Appreciate the breakdown on how we ramp now, I was spamming trees tonight and felt underwhelming. Gonna practice and excited to see a big improvement next raid night!
5:04 And there i see a small problem. Basicly i have to see or sense if a mob ability is not kicked in time. Doesn't regrowth from convoke consumes natures swiftment?
I have always hated the idea of playing around reforestation. yeah I get that you can prime your swiftmends but it's just so frustrating to have to artificially do that and 'waste' swiftmends when they aren't needed. I am stubborn and I want consistent healing, where burst healing comes from predictable button clicks like tree of life. I also hate the idea of RNG triggering heals.
@@Dreadly in wow cataclysm they made tree form last only 30 seconds AND they made it super ugly looking so if wow classic ever does a reset back TBC or WOTLK roll a Druid and enjoy permanent tree form while you can
Burst heal is great for sure, but can you comment on needing multiple group bursts in a single encounter when invoke is on CD... I'm tending towards needing 1 convoke, but NO tree form to save it, Tree form for another, and then 2-3 Treants for another. At a ~609 gear level, consistent hps is in the 350k-500k range, but doesn't seem enough past M6.
Well to start if you are using treeants in wildstalker you wont get the same stacking buff you do from keeper of the grove, so use the tree charges at will Always make sure you are ramping into the damage, there should be 1 rejuv on everyone, swiftmend into wild growth, THEN either 1: convoke 2: use tree proc 3: spam regrowth
Do you have specific macros that help out for using certain spells together? Been out the game for 3 yrs since shadowlands and I’m barely getting used to everything again
Is Master Shapeshifter the better choice for M+ vs Liveliness as Wildstalker? Also, I think sacrificing the 60 sec cd reduction of Improved Stampeding Roar for the Fluid Form quality of life is so worth it.
Thanks so much for the video!! It was very informative. I do have a question though- are there any changes when it comes to catweaving rotation with wildstalker? I use a beginners yt guide from dragonflight as wowhead was not too much in depth, but afraid it might be outdated. ❤
when u procced ur tree then used natures swiftness into convoke it didnt use ur NS bc its still on ur buff bar /greyed out, does that mean its been patched?
I understand the argument for moonkin form wasting a global, but now that we have fluid form that wouldnt happen. To me losing moonkin form is a huge a loss because of the loss in action bar you get when you shapeshift. Now I have to find space on an already cramped bar for my dps buttons. Feels terrible! And then fluid form is a weak choice because we dont even benifit from it if we dont cat weave. Would be fine with the loss of boomkin form if fluid form wasnt added at the same time. Just me?
Hey, what are the stats I should look in my items, I mean what is my priority? Haste>mastery>versatility>critical? I feel like with a low versatility my healing numbers are a bit low if I’m comparing myself to other healing classes in raid.
that looks about right, our numbers arent incredibly impressive right now, but stacking vers wont solve it outright -> most our healing comes from mastery stacks so just make sure you have hots up on many targets! Haste is king, but since its early and we are gearing, focus item level and int
as a healer the entire way of dpsing it should change, it should be something like more on AOE in easy way so you can be able to catchup with your primary roll.
@@treebirdtv sure! High keys like +10-12 or higher hurt extremely bad, or at least did in beta. Given we use regrowth so heavily, both manually casting and the procs in convoke, having the extra crit is critical. (Some of the procs I got with the convoke combo were hitting for 3 mil +.) I think as people master dungeons that talent can change! Also cenarion ward is pretty bad right now so abundance is just better
@@Silentfeety high keys do a LOT of damage, it seems like a waste but it plays into the convoke build heavily and helps get through the dungeon smooth!
@@Silentfeety you definitely should, a good plan would be using tree on a ramp at the start of the raid encounter so that you’ll have it up again later for damage
@@Nifuji_TTV I see. I was wondering because I noticed that the Wowhead version of the guide doesn't use 2 charges of Swiftmend anymore, like you do in the first build.
verdant infusion on cenarion ward is pretty good st throughput, could outweigh 2 Swiftmends until u get full tier. havent played them both to figure out which is better, might boil down to preference
Lol they give healers multiple buttons to press then make you press all the dps buttons too lol while your mashing loads of buttons that one silly dps stays in the patch of aoe refuses to move coz they are casting thier rotation n they die 🤣 while your like yeses im beating the tank in dps 😂😂
Sorry, it´s absolutely disgusting how Blizzard perverted the healer in general. Tanks pulling half the dungeon and then I shall get in some other forms and do damage with cat whatever skills (as a CASTER who hates close range combat more than anything!) while switching back and heal and whatever??? WTF? A HEALER is no DD! I despise that kind of playstyle so much, I really think about leaving that game after 20 years. No idea what creature at Blizz came up with the idea of destroying the healer class - and the Resto Dudu - that much, but I seriously hope karma will get them. Sorry for the rant, but it is more than frustrating to see a nice system destroyed in such a silly way that worked for so many years. My favourite game is no fun anymore.
This just sounds like the problem is who you play with and what content you are playing. Nobody is forcing you to catweave ane noone is forcing your tank to pull that big but in DF there was literally no damage to be healed and the damage profile of keys was high burst which you had to survive with defs / immunities. If you are playing M+ with the Intention to push higher Keys you cannot really complain about the need for healer dps as the timer remains the same with increased mob HP. It basically is the only thing you can change.
Catweaveing has been out for years. I cat weaved for like 4/5 expansions. When nothing to heal pop some bleeds on etc faster kill time means less over all dmg taken
You sound like a more educated Theo von and I like it
Every guide i've watched said "just use treants to help with spot healing" no one ever explained to use them for the ramp. Ty for the advice.
Appreciate the breakdown on how we ramp now, I was spamming trees tonight and felt underwhelming. Gonna practice and excited to see a big improvement next raid night!
Thanks a ton for explaining this and showing different builds. I’ve read over WoWHead and you helped connect it all. Very appreciated!!
Just in time. Was lookin for a guide yesterday and found your channel❤
5:04
And there i see a small problem.
Basicly i have to see or sense if a mob ability is not kicked in time.
Doesn't regrowth from convoke consumes natures swiftment?
I have always hated the idea of playing around reforestation. yeah I get that you can prime your swiftmends but it's just so frustrating to have to artificially do that and 'waste' swiftmends when they aren't needed. I am stubborn and I want consistent healing, where burst healing comes from predictable button clicks like tree of life. I also hate the idea of RNG triggering heals.
I’ll never forgive blizzard for what they did to tree form in cata…it’s disgusting…that being said awesome guide dude
New Druid here... what did they do to tree form? :(
When I found out I could be a tree with resto I was so excited but it's only for 30 seconds. Boooo
@@Dreadly You can buy a treant form in Moonglade. Lets you be a tree form all the time.
@@Dreadly in wow cataclysm they made tree form last only 30 seconds AND they made it super ugly looking so if wow classic ever does a reset back TBC or WOTLK roll a Druid and enjoy permanent tree form while you can
awesome video bro!
I never liked grove guardians anyways so I'll definitely be running Wildstalker
Burst heal is great for sure, but can you comment on needing multiple group bursts in a single encounter when invoke is on CD... I'm tending towards needing 1 convoke, but NO tree form to save it, Tree form for another, and then 2-3 Treants for another. At a ~609 gear level, consistent hps is in the 350k-500k range, but doesn't seem enough past M6.
Well to start if you are using treeants in wildstalker you wont get the same stacking buff you do from keeper of the grove, so use the tree charges at will
Always make sure you are ramping into the damage, there should be 1 rejuv on everyone, swiftmend into wild growth, THEN either 1: convoke 2: use tree proc 3: spam regrowth
I liked boomkin form cuz it gave me extra action bars, is there a way to get that back?
good stuff was there any updates since video posted til now only starting so i caught most of video
Do you have specific macros that help out for using certain spells together? Been out the game for 3 yrs since shadowlands and I’m barely getting used to everything again
I don’t use any macros 😅
Thank you for great guide! Would you please give the name od the addon (cast icons)
LOL how is wildstalker convoke so much heal? Confused? Convoke throws out garbage wrath too..
Is Master Shapeshifter the better choice for M+ vs Liveliness as Wildstalker? Also, I think sacrificing the 60 sec cd reduction of Improved Stampeding Roar for the Fluid Form quality of life is so worth it.
It probably is worth it but I just don’t like it 😂😂
@@Nifuji_TTV FAIR, I prefer Master Shapeshifter, too.
Thanks so much for the video!! It was very informative. I do have a question though- are there any changes when it comes to catweaving rotation with wildstalker? I use a beginners yt guide from dragonflight as wowhead was not too much in depth, but afraid it might be outdated. ❤
Woohoo🎉 What’s the link to resto Druid discord?!
when u procced ur tree then used natures swiftness into convoke it didnt use ur NS bc its still on ur buff bar /greyed out, does that mean its been patched?
It doesnt consume the buff thats what makes it good c:
@@Nifuji_TTV o shit no way, ty for the niche tip
I understand the argument for moonkin form wasting a global, but now that we have fluid form that wouldnt happen. To me losing moonkin form is a huge a loss because of the loss in action bar you get when you shapeshift. Now I have to find space on an already cramped bar for my dps buttons. Feels terrible! And then fluid form is a weak choice because we dont even benifit from it if we dont cat weave. Would be fine with the loss of boomkin form if fluid form wasnt added at the same time. Just me?
I can see that take but I just moved the dps spells to shift 1-4 and called it a day
What is the addon you are using to see what you are using?
Hey, what are the stats I should look in my items, I mean what is my priority? Haste>mastery>versatility>critical? I feel like with a low versatility my healing numbers are a bit low if I’m comparing myself to other healing classes in raid.
that looks about right, our numbers arent incredibly impressive right now, but stacking vers wont solve it outright -> most our healing comes from mastery stacks so just make sure you have hots up on many targets! Haste is king, but since its early and we are gearing, focus item level and int
@@Nifuji_TTV thanks a lot I appreciate the quick reply ❤️
Is there a risk that the NS into Convoke is unintentional and might be patched?
sure but to my knowledge its been like this for many years at this point
as a healer the entire way of dpsing it should change, it should be something like more on AOE in easy way so you can be able to catchup with your primary roll.
Druids need a healing form
@@JusdoinstuF that’s the base form
You had abundance talented for the first build. Can you say why?
@@treebirdtv sure! High keys like +10-12 or higher hurt extremely bad, or at least did in beta. Given we use regrowth so heavily, both manually casting and the procs in convoke, having the extra crit is critical. (Some of the procs I got with the convoke combo were hitting for 3 mil +.) I think as people master dungeons that talent can change!
Also cenarion ward is pretty bad right now so abundance is just better
Why do you use rejv talent for m+?
@@Silentfeety high keys do a LOT of damage, it seems like a waste but it plays into the convoke build heavily and helps get through the dungeon smooth!
Is it smart to use your tree before spaming reju coz this 3 gourdins will reduce its CD after that, reju will be stronger too? Or is it waste of cd
@@Silentfeety you definitely should, a good plan would be using tree on a ramp at the start of the raid encounter so that you’ll have it up again later for damage
why cant i just heal..as a healer
Ask blizzard
is this build outdated already?
nope
@@Nifuji_TTV I see. I was wondering because I noticed that the Wowhead version of the guide doesn't use 2 charges of Swiftmend anymore, like you do in the first build.
@@CrissTRG I prefer the extra burst healing to the alternative, up to you which you prefer!
verdant infusion on cenarion ward is pretty good st throughput, could outweigh 2 Swiftmends until u get full tier. havent played them both to figure out which is better, might boil down to preference
Lol they give healers multiple buttons to press then make you press all the dps buttons too lol while your mashing loads of buttons that one silly dps stays in the patch of aoe refuses to move coz they are casting thier rotation n they die 🤣 while your like yeses im beating the tank in dps 😂😂
Sorry, it´s absolutely disgusting how Blizzard perverted the healer in general. Tanks pulling half the dungeon and then I shall get in some other forms and do damage with cat whatever skills (as a CASTER who hates close range combat more than anything!) while switching back and heal and whatever??? WTF? A HEALER is no DD! I despise that kind of playstyle so much, I really think about leaving that game after 20 years. No idea what creature at Blizz came up with the idea of destroying the healer class - and the Resto Dudu - that much, but I seriously hope karma will get them. Sorry for the rant, but it is more than frustrating to see a nice system destroyed in such a silly way that worked for so many years. My favourite game is no fun anymore.
This just sounds like the problem is who you play with and what content you are playing. Nobody is forcing you to catweave ane noone is forcing your tank to pull that big but in DF there was literally no damage to be healed and the damage profile of keys was high burst which you had to survive with defs / immunities. If you are playing M+ with the Intention to push higher Keys you cannot really complain about the need for healer dps as the timer remains the same with increased mob HP. It basically is the only thing you can change.
You sound like someone who hasnt played in 5 years and just watched this video... healing is no different now than 3 years ago
You call it destroying the class, I call it fun. If you don't want to catweave, don't, but don't ruin my fun because you don't want to engage with it.
Catweaveing has been out for years. I cat weaved for like 4/5 expansions. When nothing to heal pop some bleeds on etc faster kill time means less over all dmg taken
Sounds like you should play the KotG spec.