err, what you are talking about is just RP, if she does not appear in person, Larian has no reason to create a model for her physical form, or create an npc for her and hide it away XD they just create the hologram and is all they need
@@vincentsolus9227 I hate to be that guy but Larian actually did create a whole model for Vlaakith that they keep in an inaccessible location. They did that for all the npcs, even the ones that are "just" disembodied voices. Myrkul, for instance, is a human man with ~10 hp. Now if you were to get to one of those inaccessible locations (which can be done pretty trivially via nodefling or rogueport) you could kill any npc there, though killing some of them will bug out your game worse than others.
In a multiplayer game I was in, my group somehow actually managed to kill the tiefling kids ourselves. Someone had accidentally triggered a fight with the tieflings, and we summoned the ogres, which caused the whole grove to turn hostile to us. The kids were then all teleported to the prison, and once we broke through the door we were able to slaughter them all, Anakin Skywalker style. They fought back against us, it was interesting. Have never seen it happen since.
They will die in successful attack on the grove, so maybe your own attack also stripped them of their immortality - in this case they were not yet dead so you had to do it yourself. Just a wild guess
It is actually possible to kill Voss and Qudenos in Act 1! At least, it was in patch 5, but the exploit got patched out. However, if you downpatch-and this may need to be done on a fresh file-all you have to do is trigger the first cutscene with the githyanki and progress to act 2 through the Underdark. When you return to the mountain pass, their AI should be broken so that they can be engaged in combat. Just a fair warning, though, you need more explosives than you think to kill Qudenos. Like a lot more. Edit: I can confirm what the replies are saying about this being possible on the most recent version of patch 6. Also, if you want to cosplay the Oathbreaker Knight in-game you'll want a) the Goldgloss Heraldic Helm (found in the Oubliette Morgue and behind Gloomy Fentonson) or the Fierce Golden Helm (found also in the Morgue and in the House of Grief); b) Plate Armor +2, the Armor of Devotion, the Flawed Helldusk Armor, or the Blackguard's Plate; c) the Gloves of the Growling Underdog, the Blackguard's Gauntlets, or the Gauntlets of the Warmaster; and d) the Oathbreaker Knight Boots (found in the cave under the Open Hand Temple), the Boots of Striding, or the Blackguard's Greaves.
@@awrbaker7716Was just about to say I did this on an honor play-through, I however only had enough explosives to kill Voss, the Dragon would just smack me with a legendary reaction and immediately heal back to full afterwards
@@pimpstaajack It's weird, for me the dragon never attacks. I always go to act 2 then go back to the patrol as said earlier, then I kill all the githyanki one by one with stealth, then I hold person Voss and kill him. The dragon stands there and do nothing, and when Voss is dead, I can just beat him to death without him doing anything lol. Maybe it has to with the fact that I killed lae zel before ?
@@awrbaker7716 Oh interesting! Do you remember what patch you started your file on? I know in the early days of patch 6 it was possible to break the gith ai if the playthrough was started before patch 6 but not on a fresh file. I wonder if one of the more recent patches reverted whatever change was made.
@@olchum7605yeah it’s just plate armor +2 with bonuses, same with flawed helldusk armor. I don’t think you can find the helm until act 3 and there’s not a dye for oathbreaker’s colorway but you can pull off most of his look by act 2 with either harlequin black and white or jet and pink rose dye iirc
She is. She resides in the Astral Sea the entire game, and we only get to see her true physical self at the end of the game if we choose to ascend as/with Lae'zel
Excellent! The only thing I've been able to do to the dragon was Command: Halt on it but it and Voss still teleport. Command: Drop on Voss for the legendary sword is still the best gear exploit IMO with no repercussions story wise. One caveat is you'll have to make sure Laezel isn't nearby when you use Command (she can still be in the party, but keep her closer to the teleport or Waukeens Rest). She WILL turn hostile toward you if she has already gone to Voss and is standing in front of him though. The Raph expolit in camp in Act 1 is also great, I used your video to figure that one out!!
I never have Lae'zel with me at waukeen during Voss interaction for this reason, much easier to have her read our memory and she will be fully ok with it!
They patched it, so Voss is now holding a crossbow and that is what he drops. Raphael not dropping dead seems to be also a patch to avoid getting the armor.
@@michadybczak4862 I currently started a durge play through and just got voss sword last night, will see if the raph expolit for his amor still works I’m on Ps5
@@humanindustry13 I don't know. I just report what I experienced. Even before approaching Voss, he is carrying a crossbow on his back, so when you force him to drop a weapon, he drops the one that is active, and this case is the crossbow. There is no problem to make him drop the weapon, either by Command or by Honey paws, but the result was always the same: normal crossbow and no Voss, as he disappears right after attack. I tried many times, many approaches (still in act 1) and nothing changed. I came to conclusion that they patched it by making him hold the crossbow. Easy and works, unfortunately for us. I have no idea why it worked for you, or why it didn't work for me. This is baffling.
1:19 I remember I killed Mizora in act 3 by the athrophy thing and the entire camp became temporarily hostile lol. Wyll, though, he left the party and became permanently hostile.
You can kill withers at the end of act 2 actually by using the intelligence reducing attack that Us the intellect devourer you can get from the very beginning of the game has access to.
I killed Mizora in one of my playthroughs in a rather unusual way. Like you, I killed Wyll while he was still recruited and waited for Mizora to appear. Then, I sacrificed Wyll to the fish cultists, but Mizora remained present. When I attacked her, a fight started, and some members of the camp became my allies (my party, Karlach, and Shadowheart), while others turned hostile (Lae'zel and Halsin). During the fight, Mizora couldn't heal herself, so I managed to kill her quite easily :)
If you kill them yeah you won't get their special loot, however if you use the mod to recruit any npc into your party or Avatar change then it is possible to even kill the hag and never have her respawn again and still grab odd loot that is on her. I'll try this myself when I get to the oathbreaker knight and see if it will give me anything different. Also there is a mod spell that will and can instantly kill any npc and character in the game. I'll have to look through my mods to remember the name, but I've experimented with these ways too cause the hag levels are disgusting and I wanted to skip them and by killing her off in the beginning it works to skip her entire area perfectly.
You can kill the dragon and voss. You have to enter act 2 before talking to them. Then voss wont leave when attacked. Good way to get the silver sword too
Act 2? You mean the area with the monastery or the cursed lands? As to the sword, I doubt it will work, because last time I tried, it turned out, Larian made him holding a crossbow and that is what he drops. Unless he still has a silver sword on him after killing him, you can't get it by making him drop a weapon.
@awrbaker7716 I tried it a week ago and Voss was droping crossbow. It was also visible that he has it equipped on the back. A pity, because this playthrough is with githyanki using 2 handed weapon.
I think if you throw the spectator flask at voss (must do it from stealth) they will all engage it in combat. I dont know if joining the fight will subsequently cause him to flee however
I've killed vass and the dragon before. I snuck off to last light and refreshed the vendor many times to get 60k gold worth of bombs, laid them out evenly and set them off killing both. You need to kill them both in 1 hit or they will leave or full heal if they are in a bugged state. When I tested, killing vass will leave the dragon around forever unless killed.
I'm pretty sure you can kill Voss and Qdenos in Act 3 in the sewers. You have to do some cutscene-shenanigans though to prevent them from fleeing. This may have been patched out, I saw it in a playthrough where someone tried to kill everybody in the game but it was a while back.
I tried it, and only the cut scene is skipped and Withers goes on as if it were alive. In the epilogue, there is no Withers, so I can't see the normal ending. So I killed my companions and suddenly the ending credits go up without any cut scenes (it's in Korean, but the video is on my channel)
Vlakith is kinda possible. Out of map there's areas for actors who get summoned or teleported in. I know in act 3 it's possible to glitch there. I'd assume it's possible in Act 1 as well just differently, but when using a mod to look out at the platform, there is a dummy actor with Vlaakith name for her dialogue and it can be killed. So you can kill a character with Vlakith's name and holds code associated with, but not the character itself.
I'm impressed that you managed to kill Withers, especially given his true identity and his part in the story. I wonder if he still shows up in cut scenes later in the game.
theres a weird trick where when you polymorph a subject that cant die it can be killed in that state. perhaps if you really want to break the game it can be used against little tieflings here.
Its not just the teifling kids you cant kill. You cant kill any kids 😂 i learned this in act 3 when going murder hobo for my dark urge playthrough. I also learned you can farm guards for xp since they continuously spawn back
I actually managed to kill Voss and the Dragon in act 1. it was probably some kinda bug but using Hunger of Hadar on him kinda breaks his spirit to flee and as long as you keep him inside of it he can’t do anything. Also the dragon becomes passiv and doesn’t do anything when Voss dies
I’m not entirely sure how it happened, but on one of my honour mode playthrough, I came back to where Voss is, and he was still there with his dragon, but the other gith were gone. I’d previously skipped the encounter by using enhanced leap. I could attack him from up on the bridge, and my stealth was high enough for him to not be able to find me when semi obscured. Managed to kill him for the sword of the astral plane, but the dragon was impossible, since his legendary action was a reaction that let him shoot a high damage fireball whenever I attacked him
great video and info, no need for excessive subtitles...... its extremely distracting and blocks the in game subtitles during the clips that are shown, not to mention there's a UA-cam option for the ones that find it necessary, no need to hurt the quality of the video to include inconvenient subtitles edit: I just seen on a previous comment that you noted this and that is all I wanted to do was bring it to your attention, sorry for the duplicate comment, great videos and super creative work arounds
Have you tried taking the kids into other fights? The one by the waterfall can be killed by harpies. I think they are only immune to party actions, not everything.
You can find Voss and Qudenos under the city in the sewers in Act 3. Qudenos takes the form of a red dragonborn but I'm unaware if you can kill them successfully there. Otherwise there is the Voss fight at the end of the game
I and my teammate killed both Voss and Qudenos with spells, from the wooden gate. They didn't react, so we blasted them. Voss dropped his Sword, Qudenos nothing Was a bug, so it was probably already fixed
Did you try hold monster on the dragon, it won't work probably, because everything is scripted, but who know, at least you can cast drop weapon on Voss to get the silver sword ;)
Before this, I did actually find a way to kill mizora (I don't know if you use it but you probably do, we'll see) but I didn't finish because everyone became hostile. I just wanted her to leave me alone for like 5 minutes
I've seen someone manage to kill Voss and Qudenos, but admittedly only in act 3. And even then on a technicality because the dragon will dip even if his health reached 0.
Withers is a slightly suspicious dude. even though you can pay him to bring back your dead companions- why does he also bring back their tadpole. though i suppose it would make for a short game and an extreme trust exercise- kill eachother and pay the bone man to bring you and only you back
lol I had killed dame aylin after the kethrick fight with accidental necrotic crit. However I tried everything from tossing into the brine, reducing stats to 0, it was a random necrotic from hex that did it. Isobel didn’t register it, there was an empty spot when her voice lines were said, and she reanimated fully as I entered act 3
the only way to kill vlaakith is to enter the dev rooms and kill her there, but I don't know if the game would recognize her as dead or just revive her
I wonder how killing Withers would work lore-wise... Given he has to write down the names of the dead (and can also revive them by removing them)... Does he scribble down his own name or something? But does he have the INT left to even remember his name or know how to write? So many questions...
I did kill the dragon in my play through, it was the first week of the release of the game and at this time the cinematic was bugged,. He drops a shit ton of xp
I was able to kill Mizora by just getting all companions I could, and then going to mountain pass. Alfira appeared (Dark Urge) and so did Mizora (I barely ever Long Rested) and then that fucked up my playthrough. It had both the Mizora Cutscene and Alfira Cutscene happen, so I think they just cancelled eachother out
So if you kill the oathbreaker, you can never break your oath again? Or is it a non-stop EXP farm... him respawn > kill > 600 EXP > break oath > kill > 600 exp?
You can no longer become an oathbreaker, regain your old oath, or even respec your character. If you're going to kill the oathbreaker, be sure you're happy with whatever your Paladins currently are. And if not, simply don't use a Paladin and have a hireling break their oath to summon him instead.
I know that if you kill Mizora in Acts 2 and 3 he leaves the party and becomes permanently hostile towards you. But I think the game continues as normal and acts like Mizora is still alive if you kill her during Act 1.
You lose out on a ton of rewards, there’s no code to react to her dying in act 1, but she is still dead, so you can’t save her from the stuff in act 2 to get the reward
u cant really kill the red dragon in act 1 but u can kill him in act 3 when u find him and voss in the sewers u can fight them while hes in dragonborn form (too late for glut tho)
I thought the tiefling kids died if you started a fight with the druids over arrabelle? Do the kids not die? Quickest way is just attack a rat next to khorga
i think i heard you can call kill Raphael if Knock him out when you first meet him, with diferent party menber outside of the dialog, by first damaging him with Gale corpose, and finishing him with non lethal blow, then when find himgoing to through the montain pass you can kill him, but i never tested
Not true, can kill mizora in act 3 by using ability drain ilithid powers and making her int? I think go to 0? Only down side to doing that in act 3 however is if you got will's dad, he becomes hostile and you basically still kill will. Edit: Atrophied is how I killed mizora in act 3 camp.
2:24 if you can find a way to do it in act 1 or 2 I would highly appreciate it,kinda would like to not have withers around when the Arabella scene happens in act 2. Otherwise there is no real reason to do it in act 3 unless you want a harder time finishing the game
Vlaakith is probably fully imposible, cause she probably don't even is code as npc, but just dialogs and cutsenes
Vlakith is impossible because the version you meet in the cresh and act 3 are just holograms the actual Vlakith is probably somewhere in astral plains
err, what you are talking about is just RP, if she does not appear in person, Larian has no reason to create a model for her physical form, or create an npc for her and hide it away XD
they just create the hologram and is all they need
@@vincentsolus9227 I hate to be that guy but Larian actually did create a whole model for Vlaakith that they keep in an inaccessible location. They did that for all the npcs, even the ones that are "just" disembodied voices. Myrkul, for instance, is a human man with ~10 hp. Now if you were to get to one of those inaccessible locations (which can be done pretty trivially via nodefling or rogueport) you could kill any npc there, though killing some of them will bug out your game worse than others.
Top tier comment @@aluc0hc
As of Patch 7 it’s implied that Lae’zel kills her if you do the evil ending as origin Lae’zel
In a multiplayer game I was in, my group somehow actually managed to kill the tiefling kids ourselves. Someone had accidentally triggered a fight with the tieflings, and we summoned the ogres, which caused the whole grove to turn hostile to us. The kids were then all teleported to the prison, and once we broke through the door we were able to slaughter them all, Anakin Skywalker style. They fought back against us, it was interesting. Have never seen it happen since.
They will die in successful attack on the grove, so maybe your own attack also stripped them of their immortality - in this case they were not yet dead so you had to do it yourself. Just a wild guess
It is actually possible to kill Voss and Qudenos in Act 1! At least, it was in patch 5, but the exploit got patched out. However, if you downpatch-and this may need to be done on a fresh file-all you have to do is trigger the first cutscene with the githyanki and progress to act 2 through the Underdark. When you return to the mountain pass, their AI should be broken so that they can be engaged in combat. Just a fair warning, though, you need more explosives than you think to kill Qudenos. Like a lot more. Edit: I can confirm what the replies are saying about this being possible on the most recent version of patch 6.
Also, if you want to cosplay the Oathbreaker Knight in-game you'll want a) the Goldgloss Heraldic Helm (found in the Oubliette Morgue and behind Gloomy Fentonson) or the Fierce Golden Helm (found also in the Morgue and in the House of Grief); b) Plate Armor +2, the Armor of Devotion, the Flawed Helldusk Armor, or the Blackguard's Plate; c) the Gloves of the Growling Underdog, the Blackguard's Gauntlets, or the Gauntlets of the Warmaster; and d) the Oathbreaker Knight Boots (found in the cave under the Open Hand Temple), the Boots of Striding, or the Blackguard's Greaves.
You can still do it now. You just gotta head to act 2 and then come back
@@awrbaker7716Was just about to say I did this on an honor play-through, I however only had enough explosives to kill Voss, the Dragon would just smack me with a legendary reaction and immediately heal back to full afterwards
@@pimpstaajack It's weird, for me the dragon never attacks.
I always go to act 2 then go back to the patrol as said earlier, then I kill all the githyanki one by one with stealth, then I hold person Voss and kill him. The dragon stands there and do nothing, and when Voss is dead, I can just beat him to death without him doing anything lol.
Maybe it has to with the fact that I killed lae zel before ?
@@pimpstaajack you can do the dragon when it doesn’t have its legendary action though
@@awrbaker7716 Oh interesting! Do you remember what patch you started your file on? I know in the early days of patch 6 it was possible to break the gith ai if the playthrough was started before patch 6 but not on a fresh file. I wonder if one of the more recent patches reverted whatever change was made.
6:13 His armor set is in the game. Goldgloss Helm, Flawed Helldusk Gloves and Armor and oathbreaker knight boots is his set
isn't it the blackguard set thats in front of the tribunal? from the 3 knights?
@@olchum7605yeah it’s just plate armor +2 with bonuses, same with flawed helldusk armor. I don’t think you can find the helm until act 3 and there’s not a dye for oathbreaker’s colorway but you can pull off most of his look by act 2 with either harlequin black and white or jet and pink rose dye iirc
It’s funny because you can’t kill the tiefling kids but if you side with Minthara and attack the grove the goblins will kill them
Also kinda racist that you are able to kill the Goblin children without issue xD
It is some way to kill them but with goblins instead of explosive barrels xd
You are too tall for this ride.
I always thought Vlakith was just a projection. Not actually her in corporeal form.
She is. She resides in the Astral Sea the entire game, and we only get to see her true physical self at the end of the game if we choose to ascend as/with Lae'zel
The power of Barrelmancy reigns supreme!
lol Barrelmancy is my FAVORITE weapon, that and a Bag-O-Bombs
I’m now more impressed by the goblins that managed to down the kids
3:40Did my man Withers only gave 10 exp? Damn...
Excellent! The only thing I've been able to do to the dragon was Command: Halt on it but it and Voss still teleport. Command: Drop on Voss for the legendary sword is still the best gear exploit IMO with no repercussions story wise. One caveat is you'll have to make sure Laezel isn't nearby when you use Command (she can still be in the party, but keep her closer to the teleport or Waukeens Rest). She WILL turn hostile toward you if she has already gone to Voss and is standing in front of him though. The Raph expolit in camp in Act 1 is also great, I used your video to figure that one out!!
I never have Lae'zel with me at waukeen during Voss interaction for this reason, much easier to have her read our memory and she will be fully ok with it!
They patched it, so Voss is now holding a crossbow and that is what he drops. Raphael not dropping dead seems to be also a patch to avoid getting the armor.
@@michadybczak4862 I currently started a durge play through and just got voss sword last night, will see if the raph expolit for his amor still works I’m on Ps5
@@michadybczak4862 When did they patch it? I got the sword from Voss in act 1 2 days ago on my playthrough and my game is up to date.
@@humanindustry13 I don't know. I just report what I experienced. Even before approaching Voss, he is carrying a crossbow on his back, so when you force him to drop a weapon, he drops the one that is active, and this case is the crossbow. There is no problem to make him drop the weapon, either by Command or by Honey paws, but the result was always the same: normal crossbow and no Voss, as he disappears right after attack. I tried many times, many approaches (still in act 1) and nothing changed. I came to conclusion that they patched it by making him hold the crossbow. Easy and works, unfortunately for us.
I have no idea why it worked for you, or why it didn't work for me. This is baffling.
1:19 I remember I killed Mizora in act 3 by the athrophy thing and the entire camp became temporarily hostile lol. Wyll, though, he left the party and became permanently hostile.
Did you try the drain method on child, it worked on Withers, so it could work too with children.
You need help. Kkkkk joking
the absorb intellect ability cant be accessed until act 3, and ability drain cant kill on its own, so you cant atrophy the children like that
@@thatonedude9001 You can edit that with BG3 script extenter to test that.
@@scanix100 at that point theres no reason because youve modded the game, its about how you can kill the npcs in vanilla
Mol can be present in act 3, so still possible to test
You can kill the red dragon with explosive barrels, you just didn't use enough. I killed it in my first playthrough with barrels.
"To kill Withers, you have to go to Act 2"
Wait, there's an Act 2?!
what you mean?
Wait you thought it ended in act one?
No no, just a joke about restartitis and how many people would have tons of play time but still hadn't left act 1
@@jetdathreat oh ok i was like omg you have no idea how much you are missing lol XD
You can kill withers at the end of act 2 actually by using the intelligence reducing attack that Us the intellect devourer you can get from the very beginning of the game has access to.
I killed Mizora in one of my playthroughs in a rather unusual way. Like you, I killed Wyll while he was still recruited and waited for Mizora to appear. Then, I sacrificed Wyll to the fish cultists, but Mizora remained present. When I attacked her, a fight started, and some members of the camp became my allies (my party, Karlach, and Shadowheart), while others turned hostile (Lae'zel and Halsin).
During the fight, Mizora couldn't heal herself, so I managed to kill her quite easily :)
U could kill the kid by dropping him in the underdark
Ah, the Darkest of Urges playthru!
If you kill them yeah you won't get their special loot, however if you use the mod to recruit any npc into your party or Avatar change then it is possible to even kill the hag and never have her respawn again and still grab odd loot that is on her. I'll try this myself when I get to the oathbreaker knight and see if it will give me anything different. Also there is a mod spell that will and can instantly kill any npc and character in the game. I'll have to look through my mods to remember the name, but I've experimented with these ways too cause the hag levels are disgusting and I wanted to skip them and by killing her off in the beginning it works to skip her entire area perfectly.
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Very inventive ways! Thank you for the video, I like your style!
You can kill the dragon and voss. You have to enter act 2 before talking to them. Then voss wont leave when attacked. Good way to get the silver sword too
Act 2? You mean the area with the monastery or the cursed lands?
As to the sword, I doubt it will work, because last time I tried, it turned out, Larian made him holding a crossbow and that is what he drops. Unless he still has a silver sword on him after killing him, you can't get it by making him drop a weapon.
@@michadybczak4862 the shadow cursed lands, the creche is act 1. And the sword does drop, I have done it quite recently
@@michadybczak4862 the shadow cursed lands, the creche is act 1. And the sword does drop, I have done it quite recently
@awrbaker7716 I tried it a week ago and Voss was droping crossbow. It was also visible that he has it equipped on the back. A pity, because this playthrough is with githyanki using 2 handed weapon.
@@michadybczak4862 maybe you did something wrong? I killed him at the mountain pass entrance and he dropped the sword
I think if you throw the spectator flask at voss (must do it from stealth) they will all engage it in combat. I dont know if joining the fight will subsequently cause him to flee however
Going to try that next run! Will edit comment when I do :)
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I’m intensely curious if any of these deaths actually affect story progression.
wow you nailed this bro
I've killed vass and the dragon before. I snuck off to last light and refreshed the vendor many times to get 60k gold worth of bombs, laid them out evenly and set them off killing both. You need to kill them both in 1 hit or they will leave or full heal if they are in a bugged state.
When I tested, killing vass will leave the dragon around forever unless killed.
I'm pretty sure you can kill Voss and Qdenos in Act 3 in the sewers. You have to do some cutscene-shenanigans though to prevent them from fleeing. This may have been patched out, I saw it in a playthrough where someone tried to kill everybody in the game but it was a while back.
So, what happens when you finish the game while they are dead ? especially the wither. What about the end game scenes?
I tried it, and only the cut scene is skipped and Withers goes on as if it were alive. In the epilogue, there is no Withers, so I can't see the normal ending. So I killed my companions and suddenly the ending credits go up without any cut scenes (it's in Korean, but the video is on my channel)
@@찌노띠 Thank you !
I'd be curious to know what happens in a Durge-resist playthrough after killing Orin if you've already killed Withers.
@@stuminnis4050 Same old route. Just the cut scene with Withers is skipped
you can kill the kids if you side with the goblins in act 1. If you back to the grave where the kids are, you will see all their dead bodies
Vlakith is kinda possible. Out of map there's areas for actors who get summoned or teleported in. I know in act 3 it's possible to glitch there. I'd assume it's possible in Act 1 as well just differently, but when using a mod to look out at the platform, there is a dummy actor with Vlaakith name for her dialogue and it can be killed.
So you can kill a character with Vlakith's name and holds code associated with, but not the character itself.
When you betray the grove the kids die from the goblins.
Withers just explodes without warning. Brutal
I'm impressed that you managed to kill Withers, especially given his true identity and his part in the story. I wonder if he still shows up in cut scenes later in the game.
theres a weird trick where when you polymorph a subject that cant die it can be killed in that state. perhaps if you really want to break the game it can be used against little tieflings here.
Its not just the teifling kids you cant kill. You cant kill any kids 😂 i learned this in act 3 when going murder hobo for my dark urge playthrough. I also learned you can farm guards for xp since they continuously spawn back
You can kill the goblin kids, so not all kids are off-limits 😅
I actually managed to kill Voss and the Dragon in act 1. it was probably some kinda bug but using Hunger of Hadar on him kinda breaks his spirit to flee and as long as you keep him inside of it he can’t do anything. Also the dragon becomes passiv and doesn’t do anything when Voss dies
I’m not entirely sure how it happened, but on one of my honour mode playthrough, I came back to where Voss is, and he was still there with his dragon, but the other gith were gone. I’d previously skipped the encounter by using enhanced leap. I could attack him from up on the bridge, and my stealth was high enough for him to not be able to find me when semi obscured. Managed to kill him for the sword of the astral plane, but the dragon was impossible, since his legendary action was a reaction that let him shoot a high damage fireball whenever I attacked him
great video and info, no need for excessive subtitles...... its extremely distracting and blocks the in game subtitles during the clips that are shown, not to mention there's a UA-cam option for the ones that find it necessary, no need to hurt the quality of the video to include inconvenient subtitles
edit: I just seen on a previous comment that you noted this and that is all I wanted to do was bring it to your attention, sorry for the duplicate comment, great videos and super creative work arounds
Have you tried taking the kids into other fights? The one by the waterfall can be killed by harpies. I think they are only immune to party actions, not everything.
Red Dragons are immune to fire damage in DnD. So conventional explosives probably won't work on them.
You can Kill Raphael in Act 1 just pass the dagger in the meat while he is in human form on the road using stealth and never entering combat!
You can find Voss and Qudenos under the city in the sewers in Act 3. Qudenos takes the form of a red dragonborn but I'm unaware if you can kill them successfully there. Otherwise there is the Voss fight at the end of the game
I and my teammate killed both Voss and Qudenos with spells, from the wooden gate. They didn't react, so we blasted them. Voss dropped his Sword, Qudenos nothing
Was a bug, so it was probably already fixed
Did you try hold monster on the dragon, it won't work probably, because everything is scripted, but who know, at least you can cast drop weapon on Voss to get the silver sword ;)
Voss now is holding and dropping a normal crossbow, so it's patched.
@@michadybczak4862 I've just tested it and got silver sword on patch 7.
Before this, I did actually find a way to kill mizora (I don't know if you use it but you probably do, we'll see) but I didn't finish because everyone became hostile. I just wanted her to leave me alone for like 5 minutes
I did this in act 3 btw
I've seen someone manage to kill Voss and Qudenos, but admittedly only in act 3. And even then on a technicality because the dragon will dip even if his health reached 0.
The explosives would not work on the Red Dragon as it is immune to fire damage, which explosive damage is based on.
Would be interesting to see what happens in act 3/high hall with withers dead. Does it just bring him back?
Withers is a slightly suspicious dude. even though you can pay him to bring back your dead companions- why does he also bring back their tadpole. though i suppose it would make for a short game and an extreme trust exercise- kill eachother and pay the bone man to bring you and only you back
You can meet the red Dragon in act 3 in the canals. He‘s with Voss
If you take the kids to the happys they will kill them.
I just realized that Khaga's snake can kill immortals...
lol I had killed dame aylin after the kethrick fight with accidental necrotic crit. However I tried everything from tossing into the brine, reducing stats to 0, it was a random necrotic from hex that did it. Isobel didn’t register it, there was an empty spot when her voice lines were said, and she reanimated fully as I entered act 3
Only goblins are able to kill children in the grove, so side with them and let them do the job :)
the only way to kill vlaakith is to enter the dev rooms and kill her there, but I don't know if the game would recognize her as dead or just revive her
You can kill voss and his dragon in sewers in act 3 using explosives
So the Grove kids did not have this immunity condition in early access... Don't ask me how I know this
I wonder how killing Withers would work lore-wise... Given he has to write down the names of the dead (and can also revive them by removing them)...
Does he scribble down his own name or something? But does he have the INT left to even remember his name or know how to write?
So many questions...
Killed Mizora at Wyrms rock with Signed Trade Visa spell
I feel like you should get cool lootz if you manage to find a way to kill these NPCs.
Can the Harpies kill the kids? I know they can kill that one kid.
I think Raphael can be killed if you use Gale's necrotic aura in succession
I did kill the dragon in my play through, it was the first week of the release of the game and at this time the cinematic was bugged,. He drops a shit ton of xp
Unkillabla kids in games is standard fare. The only games I've played that went against the grain were Fallout 1 and 2
I was able to kill Mizora by just getting all companions I could, and then going to mountain pass. Alfira appeared (Dark Urge) and so did Mizora (I barely ever Long Rested) and then that fucked up my playthrough. It had both the Mizora Cutscene and Alfira Cutscene happen, so I think they just cancelled eachother out
Kids can die from enemies, can't they? Harpies quest is an example of this. Also Arabella can be killed through cutscene obviosly.
If you kill Mizorah in act 1, does she reappear later in the game or will all content with her be locked?
I killed oath breaker the first chance i got 😂. Hes easy if you can lure him in the middle of the camp as to get the attention of everyone else
i'm pretty sure that Oathbreaker used to be lootable, and only had a greatsword and platemail
great vid
So if you kill the oathbreaker, you can never break your oath again? Or is it a non-stop EXP farm... him respawn > kill > 600 EXP > break oath > kill > 600 exp?
You can no longer become an oathbreaker, regain your old oath, or even respec your character. If you're going to kill the oathbreaker, be sure you're happy with whatever your Paladins currently are. And if not, simply don't use a Paladin and have a hireling break their oath to summon him instead.
Good question.
What happens to Wyl's questline if we kill Mizora in Act 1?
I was thinking the same thing. Would be interesting to find out.
I know that if you kill Mizora in Acts 2 and 3 he leaves the party and becomes permanently hostile towards you. But I think the game continues as normal and acts like Mizora is still alive if you kill her during Act 1.
I heard in a Larian interview that Mizora is immortal so that Wyll can complete his quest line. so maybe she comes back.
Logically speaking, Mizora cannot truly die outside of Avernus and should just resurrect there if you kill her in the camp. Same thing with Raphael
You lose out on a ton of rewards, there’s no code to react to her dying in act 1, but she is still dead, so you can’t save her from the stuff in act 2 to get the reward
Withers comes back, if you are the dark urge in that place (spoilers maybe so not gonna say names)
u cant really kill the red dragon in act 1 but u can kill him in act 3 when u find him and voss in the sewers u can fight them while hes in dragonborn form (too late for glut tho)
I thought people killed the dragon by hanging out up on the bridge and taking pot shots with ranged attacks
I thought the tiefling kids died if you started a fight with the druids over arrabelle? Do the kids not die? Quickest way is just attack a rat next to khorga
did they patch the barrel duping glitch if not then use more powder
Fun video :).
i think i heard you can call kill Raphael if Knock him out when you first meet him, with diferent party menber outside of the dialog, by first damaging him with Gale corpose, and finishing him with non lethal blow, then when find himgoing to through the montain pass you can kill him, but i never tested
Does atrophy not work on the tiefling kids and raphael?
I never know children are immortal
I have killed Voss, but not the dragon. This works only in the first release version. Maybe later before one of patches, but I didn's test properly.
If I can't choose to test myself against Elminster or Dritz is it even BG?
I got mizora stoned lol
Not true, can kill mizora in act 3 by using ability drain ilithid powers and making her int? I think go to 0?
Only down side to doing that in act 3 however is if you got will's dad, he becomes hostile and you basically still kill will.
Edit: Atrophied is how I killed mizora in act 3 camp.
Could you kill the red dragon in act 3 when he is down in the sewers and in the form of a dragon born?
Oathbreaker knight I hit level 4 and jump him. Not for the armor not for the exp but because he Tpose on me.
Wait, I'm confused, the Tiefling kids can't be killed, yet you have Arabella's corpse??
2:24 if you can find a way to do it in act 1 or 2 I would highly appreciate it,kinda would like to not have withers around when the Arabella scene happens in act 2. Otherwise there is no real reason to do it in act 3 unless you want a harder time finishing the game
Okay but does Wyll die if you kill Mizora this way?
So what happens to will if you kill mizora in act 1?
i wonder if the post credits cutscene is effected if withers is dead.
There are videos of people killing Raphael in act one.
is wyll still alive after you kill mizora?
Or you can petrify everyone lol
Why not yet the kids of a mountain lol
The dragon is ezpz
Use gale ^