S2000 VS MX5 REMATCH
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2014
- After some much needed repairs on the MX5, Marty and Moog battle it out to see who has the ultimate Japanese roadster...
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Please reply omfg i love your vids. man their mad.
MAAAAAAAAAAD!
Its alright the best my internet can handle is 360p
What's with that camry behind the S2000. WHY IS IT THERE?!?!?!
I swear Moog bought the S2000 just so he can scream VTEC!!!! all the time.
Lextube it’s half the fun oi
Is that not what VTEC is for?
@@coreylong2353;
Moog: "you deserve to win; I'm so happy for you"
That's what i love about these guys. Integrity, honesty, respect and best of all, supporting one another instead of taking the piss top-gear style.
I'm hooked.
All Moog has to do is slap a 'Type R' sticker on the back. +50kw right there!
"That LSD is fantastic!" - Marty
Hell yeah, mods for S2000, cant wait.
UNICORN MODSSS!!!
That video had more suspense than ANY MOVIE I have seen in 5 years. My heart was racing!
I wanted an MX-5 since I was 15. I now have an MX-5 which I absolutely adore (and will eventually mod).
I still think the S2000 is awesome, and I'd love to experience VTEC unicorn farts.
Fuck brand allegiance, just enjoy nice cars.
exactly
+96t5wagon I have a 09 civic si I shit on 350z & rape miata's
Justin Lelaurin is the civic stock?
+Nicholas Fisher ill get one eventually, once i finish my current project car hopefully.
+Justin Lelaurin Miatas are slow as hell stock... This one is obviously modded... and a 350z would destroy you. They have almost 100hp more... LOL
09 Civic Si: 197hp
04 350z: 287hp
I remember watching season one at 14 and I loved and shared the show. Now I am a adult I have my own car still love and share the show with new friends. The MCM world will never die and a big THANK YOU to Marty and Moog for starting this originally obscure and small masterpiece. And a big THANK YOU to all the fans that have made this so big and MCM is now multi-national. I am so proud of you guys and amazed at your successes, it has like been watching (from what I understand) a baby grow into a successful young man/lady. Keep it up guys!!! Btw Moog just turbo that thing so you can get some real power... Hymaphroditic snail and unicorn farts ... Think about it.
Great friendship, great race. Both cars are great don't even matter the make. Can't wait to see that Honda with go fast goodies! Marty! Raise your boost!
"I evoke the spirits of the unicorns of the V-TEC gods!" xD
I love your show, and both of your awesome cars, guys!
Moog shouting" V-TEC" during every gearchange was classic. Most i've laughed in all the MCM vids. Good job guys!
MCM - the only guys who can drag out 15 seconds into 18 minutes and not bore the audience.
Loving the respect for each other's cars
I love the fact that you will insult each others cars, dog on each other, and give each other crap before the race. But, you will still shake hands, congratulate each other, and work on both cars together. That shows true sportsmanship and friendship. That is also the reason I love watching your videos. Keep up the good work, and keep the awesome videos coming guys. Much love from the states.
I love watching these guys. the cars, the joy, and their friendship is so great to watch. Keep it up guys!
13:37 Hate to break it to you Moog, but Honda pretty much managed to squeeze every last horse out of that little F20C engine from the factory. The only way you will make substantially more power is to boost it, whether it be supercharger or turbocharger. If you do get enough money to boost it tho, you wont just be beating MX-5s, I'll tell you that much. I'm sure everyone has seen the video of the S2k running 9's with a stock block on boost :)
as i said last race, its time for a mx-5 Rotary swap
Excellent video guys and a fun race to watch. Looking forward to the next one for sure, Thanks!
One of the best drargracing videos on YT, not because of the speed but because of the talking, the visible emotions and the rage. Very well done!
Why does the Honda get so much hate, normally I don't give a shit about Hondas, but a little 2 door stick shift with a stick shift to me is a mad car no matter what.
Because people are jealous, or they cant afford one and get an old Mx-5 instead.
Because of their owners.
Everyone loves the rear wheel drive s2000. People just hate the front wheel drive hondas like the civic
The launch and the grip made the difference
Yep, that's what I thought too. The Mazda has sticky tires on it and these make this little time difference. It would already be enough to put the same tires on the S2000 and Moog would win.
SlickRickOne I dunno. I think the additional torque of the turbocharged engine is what helped the Miata get out of the hole faster.. If you put stickier tires on the less torquey S2k, it would have fallen out of Vtec, bogged off the line and been even further behind.
Very true comment. Doing a burnout on road tires to heat them will actually loosen the grip on launch. Sticky tires from the get go, and no burnout definitely helped his launch.
bliglum If you look back at the second race you'll see that the MX5 had the s2000 out of the hole and thru what looked like the 60' mark. It then began to make more power as it came up on boost and slow as the clutch began slipping. the turbo had no part in the dig off the line there's no boost just off idle.
in fairness the S2000 is known for it's lack of low end so it would be slow off the line the VTEC does work but only in the upper 1/3 of the rev range so likev7k thru redline at 9k. The MX5 HAS THE SMALLER 1.6l which was originally in the 323 and was not really tune all that hard . The S2000 K series engine was designed from the outset as an HP motor and is a full 2.0L IIRC. I will always favor the low buck modded car over rhe high dollar stocker .Further more I think the closeness of the times tell us that all Marty's mods really just leveled the playing field. He squeeked out the win he didn't shut the S2000 down or smoke it by a mile the vary next race could have just as easly gone the Hondas way. I don't think we have a decisive victor yet. It seemed to me that Moog let the pressure get to him a little and Marty was more relaxed and in control of himself. So in my opinion we don't have the last word yet .The King of the hill has not been crowned yet. I need at lest 2 out of three not one out of one.
its great to see so much enthusiasm from both of you to beat each other. you passion for cars really shows. great video
Jokingly fighting over hondas, nissans, subarus, competitions and what have you can be fun for a few mins, but it is oh so much better when you two get along and say things like "I'm happy for you" etc.
Warms my heart right up and reminds me why I love you guys
moog i advise a trip to our good friends at spoon ;) 12k rpm goodness!
Well I expected the MX5 to win. But I didnt expected that it was only that tiny difference. Honeslty, If Moog had started a little bit better, he would win...
Moog's 5 stages of grief: (although not exactly in the classical order )
- Denial @3:58
- Anger @12:22
- Bargaining @12:08
- Depression @13:08
- Acceptance @15:13
it's been 7-1/2 months since this video
and not a single mod video for the S2000...
QUE
Expected Result.
Even though the MX is a wonderful little car, the S is just the King of all Roadsters.
The Engine of the Mazda is yet another everyday engine. Add a Turbo and you can have some serious fun..! The F20C on the S though is a whole different story. That engine is made to rock and it's made to last. Racing Grade Engineering from Honda. Combined with a hell of a chassis and looks that turn Heads anywhere you can't go wrong with an S. Ultimately it will be mine some day...!
I can't wait for the mod's to start. More unicorns more fun.
legit competition
legit sportsmanship
legit series on youtube, subbed
so fun to watch the two of you !
Supercharge the Honda. A. You guys need to do a supercharger video. B. It will complement the VTEC whereas a turbo can quite easily ruin the drive ability. I would also like to see you guys do camshafts, headers, exhaust and other stuff.
supercharging or turbocharging is cheating tho.
Intake+exhaust+ecu retune and it'll be running under 14
I love NA as well, but Phoenix is right on the supercharging. There needs to be an eppisode. I would like to see them dive into the internals one day though.
Don't see how a turbo would ruin your drive ability?
Sppers are quite francly shit wat you want is an induction kit ecu mod new exhaust an strip xs waight oike spair wheel an stuff plus moog do what you want to what these guys say like I want I want I want
Superchargers are awesome. They make the powerband much more linear (even on cars that suck). Also, they don't hand grenade the engine and weigh a lot less than their crappy turbo siblings.
Turbos don't always ruin the driveability but it makes the powerband wonky and that problem becomes even worse with VTEC. You will have a car that makes 50hp below 4000RPM and 700hp above that and that will get annoying very quickly for everyday usage (not to mention ruin your drive train)
Man, I was too fast, no HD yet, daaaaaaamn! I don't wanna wait, it's not what my generation do!
I'm becoming a huge fan of the MIGHTY CAR MODS! Love the vids, guys. Nice work.
Welcome to the club. Before long, your car will wear the stickers with pride: I know my car does...
15:00 a perfect example of sportsmanship :)
That was entirely too entertaining. From when you guys got the s2k to this video was all too awesome!! Seriously some of the most entertaining youtubin I've seen.
right?
its what made me subscribe.
Omar Reyes
I know right? I was subbed to these guys and I always saw them as kind of "trendy" but the mx5 and gramps totally blew my mind. The boost controller for gramps was AMAZING!!
"That LSD is FANTASTIC!" hehe
I have so much fun with your show, keep it up.
Nice, Moog. That's the spirit. Real sportsmanship right there!
Boltons will really do next to nothing in terms of power for the S2000. A single exhaust system will lighten it up a bit and give it some more performance but not much and honestly an intake won't do much either other than allow it to breathe a bit easier. If Moog want's more power and performance I'd get a supercharger, compliments the NA engine very well.
agree^
I third this.
Rings true for most smaller N/A motors. SC would be awesome.
Yes, a supercharger would be nice on the S2000.
Love the show! I was rooting for the underdog Miata and I'm glad Marty won. I must say however that Marty won off of a great launch. The stock S2000 still had more MPH. 2.5 to be exact. Had they raced a few more times, I think the S2000 would have won the majority. Impressive for an N/A stock car.
Race was hilarious...Thanks MCM..love yall
Cant waiit for the new mods!
I love good LSD.
me to man me to ;D
since when is there good lsd these days..
Good to see. Goes to show you don't need $30,000+ for a car that can kill at the track. Just a little know-how and time.
I just finished putting a turbo into my '95 240sx. Getting it tuned in 2 days, and it will give the beatdown to all these brand new camaros for 1/6th the price.
sorry but when is "killing at the track" 14sec?
A turbo and tuned 240 killing the new camaros? The new camaros run low 11's I've seen modded ones do 10. Yes it is and no it's not 1/6 the price. A Z/28 is 60 K that must mean your whole entire 240 build is only 10 K, and the z28 is the most expensive camaro! If your talking about ZL1's which you can get used for 40 K that must mean your car is under 5 thousand dollars for the complete build! You sir are full of shit.
Your nissan has a 0-60 of 7.8 seconds brand new. With about 70,000 miles on the odometer you'd be lucky to have a 8.3s 0-60. Now even with a 6 thousand dollar brand name turbo you would never leave the sevens hahahaha good luck even beating a stock 2005 v6 Mustang
touristguy87 I didn't say at the drag, I said the track. The quarter mile isn't the strong suit of a 240sx.
7lameboy ...you watch mightycarmods, right? He basically turbo'd his car for free if you don't include the cost of labor. You'd be surprised how cheap it is to turbo a car if you do the work yourself and shop around. And, yes, I did it for under 6,666 dollars. 3k for the car, 3k for the mods. And I'm not talking about V8s since almost no one has a v8 camaro where I live but there are countless V6s.
Man...there was soo much hype and build up. Awesome!!!
It's time for a "little" Vortech kit ;)
Reaction times being equal, that would have had a different result ;)
Nice work boys!! Can't wait to see what Moog does to that S2000!
I am here at work rolling in my chair watching MOOG and his unicorns!! I ham glad that you are modding the S2000. I have a Honda Accord, so I cannot wait to see what you do. Nice race Marty!
BRING ON THE UNICORN MODS MOOOOOOOOOOG!!!!!!!!
Unicorns are awesome. But if he were to add a snail into the mix he would be chopping and dicing the MX5
Moog, for the S2000 be VERY careful about naturally aspirated mods. The motor is already very very good. Only a couple of intakes actually make power over the stock airbox. 70mm single exhausts have been proven to get a few extra unicorns but 60mm aren't bad either. Getting an aftermarket ECU can help drop the VTEC engagement point to around 5000 rpm. That helps a bit in the midrange. Contact BYP Racing and Development because they've done a lot of testing recently for the F20C.
Exactly. The weight saving from a single exhaust is worth more than the power you get! Same goes for the Exhaust manifold.
The cool thing here win or lose on either side, is that these two gentlemen are truly into cars and happy and encourage one another. Not to offten you see two friends go head to head and are able to really be happy for the other person when they lose.
You guys are rad. You dudes make me laugh my ass off! I was your videos everyday and they never get old! I've learned so much from your videos and love the passion you guys have for cars :D Rock on MCM, keep making videos :DDD
"I have got the spirit of a unicorn from a VTEC gods!"..cracked my ass off laughing.
Haha same here
Fun video! I used to own an MX5 and always wished for a slightly larger and more powerful version. The S2000 would have been perfect, but it didn't come out until after I bought my RX7 (new) back in 1995. For you guys overseas, that was the last year they were sold in the USA, but mine is was a brand new '94 with 9 miles on it. Anyway, sometimes I think about selling the RX7 and getting a clean S2000, but I'm having a hard time getting rid of my baby. Hell, at this point I've owned it ~20 years, so I might just keep it until I'm dead. Considering how rare clean RX7s are, I feel the market value is way too low -- especially when I get people asking me to sell it at least 3 times a month. Maybe in another 10 years it might go up, but who knows. :-)
Oh... Subscribed!
I enjoyed their show, very inspiring.
+tscooter22 Did you have any problems with the seals in the rotary during its 20 yrs of life?
I own all three. 😜 My FD is also 94 R2 no sunroof. A 94 Spec Miata. And an 05 AP2.
That was a great race I have love for both cars cant wait to see more videos keep up the great work.
Let the mods begin!
I think moog psyched himself out, but also secretly wanted to mod ;)
Moog, only 1 thing I can say...
V II V II
:D
Great episode guys!!! I was all hyped in my chair :D
Another ..MAD EPISODE!!
I've been waiting so long for this rematch! I'm stoked to see the one I was rooting for won! :D
lmao i love it when moog is screaming VTEC
Great to see another vid guys. Great win Marty, I guess Moog is really powered by swearing Unicorns, hahahahahahaha
Good Job, didn't see that coming
Let the mods begin !!!
Easy fix... Hondata Flashpro and lower your final gear ratio in the S2K.
"DUDE! I Almost Had YOU!
:,(
the feels :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((
Awesome race guys!
Yes!!!! Can't wait for Honda mod videos !!
MOOG! Take NOTES , Look Into (HONDATA ECU, INTAKE MANIFOLD , CAT BACK EXHAUST , COILOVERS , And Grippy Tyres!!! VTEC UNICORN GODS Please Baptize MOOGS S2k With These Parts To CHOPP Martys MX5! AMEN
3:42 not the most ideal place to be trippin
limited slip differential
you deserve firts comment
I literally laughed out loud
A high revving naturally aspirated engine is an engineering achievment and easily makes for the most rewarding driving experience. Many people just dont get it/cannot appreciate the technical superiority. Good on ya Moog.
I love you videos guys. Keep it up. You inspired me to make my own!
if he puts a turbo in it will be unicorns on crack!
True
I dislike most Hondas, but as soon as that S2k gets some mods, the Miata is done for. Boost on the S2k alone will destroy the Miata. Marty better up the boost on that snail if he plans to keep the title.
Amazing how these very different cars are so close, awesome :3
That music at 07:00! One of my many many favorite jams 😁
MCM. : Marty's Chopping Machine
One, just one mod on s2000: lower the final gear ratio
Guaranteed to match or out run the mx5
True for drag racing, but I think keeping the final gear higher makes for a much better highwah cruiser.
I say this because my MX5 is awesome but it's really annoying to see 4k rpm at 75-80mph.
Yes I know the comment I'm replying to is 8 years old
hah alove the little bit of bromance at the end. Love your videos. just recently found out about you guys and i am enjoying all your shows.
I had the biggest smile on my face this whole video :D
If Moog had a better start he would have won. Really surprised how close it was, I really thought the MX-5 would properly chop him. Can't wait for the Honda mods to start though!
Agree.
The time is modded thats why they are so close.
That LSDs fantastic! Lol
MAN !!!
LOVED THE UNICORN AND THE SNAIL RIVALRY !!!
I hope you two keep up the fun , I've never been sooo entertained !!!
I was screaming at the top of my voice "COME ON SNAIL JUICE" !!!
Moog , can't wait to see your mod idea's come to life !!!
GREAT STUFF !!!
MADDDD respect from Canada!!
Time to go make some more MCM stickers. Later guys.
Seems like the Miata should pull on the S2000... I think it make 197whp and it's at least 500lbs lighter than the S2K. I guess the S makes up for it in the top end vs the small turbo on the Miata.
Cool mods and awesome race congratulations
You guys are epic. Love the sportsman ship Moog. Love the end where you are happy for him. That is what it is all about chaps. Well done Marty. Looking forward to the rematch.
I smell marty's subaru vs moog's s2000 with turbo unicorns
I think the MX5 Needs an LS1 now.
Let the mods begin
So keen to seen the mods on the S2000, man it's quick for a stock car. Still going for the MX5 though, keep it up!!!
I'd rather do 14.4 @ 99MPH then 14.3 @ 96. Just a little more practice launching and the S2000 would have a clean victory.
DO A PROJECT CAR VIDEO ON THE MK3 SUPRA!! Great bang for buck car!
Lol
Cecilio Casablanca Oh yea...both you and I (finally) can vouch for that! Lol
Bloody hell, you both did crazy times! 14.04 and 14.38?! Jeebus that's fast for those cars!
I hate that you got chopped but Im glad as well! Cant wait to see the S2000 mods!!!
I'm thinking supercharger, all the responsiveness of NA with a linear power curve. Should suit the S2000 perfectly :D
Supercharged s2k's are fantastic.