@@eboethrasher you mean the same Blizzard who just put out terms of service that tells you that if you don't agree to them, you don't get to play any of the games you BOUGHT? That Blizzard?
Definitely agree. It's something overlooked in rpg games since at least Garrus from Mass Effect series. I'd take my friendship with Garrus over most video game romances. Bros before you know.
At least like it was in The Witcher 3, where if you haven't romanced any of the two main sorceresses, you instead had an ending with your adoptive daughter...
"As for BG3 and its characters - they now belong to WOTC and I think they understand how important they are for the community. I trust that they'll be treated with respect." Ah yes... because if there's one thing that people associate with WOTC, it's respect. /s
@@theincrediblefella7984 That depends on what their licensing agreement is. It could be that they just paid for the license or it could be that they were paid to make the game.
I’ve never even heard of Larian studios before bg3. Now that I’ve played that game and learned more about the company itself, I’m going back to play their older games, and will buy all of their games they make in the future. They’ve earned not just customers, but fans.
Even there older titles like divinity 2 ego draconis (action rpg) still hold up pretty decently to this day. I would recommend playing it if you enjoy action rpg. and anymore $$$ Larian can get it is well deserved
There's currently support for 70% of all missing subclasses from DnD, there's also a good chunk of missing spells from 5E added, so far these types of mods feel so natural in the game, like they were supposed to be in the game from the start, it's fascinating, some very specific assests needed for some very specific subclasses are also coincidentally there in the game, like the giantification effect needed for Rune Knight and Path of the Giant, bug swarms for Swarmkeeper, genie stuff for Genie patron Warlock etc., I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional, Larian are known for loving the modding community
@@noone12748That's great for those of you who are D&D fans and want those kind of things. But I can't be the only one who wants more stories, not so long or detailed perhaps, but more stories. Take a look at Factorio. The base game has always been mod friendly. Smaller mods added extra this or that, or Qol features. But then some fanatic modders made complete game overhaul mods, creating new adventures. Some of those modders have now been taken onboard as official Devs for the new Factorio 2 and DLC. Look at City Skylines or TPF2 these games only exist because of the modders who built onto the base game. That is what I am hoping for. A little DLC from modders, exploring Halsins history or Astarions or... etc.
@@noone12748 Weird by the sounds of people who actually make the mods they are not all that supportive. Secondly I wouldn't be surprised if WotC started going after the non-SRD content mods, definetly none will make into the official platfrom.
Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro have been loudly quiet since the official announcement of Larian departure. It means exactly what we think it means. They're gonna do whatever they want, they absolutely don't care about Larian, The community, or the characters. Greed is their way of life.
I keep seeing this take and it makes me really sad that it's always presented as a good thing. The fact Larian is so determined to provide a complete product is considered a 'unique' trait of the company is just depressing. ... It's also untrue, since there are countless smaller companies that have provided support for their games above and beyond anything Larian has done or will do for BG3. But it does suck that larger publishers and developers so rarely display this sort of commitment.
CDPR used to be viewed this way by a lot of gamers post Witcher 3 and before Cyberpunk released. As long as Swen is there and in charge I don't see Larian being capable of fumbling the bag like they did though.
While I respect their grind, this also means that BG3, like MANY other games we like to shit on, came out as a "much" poorer product on launch. Many of the things they added felt really needed in my run. Not like actual DLC where I can come back and replay it, but parts of the quality of life, mechanics or story that were just missing. And while I really loved my time with my campaign, there were some actual flaws and gripes (some of them now fixed) that marred my experience with the game. Sure, I really should always buy games 1 year after they are out. That's usually my policy, but with the rave reviews and the kind of game it is, I expected it to be completely and completely functionnal. It wasn't.
@@AeschylusShepherdthere’s no bringing it back, it was never there. The idea that it was cut content is a myth based on a misunderstanding of a poorly worded post that was clarified as soon as it was no longer a spoiler to do so.
I feel like BG3 is the first example in a video game of the phrase "too much of a good thing can be bad." This game is so well done and so amazing that I'm just not ready for it to be over in the sense of I've been wanting there to be entirely other stories branching off the main quest. I was thinking about how incredible a DLC was in the past for expanding a game like Blood & Wine for the Witcher 3 and just letting my mind run with the possibilities. I respect Sven's decision and trust Larian (a rare statement for me when directed towards a game dev these days) I'm just bummed I wont be able to enjoy a new story at any point within BG3.
I hope not.. if so it's like Bethesda going from Elder Scrolls to Starfield and we all see how that turned out. I just want fantasy games, not Sci fi personally.
@@blackburned Well I think it s going to be something along the lines of Mass Effect with different alien races . That would give players choice with what race to pick and what abilities they would have. I think Sven is a better writer than Pagliarulo and so I think the game will be good.
@@blackburned Each to their own and i can understand your preference, but I like both. However I'm sure Larian swapping genres won't be as disastrous as Bethesda and starfailed!
Well, I think it's safe to say that BG4 is not happening. I mean, not just from Larian but at all. And maybe it's a good thing, considering Hasbro's greed and inability to do their own IPs justice. As for me, I'm eagerly awaiting some kind of modding software like Creation Kit for BG3. That would undoubtedly explode the already pretty lively modding scene. I want BG3 to live very long.
Honestly I think it's time to move on from the city of Baldur's gate and to some other regions, hell maybe move on from the sword coast all together. There are so many other great locations available.
Bg4 is gonna come out regardless . It’s too much of a money grab for hasboro to neglect . It might not be in the next 5 years but it’ll definitely happen in 10 maybe 20 years
Eh, It'll be dead in a couple of years. I mean, it already partially is with barely anything to do in the game. Surely won't live up to some legendary names in crpg industry (neither it deserves to anyway).
I'm honestly filled with a degree of hope for the future of gaming. Bg 3 was loudly and widely praised for everything it did, rightly so. And it sold very well, and won a lot of awards. So I'm quite excited to see how fantasy gaming tries to recreate or pay homage to bg 3. And that the general standard for gaming, writing, characters, story, combat etc, have all been permanently raised. We deserve games of quality, and let's continue to speak with our wallets and social media. This game finally got me into dnd, and now I'm hungry for more, even from other studios, even if it can't live up to the same quality as no team comes close to Larion. It would be so cool to see campaigns get turned into full fledged games.
Yeah no, I hope crpgs will continue to be their own thing rather than try to copy bg3 because of its bloated success. Or we might just see the whole genre dead.
@@As-tray Bloated success? Do you disagree with the level of attention it's received? And I'm not asking for copy and pasted bg 3 clones. I'm hoping the takeaway other companies have is to increase the general scope and quality of their games. By being like BG 3, I mean having a wide cast of main and side characters, extensive story and map etc. And imho, there hasn't been a good CRPG in a while. Witcher 3 I'd reckon was the last awesome one to shake the genre.
There are many genres that were killed by one great game everyone after tried to imitate - I hope they don't try to "pay homage" to BG3 by copying its success but find a way to do something unique.
@@BlobBlobkins Shadowrun! Shadowrun would be amazing from Lyrian. And then Fallout! And then Divinity 3 on PS6. I would love to see all 3 of those games dropped in the same year next year or 2026. I can’t wait I’m too impatient for their games!
@xJarlaxle Fun fact: There's barely any other IP that has gotten so much love in video games than the Forgotten Realms - there's a total of 46 single player games (plus 10 big expansions for Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind dale and Neverwinter Nighs 1&2) and 6 online games set in the Forgotten Realms, starting all the way back with Pool of Radiance back in 1988.
@@xJarlaxleNot saying it should. I like the Realms -I've played a good amount of the video games and I have played a lot of campaigns in the Realms at the table as well. There are quite a few more D&D video games in addition to the Realms btw - all in all there are more than 100 D&D video games.
Karlachs ending being the way it is is a deliberate writing choice. They don’t have to change their creative decisions because some people don’t like it. It’s a tragedy. She deserves the happiest of endings but doesn’t get it because life isn’t fair and you don’t always get what you deserve.
@@thisishowitallends9321 astarion in his good ending cannot go out in the sun ever again. Gale in his good ending must apologise to his abuser and do her bidding again. Laezel in her good ending is at the start of a battle against an extremely powerful foe and her humongous army, with only a relatively small rebellion at her side, after having alienated herself from everyone and everything she knew. Shadowheart in her good endings either has to kill her parents just when she got them back, or live forever with shars curse. Wylls good ending risks his father dying, and his good decisions at the beginning of the game mean he has been cursed to be a devil for the rest of his life with nothing he can do to change it. All of the good endings have some bittersweet aspect to them, because life isn’t fair. Karlachs story is more tragic than the others, yes. But it’s not like she’s the only one with sadness in her ending and everyone else’s life is full of sunshine and roses and not one single problem. The unfairness of life effects ALL of them, it’s just that Karlach is hit particularly bad because her story is a tragedy. Do you think that if one story has to be an outright tragedy all of them do?
@@roanc3709 yeah I get it, it still sucks though. I kinda hate how they set it up that there might be a way out during the game. I also think with the amount of freedom of choice in this game, there should be an option to get a more satisfying ending even if you have to work harder for it.
@@newgroundtv they didn’t set it up though. From the beginning of act 2 onwards they tell you repeatedly, and from multiple sources, that there is nothing that can be done.
Still makes me sad,,,, as I was really invested in BG 3's future. I watched all the interviews of the voice actors who were all on board for more content. Even talk of BG 4 now I am just coping.
Sad? Dude they released what .. like almost 100 gigs of content in free updates including new quests and voiced dialogues and companion content included, and they are still doing that. That's just ridiculous amount of work honestly. And obviously everything has to come to end, and it's a good thing. They need to polish BG3, then rest, then start doing new things.
The fact that Larian had talked about doing BG4 and DLC makes me believe that this was an internal issue prob over money with Hasbro. It’s no secret that WOTC and Hasbro have been bleeding money lately so them trying to renegotiate with Larian to get more money after BG3’s success wouldn’t be surprising. Though it’s disappointing I am happy for Larian and can’t wait for their next project and who knows, maybe if Hasbro gets bought out Larian could swoop in and negotiate for the Video game rights for DOD or just BG.
It's probably a problem with Hasbro. They and WoTC are in a state of collapse and they bemoaned the fact that they were only able to get 90 million out of the game due to contract. I would bet they offered a contract for DLC and/or a sequel and wanted the lion's share of the profits. I have no positive feelings about any follow-up that comes out of them having the rights. I gave Wizards the last dollar they will ever get directly from me a few years ago after more than 30 years playing D&D.
I think a sci fi crpg from them would be an interesting thing. They probably want to work on something different then fantasy considering they've done that for like the last 20 years. Shadowrun is cool. It would still be familiar as you still have "fantasy" races and magic in that setting even though its a cyberpunk world.
I kind of imagine it being the opposite of destiny. bungie wanted to make a fantasy game- but knowing that their skills sat very heavily in shooting and sci fi, they decdid on a sort of mix as a "high" sci fi as i have come to call it (idk if that term is already used, it just became the easiest way i could explain destinys setting to people who have never seen it lol). I think Larian could really excel in the sci fi space, if thats what they are actually considering. Mass effect already proved these types of rpg elements could easily transalte over into the genre... and man imagining "mass effect, but better" gets me very excited, as that was my first rpg series. honestly thinking back to destiny, mixing in high fantasy tropes like they did could create an amazing world in larians hands... more of what i actually had hoped destiny was going to be, actually.
Larian truly is a Light in the Gaming industry. But it was the WolfheartFPS channel and members who kept it warm and Exciting. The Pack will follow Larian with interest! Just Let us know all the details Wolf! Great info as usual!
Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro are both busy self-destructing, so I get Sven not wanting to do anything new. Hopefully in a few years, things will stabilize enough that he does decide to do BG4.
I do agree - but at the same time, this might be the best path toward a renaissance in the CRPG genre. Larian will continue doing amazing things in the genre, so we're not really losing out overall. Meanwhile, the legacy and value of BG3 creates a new opportunity to another studio which did not exist in the CRPG genre before: the chance to leap ahead in sales and brand value, and the pressure to either get it right or avoid the IP altogether. For now, I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic about the impact of Larian Studios - and that goes not only for BG3 but also for their decision to focus elsewhere than the Forgotten Realms for now.
@@Aedrion-Wizards of the Coast own the Dungeons and Dragons IP, and Hazbro owns WOTC. They attempted to change an agreement they've had with the community for decades *right* before they released the DnD movie. The change had the potential to cause many companies that created 3rd party material for DnD go broke, or struggle to break even, and so caused an incredible response from the community. Their was a push to mass unsubscribe from their digital toolset, and it was so successful that they decided to put the core rules of 5th edition DnD (which is what BG3 was based off) into Creative Commons. However, enough fans of the game jumped to other TTRPGs that the movie brought in far less money that Hasbro was banking on, and they've been clawing to get their reputation back ever since.
To add to what Crimson Witch said, WotC also went through a recent mass layoff. I suspect that when Swen made his remarks at the GDA awards criticizing companies who lay off employees at times when they're making large profits, and losing a lot of institutional knowledge in the process, this is what he was referring to. Supposedly out of the entire WotC team that Larian worked and liaised with when they were making BG3, not a single one remains employed at WotC. So yeah, the mood and working relationship between the companies now must feel very different. There's also rumours (but these are unconfirmed) that Hasbro/WotC was heavily leaning on Larian to add in things like microtransactions to BG3, which I think we can all agree would be absolute red lines. So given all of the above, I think Swen wisely decided to cast off rather than stay and potentially be forced to engage in unsavory practices that they always stood against.
Hooray. We can expect Hasbro's "mark of excellence" on our favorite NPC's. Things I'M particularly looking forward to: Karlach's new Act III conversion to Christianity. Astarion develops a sudden obsession with NASCAR, even unlocking a very powerful piece of in-game armor that happens to look like a racing jumpsuit with DOZENS of brand Logos emblazoned on it (it is, of course, unremovable). The Dark Urge playthroughs now include s lot of "spooky" LEGO-themed content. Wyll "comes out" to his dad as a white man.
Just watch WotC hand Baldur's Gate 4 to modern day Bioware. Hahahaha! That would be hilarious and sad in equal measure. Larian really exceeded my expectations with BG 3. If A sequel is made some day, I hope they are involved.
Doubtfully, like Bioware making Dreadwolf, and the next ME, they don't need it, at least until 2028 or something, they literally don't have resources to start working on the game (switched team mostly on Dreadwolf to help with final stages of production, while simultaneously firing 50 something people last year)
I love when studios support mods. Between this and Stardew Valley (and probably others that don't immediately come to mind!), it's really encouraging to see these companies supporting independent creators, many of whom may become game devs themselves one day. It also creates a stronger sense of community and increases its playability in the long run. Major kudos to Larian for supporting their players' creativity!
For all the flak Bethesda gets they were one of the first bigger developers to embrace mods wholeheartedly. Mods are great and hopefully going forward this embrace of them will be done by more developers.
@@CrazyxEnigmaYeah. For all of Bethesda's shortcomings, they are one of the first to realize the potential of mods in extending the lives of their games. Now if only other companies like Capcom would realize this.
@@LucyCaranica It sounds like that's the plan! Which is really encouraging. But I also know it can be a challenge for devs. Fingers crossed they figure it out.
I am so glad they are not, don't get me wrong, but I think I'd almost be proud of buying a DLC expansion for BG3. The studio deserves all the praise they get and I hope their next project is just as successful for them. Once upon a time DLCs were...worth something, but nowadays they are shallow cash grabs, hell, some AAA games are shallow cash grabs. Let's hope BG3 changes the industry but I am not that naive.
Always felt the evil endings having no epilogue felt very lack luster.. I'm happy they are adding more endings, I'm 800 hours into the game and still havent beat Honor mode lol.
I'm around the same number of hours and in Act II of an Honor Mode Durge playthrough.. camp casters have been hugely helpful. I have a life cleric, transmutation wizard, and college of lore bard for my camp casters. Best of luck when you try honor mode :) it is hard but doable
I wish they’d give us the option to (ending spoiler) choose to not forcibly control our companions after dominating the crown. It’s not at all what my intention was. I’d rather one of em kill my character
Wizards engages in exactly the type of practices that Swen has a problem with, so I continue to maintain this is partially motivated by that. Why make money for a company that doesn't align with your ethics? My guess is they will never work together again.
There is a Larian documentary, its been out for years; everything said then (in the documentary : on youtube), still rings true now. Swen is a man who has been harshly tested, and came out on top. Now he just shares what hes been given.
Wizards of the Coast are going to drive D&D into the ground in similar manner as Disney did with Star Wars they are on the lunatic crusade, trying to make the perfect virtue signal package that no real gamers want to touch, except the crazies 5e already broke d&d lore anyways. I fully support Larian getting away from them before getting infected by the mind rot I wouldn't fear for the companions, except one might be put in a wheelchair or get a few extra victim traits added
The main thing I would really like to see added to BG 3 is full custom parties in singleplayer, as for the future plans of Larian they have not disappointed me with DOS 2 and BG 3 so I believe in whatever they have planned.
The fact that WoTC owns these characters is anything BUT good news.....in fact it's worse news than no good DLC or no BG4. WoTC and Hasbro are garbage companies run by garbage people. But I am excited for whatever Larian comes out with it in the future.
“If you want a happy ending, it depends on where you stop the story”. I would say Larian has ended the story well, and we should be excited to see what they come with next.
Larian: we want to work on our own IPs. Fans: would be nice if Larian worked on Electronic Arts IPs...🤡 Reality: Dragon Age Dreadwolf reported to release in 2024.
Though I would like a good sci-fi type RPG, I think Larian might do another game with fantasy elements... though something like Shadowrun would potentially fill both elements.
I am just wating for DoS 3. BG3 is one of the greatest game ever made, but Larion is working with a lot of creative constrains because they have to make happy the OG BG community & has to follow the D&D rules. With DOS Larion can go full on crazy with creativity & that's what I am looking forward to.
Let go of this universe, it is dead, just like its creators. Larians need their own universe, so that later all sorts of pigs with copyrights don’t come to them with claims
Larian: we want to work on our own IPs now. Fans: I hope they do an Electronic Arts game next...🤡 Reality: Dragon Age Dreadwolf reported to release in 2024.
I just did the House of Hope for the first time, and Raphael's room of portals made me wish that the room was their springboard for new DLCs. It makes me sad to know that we'll never see it.
I constantly say, I think Sven wants to try to do another action RPG like Larian attempted with Divinity 2: Ego Draconis but without the publisher restraints that have made Sven unhappy with the final product in Divinity 2's case.
WOTC and Hasbro will ruin future BG3 and will absolutely bastardize the characters. They are much like Disney in that they don't understand how their own IP works and doesn't understand what the people who buys things in those IPs want. Since Larian doesn't own DnD it's something I expected would happen, and much like Star Wars or Lord of the RIngs I'll be discounting anything that WOTC or Hasbro puts out regarding the companions, the events of BG3, or anything that is built on what Larian created. While I would certainly like to be proven wrong, the company's track record speaks for itself and I don't believe I will be wrong in this regard. After all, one doesn't sic mercenaries on a youtuber over trading cards if you're a decent company. As for Larian, I'll be following everything they do from here on out. They've earned my continued support and I'll be waiting with bated breath for their next masterpiece.
Thinking about bg3 being forgotten realms canon is wild to me... like, how does that work with all the endings? Should i make my next D&D character a cleric of gale, god of ambition and pray to gale every night?
Its gonna be similar to how bg 1 and 2 got integrated into canon they're gonna come up with a set of events and make them canon so probably the male white dragonborn durge will be the canon protagonist and the destroy the brain and reject bhaal ending will be canon ending.
when Sven "The Gigachad of Game Devs" Vincke says no DLC, what he really means he no cash-grab paid DLC, not no more content at all. To be fair though, adding real evil endings might get them more sales, because that's always been lacking in rpgs and there's always been demand for more. Also, for those who miss the companions... don't forget tabletop rpgs are a thing. What I really want is for Larian to take over Pathfinder from Owlcat. Owlcat are good, but they are not Great.
I was playing D&D when it was Gary Gygax's game. WotC ruined D&D for me and I won't play the table top game anymore. While I know BG3 is based on the 5th edition, it feels more like the original Advanced D&D that I used to play, and that's why I love it. I do miss all the old crazy dice we used to have to use. D20 is boring.
Yeah. We haven't seen anything decent from Bioware in a decade. Now when we have THE new standard for a fantasy RPG for the next X years, we'd love to see an epic sci-fi soap opera rpg=) or maybe something post apocalyptic in a true original Fallout style who knows) Or some steampunk or something dark and vampiresome) I'm all hands for Larian whatever they choose to do)
My thing is, there isn’t a company that can produce BG4 following how great BG3 was. I specifically feel okay making this statement because of how consumer friendly and community involved Larian was. I almost don’t want BG4 to be made unless it’s by Larian due to how money hungry other developers and companies have proved to be
Wizard of the coast 🤮 Greedy corporate that only cares of big money for no effort! I for one dont pay and buy games with p2w, loot boxes, battle passes, microtransactions or cash shops or expensive DLC or similar greedy actions. I sincerely hope Larian studios go on wuth some similar game as BG3. Why not Star wars 😊
My guess as to what the next video game will be. I believe they will keep the turn based strategy and either make it space themed or post-apocalyptic themed. They are the alternative playing styles for DnD. Now I don't think it will be heavily DnD influenced, but I do think they'll keep doing what works and what they're best at. Which I'm all for.
I mean in terms of the two main branches of the ending, I'm not sure what neutral would be. Either you destroy the Absolute or you become the Absolute. You can be evil as fuck and still get the 'good' ending. It's less the good ending and more the 'fuck Mind Flayers' ending.
It sounds like they are working within the bounds of their contract relating to the IP. They cannot create new content, just work within the original bounds. It sounds to me like it is a matter of money and a new contract. Larian is in a strong bargaining position, and there could be another Baldur's Gate game from them if the price is right. They are just not pursuing it publicly. They are setting their sights on another project until WotC pays them what they deserve to make another game. WotC could save money by going with a different developer and make a bad follow up. I do not have high hopes for WotC to make the financially sound decision to let Larian take the helm again. It was fun while it lasted though. Swen talked about the sound engineers recording ice at night, so clearly the next game is an NHL licensed hockey game.
On the bright side, hopes of a more ambitious Icewind Dale game are now far higher than before BG3. With both the franchise and the CRPG genre blowing up, as well as advancements in NPC AI, we can likely look forward to a renaissance in the RPG space.
@@tantalus_complex That's true. But what other company can make a IWD-game that holds up to Larian studios? Because no matter what company that is, people will compare it with Larian and what they did with BG3. Or rather, what other company dare to take that torch and run with it?
I would imagine they try to continue Divinity - Ego Draconis ? - Its quite old - but the latest one in terms of the Divinity lore - it would be an RPG - but not turn based. .. big thing in Ego Draconis was being able to turn into a Dragon and flying at extreme speed around the world instead of fast travel - while killing everything that was outside with your fire breath - would love if they continue there!
I know it would never happen but seeing how well they did bg3 I would love if they could just buy out the dragon age franchise and make one on the level of origins
Wotc and hasbro is driving it into the ground. Anything not done by larian is very questionable. Anything could happen but I would not hold your breath for wotc to do anything good.
Hopefully with mod support, modders will be able to do what they did with Skyrim and add in new locations and stories as DLC, maybe set in Avernus, or the Astral Plane, etc... we'll have to see how expansive the modding tools are, because Sven did say they aren't a tools company. Larian's next RPG will not be the big one. He said they don't have the tech to create it, nor do they know the specs for the next generation of console, so this coming RPG will be a building block towards it.
My hope is that Larian will work with CR. I know CR would love a video game using their IP, and Mercer worked on BG3 as consultant and voiced Minsc. It would be so cool. But Swen also said he has been working on the first act of the next game, so probably not..
I just wanna use all the infernal metal you can loot off the steelwatchers to fix Karlach's heart, that's all I want. Let me save my wife so she can stay in Faerun.
@@Lonewanderer30 there are no areas missing from the city. you surely didnt expect them to put the entirety of baldurs gate into a video game, right? that place is bigger than many real cities. and the avernus hub wasnt meant to be a hint to future dlc, it was literally just an area designed to show how raphael gets around. the game is finished. any dlc would have been an addition to a complete game (as dlc should be btw). them not making dlc doesnt make the game abandoned, its a finished game they arent adding more to. abandonment would be releasing a half finished game and doing nothing with it, not releasing a finished game, tweaking things based on feedback, and then continuing to give bug support until its no longer needed
the only way that Larian can ascend any higher at this point would be to do an anti DLC were they create optional content that you have to load download but that you receive a dollar for if you actually beat it and that money would be paid out of the baldur's gate 3 coffers that came from the bajillions of sales can you can you fucking imagine if Larian did that holy shit
There are portals in House of Hope that leads to places we all know. For example Neverwinter. I wish it could be a hint about "what's next". Will we have Neverwinter Nights 3? Icewind dale 3? I hope its going to happen
Karlach was babe for me. 😉👍 I actually found it interesting that my fondness or liking for her as a romance character gave me a sense of nostalgic vibes or familiarity to that of Liara Tsoni / tali mix . Regardless, all the characters , playable and non-playable, were so well done with such care for authenticity. It just reiterates again, the difference of approach to developers who make characters and developers, who make NPCs . For me, that difference is very striking . But yeah, love Karlach
In all that what I really heard is there would be some free choice endings but NOT new big content updates. So that is a different interpretation but to me it was a bummer not a good thing.
"I trust that they'll be treated with respect" Swen said pointedly through gritted teeth, making direct eye contact with Wizards of the Coast
'I trust they'll be treated with respect' Dumbuldore said calmly
under a sniper's crosshairs lmao
@AaronHawkes-rc2uk you mean he didn't yell at Harry?
Hasbro? Blizzard? EA? I do NOT trust them. I do not trust any of them with companions.
I don't either. I fear Astarion and Karlach in particular are going to be bastardized beyond recognition in the future.
How about Brazzers?
Blizzard is far more trustworthy than EA or Hasbro. They are not the same company they were under Activision.
@@eboethrasher you mean the same Blizzard who just put out terms of service that tells you that if you don't agree to them, you don't get to play any of the games you BOUGHT? That Blizzard?
@@jamesthera Like every game ever? grow the fuck up lol
I wish they'd add some friendship cinematics. Cutscenes.
Yes!
Definitely agree. It's something overlooked in rpg games since at least Garrus from Mass Effect series. I'd take my friendship with Garrus over most video game romances. Bros before you know.
@@jimmym3352Bros before farming implements
Karlach ending sort of counts. Don’t need to romance her in order to follow her to Avernus. Just wish Wyll didn’t come along.
At least like it was in The Witcher 3, where if you haven't romanced any of the two main sorceresses, you instead had an ending with your adoptive daughter...
I don't want Hasbro anywhere near Karlach.
Sorry, bro. They own her now.
@@motivateddad Well, yeah. We watched the same video.
Don't worry, this shit will be non canon
For people who care about the character anyway
Or Shadowheart. Just imagining the shit them and Sweet Baby Inc. will do to my baby girl infuriates me.
@@motivateddad They will find out very fast about gamer rage if they do anything to butcher any of their characters...
"As for BG3 and its characters - they now belong to WOTC and I think they understand how important they are for the community. I trust that they'll be treated with respect."
Ah yes... because if there's one thing that people associate with WOTC, it's respect. /s
I hate hearing that honestly
BG3 and its characters belong now to WOTC... our poor, sweet, favorite characters are doomed. I weep for their futures.
Let’s hope gamergate does something this time
Ah yes, the respect they showed going into 4e. /s
@@N7Prometheuslol no
Swen the gigachad doesnt want to label new things added to BG3 as DLC so it can be free for us💪
No, WotC would get a cut of the DLC. @@theincrediblefella7984
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@@theincrediblefella7984 That depends on what their licensing agreement is. It could be that they just paid for the license or it could be that they were paid to make the game.
Hasbro: We demand 50% royalties from any BG3 DLC!
Larian: *Free DLC*
Hasbro: **surprised pikachu face**
@@ickyfistThey already have said multiple times they paid Hasbro for the license.
I’ve never even heard of Larian studios before bg3. Now that I’ve played that game and learned more about the company itself, I’m going back to play their older games, and will buy all of their games they make in the future. They’ve earned not just customers, but fans.
Even there older titles like divinity 2 ego draconis (action rpg) still hold up pretty decently to this day. I would recommend playing it if you enjoy action rpg. and anymore $$$ Larian can get it is well deserved
DOS2 (def. edition) truly is a blast, and really offers some challenges gameplay-wise. Absolutely a must-play. The music is great as well!
DOS2 combat is absolute insanity
I really like divinity origins :)
Mod support for BG3 are potentially the future for our beloved companions.
There's currently support for 70% of all missing subclasses from DnD, there's also a good chunk of missing spells from 5E added, so far these types of mods feel so natural in the game, like they were supposed to be in the game from the start, it's fascinating, some very specific assests needed for some very specific subclasses are also coincidentally there in the game, like the giantification effect needed for Rune Knight and Path of the Giant, bug swarms for Swarmkeeper, genie stuff for Genie patron Warlock etc., I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional, Larian are known for loving the modding community
Ooh. Especially if one of the mod authors ends up getting enough money together to pay some of the original voice actors for new voice acting.
I know I love it. Running around with 12 companions is the only way to play
@@noone12748That's great for those of you who are D&D fans and want those kind of things.
But I can't be the only one who wants more stories, not so long or detailed perhaps, but more stories.
Take a look at Factorio. The base game has always been mod friendly. Smaller mods added extra this or that, or Qol features. But then some fanatic modders made complete game overhaul mods, creating new adventures. Some of those modders have now been taken onboard as official Devs for the new Factorio 2 and DLC.
Look at City Skylines or TPF2 these games only exist because of the modders who built onto the base game.
That is what I am hoping for. A little DLC from modders, exploring Halsins history or Astarions or... etc.
@@noone12748 Weird by the sounds of people who actually make the mods they are not all that supportive.
Secondly I wouldn't be surprised if WotC started going after the non-SRD content mods, definetly none will make into the official platfrom.
Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro have been loudly quiet since the official announcement of Larian departure. It means exactly what we think it means. They're gonna do whatever they want, they absolutely don't care about Larian, The community, or the characters. Greed is their way of life.
And people still support them.
I can't even imagine any other Game Company going to the extremes Larian have gone to, and are going to, to look after the players and customers!
I keep seeing this take and it makes me really sad that it's always presented as a good thing.
The fact Larian is so determined to provide a complete product is considered a 'unique' trait of the company is just depressing.
... It's also untrue, since there are countless smaller companies that have provided support for their games above and beyond anything Larian has done or will do for BG3. But it does suck that larger publishers and developers so rarely display this sort of commitment.
@@aduboo29 Maybe I should have been clearer and said large or larger instead of generalising by simply saying 'other'. 🤔😉
@@aduboo29 Nobody is saying Larian are the only ones doing this, just that they are the devs that made GOTY of this year with these values in mind
CDPR used to be viewed this way by a lot of gamers post Witcher 3 and before Cyberpunk released. As long as Swen is there and in charge I don't see Larian being capable of fumbling the bag like they did though.
While I respect their grind, this also means that BG3, like MANY other games we like to shit on, came out as a "much" poorer product on launch. Many of the things they added felt really needed in my run. Not like actual DLC where I can come back and replay it, but parts of the quality of life, mechanics or story that were just missing. And while I really loved my time with my campaign, there were some actual flaws and gripes (some of them now fixed) that marred my experience with the game. Sure, I really should always buy games 1 year after they are out. That's usually my policy, but with the rave reviews and the kind of game it is, I expected it to be completely and completely functionnal. It wasn't.
Still disappointed we won't get to see the Upper City, it felt so jarring it no being there.
Yeah they need to bring that content back!!
I would not be insanely shocked if they rework large parts of act 3 for the definitive edition if they end up doing that
I might be coping but I still have hope for the uppercity tbh. I don’t consider cut content as dlc
@@AeschylusShepherdthere’s no bringing it back, it was never there. The idea that it was cut content is a myth based on a misunderstanding of a poorly worded post that was clarified as soon as it was no longer a spoiler to do so.
@@ElderSnowballthe upper city isn’t cut content. It was never there to begin with. It was only meant to be the setting for the finale.
I feel like BG3 is the first example in a video game of the phrase "too much of a good thing can be bad." This game is so well done and so amazing that I'm just not ready for it to be over in the sense of I've been wanting there to be entirely other stories branching off the main quest. I was thinking about how incredible a DLC was in the past for expanding a game like Blood & Wine for the Witcher 3 and just letting my mind run with the possibilities. I respect Sven's decision and trust Larian (a rare statement for me when directed towards a game dev these days) I'm just bummed I wont be able to enjoy a new story at any point within BG3.
yup same here I’m gutted no more bg3
Same here, like I want more stuff but on the other hand I prefer leaving on a good note than leaving on a bad one.
True , i was expecting something like that with additional 8 levels , new villain etc. Seemed natural
I'm pretty sure Sven did mention, sometime last year, that he's always wanted to do a Sci-Fi game! This could be the next thing?
I hope not.. if so it's like Bethesda going from Elder Scrolls to Starfield and we all see how that turned out. I just want fantasy games, not Sci fi personally.
could still be like blizzard with warcraft and starcraft@@blackburned
@Dzugashvili sorry I don't know either of those games but played Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim
@@blackburned Well I think it s going to be something along the lines of Mass Effect with different alien races . That would give players choice with what race to pick and what abilities they would have. I think Sven is a better writer than Pagliarulo and so I think the game will be good.
@@blackburned Each to their own and i can understand your preference, but I like both. However I'm sure Larian swapping genres won't be as disastrous as Bethesda and starfailed!
Well, I think it's safe to say that BG4 is not happening. I mean, not just from Larian but at all. And maybe it's a good thing, considering Hasbro's greed and inability to do their own IPs justice. As for me, I'm eagerly awaiting some kind of modding software like Creation Kit for BG3. That would undoubtedly explode the already pretty lively modding scene. I want BG3 to live very long.
It will happen cause money and shareholders. Pretty sure Hasbro is pimping it out as we speak
Honestly I think it's time to move on from the city of Baldur's gate and to some other regions, hell maybe move on from the sword coast all together. There are so many other great locations available.
Bg4 is gonna come out regardless . It’s too much of a money grab for hasboro to neglect . It might not be in the next 5 years but it’ll definitely happen in 10 maybe 20 years
Eh, It'll be dead in a couple of years. I mean, it already partially is with barely anything to do in the game.
Surely won't live up to some legendary names in crpg industry (neither it deserves to anyway).
@@theincrediblefella7984 still better than modders needing to work with nothing
I'm glad they are at least adding stuff to the game still.
I'm honestly filled with a degree of hope for the future of gaming. Bg 3 was loudly and widely praised for everything it did, rightly so. And it sold very well, and won a lot of awards. So I'm quite excited to see how fantasy gaming tries to recreate or pay homage to bg 3. And that the general standard for gaming, writing, characters, story, combat etc, have all been permanently raised. We deserve games of quality, and let's continue to speak with our wallets and social media. This game finally got me into dnd, and now I'm hungry for more, even from other studios, even if it can't live up to the same quality as no team comes close to Larion. It would be so cool to see campaigns get turned into full fledged games.
Yeah no, I hope crpgs will continue to be their own thing rather than try to copy bg3 because of its bloated success. Or we might just see the whole genre dead.
@@As-tray Bloated success? Do you disagree with the level of attention it's received?
And I'm not asking for copy and pasted bg 3 clones. I'm hoping the takeaway other companies have is to increase the general scope and quality of their games. By being like BG 3, I mean having a wide cast of main and side characters, extensive story and map etc.
And imho, there hasn't been a good CRPG in a while. Witcher 3 I'd reckon was the last awesome one to shake the genre.
There are many genres that were killed by one great game everyone after tried to imitate - I hope they don't try to "pay homage" to BG3 by copying its success but find a way to do something unique.
Best studio ever. Can’t wait to see what’s next
Lets hope Icewind Dale 3
@@BlobBlobkinsthey are not doing dnd again.
@@BlobBlobkins
Shadowrun!
Shadowrun would be amazing from Lyrian.
And then Fallout!
And then Divinity 3 on PS6.
I would love to see all 3 of those games dropped in the same year next year or 2026. I can’t wait I’m too impatient for their games!
@@markwilleboordse4871 oh well...
@@bigzachful omg I just imagined if they would done Fallout, oh man. I know they don't have the rights to but Bethesda won't make it good anyway.
It's such a shame that the Forgotten Realms don't get more love in video games
The future may be different after the success of BG3!
@xJarlaxle Fun fact: There's barely any other IP that has gotten so much love in video games than the Forgotten Realms - there's a total of 46 single player games (plus 10 big expansions for Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind dale and Neverwinter Nighs 1&2) and 6 online games set in the Forgotten Realms, starting all the way back with Pool of Radiance back in 1988.
Because everything gets dumbed down and more accessible too much reading as In classical RPGs.
I miss Mass Effect and Dragon Age 1😂
@@HH-hd7nd that doesn't change me view
@@xJarlaxleNot saying it should. I like the Realms -I've played a good amount of the video games and I have played a lot of campaigns in the Realms at the table as well.
There are quite a few more D&D video games in addition to the Realms btw - all in all there are more than 100 D&D video games.
Wizards owning them is absolutely bad news. They can't go more than 5 minutes without fucking something up in dnd
Well love these characters while you can)
All I need is a new ending for Karlach and I’ll be good
Karlachs ending being the way it is is a deliberate writing choice. They don’t have to change their creative decisions because some people don’t like it. It’s a tragedy. She deserves the happiest of endings but doesn’t get it because life isn’t fair and you don’t always get what you deserve.
Right. Life isn’t fair only to Karlach. So convenient for all the others who romance the others
@@thisishowitallends9321 astarion in his good ending cannot go out in the sun ever again. Gale in his good ending must apologise to his abuser and do her bidding again. Laezel in her good ending is at the start of a battle against an extremely powerful foe and her humongous army, with only a relatively small rebellion at her side, after having alienated herself from everyone and everything she knew. Shadowheart in her good endings either has to kill her parents just when she got them back, or live forever with shars curse. Wylls good ending risks his father dying, and his good decisions at the beginning of the game mean he has been cursed to be a devil for the rest of his life with nothing he can do to change it. All of the good endings have some bittersweet aspect to them, because life isn’t fair. Karlachs story is more tragic than the others, yes. But it’s not like she’s the only one with sadness in her ending and everyone else’s life is full of sunshine and roses and not one single problem. The unfairness of life effects ALL of them, it’s just that Karlach is hit particularly bad because her story is a tragedy. Do you think that if one story has to be an outright tragedy all of them do?
@@roanc3709 yeah I get it, it still sucks though. I kinda hate how they set it up that there might be a way out during the game. I also think with the amount of freedom of choice in this game, there should be an option to get a more satisfying ending even if you have to work harder for it.
@@newgroundtv they didn’t set it up though. From the beginning of act 2 onwards they tell you repeatedly, and from multiple sources, that there is nothing that can be done.
Still makes me sad,,,, as I was really invested in BG 3's future. I watched all the interviews of the voice actors who were all on board for more content. Even talk of BG 4 now I am just coping.
Sad? Dude they released what .. like almost 100 gigs of content in free updates including new quests and voiced dialogues and companion content included, and they are still doing that. That's just ridiculous amount of work honestly. And obviously everything has to come to end, and it's a good thing. They need to polish BG3, then rest, then start doing new things.
Stories need to have an end. Otherwise new ones cannot begin.
That line "one rpg that will dwarf them all" gives me LOTR vibes
LOTR/Hobbit!
Shadowrun!
Fallout!
Divinity 3!
I want all of them from them!
Maybe I just read it as their next RPG is going to be a big ambitious game.
As a fan of stout mountain dwelling fantasy folk, I'm glad that it will dwarf their other projects instead of elf them.
I hope not. LotR sucks.
Yea he just said he's planning on multiple more rpgs to learn for a rpg to dwarf them all. So this so called insane rpg is years away@@CrazyxEnigma
I have negative faith in WOTC so I don't believe the characters will be shown respect
The fact that Larian had talked about doing BG4 and DLC makes me believe that this was an internal issue prob over money with Hasbro. It’s no secret that WOTC and Hasbro have been bleeding money lately so them trying to renegotiate with Larian to get more money after BG3’s success wouldn’t be surprising. Though it’s disappointing I am happy for Larian and can’t wait for their next project and who knows, maybe if Hasbro gets bought out Larian could swoop in and negotiate for the Video game rights for DOD or just BG.
It's probably a problem with Hasbro. They and WoTC are in a state of collapse and they bemoaned the fact that they were only able to get 90 million out of the game due to contract. I would bet they offered a contract for DLC and/or a sequel and wanted the lion's share of the profits. I have no positive feelings about any follow-up that comes out of them having the rights. I gave Wizards the last dollar they will ever get directly from me a few years ago after more than 30 years playing D&D.
Where are you getting that 90mil from is that confirmed. Seems rather odd for them to have released the numbers, was there an earnings call?
@@soldierbreedTell me you haven't check the news without telling me you haven't checked the news.
A simple Google search would have answered for you.
@@soldierbreedThere was an earnings call back in February. IGN has an article on it. Their share was 90 mil according to them.
What the story with WOTC and Hasbro exactly?
Greed probably
I think a sci fi crpg from them would be an interesting thing. They probably want to work on something different then fantasy considering they've done that for like the last 20 years.
Shadowrun is cool. It would still be familiar as you still have "fantasy" races and magic in that setting even though its a cyberpunk world.
Honestly I won't play cyberpunk or Sci fi and strongly prefer they stick to fantasy but to each their own
Given that they've "done that for like the last 20 years" it seems pretty ingrained in company DNA, no?
@@anonymouse8124 Swen said he wants to do a sci-fi game. could be this next game. could be the one after that
@@anonymouse8124 Sure, but I was talking from the perspective of the devs.
I kind of imagine it being the opposite of destiny. bungie wanted to make a fantasy game- but knowing that their skills sat very heavily in shooting and sci fi, they decdid on a sort of mix as a "high" sci fi as i have come to call it (idk if that term is already used, it just became the easiest way i could explain destinys setting to people who have never seen it lol). I think Larian could really excel in the sci fi space, if thats what they are actually considering. Mass effect already proved these types of rpg elements could easily transalte over into the genre... and man imagining "mass effect, but better" gets me very excited, as that was my first rpg series. honestly thinking back to destiny, mixing in high fantasy tropes like they did could create an amazing world in larians hands... more of what i actually had hoped destiny was going to be, actually.
Larian truly is a Light in the Gaming industry. But it was the WolfheartFPS channel and members who kept it warm and Exciting. The Pack will follow Larian with interest! Just Let us know all the details Wolf! Great info as usual!
Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro are both busy self-destructing, so I get Sven not wanting to do anything new. Hopefully in a few years, things will stabilize enough that he does decide to do BG4.
I do agree - but at the same time, this might be the best path toward a renaissance in the CRPG genre.
Larian will continue doing amazing things in the genre, so we're not really losing out overall.
Meanwhile, the legacy and value of BG3 creates a new opportunity to another studio which did not exist in the CRPG genre before: the chance to leap ahead in sales and brand value, and the pressure to either get it right or avoid the IP altogether.
For now, I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic about the impact of Larian Studios - and that goes not only for BG3 but also for their decision to focus elsewhere than the Forgotten Realms for now.
Get Woke, go broke. I hope they soon find out.
Self destructing? What's happening then? I know nothing of those studios so I'm curious.
@@Aedrion-Wizards of the Coast own the Dungeons and Dragons IP, and Hazbro owns WOTC.
They attempted to change an agreement they've had with the community for decades *right* before they released the DnD movie. The change had the potential to cause many companies that created 3rd party material for DnD go broke, or struggle to break even, and so caused an incredible response from the community. Their was a push to mass unsubscribe from their digital toolset, and it was so successful that they decided to put the core rules of 5th edition DnD (which is what BG3 was based off) into Creative Commons.
However, enough fans of the game jumped to other TTRPGs that the movie brought in far less money that Hasbro was banking on, and they've been clawing to get their reputation back ever since.
To add to what Crimson Witch said, WotC also went through a recent mass layoff. I suspect that when Swen made his remarks at the GDA awards criticizing companies who lay off employees at times when they're making large profits, and losing a lot of institutional knowledge in the process, this is what he was referring to. Supposedly out of the entire WotC team that Larian worked and liaised with when they were making BG3, not a single one remains employed at WotC. So yeah, the mood and working relationship between the companies now must feel very different.
There's also rumours (but these are unconfirmed) that Hasbro/WotC was heavily leaning on Larian to add in things like microtransactions to BG3, which I think we can all agree would be absolute red lines. So given all of the above, I think Swen wisely decided to cast off rather than stay and potentially be forced to engage in unsavory practices that they always stood against.
Hooray. We can expect Hasbro's "mark of excellence" on our favorite NPC's.
Things I'M particularly looking forward to:
Karlach's new Act III conversion to Christianity.
Astarion develops a sudden obsession with NASCAR, even unlocking a very powerful piece of in-game armor that happens to look like a racing jumpsuit with DOZENS of brand Logos emblazoned on it (it is, of course, unremovable).
The Dark Urge playthroughs now include s lot of "spooky" LEGO-themed content.
Wyll "comes out" to his dad as a white man.
Just watch WotC hand Baldur's Gate 4 to modern day Bioware. Hahahaha! That would be hilarious and sad in equal measure. Larian really exceeded my expectations with BG 3. If A sequel is made some day, I hope they are involved.
Doubtfully, like Bioware making Dreadwolf, and the next ME, they don't need it, at least until 2028 or something, they literally don't have resources to start working on the game (switched team mostly on Dreadwolf to help with final stages of production, while simultaneously firing 50 something people last year)
If Dreadwolf is not a massive hit, they'll probably shut Bioware down..
I love when studios support mods. Between this and Stardew Valley (and probably others that don't immediately come to mind!), it's really encouraging to see these companies supporting independent creators, many of whom may become game devs themselves one day. It also creates a stronger sense of community and increases its playability in the long run. Major kudos to Larian for supporting their players' creativity!
Well said. I love SV and BG3 both so much. ConcernedApe is too generous with his free updates too - another new one was just released
For all the flak Bethesda gets they were one of the first bigger developers to embrace mods wholeheartedly. Mods are great and hopefully going forward this embrace of them will be done by more developers.
@@CrazyxEnigmaYeah. For all of Bethesda's shortcomings, they are one of the first to realize the potential of mods in extending the lives of their games. Now if only other companies like Capcom would realize this.
I really wish they would do something like Bethesda does with the mods, I would LOVE to be able to mod bg3 on play station.
@@LucyCaranica It sounds like that's the plan! Which is really encouraging. But I also know it can be a challenge for devs. Fingers crossed they figure it out.
I am so glad they are not, don't get me wrong, but I think I'd almost be proud of buying a DLC expansion for BG3. The studio deserves all the praise they get and I hope their next project is just as successful for them. Once upon a time DLCs were...worth something, but nowadays they are shallow cash grabs, hell, some AAA games are shallow cash grabs. Let's hope BG3 changes the industry but I am not that naive.
I love the forgotten realms and it sad that Larian won't be making them.
Always felt the evil endings having no epilogue felt very lack luster..
I'm happy they are adding more endings, I'm 800 hours into the game and still havent beat Honor mode lol.
I'm around the same number of hours and in Act II of an Honor Mode Durge playthrough.. camp casters have been hugely helpful. I have a life cleric, transmutation wizard, and college of lore bard for my camp casters. Best of luck when you try honor mode :) it is hard but doable
I don't understand Absolute ending needing the epilogue, it doesn't make any sense
They shouldn't be wasting their time making evil endings.
@@avashneathey should
I wish they’d give us the option to (ending spoiler)
choose to not forcibly control our companions after dominating the crown. It’s not at all what my intention was. I’d rather one of em kill my character
Wizards engages in exactly the type of practices that Swen has a problem with, so I continue to maintain this is partially motivated by that. Why make money for a company that doesn't align with your ethics? My guess is they will never work together again.
Hope so too
There is a Larian documentary, its been out for years; everything said then (in the documentary : on youtube), still rings true now. Swen is a man who has been harshly tested, and came out on top. Now he just shares what hes been given.
I cannot wait to play Skyrim baldur's gate
Wizards of the Coast are going to drive D&D into the ground in similar manner as Disney did with Star Wars
they are on the lunatic crusade, trying to make the perfect virtue signal package that no real gamers want to touch, except the crazies
5e already broke d&d lore anyways. I fully support Larian getting away from them before getting infected by the mind rot
I wouldn't fear for the companions, except one might be put in a wheelchair or get a few extra victim traits added
The main thing I would really like to see added to BG 3 is full custom parties in singleplayer, as for the future plans of Larian they have not disappointed me with DOS 2 and BG 3 so I believe in whatever they have planned.
Easily done with mods. There are already a couple of full custom party mods
You change hirelings names and appearance and re-class them
What are they called? @@p.pol.1556
@@p.pol.1556 What are the mods names I would like to try them.
The fact that WoTC owns these characters is anything BUT good news.....in fact it's worse news than no good DLC or no BG4. WoTC and Hasbro are garbage companies run by garbage people. But I am excited for whatever Larian comes out with it in the future.
“If you want a happy ending, it depends on where you stop the story”.
I would say Larian has ended the story well, and we should be excited to see what they come with next.
Wouldn't be nice if Larian takes over Dragon Age series? I bet they would revive this wonderful lore.
Larian: we want to work on our own IPs.
Fans: would be nice if Larian worked on Electronic Arts IPs...🤡
Reality: Dragon Age Dreadwolf reported to release in 2024.
@@nunya_bizniz we will see what DADW is going to be. I hope not a giant failure.
Though I would like a good sci-fi type RPG, I think Larian might do another game with fantasy elements... though something like Shadowrun would potentially fill both elements.
Ohh Yes Shadowrun would be awesome or KOTOR!
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You know sci-fi can have fantasy? Im pretty sure the force isnt technology.
Honestly, at this point, let's start a petition for Wizards of the Coast to offer more fair terms for Larian, it absolutely has to have a sequel. 😭😭
I would love to see Larian studios do a Ravenloft game
I wonder if the dwarf comment maybe a lord of the rings hint. Maybe a dwarven rpg!
I am just wating for DoS 3.
BG3 is one of the greatest game ever made, but Larion is working with a lot of creative constrains because they have to make happy the OG BG community & has to follow the D&D rules.
With DOS Larion can go full on crazy with creativity & that's what I am looking forward to.
Someone please give Larian Dragon Age. They are about the only ones who could save it
Let go of this universe, it is dead, just like its creators. Larians need their own universe, so that later all sorts of pigs with copyrights don’t come to them with claims
Larian: we want to work on our own IPs now.
Fans: I hope they do an Electronic Arts game next...🤡
Reality: Dragon Age Dreadwolf reported to release in 2024.
@@nunya_bizniz LOL. I don't think that they are listening. Still, props for continuing to try.
@@VelichaoI love Dragon Age, but I agree. They should built their own universes and games.
Thanks for the update, Wolf! Sven loves being mysterious. LOL!!!
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I just did the House of Hope for the first time, and Raphael's room of portals made me wish that the room was their springboard for new DLCs. It makes me sad to know that we'll never see it.
No! Larian is doing it right. You pay $60+ for a game then it includes all content and players should not have to buy more.
I constantly say, I think Sven wants to try to do another action RPG like Larian attempted with Divinity 2: Ego Draconis but without the publisher restraints that have made Sven unhappy with the final product in Divinity 2's case.
WOTC and Hasbro will ruin future BG3 and will absolutely bastardize the characters. They are much like Disney in that they don't understand how their own IP works and doesn't understand what the people who buys things in those IPs want. Since Larian doesn't own DnD it's something I expected would happen, and much like Star Wars or Lord of the RIngs I'll be discounting anything that WOTC or Hasbro puts out regarding the companions, the events of BG3, or anything that is built on what Larian created. While I would certainly like to be proven wrong, the company's track record speaks for itself and I don't believe I will be wrong in this regard. After all, one doesn't sic mercenaries on a youtuber over trading cards if you're a decent company. As for Larian, I'll be following everything they do from here on out. They've earned my continued support and I'll be waiting with bated breath for their next masterpiece.
Thinking about bg3 being forgotten realms canon is wild to me... like, how does that work with all the endings? Should i make my next D&D character a cleric of gale, god of ambition and pray to gale every night?
Its gonna be similar to how bg 1 and 2 got integrated into canon they're gonna come up with a set of events and make them canon so probably the male white dragonborn durge will be the canon protagonist and the destroy the brain and reject bhaal ending will be canon ending.
The whole story of BG3 is a hot mess. Dunno how you work that into the actual lore.
when Sven "The Gigachad of Game Devs" Vincke says no DLC, what he really means he no cash-grab paid DLC, not no more content at all.
To be fair though, adding real evil endings might get them more sales, because that's always been lacking in rpgs and there's always been demand for more.
Also, for those who miss the companions... don't forget tabletop rpgs are a thing.
What I really want is for Larian to take over Pathfinder from Owlcat. Owlcat are good, but they are not Great.
Probably the same type of top down tactical rpg but a different genre than high fantasy. Probably sci-fi or steam punk. It’s gonna be good regardless!
I was playing D&D when it was Gary Gygax's game. WotC ruined D&D for me and I won't play the table top game anymore. While I know BG3 is based on the 5th edition, it feels more like the original Advanced D&D that I used to play, and that's why I love it. I do miss all the old crazy dice we used to have to use. D20 is boring.
Would love to see Larian try their hands at the sci-fi genre
Yeah. We haven't seen anything decent from Bioware in a decade. Now when we have THE new standard for a fantasy RPG for the next X years, we'd love to see an epic sci-fi soap opera rpg=) or maybe something post apocalyptic in a true original Fallout style who knows) Or some steampunk or something dark and vampiresome) I'm all hands for Larian whatever they choose to do)
Nah, but they could get into LOTR or their new dark fantasy IP
My thing is, there isn’t a company that can produce BG4 following how great BG3 was. I specifically feel okay making this statement because of how consumer friendly and community involved Larian was. I almost don’t want BG4 to be made unless it’s by Larian due to how money hungry other developers and companies have proved to be
I’m hoping for a Larian SciFi.
I hope they can share the pathfinder IP with owlcat
Dos3>
Wizard of the coast 🤮
Greedy corporate that only cares of big money for no effort!
I for one dont pay and buy games with p2w, loot boxes, battle passes, microtransactions or cash shops or expensive DLC or similar greedy actions.
I sincerely hope Larian studios go on wuth some similar game as BG3. Why not Star wars 😊
Ego Draconis 2 would be dope.
Give please...
My guess as to what the next video game will be.
I believe they will keep the turn based strategy and either make it space themed or post-apocalyptic themed. They are the alternative playing styles for DnD. Now I don't think it will be heavily DnD influenced, but I do think they'll keep doing what works and what they're best at. Which I'm all for.
I was mostly good but with an Evil Ending. I hope they take that into account so we can have 'Neutral' endings/after-party too.
I mean in terms of the two main branches of the ending, I'm not sure what neutral would be. Either you destroy the Absolute or you become the Absolute. You can be evil as fuck and still get the 'good' ending. It's less the good ending and more the 'fuck Mind Flayers' ending.
It sounds like they are working within the bounds of their contract relating to the IP. They cannot create new content, just work within the original bounds. It sounds to me like it is a matter of money and a new contract. Larian is in a strong bargaining position, and there could be another Baldur's Gate game from them if the price is right. They are just not pursuing it publicly. They are setting their sights on another project until WotC pays them what they deserve to make another game. WotC could save money by going with a different developer and make a bad follow up. I do not have high hopes for WotC to make the financially sound decision to let Larian take the helm again. It was fun while it lasted though. Swen talked about the sound engineers recording ice at night, so clearly the next game is an NHL licensed hockey game.
Larian Studios is the successor to CD Project Red as the champion of true gamers everywhere
Thqnordic are doing pretty well too they had a couple of stinkers but theyve had many more banger remakes of old games
This is crazy dedication. Once I finish Persona 3 Reload, I think I'm going to go back to Baldur's Gate and raise my 430 hours even higher.
My dreams about a Icewind Dale 3 made by Larian is crushed.
On the bright side, hopes of a more ambitious Icewind Dale game are now far higher than before BG3.
With both the franchise and the CRPG genre blowing up, as well as advancements in NPC AI, we can likely look forward to a renaissance in the RPG space.
@@tantalus_complex That's true. But what other company can make a IWD-game that holds up to Larian studios? Because no matter what company that is, people will compare it with Larian and what they did with BG3. Or rather, what other company dare to take that torch and run with it?
@@TheUnum Owlcat
@@TheUnum but i guess it’s not gonna happen 😅
Imagine Knights of the Old Republic 3 from Larian
Don't give me hope like that ;_;
that made me sad Larian are my heroes for this game!
I would imagine they try to continue Divinity - Ego Draconis ? - Its quite old - but the latest one in terms of the Divinity lore - it would be an RPG - but not turn based. .. big thing in Ego Draconis was being able to turn into a Dragon and flying at extreme speed around the world instead of fast travel - while killing everything that was outside with your fire breath - would love if they continue there!
Praying for KOTOR3
You want them to just shhht on biowares legacy everywhere 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeassss!!
Larian: We want to work on our own original ips now.
Fans: I want Larian to work with Disney... 🤡
@@soldierbreedyes. Yes I do.
@@nunya_bizniz I get that for sure. But can you imagine a better KOTOR3 solution?
I know it would never happen but seeing how well they did bg3 I would love if they could just buy out the dragon age franchise and make one on the level of origins
The possibilities are endlessssss 🤯
Wotc and hasbro is driving it into the ground. Anything not done by larian is very questionable. Anything could happen but I would not hold your breath for wotc to do anything good.
I thought all your runs were evil.
I've been known the stray from the path
I don't know if this is possible but if there are any mini campaigns mods.....that would be dope
one of the few studios thats not infected by the bourgeois mind virus
it's a shame, they expansion would have been amazing but they probably got tired of working with WOTC limitations and having to deal with their BS
I dont think Wizards is just going to throw it away.
Wizards: *setting everything on fire and firing everyone*
Hopefully with mod support, modders will be able to do what they did with Skyrim and add in new locations and stories as DLC, maybe set in Avernus, or the Astral Plane, etc... we'll have to see how expansive the modding tools are, because Sven did say they aren't a tools company. Larian's next RPG will not be the big one. He said they don't have the tech to create it, nor do they know the specs for the next generation of console, so this coming RPG will be a building block towards it.
My hope is that Larian will work with CR. I know CR would love a video game using their IP, and Mercer worked on BG3 as consultant and voiced Minsc. It would be so cool. But Swen also said he has been working on the first act of the next game, so probably not..
Yeah Dagger Heart would be good for CR as well to promote their table top
I just wanna use all the infernal metal you can loot off the steelwatchers to fix Karlach's heart, that's all I want. Let me save my wife so she can stay in Faerun.
I hope it’s a Lord of the rings game. Imagine if they team up with Weta studios or Peter Jackson.
I would lose my fucking mind if that happened
Dosent Wizards admit its not about the money its about the message? They want to destroy fan favorites and lose money not make money.
I would love to see a Fallout Game from Larian; just saying
Larian: we want to work on our own IPs now.
Fans: I hope they make a fallout game...🤡
@@nunya_bizniz you’re just a bundle of fun aren’t you?
I wish they made existing endings work without bugs first before introducing more of them.
Don’t kid yourself, they’ve essentially abandoned BG3.
No the fuck they have not lol you’re so ignorant if you think so
Bestie they’ve FINISHED bg3. Aside from a few tweaks they’re going to make and then continued bug support. How the fuck is that abandoned?
@@roanc3709 It's called DLC, all the missing areas from the city, and the Avernus hub. Run along now fanboy.
@fiftydabs5114 Yes they have 🤡, they've straight up said they have. Fanboys are pathetic.
@@Lonewanderer30 there are no areas missing from the city. you surely didnt expect them to put the entirety of baldurs gate into a video game, right? that place is bigger than many real cities. and the avernus hub wasnt meant to be a hint to future dlc, it was literally just an area designed to show how raphael gets around. the game is finished. any dlc would have been an addition to a complete game (as dlc should be btw). them not making dlc doesnt make the game abandoned, its a finished game they arent adding more to. abandonment would be releasing a half finished game and doing nothing with it, not releasing a finished game, tweaking things based on feedback, and then continuing to give bug support until its no longer needed
I would pay $40 just to have Karlach not have to go back to Avernus.
the only way that Larian can ascend any higher at this point would be to do an anti DLC were they create optional content that you have to load download but that you receive a dollar for if you actually beat it and that money would be paid out of the baldur's gate 3 coffers that came from the bajillions of sales can you can you fucking imagine if Larian did that holy shit
I bet my left kidney he is working on a new RPG with GPT powered NPCs
larian needs to get the rights for vampire the masquerade cause bloodlines 2 is not it 😭😭
Okay if not bg4 or dos3, then my bet is they'll do the next xcom game.
I'm betting on Sven's wordplay. The next game will be set in the space and timeline of the Hobbit.
WOTC is less than useless, the less they touch the characters the better.
I don't want Hasbro near Astarion and doing only cliche vampire stuff
There are portals in House of Hope that leads to places we all know. For example Neverwinter. I wish it could be a hint about "what's next". Will we have Neverwinter Nights 3? Icewind dale 3? I hope its going to happen
He also said that it's not gonna be a DnD game.
Karlach was babe for me. 😉👍
I actually found it interesting that my fondness or liking for her as a romance character gave me a sense of nostalgic vibes or familiarity to that of Liara Tsoni / tali mix .
Regardless, all the characters , playable and non-playable, were so well done with such care for authenticity. It just reiterates again, the difference of approach to developers who make characters and developers, who make NPCs . For me, that difference is very striking .
But yeah, love Karlach
As long as only Larian touches the updates, I'm happy.
In all that what I really heard is there would be some free choice endings but NOT new big content updates. So that is a different interpretation but to me it was a bummer not a good thing.
There will be DLC. It just will not be Larian to do it. WOTC just wants to heavily monetize DLC. Wait and see.