you said bev but I think you meant jen mcCabe
Tell us your name and spell it please ? Prosecution: Objection! This judge:
Sustain!!! Lol
😂😂😂😂😂
Forreal I think she’s just so used to saying it!!
I cannot even deal! I am assuming most of us that have been watching this, are like me and watch a lot of these cases. So when I hear the prosecutor object and the judge say “sustained” to almost every single objection I am screaming out loud “ what is your objection???” Why don’t they have to explain their objection?? I can’t stand it!! 😂😢😅
@@gracehubbard83The Judge ruled NO speaking objections in pre trial hearings! It’s annoying. She doesn’t rule from the bench either!
Def: What color was the night sky?
Pros: Objection!
Judge: Sweetie dearest you are so brave, please answer. Go ahead.
Why are these people being so difficult on the stand? They just make this conspiracy theory seem even more plausible
It's very hard to understand what it's like to be in a situation such as being on a witness stand testifying at a murder trial unless you have actually had to do this. It's easy to look at someone doing it and think about what you would do or say or how you would act or respond.
I have personally been in this situation. I can confidently say that it was way more complex than how I would have assumed it to be before hand. Some of the details are similar as the victim she is testifying about was someone she knew and claims was her friend. The trial I testified at was for the murder of someone I considered a friend. One major difference is I had never met, saw, or knew the person who killed my friend. I did not know this person existed until after I watched him shoot my friend. With that being said, the only thing I can think of to explain this womens behavior and demeanor, and the way she is answering or not answering the questions she is being asked that makes sense is that she is covering for someone or several someone's that are more important to her than her friends John and Karen. Period.
That should be considered as to why they all appeared very argumentative & hostile at times
Do you think “conspiracy theory” means “anything the government currently disputes”?
If it walks like a duck,talks like a duck,it's a duck!! Let Karen go now!!! Hos long before an acquittal??!!
Hos long does it take to doctor a video?!!😅
I do believe that’s called “an uncooperative witness. 😂
Hostile is more like it. 😂
She's looking like a complete fool and liar at the same time.
@@stachiajenkins6578hostile witness has nothing to do with the attitude of the witness. Thats a myth.
This entire case doesn't pass the smell test.
She just reeks of lies and cover up..they all do
I agree with you ,but jenn McCabe is the mastermind behind all this ,how in the name of God does she sleep at night I cant even imagine being Karen,even though I believe she knows the FBI are on it ,she is such a hateful woman ,she wad right on the stans when she said the harassment people said she will never live a normal life again she was truthful about that !
She needs to be charged with contemt with her arrogant counter replies
Who is she in relation to this case?
@@ainokea911she’s a lady who was in the party when John died, and when she “found out” that John was missing, she sent Karen on a wild goose chase, and was one of the “witnesses” to the “confession” that is evidenced to have never happened.
This woman is jealous of Karen and clearly lying about her. She is jalous of her her intelligence, money, status and more.
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I agree
I absolutely agree! I've said this long ago. She complains about being harassed and she acts just like a mean girl that hasn't martured since high school!
There must be other witnesses with a better memory and hopefully were designated drivers. Obviously she had been drinking.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipwhat’s up Jen? How you doing baby? Wanna chill? I’m into Skeletor
I don’t like this woman
No one else does either 🤣🤣🤣
She’s arrogant and aggressive …
She’s such an ego manipulator, she even argues with her own statements to twist it into something that fits her narrative at the time! I’m hoping the jury sees through it!
Why’s she mad? She said she wanted to know what happened to John but when questioned by the defense proves otherwise.
My thoughts also- if she was truly innocent in all of this she would be much less annoyed and bothered by the questions. She’d answer them directly.
@@KyP-xq4rzyou're exactly right I was thinking the same thing
exactly. couldn’t have summed it up any better. every time Jenn McCabe gets hung up on a question she looks at the jury, mustering all the authenticity possible for a guilty party, and reinforces her role of ‘distraught friend’ and reiterates how upset she was with finding John.
And she keeps repeating that she turned her phone over willingly.
Quick, someone get her a gold star for that so she can get the acknowledgement she is seeking for this and shut the eff up about it.
If Ms. McCabe was being truthful there should be no reason for her anger & agitation that behavior puts up red flags to me.
Damn…you don’t forget your truthful answers…you DO however forget lies… Ma’am… stop lying…
Right
She thinks she's a cop. They do the same thing on thecstand
If I’m on this jury , not liking her answers.
If I’m on the jury SHE is Karen Reads “reasonable doubt” and bc of this woman Karen walks 💯🙄it’s sufferable.
She needs to be charged with perjury!
Obviously!!!
Can't believe I am typing this....but love the defense attorney!
Same 😊Quite a change!
Us too
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipyou know he's good. C'mon now, admit it😊
@@marshapieroni6677 she’s either an Albert or McCabe don’t bother 😂
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipthey are winning the case which is the foundation of the massive civil case for malicious prosecution and JOK’s estate also suing. They’re done. So is MSP. They won’t be trusted until heads roll and they will.
Jens butt frantically dialed 19 times to the same person? What are the odds?
5 text in 13 min? What is that?
She was trying to find his phone to delete ring footage!! So obvious!! Like a guy said on here “ all the butt dialing, bunch of assholes all talking all night”!! 😂
Big butt
I guess that would be called butt redialing😂😂
And it was six times in 19 minutes to the same person...
I am shocked this woman is so dry and lacks of empathy for Karen and her arrogant attitude is pouring out of her pores, she is angry and really not a nice vibe at all, which usually denotes guilt and untruthful circumstances. Whatever happened that night, if it was her husband in the snow, she would have gone ballistic, and her attitude towards a woman screaming for help, screaming for her partner’s sleeping away from life and in shock is nasty, really awful people around Karen, whether she was framed or not, it’s clear there is no good sentiment at any levels.
I agree.
Damn, this shit is sketchy as hell! When police conduct interviews for a MURDER INVESTIGATION don’t they usually have the people involved go to the POLICE DEPARTMENT for interviews instead of at the PERSONS HOUSE and aren’t those interviews usually RECORDED???
Exactly!
Yes! Exactly.
Yes, and they don’t use a leaf blower on a crime scene. They also don’t put evidence in red solo cups! They secure the scene and call another department to bring them evidence bags, evidence vials, evidence boxes, etc. etc. etc., if their own department doesn’t have these items. They also document everything at the scene! They photograph the body, if possible. They document where the blood is at! They most certainly DONT scoop up the snow with blood on it and not label where this blood was recovered from! Horrible example of “police work”
Yes. 100%. I was an eye witness to a murder of one of my friends and absolutely that is what happens. Almost every single thing I have heard so far about how this case has been handled since the first moment is being conducted the polar opposite of how the case I was a witness to and also had to testified at the trial was. This shit is blowing my mind.
@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip If they do in fact never find out that will be awful and it certainly seems like it’s headed in that direction! I just want to see John and all who loved him get the justice he and they deserve and the right people punished for it! I would hate to see him become a cold case sitting on a shelf somewhere! He risked his life everyday to protect and serve his community and he deserves better than that!
These lawyers are good, and the defensiveness alone makes me wonder.. but, I can’t help but think, what if Karen didn’t have money?
What if this happened to someone who didn’t have the ability to pay attorney fees?
An innocent person would no doubt be taking the fall..
This isn’t justice.
It's exactly what they've done to countless others a million times in places like Canton. The McAlberts, the DA, the judge, the Canton & State Police are used to framing innocent people and getting away with it. Who's got the money to hire someone like Alan Jackson and fly him in from LA to fight their endless corruption? If the factual circumstances documenting their criminal conspiracy weren't so compelling, and the media attention so widespread, they'd go through the motions and simply walk away again. They didn't anticipate and weren't prepared for such a well prepared legal defense, and it has really taken them by surprise for the first time in their lives.
Welcome to the two-tiered justice system.
This has been my thought as well. Us poor folks haven't got a chance!
That’s how life has always been…money gives you the best shot at life. Financial freedom is the ultimate goal in life. Don’t left people fool you into thinking you’re supposed to be humble and poor to enter the kingdom of heaven. Heaven is while you’re alive not while you’re dead
Like the entire Black community! ( Not excluding others communities)
Her smirks are not an issue but kR is being chastized for her facial expressions? Double standard
This woman is a monster
Now imagine being on the jury and listening to this. If I was the commonwealth, I would be furious at these witnesses if she is guilty because their behavior alone is tanking this case. We have all dealt with liars and no one likes being lied to or people who nitpick every single thing.
A hot monster.
Typical upper middle class soccer mom who thinks a lot of herself. She seems very catty.
@@LRodriguez-c9sWhat is a soccer mom? It seems obvious lol but maybe it's not
@@LRodriguez-c9sJen is the nation enquirer of Canton IMHO
The woman is an obvious psychopath. Even the most innocent person would be more nervous in this situation. She is way too calm and collected. Reminds me of Jodi Arius.
In situations like this you really are damned if you do or damned if you don't. React too over the top you're guilty. React too timidly also guilty.
Who cares, she's hot.
@@garybeck-t3vHot?? Jennifer?? Are your standards that low? 😅
@@garybeck-t3vwow! Your 2 brain cells and a synapse deduced that all on their own?? Good for you!!
@@thelastroseofsummer2817I agree with you on that. However, she has a very selective memory. She is over the top with having him find certain statements statements
What really happened to the dog? My stepdad used to be retired Detective Sergeant and no way would he stay inside the house with a deceased officer on his front lawn. That’s not rational…
I think the dog wasn’t there by morning and his daughter took her . Even the most mild dogs will react and I assume they didn’t close their doors because they had a dog .
Nope. That is someone who doesn't want to be seen on bodycam cause they probably have injuries or are terrible liars.
it's not rational either that the police did not inquire when the house if anybody heard anything, and why they never entered that home under subpoena
The owner rehomed it
Nor demanded to know exactly what happened to the dog just like any other piece of evidence. They killed that dog because it’s bite and DNA would’ve matched what was on the officer’s body.
She must have walked to her vehicle blindfolded! What a liar!!! We see through your answers Jen. Who are you protecting Jen?? Who are you lying for Jen???
Jen is doing everything for JEN! Lying beast!!!!
The truth doesn’t have to be “refreshed” Jennifer. The conversation flows well when you just tell the truth.
She’s very hostile…. I wonder why she’s so defensive?!?
Because the defense atty as an ahole.
She’s arrogant
Liars can’t remember the lies they have told .
Not what hostile means lol
Her way of just throwing everything she can karens way is a sign of a guilty person trying to point the finger to save her own butt shes too obvious
She needs to save her butt to dial 😅
Calling johns phone for an alibi of looking for him, or calling the phone that john lost while being killed?, so they can put his phone outside with him.
This woman is the typical “Karen”. We should now coin the phrase: “this is a Jennifer” 🤮🤮🤮🤮
😂 How about if someone is totally "Biased" as the judge is, we can say they are a "Bev" or "Beverly"
@@sleslie6395 YES!!! A Bev is perfect….hahahahahahaha
For the first time in years, Karen Read has made me unashamed to be a “Karen” with her grace and determination under pressure. Praying for her to be set free from this corruption. She hasn’t even had a chance to grieve the loss of John. 💔
Being a Jennifer myself, this should offend me. But at this point in the trial, I agree wholeheartedly 😂😂😂
@@jennloganditto. Lol.
If I were on this jury, her behavior would disgust me. Heck, most all of the prosecutions witnesses are all disgusting and obviously lying by being difficult about simply giving facts they already testified to 🙄
The truth is never difficult to remember, but lies are always hard to keep track of.
Why would anyone ever have to inform someone that John never came in the house if he didn't?
Exactly.
😂
Exactly. That says everything.
Yahtzee 💥
She sure hates Karen Read
Or just really loves herself.
She's in it for her.
@@JenniferMoleskior both
I agree, keeps giving her the evil eye between answers. But why?
@@notthatronjohnson1187Maybe bc Karen took her along for the ride all the while screaming at them and yelling “I hit him, did I hit him?” In turn, when they discovered the body of her friend, he’s dead. And Karen was the last person with John …
Seems like they all do. It shows the bias.
The vicious harassment we’re all reviving “ . The stop covering up for a murder and trying to blame an innocent women . Your life is not more valuable than Hers!
She has no clue why she would be harrased 😂
Poor Jen, likes to bring up all the harassment. Now with testimony she has an opportunity to show the world what a kind and generous human she is. That did not go well.
What was her obsession with watching for this particular vehicle and why, after seeing it come and go, did she lose interest in calling the victim?
If she couldn't get hold of John, why didn't she call Karen?
She didn't have Karen's. Karen had Johns niece call her.
@@DebraLuttrell-qx2il That's odd since they were "friends".
I 💬 this lady had a crush on J
@@DebraLuttrell-qx2ilI think you mean Jen. Karen didn't have Jen's number.
@@anastaiber952...or she probably was trying to set him up with someone from their circle. KR was an outsider whom its now apparent they hated with a passion even before that day hence why it may have been easy to frame her.
Im still witholding judgement on if i believe karen is innocent or not....but Bev seems to get quite disgruntled when the defense starts making good points...and Jen would have been much more believable as a person if she could just admit she didnt know something or remember. Instead, she skirted nearly EVERY SINGLE question as if she was fishing to see where it was going and seemwd to fix her narrative answers to fit his questions as they came along. It doesnt matter anymore if she really isnt lying...she gave the jury a hefty bit of reasonable doubt with her actions here.
Bev? Another friend of the deceased?
I agree. And what’s very interesting and relative to this, the lead investigators text messages to his friends will turn out to be vile gossip about Karen originating from Jen, passed to Proctors sister (Courtney) over 67 phone calls in less than 8 months, then communicated to Proctor in his daily calls to his sister!
This women lies so much. She can’t remember her lies so she needs to be shown the buffoonery that she said.😅
And you believe her family beat 😅okeefe to deatb?? 😅😅😅 no way, a drunk karen backed into her drunk boyfriend, that's what happened
Facts 💯💯
This judge refuses to say “Overruled” instead, she will say “No, I’ll let him have it” or “Do you know?” “Can you answer that?” “ Did you?” I’d love to know what the difference is between the attorney asking the question or her asking it. It’s so weird. I have never seen any judge do this.
Yeah was wondering if this is a commonwealth thing
Extraordinary. I’ve never seen it either, and it’s really going to mess with the appellate record. I’m not at all sure that this judge knows basic civil procedure.
This is probably the most hated woman in America now.
I think Meghan Markle is currently the most hated woman in America, according to polling. But this woman could usurp or at least equal her as you say.
@@Bronte866😂😂😂😂
Yep…keep it up Jenn!
she is the most hated woman from all the people in the UK as well how despicable !
Evil woman!
She is impossible!!! The judge should step in yes or no!!!
the judge is just as dirty as all the cops
"Tell him the guy never went in the house" wow!!! Reasonable Doubt.
Defense attorney was exceptional!!! Totally lays out their plotting, calls out the lies. BUSTED
Sheis the MOST HATEFUL woman ive ever heard. guilty, GUILTY, GUILTY 😮
She is so hostile!
She is unreal. You can see she feels above this. She can’t answer questions because she has to think about which story she is talking about.
It DOES look really really bad and IF she had nothing to do with anything and isn’t lieing I hope she reads every comment about herself so she can see how rude she appears and disrespectful to the court, for what reason?! Can you imagine being married to her or working with her 😮🙄🤦🏼♀️😭 I could NEVER. I don’t know if Karen ran him over or not but as her being someone from inside the house if I was on the jury I would be side eying her so hard her name could be “reasonable doubt” for Karen 💯🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️ She seems like a rude, condescending, b word. Also if they saw John get there why didn’t they go look outside when he stopped texting, he could have simply been dropped off and so dr’nk he didn’t make it inside so when the plow came around it could have gotten him, they say it’s the biggest plow the town has, why wouldn’t they just go outside since he wasn’t answering but they knew he was just there and knew he had been drinking most of the ppl there were police they should have known to at the very least check to make sure he wasn’t passed out dr+nk outside in the snow 💯🙄🤦🏼♀️ Poor John he may never get justice but I definitely pray that no one is wrongly convicted and if anyone actually did this I hope they are sentenced.
She’s scared to answer any question without asking to look at a transcript to refresh her memory!!! She’s clearly lying through her missing teeth
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These people have terrible memory loss, I don’t believe anything they say, Albert had the basement floor dug up, sold the house 50,000 below market value, he and Higgins destroyed their phones, and we supposed to believe they had nothing to do with this? WOW!!!
They got rid of the dog and made sure it disappeared so they couldn't check to match any bite marks
@@deadmanswife3625 Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy will show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian & Colin Albert & Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️
@deadmanswife3625 Was the dog put down or given to another family? I miss that part of the story. Thank you.
@@sweeteypie590 hi I'm not sure who said it but I think it was Jen. She said the dog was in Vermont. But we don't know of course for sure
@deadmanswife3625 oh ok. The way this trial went. You can't believe anything they said.
Whos back here while waiting for the verdict lol
Me.
me too
Yup😂
Bev instructed them not to vote ahead of time and specified that they should review all of the evidence then vote. Bev is awful, I think this delay is her fault.
As in the words of ole McCabe “c-racked”. I love seeing her smug self caught in LIES.
If she doesn't go to jail for perjury I give up on our justice system
Then give up sweetheart.... our justice system is corrupted ❤
Don’t be silly and reactionary. We have the best justice system in the world; it is the gold standard. There is no intelligent argument otherwise and it is one of the main reason that people die most every day trying to get into this country. That is not anecdotal - that is fact. How oblivious. 🇺🇸
Every justice system has some corruption. Our justice system works better than any other in the world. The world looks to us to define their own systems of justice and has since our inception.Only a person uninformed of history and of the contemporary world doesn’t understand that.
The Mclieberts and friends all belong behind bars!!!!
Karen is innocent 💯👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
So what do you know? You were there?
Bot on bot confrontation here 😂😂😂😂
Jen says theres nothing evil here lol.. Yeah right Jen 😠
I would talk about the case every day if it happened at my house?!
Jennifer McCabe needs to take a lie detector test !!!!!
This lawyer is fire!
I don’t know how he does it id go ahead and give up my law license, most disrespectful witness I’ve ever seen!
No one is home here. Or she is just playing it that way. Not sure. But if your going to lie you better have a good memory. If you have nothing to hide why be so testy?
I called the phone company this morning explaining that all 345 calls on my bill this month were all Butt Dials and that I shouldn't be held accountable for that bill.
345 butt dials???? Yeah right?!!! 😮😮😮
LOL😂😂
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Everybody is a “talker” according to Jen?!!!!! 😅😅😅
@@tobydean7097 remember when she said that Carrie Roberts was a talker? Then later on, Jen is talking to the girls because she’s a” CHATTY PERSON “? 👏👏👏😂🫤😂🫤 JEN……CAN’T EVEN MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND TO GET YOUR LIES STRAIGHT😂😂😂😂😂😂
she is an arrogant liar .......can not answer a question without contemplating an answer just like her husband
Were you there? These people have been constantly harassed in doing their children. Wouldn’t you be defensive when it comes to your family. I sure as heck would be. She’s not in trial. The murderer girlfriend is!
@@doreen1128 yes...protective of her sisters family and the hidden truth that she is also privy to. has nothing to do with being harassed
Bird's of a feather! 😕🐢
I do believe they were all harassed. Is TurtleBoy out of jail yet? Go look at his charges.
She’s way smarter than her husband. He’s a real dumb ass. I’d be snarky too if I had to talk to him everyday!!
Jen is a liar!!!
No, your princess Karen Read is a LIAR.. And a murderer.
She's not a Jen, she's 100% a Jennifer lol. Jen's are better than this.
Jen swallowed a tooth!
I want to see how many people will be charged with perjury after this ! Esp Jenn
With perjury and murder
@@James-pq5tm yes 👍🏻 !!
@@James-pq5tm correct ! John needs justice and Karen deserves compensation after this, esp with her health issues and added stress. Now the entire world knows about them because of proctor!!! Everything will come out !! I can’t believe they’re even bringing her back to court it’s disgusting , and it’s even more disgusting how they have John’s family fooled !! Brian wanted Karen , and I believe John and Brian got into it with the owner of the house and his son and he was jumped and they threw him outside .. I’m from mass and the cop from dighton mass ? He even said her tail light was cracked !!!! He didn’t lie about it nor wanted to be involved he was the only good cop on that stand that was honest
Shame on the judge for allowing this woman to sit with the O'Keefe's family during closing arguments.
How can this jury be deadlocked?! These people are corrupt!
She's very cocky! Not a good look for her.
Not Cloe the dog attacked him..she did...look at those kanine teeth when she's angry!!!!
That woman looks like she has rabies when she speaks.
OMGosh, she is a shapeshifter!
Has anyone asked if there was a full moon that night?
There was a point she leaned forward and it scared the hell out of me, I wish I had the timestamp! It was scary!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 funny
how in the world do the cops find or somebody find a body on the front lawn of a house and the police do not check with the owners of that property if that person is related to or has any connection to anybody in that house and further and investigation of that propertysomething is sure fishy
They did. But it was SO obvious that Karen Read drunkenly ran over O Keefe that the investigation turned to her and not the innocent witnesses.
An entire radius of that property “should have been considered a crime scene” Anyone who has worked a time crime scene would have done that unless…..????????
Pretty easy when the people inside are all cops and the lead detective is a close friend of the family.
This is so dirty.
@@jeffhampton7405 That is very true & it all makes for a convoluted narrative leading to doubt & questionable intent. I'm hoping at some point actual evidence will be submitted in order to determine facts instead of what seems to be a tail of deception⁉️
@@jeffhampton7405 Observing from the sidelines I have to say 👉 there are so many convoluted stories, the more you hear the more doubt is created & too many questions w/o answers. Most of all the lack of convincing evidence but instead a poorly constructed tale that weaves a web of fabrications 👈👈👈👈
No one should ever be harassed, but her attitude is not helping the prosecutor at all. We will never know the truth.
She makes me sick. Just tell the bloody truth. If you are telling the truth the story never changes. You also won't need to refresh your memory. Obnoxious !
She’s very strange, she gets agitated very easily with this lawyer..he’s asking straight forward questions, don’t know what her problem is.
Problem is she knows exactly what happened.
Her problem is she's a textbook narcissist.
Imagine being harassed for 2 years.
@@debkb7imagine being framed for 2 years?.
Imagine being dead for 2 years
12 statements and never once stated what she's trying to say now.
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