BOW/WAND vs WAND/STAFF Which is BEST? | Throne and Liberty

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  • @niinxzero2025
    @niinxzero2025 21 день тому +16

    Just run all 3. Ive got Bow/Wand/Staff. Got a nice setup for Heals and DPS, whether I wanna go a Hybrid healer/dps or straight heals or straight dps, I can. It's all jist a preset away and all I need to do is swap my staff for Bow or Wand for Bow to go either or.

    • @Stefanos07520
      @Stefanos07520 21 день тому +1

      Oh hey, and I've got 3 bars! I will be switching to this!

    • @niinxzero2025
      @niinxzero2025 20 днів тому

      @@Stefanos07520 thats awesome to hear. Itll take a little extra grinding but im sure youll enjoy it

    • @DCRaiderRich
      @DCRaiderRich 17 днів тому

      How do you train in all three?

    • @niinxzero2025
      @niinxzero2025 17 днів тому

      @@DCRaiderRich training dew and mastery reports. I started with wand/staff so those are further ahead at mastery 12 but my bow is close behind at mastery 10.

    • @DCRaiderRich
      @DCRaiderRich 17 днів тому

      @@niinxzero2025 is it hard to get the books and level the extra weapon?
      Also, I appreciate your time, thank you!

  • @decepi
    @decepi 21 день тому +7

    I have a bow, wand, and staff. And mastery and skills all on par. I have a bow/wand for heavy healing, staff bow for DPS, and staff/wand for light healing while grinding open world dungeons in parties. I love all 3 so much.

  • @cdgDev
    @cdgDev 21 день тому +2

    At the begin of the game I was playing staff/wand (awsome combo for me), then guildie said "staff/bow is the real dps" so i switched (nice combo too, main atm).
    then I made an alter bow/wand and idk now if swicth to staff/wand before too late.
    Nice content keep it up!

  • @Jonaslobo20
    @Jonaslobo20 21 день тому +5

    I play staff wand as a selfish solo player. I can be a sub healer in dungeons and other content with a huge survivability even being able to completely tank any dungeon thrown at me at the moment. In case our healer or tank dies I'll be there holding hands. I do not like to play anything that is strictly heal or strictly damage in T&L just because depending on the team you get, they just assume you are there to serve them on a specific way xD
    Lastt week my whole team died in Tyrants dungeon so I soloed the boss from around 50%hp to zero, because I refused to reset when I knew they didnt know the mechanics.
    I just wished I could do even more damage with my passives, a bit more like powerfull conditions like Gw2 👍 regardless I see myself as a necromancer when playing wand and staff 😂😅

  • @glencarla684
    @glencarla684 11 днів тому

    I still choose staff/wand since my play style is Utility support. Staff/wand can sleep bind freeze pull/tp on pt member. Staff have skill where you can buffs for +Ms and Cd. I also love the 2 hop with ice/fire on the floor

  • @TheBarkster
    @TheBarkster 6 днів тому

    I prefer full healing. The more I can make the group comfortable, the more the DPS will do. DPS cant do damage when dead or blocking, so I like to make those optional :p

  • @PH1LDO1
    @PH1LDO1 21 день тому +2

    Great video

  • @Nooklet
    @Nooklet 21 день тому +1

    SnS Wand here! I'm just existing bro haha

  • @runesage
    @runesage 21 день тому +2

    Playing bow/wand as f2p player.(2400+ something )Loving it. Mainly played it as utility class with basically no damage and full heal + shoelds. Works good with random players.
    Does good dps for solo farm . Loved it
    I was thinking trying dagger/wand now. Any thoughts on it? Feels interesting and fun

    • @Risinqq
      @Risinqq 21 день тому +1

      Imo for f2p staff wand is better( only for mass PvP, because you can run talus staff and basically full shock commander and not die even as f2p)

    • @thronewithj
      @thronewithj  21 день тому +1

      Hey! Thanks for the comment. So I understand wand/dagger is a pretty niche pick, but is super powerful in GvG because of the sleep bomb and ability to isolate healers. I don't think it is used much as a healer, but maybe this would be a good future video. Thanks!!

  • @caranmirryuu9866
    @caranmirryuu9866 20 днів тому

    I want to run al 3 too, but atm its Wand/staff and I up Bow with everything I got left, need more Build and Equip layouts, just like in GW2.

  • @DCRaiderRich
    @DCRaiderRich 17 днів тому

    Is it possible with the three different skill selections/bars we are given to train in all three weapons, bow, wand, and staff?
    I'm not sure how to get some of the green books to train in the staff as I'm bow/wand atm.
    Thoughts? Suggestions?

  • @mystic865
    @mystic865 16 днів тому +1

    Wand staff is support dps.

  • @DaddyCrusader
    @DaddyCrusader 21 день тому

    Cameo appearance is crazy 6:43

    • @thronewithj
      @thronewithj  21 день тому

      That's your highlight reel haha!

  • @The-Dark-Tower
    @The-Dark-Tower 12 днів тому

    2:57 Gear showcase, you are not healer but tank with some heals because you have only 8k mana ( normally with wand and bow you would get 12k mana easily by having 10k hp if you go for true healing build, while for staff + wand your mana will rise up like 16k, more max mana means that more healing). Where is the Ascended Gear set for higher heal rate and other accessories etc for lesser cooldown?
    what is your healing power, cooldown reduction, buff duration, mana regen etc? The amount of true healers in this game max %1 already in population based. When T2, T3 or two star / three star dungeons comes how to heal? a full hp tank I have seen reached to around 24k HP already

  • @nimchau8146
    @nimchau8146 13 днів тому

    Healer can replace support, but support can't replace healer. It's different role.

  • @guidofabiant1003
    @guidofabiant1003 21 день тому +1

    planning to make an alt for pve only,what do you think would be a good weapon comb between this two that can get away with low investment (2300cp ish)?

    • @gampie13
      @gampie13 21 день тому

      bow/wand can keep up close to any one with little gear if played correctly (ofc idiots cant be helped no matter the build you have)

    • @thronewithj
      @thronewithj  21 день тому +2

      Thanks for the question. So either can do well in PvE, but I honestly prefer the AoE potential from wand/staff to nuke mobs at a sustained rate. Yes, the bow wand cursebomb is awesome, but I honestly think the staff is quicker! Hope that helps b

  • @rebel6176
    @rebel6176 20 днів тому

    How do I kill stuff in the game with these builds? like can I solo open world content and do what I need to do, or will it be 100x slower and more painful then a dps

  • @ocpd33frea
    @ocpd33frea 19 днів тому

    If you played Final Fantasy XIV support class like SCHOLAR and ASTROLOGIAN it just like eating peanuts even you are BOW/WAND or STAFF/WAND. The skill ceiling on supports are quite low in this game.

  • @miamattz4020
    @miamattz4020 21 день тому

    Jogo de varinha e arco de Healer pve, é bom demais.

  • @Brownie05191
    @Brownie05191 21 день тому +1

    Love all you guys, but please stop trying relevance if your not bow/wand or staff. We're just talking about normal healing classes. Example: Sns/wand is a tank 1st and healer 2nd. What you can do and supposed to do are two different things. Thank you!

  • @yamel-4720
    @yamel-4720 21 день тому

    I wonder it is a place you can put your built

  • @MrHadane
    @MrHadane 21 день тому +1

    What about staff bow?

    • @gampie13
      @gampie13 21 день тому +1

      staff bow is a glass cannon dps nuker

    • @Brownie05191
      @Brownie05191 21 день тому

      We're dps sir. I'm 3156 bow/staff user. This isn't our conversation. "Liberator" for life! (2543 wand/bow alt character)

  • @Jigoku1983
    @Jigoku1983 21 день тому +1

    Is longbow/wand still viable after the big nerf?

    • @andredevil8111
      @andredevil8111 21 день тому +1

      Nice question

    • @thronewithj
      @thronewithj  21 день тому +1

      I'll be able to answer this better when the update hits global!

    • @Jigoku1983
      @Jigoku1983 20 днів тому

      thanks for the feedback

    • @osamodasplays7233
      @osamodasplays7233 20 днів тому

      I won't even call the shared CD heal a nerf.

    • @ErraticFaith
      @ErraticFaith 19 днів тому

      It will function but at a much lower standard. If you don't want to be deadweight, switch to support/dps. The devs never intended to have a trinity or 'pure' healer in the game - as it's supposed to function more like their other titles. Think 'no trinity' design in early gw2, or games that skip them entirely. It's not worth a slot.

  • @hellfrass666
    @hellfrass666 12 днів тому

    bow wand will be nerf and share cd between heal abilities.

  • @kevindiego53
    @kevindiego53 21 день тому

    Is sns/wand not a support class too ?

    • @Brownie05191
      @Brownie05191 21 день тому

      Those heals are mainly for your survival. You can help heal others, but your priority is tanking hence Sns. It would be a waste as a sns to prioritize wand (healing) when that is your 2nd priority.

  • @highfive6340
    @highfive6340 19 днів тому

    we can't play pvp because of stun...

  • @cypher9000
    @cypher9000 10 днів тому

    Good content so not hating on you as a person but, man, it's really hard to listen to how you've sliced your sound together in the editor. One minute in and it feels like every sentence that you have in the video has been cut, sliced and put together to make it sound as if you're saying it in one go. Why not have a script and read fluently from it? Surely you can read whole sentences without pauses and umms and ehms? Would make watching your content way more pleasant.

  • @germanchokolat1
    @germanchokolat1 21 день тому

    Nerf!?!?!??? What???

  • @murphylongshot
    @murphylongshot 21 день тому +1

    2749 bow/wand is life

    • @inkanthem
      @inkanthem 21 день тому +2

      KR just locked both wand and bow heals to the same CD 😢

    • @UmbraWeiss
      @UmbraWeiss 21 день тому

      ​@@inkanthemthat will be probably adjusted due time, because doing this makes 2 weapons totally useless to use at the same time.

    • @murphylongshot
      @murphylongshot 21 день тому

      @@inkanthem they lock one of the healing skills not all you still get flash wave and blitz as well as the best cleanse in the game🤷‍♂

  • @MT-bd6uv
    @MT-bd6uv 21 день тому +4

    Longbow got nerf in KR, it lost its survivability and with the cc nerf it is not as effective. Ignore everything this guy says, go do your own research. On KR servers sns/wand is KING the true raid boss you CANNOT kill a good sns/wand player with less that 3 players and even then it will not be an easy fight.

  • @shooknhungry
    @shooknhungry 14 днів тому

    i heard wand/bow will get nerfed as a healer in a future update, will it still be better heals than wand/staff?

    • @drejohnson850
      @drejohnson850 12 днів тому

      I think it’ll still be better. Lots of regens

  • @mookzsai6774
    @mookzsai6774 21 день тому

    3579 bow/wand kastleton Mooks love my bow wand even with impending nerf

    • @mookzsai6774
      @mookzsai6774 21 день тому

      Ill note that bow wand has a 1 shot mechanic if you decide to go that route though

    • @bgt450
      @bgt450 21 день тому +1

      @@mookzsai6774whats the 1 shot

    • @charlesnavarro4003
      @charlesnavarro4003 21 день тому

      @@bgt450 i bet thats using the sleep mechanic and sniping. idk tho im new to bow wand

  • @えーくっと
    @えーくっと 17 днів тому +1

    Thy should remove healers really. PvP and PvE all about DPS... Players use wand or bow to heal themself a little to survive, not to heal others to keep alive; because in pvp or pve you will lose if the damage is a lot or by multiple targets and the game is multi-attack on single target... When a healer heal others then he cannot himself, all heal skill cooldowns are very long even with cooldown reduction build (look at the video skill cooldowns on the wand and bow for buffs and heal related skills, and T&L is very fast phase game for pvp and pve, even it is tab-target game)... and there is no way to survive in both pvp and pve. How is it in PVE? players even don't dodge or kite boss attacks or monster attacks and waiting healer to heal them all, the whole team... Healer heal team members in boss fight but then thy cannot heal themself lol...
    CC lock on healers, thy cannot do anything and get defeated so easily. 3vs3 or mass pvp - thy do non-stop CC and healers are done and no way to survive in mass pvp or heal anyone because crossbow squads will wipe everything within milliseconds unless you are a tank... Healers sacrifice many stats to get lower cooldown reduction, max mana for more healing, mana regen to keep your skills to be useable in long run of pvp, mana efficiency needed for better mana management and attack speed for small dot heals to do faster lol...
    Next patch, thy nerf healer related active and passive skills while thy buff every of other weapons in the game!!!
    I really miss the Lineage 2, Aion, Archeage, Tera Online healing system, even Blade and Soul or BDO healing is far better than Throne and Liberty really!!!

  • @jaybeam1466
    @jaybeam1466 21 день тому +1

    Bruh.. The console hud looks atrocious.

    • @thronewithj
      @thronewithj  21 день тому

      Yep.. cannot wait for an update so I can move everything around!

  • @hellfirelightsou2110
    @hellfirelightsou2110 8 днів тому

    Is wrong i wanna be dps instead over healer tho