I've never tanked on druid in any serious capacity. I actually came here to complain about how squishy my guardian druid is in delves. Turns out I don't know jack about guardian druid. This video has changed my entire perspective. Thanks friend.
@MarkElf2204 Why "smh"? For a mitigation buff that lasts for 6 seconds, I'm expected to have 8 to 16 stacks of it rolling at any given time? That doesn't seem excessive to you? You enjoy gameplay where you have to spam the same button 8-16 times every 6 seconds? smh
@allan293-f8c Shield Block has 2 charges and a cooldown. I think you mean Ignore Pain. But yes, very spammed ability. I've never had to hit it 8 - 16 times in 6 seconds. Well, maybe as many as 8, but not 16. But your point definitely stands.
Had druid as a healer I made a couple months ago, hated it so went back to resto shammy.. so brought my druid as a guardian and been enjoying it but suck ass with it
Man, I'm new to WOW (started playing in November of last year) and I've always wanted to play a tank. I finally started playing druid tank yesterday and my anxiety has been through the roof. I've watched over 20 different videos of tanking/druid guides and have had trouble grasping all of the info. YOUR video is what is making everything click for me. You explained it to a very basic level so my dumbass could finally grasp it. Thank you man!
This command also works to avoid shifting out of form when pressing out-of-form skills. (the command must be run out of combat, so can't macro this to skills like before) /run SetCVar("autoUnshift",0)
This helped me a lot. Just practicing abilities out in easier content, I definitely spend rage on maul and raze too much and I never had more than like 5 IF stacks. This'll help me a ton with my bear alt. Great vid as always
You only want to cast maul or raze, not both and, you want to only cast it when it procs. If you have 80+ rage and mangle is on cd and IF has 2-3+ stacks, only then you dump it into maul or raze. Only when doing this you will have rage to dump so now you can actually dump it. You wont have rage to dump if you spam maul or raze which means you wont have enough rage to cast IF or frenzied regen when needed... long story short, its easy to get rage but its much easier to dump it and leave yourself without it when needed the most
use moonfire while approaching enemies, thrash on cooldown, Elune ability, slam iron fur. use ironbark on the opening of big pulls to give you time to build iron furs. It's the easiest spec in the entire game quite literally. Literally.
Loving the tank content! I've taken up tanking again after a couple years of barely touching it and these videos have been great to dip back into it with. Sidenote, what music is it that's playing in the background of your videos? It's some of the most chill vibes music, I would love to know!
Hey Dorki, see could you post talents URL in the description please, I know you show them explicitly in the video, but I think a URL would be also nice, thanks man - good stuff as usual
@@Banana_Phone you get 1s of CDR on incarn for every 25 rage you spend from a talent. so the sheer amount of IFs he's spamming on that pull is lowering the CD a ton
Could you talk about Heart of the Wild’s role? I am confused about how to use it effectively in m+ especially since you never want to be out of Bear form
HotW buffs Moonfire damage. That's all it is good for 95% of the time. For DotC it would also buff the catweaving, but that's only viable in ST anyway.
I cant hold aggro. I go into a pull and use trash + moonfire into mangle and suddenly someone is taking aggro off me :(. I almost want to switch to Raze because I feel like I cant hold aggro wthout it and I don't run heart.
I still don't get why they wouldn't give Primal Wrath to DotC Guardians. Even ignoring the fact catweaving in AoE is actually suicide, you don't even gain damage for doing so since you have no AoE abilities. Also, can Guardian get a Devastator ability for Swipe yet? The button is straight up not worth having on your bar.
I was thinking about dropping Soul of the Forest and Fury of nature for Survival of the Fittest if I need more cooldowns, but I'm not sure if its worth the ~10% drop in damage.
Thank you for the guide really helpful as a beginner for me. Two questions if you dont mind : Are you ever using the instant regrowth proc to selfheal ? Could I macro Ironfur into Mangle+Thrash with this build? It is annoying to always press it and I thought maybe since it is off gcd I can just have it applied while doing my rotation passively When I need rage for frenzied regen I could put /cast Ironfur first in the macro so I get rage after
Best way to get carpal tunnel syndrome in 2024: play bear and spam Ironfur. Was thinking about making a bear/ cat alt (main is prot warrior) but since I'll mainly be tanking M+ and if the meta way to play bear is take Iron Thorns and spam Ironfur till your finger breaks off I'm afraid I'll have to look elsewhere. Pity because in my early WoW days I always loved playing bear but this is just not it for me.
Good video bro, just started tanking myself. I have 1 question though. Sometimes when i use Frenzied Regeneration it doesn't consume a charge. I know this is normal during Incarn but it also sometimes happens without Incarn active. Any idea why so I can track it? Thanks!
@@CaledonianCraft nothing procs, it just doesnt consume a charge. you don't get a buff or anything because the benefit is immediately recognized when you press FR.
Yeah going back to IF spam...I was trying to go for raze build - buuuut I prefer to just spam my mouse "scroll + shift" for IF for damage and use maul procs lol
Ty for the vid, helped me with my Druid, I main a DK and wanted to try something new.. and I tried your warrior prot aswell. Are you going to make a new updated Demon Hunter tanking guide?
Nvm! Found a weakaura for it, didn’t really know how those work since I’ve never made any of my own. If anyone else is looking for the weakaura for just the iron fur cd lmk I can link you it :)
I'm currently running raze, im scared with just thrash and mangle will threat be okay? i know dps will have to give a second to establish a big pull but how do u keep threat with basically just thrash and any moorefires u get out?
@@Dorkiwhat makes you think its squishier? Between dreadful wound and tooth n claw, dotc gets an extra 21% damage reduction compared to the ec build suggested. What is elunes chosen doing to make up for this? Just lunar beam uses and some earthwarden healing?
New bear here. I miss the mob control section. What can we do? I only see kick, incap roar and vortex/typhon if specced. Do i miss something, seems way less than my warrior :/?
warr can't soothe (needed in NW, GB, DB) , decurse (GB, SV) or remove poisons (CoT, AK, SoB). warr doesn't have vers buff and warr can't bres. that's why warr has other mob stops to make up for it. you can't just look at a small subsection of a kit
It's literally just /cast Ravage All it does is make Ravage a separate button instead of shared with Maul, so you don't accidentally use Maul and waste rage/TnC procs.
does HotW buff your physical dmg ONLY for cat form/feral spells? or would it affect bear stuff too? same with the balance buff, would this buff moonfire/lunar beam? or only stuff like starsurge?
buffs anything not your current form. so your AAs are getting buffed bc you're not in feral and your moonfires are getting buffed because you're not in balance
Raze honestly annoys the piss out of me. Like I think of that warlock set bonus that differentiated the damage according to target count. Why can’t maul just do that? Idk, maybe I’m picky.
@@Tenezill except original Raze wasn't that. The issue with the first iteration is taking the talent was a dps loss on boss fights since it ALWAYS did the AoE damage. All they should do is just make Maul do fall off damage in AoE if multiple targets would get hit if you talent Raze and act normally otherwise.
Dude... this is a game changer. Can't wait to try the Ravager build. I did the Raze one, and I'm just complete dog water. Also, the addon is clutch. Does anyone have any macros theyed like to share?
If you have a week or are that shows all of the cool Downs, you don't need to look at a button as well. Especially if you've memorized all of the key locations. I personally prefer less clutter. I have almost all my bars set to mouse over only
Dorky, could you please help me decide? I am throned between blood dk and warrior prot. I focus only on tanking m+ (max +10) in pugs but also dpsing in raid. Warrior for me is so so tank, but amazing dps. Dk in other hand feels amazing as tank but not that great as dps. I am also afraid that warrior is going to be worst and worst tank during s1. As it is almost always the case
That's a fairly easy decision I'd say: decide whether tanking M+ or DPS in raids is more important to you and go from there. If M+ is more important go with the DK, if raiding is more important go with the Warrior. Tank performance is always going to ebb and flow between patches so unless you plan on doing cutting edge progression content IMO it's pointless to make your decision based on that.
I've never tanked on druid in any serious capacity. I actually came here to complain about how squishy my guardian druid is in delves. Turns out I don't know jack about guardian druid. This video has changed my entire perspective. Thanks friend.
Bruh, smh
@MarkElf2204 Why "smh"? For a mitigation buff that lasts for 6 seconds, I'm expected to have 8 to 16 stacks of it rolling at any given time? That doesn't seem excessive to you? You enjoy gameplay where you have to spam the same button 8-16 times every 6 seconds? smh
@@MediaMaster9000 the same applies to warrior shield block?
@allan293-f8c Shield Block has 2 charges and a cooldown. I think you mean Ignore Pain. But yes, very spammed ability. I've never had to hit it 8 - 16 times in 6 seconds. Well, maybe as many as 8, but not 16. But your point definitely stands.
@@MediaMaster9000 what tank will be the best to push m+? Bear or vdh or prot warr?
I have been horribly over-complicating this spec for myself. Wow. Thanks Dorkington
same man wtf did I do to myself xD
Had druid as a healer I made a couple months ago, hated it so went back to resto shammy.. so brought my druid as a guardian and been enjoying it but suck ass with it
As a guardian druid play I can safely say this: this guide is EXTREMLY helpful. Thanks a lot
Great guide. Ive put Ironfur on Mouse scroll down, very chill way to play this spec.
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love your straight to the point videos. It convinced me to just stick with my prot warrior and try healing for a change. Appreciated!
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Man, I'm new to WOW (started playing in November of last year) and I've always wanted to play a tank. I finally started playing druid tank yesterday and my anxiety has been through the roof. I've watched over 20 different videos of tanking/druid guides and have had trouble grasping all of the info. YOUR video is what is making everything click for me. You explained it to a very basic level so my dumbass could finally grasp it. Thank you man!
This is the video for the people!!! Thanks Dorki
The best guide there is. Great job man! Cheers. 💚✌
This command also works to avoid shifting out of form when pressing out-of-form skills. (the command must be run out of combat, so can't macro this to skills like before)
/run SetCVar("autoUnshift",0)
This helped me a lot. Just practicing abilities out in easier content, I definitely spend rage on maul and raze too much and I never had more than like 5 IF stacks. This'll help me a ton with my bear alt.
Great vid as always
You only want to cast maul or raze, not both and, you want to only cast it when it procs. If you have 80+ rage and mangle is on cd and IF has 2-3+ stacks, only then you dump it into maul or raze. Only when doing this you will have rage to dump so now you can actually dump it. You wont have rage to dump if you spam maul or raze which means you wont have enough rage to cast IF or frenzied regen when needed... long story short, its easy to get rage but its much easier to dump it and leave yourself without it when needed the most
well explained video, awesome stuff man! branching out to tanking rather than resto druid this season so this will be a great help
Basic but in-depth. Good job!
As a chronic Swiper, NO SWIPING
7:25 thanks for the weakaura
oui oui mon ami. look ma! ima bear! and the moon loves me!
this is almost exactly the build/playstyle im already running. has felt good as fuck! looking forward to next week so we can finally start pushing
Great video!
use moonfire while approaching enemies, thrash on cooldown, Elune ability, slam iron fur.
use ironbark on the opening of big pulls to give you time to build iron furs.
It's the easiest spec in the entire game quite literally. Literally.
doh i've been using swipe and moonfire too much! thanks for thee tips
Awesome content as always!
Cheers bro, one love 😘
i think for most people, if you need Innervate, dropping HotW instead of Well Honed Instincts is a much safer choice
So the ravage procs will still make ravage cost rage, right? So we have to be a bit careful to make sure we are still getting enough ironfur?
Maul should change into Ravage when it's available, not sure why it needs a macro?
can somebody tell me please how the weakaura calls that tell me how much mana my healer has?
Should I macro ironfur with moofire? that way I just spam moonfire and keep thrash and mangle on cd :)
What is your weak aura to track abilities and what not?
Worst thing about guardian for me is that I have dps brain and guardians defensives also give damage
Loving the tank content! I've taken up tanking again after a couple years of barely touching it and these videos have been great to dip back into it with.
Sidenote, what music is it that's playing in the background of your videos? It's some of the most chill vibes music, I would love to know!
I use swipe sometimes for aoe to help with aggro. But im new to tanking so should i stop doing that?
I can just agree with him😂
Hey Dorki, see could you post talents URL in the description please, I know you show them explicitly in the video, but I think a URL would be also nice, thanks man - good stuff as usual
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In your example zt thé Stonevault after your incarn vanishes it's suffenly back at 30 seconds is that they cooldown timer orndoes it somehow reset?
Damn i Cant type🤣
@@Banana_Phone you get 1s of CDR on incarn for every 25 rage you spend from a talent. so the sheer amount of IFs he's spamming on that pull is lowering the CD a ton
About overlap defensives
@Dorki can you please link your WA? havent found one with Healthbar
Thanks a lot
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Why would you pick Heart of the Wild over Natural Recovery?
Could you talk about Heart of the Wild’s role? I am confused about how to use it effectively in m+ especially since you never want to be out of Bear form
@Dorki for real this question is valid. How and when and why?
HotW buffs Moonfire damage. That's all it is good for 95% of the time. For DotC it would also buff the catweaving, but that's only viable in ST anyway.
@amethonys2798 i see. Does it affect the procs aswell or only the one we cast?
So you never press mangle or swipe at all?
Where can i find the wa?
I cant hold aggro. I go into a pull and use trash + moonfire into mangle and suddenly someone is taking aggro off me :(. I almost want to switch to Raze because I feel like I cant hold aggro wthout it and I don't run heart.
Hey Nice video thanks :) what is the Macro good for ? and is it just the /cast Ravage ?
thats the macro. it's so you won't accidently maul if you mash ravage(easy to mash in between globals during incarn so you don't waste ravage procs)
@@Dorki Thanks
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the autounshift addon is preventing from mounting up in dawnbreaker first and last boss during combat. A fix is needed for that.
Were can we get your WA's?
Is anyone else having trouble maintaining threat in this season? Especially against DK's (all specs)?
I still don't get why they wouldn't give Primal Wrath to DotC Guardians. Even ignoring the fact catweaving in AoE is actually suicide, you don't even gain damage for doing so since you have no AoE abilities.
Also, can Guardian get a Devastator ability for Swipe yet? The button is straight up not worth having on your bar.
Awesome video! I just had one question, we’re not using swipe in our rotation, just using thrash and mangle?
he specifically said that in the vid multiple times lol
@@michellewheatley5180like what do I use when those 2 are on cooldown? Im confused
no the PSGIVEMEMOREMONEY5 edit😭
is it possible to shift points around and get after the wildfire for the group healing or is it not really worth it?
IS ironfur off the GCD? Can you macro it into other abilities?
Yes but it would be suboptimal
I was thinking about dropping Soul of the Forest and Fury of nature for Survival of the Fittest if I need more cooldowns, but I'm not sure if its worth the ~10% drop in damage.
Thank you for the guide really helpful as a beginner for me.
Two questions if you dont mind :
Are you ever using the instant regrowth proc to selfheal ?
Could I macro Ironfur into Mangle+Thrash with this build? It is annoying to always press it and I thought maybe since it is off gcd I can just have it applied while doing my rotation passively
When I need rage for frenzied regen I could put /cast Ironfur first in the macro so I get rage after
cant wait for the prot pally one i feel like im missing something because mobs are just blowing up my health bar even through defensives
Best way to get carpal tunnel syndrome in 2024: play bear and spam Ironfur. Was thinking about making a bear/ cat alt (main is prot warrior) but since I'll mainly be tanking M+ and if the meta way to play bear is take Iron Thorns and spam Ironfur till your finger breaks off I'm afraid I'll have to look elsewhere. Pity because in my early WoW days I always loved playing bear but this is just not it for me.
add ironfur into every ability ^^
I have it on the scroll wheel. Makes it super easy to spam.
How does the addon work? If i accidently click on human form it gives me human form back even in combat
what 2 embelishments are best for Bear for m+?
Good video bro, just started tanking myself. I have 1 question though. Sometimes when i use Frenzied Regeneration it doesn't consume a charge. I know this is normal during Incarn but it also sometimes happens without Incarn active. Any idea why so I can track it? Thanks!
That's a talent called Layered Mane. 10% chance to not consume a charge.
@@naptownblack2453 ahh thanks mate! Is there a WA or something to tracl procs for it?
@@CaledonianCraft nothing procs, it just doesnt consume a charge. you don't get a buff or anything because the benefit is immediately recognized when you press FR.
How are you feeling about brewmaster overall right now?
Yeah going back to IF spam...I was trying to go for raze build - buuuut I prefer to just spam my mouse "scroll + shift" for IF for damage and use maul procs lol
Blame Blizzard for turbo gutting the shield for phys damage.
@amethonys2798 yeah, it was huge mitigation
Hello, is that a custom weak aura or did you have an import string that could be shared? Thanks!
where i can get your weaks auras?
Between the Earthwarden and Tooth/Claw builds you mentioned for Elune, which do you prefer or think is better? Taking simplicity out of the equation.
damage or survivability up to you
What's the addon that stops you from shifting from bear lol
Ty for the vid, helped me with my Druid, I main a DK and wanted to try something new.. and I tried your warrior prot aswell.
Are you going to make a new updated Demon Hunter tanking guide?
You don't go catweaving Claw spec for tyrannical weeks?
every week is fort+tyran now at level 10+
is there an addon that tracks iron fur like that, without changing my entire ui? had elv ui / atrocity ui before and i just dont like the look of it
Nvm! Found a weakaura for it, didn’t really know how those work since I’ve never made any of my own. If anyone else is looking for the weakaura for just the iron fur cd lmk I can link you it :)
why is heart of the wild good in m+
I'm currently running raze, im scared with just thrash and mangle will threat be okay? i know dps will have to give a second to establish a big pull but how do u keep threat with basically just thrash and any moorefires u get out?
You need to read the bear talents, you’re also doing damage using ironfur and barkskin, which contribuit to the threat
And passive bramble so when you got it thay stick
nice! Do you think the single target potential of DoTC will push it up in higher content?
for raid its better, but the guide is geared towards m+. rip weaving is insanely powerful with dotc but is only good in single target.
for m+ no it's too weak and will die but for raid sure
@@Dorkiwhat makes you think its squishier? Between dreadful wound and tooth n claw, dotc gets an extra 21% damage reduction compared to the ec build suggested. What is elunes chosen doing to make up for this? Just lunar beam uses and some earthwarden healing?
New bear here. I miss the mob control section. What can we do? I only see kick, incap roar and vortex/typhon if specced. Do i miss something, seems way less than my warrior :/?
warr can't soothe (needed in NW, GB, DB) , decurse (GB, SV) or remove poisons (CoT, AK, SoB). warr doesn't have vers buff and warr can't bres. that's why warr has other mob stops to make up for it. you can't just look at a small subsection of a kit
@dorki what are the benefits of running Heart of the wild?
moonfire and auto attack damage buff
For elunes chosen is it still better for delves to only use moonfire and not use swipe
yea
What do I press when thrash and mangle is on cooldown and im not supposed to spam Moonfire and swipe?
what is the ravage macro?
It's literally just /cast Ravage
All it does is make Ravage a separate button instead of shared with Maul, so you don't accidentally use Maul and waste rage/TnC procs.
does HotW buff your physical dmg ONLY for cat form/feral spells? or would it affect bear stuff too? same with the balance buff, would this buff moonfire/lunar beam? or only stuff like starsurge?
If I'm not wrong it buffs both autoattack damage and Moonfire damage
buffs anything not your current form. so your AAs are getting buffed bc you're not in feral and your moonfires are getting buffed because you're not in balance
so this is where you've been.
about last tip:
/console autounshift 0
and never ever unshift by mistake again
It doesnt work if i accindetaly click on other spell in combat it still change to me human form
Waiting for that prot pally video 😢
how to install dorkiui? downloaded a wago but it still ask me to donate for an addon. really?xD
Can i drope sleeper rage for ursoc fury? I miss the shield and whit my current ilvl i´m more worried about survability instead of dmg
rage of the sleeper is 20% DR
Raze honestly annoys the piss out of me. Like I think of that warlock set bonus that differentiated the damage according to target count. Why can’t maul just do that? Idk, maybe I’m picky.
we had that, it wasnt great
@@Tenezill except original Raze wasn't that. The issue with the first iteration is taking the talent was a dps loss on boss fights since it ALWAYS did the AoE damage.
All they should do is just make Maul do fall off damage in AoE if multiple targets would get hit if you talent Raze and act normally otherwise.
whats the point of having 11 stacks of iron fur when the max reduce dmg is 85% and thats with..4-5?
You cant really use more globals than youre already doing in those Big pulls so you May as Well dump the rage into Ironfur
1s CDR of incarn for every 25 rage you spend. plus ToI means all of those IFs are doing aoe dmg
im tryna learn how guardian works cuz every pug guardian tank ive healed in keys is so absurdly squishy 😂😂
Routes seem to be MIA?
how do i get that UI
shit just saw the elink tree my bad thanks
Dude... this is a game changer. Can't wait to try the Ravager build. I did the Raze one, and I'm just complete dog water. Also, the addon is clutch. Does anyone have any macros theyed like to share?
I've kill myself more than a few times by accidentally hitting dash. Lol
Where is my vdh guide Dorki!
I mained 🐻 in DF but i havent set it up for TWW. I mainly PVP what hero talent tree do you recommend?
Do brewmaster next?
Can you give your Addons? Good vid ❤
Mr bear
I never understood this kind of ui where a lot of your buttons aren't there. They're hot keyed but not visible?
If you have a week or are that shows all of the cool Downs, you don't need to look at a button as well. Especially if you've memorized all of the key locations. I personally prefer less clutter. I have almost all my bars set to mouse over only
There I am spamming moonfires all the time
Me too! Found out I have been doing it all wrong
Dorky, could you please help me decide?
I am throned between blood dk and warrior prot. I focus only on tanking m+ (max +10) in pugs but also dpsing in raid.
Warrior for me is so so tank, but amazing dps.
Dk in other hand feels amazing as tank but not that great as dps.
I am also afraid that warrior is going to be worst and worst tank during s1. As it is almost always the case
dk dps is amazing in raid atm
@@Dorki if you were me who would you pick?
What has bigger potential
That's a fairly easy decision I'd say: decide whether tanking M+ or DPS in raids is more important to you and go from there. If M+ is more important go with the DK, if raiding is more important go with the Warrior. Tank performance is always going to ebb and flow between patches so unless you plan on doing cutting edge progression content IMO it's pointless to make your decision based on that.
Brew, when?
brew next